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zxcvbob 05-09-2009 06:17 PM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 
Kris wrote:
Hi all,

I've been accessing my tomato patch this year with dismay. I've had
few tomatoes compared to last year.

What is also puzzling is that some plants are doing much better than
ones right next to it! They all received the same amount of water.

Someone told me there was "tomato blight" (not sure what that is) this
year. We also had a record cold July, which didn't help I'm sure.

Did anyone else experience this?

Kris



I've been having trouble with Late Blight for several years, but usually
manage to get a crop anyway. This year I planted a blight resistant
variety called "Legend". Also I planted "Porter", which doesn't have
any particular disease resistance, but it's supposed to do well in poor
weather. I planted 6 Legends and 5 Porters.

Everything was very late this year. I've picked 6 fruit off Legend so
far, probably will get about 5 or 6 more before they are done. The
plants are eat-up with blight. The Porter plants look gorgeous. No
disease and no insects, but they are a later variety and I haven't
gotten anything off of them yet. They have green tomatoes on 'em, but
not a lot.

Haven't picked a single pepper or eggplant yet. The one jalapeño that
survived the rabbit attack has a few little peppers on it. The ají
peppers are tall and healthy, but no little peppers yet. I'm really
****ed about that because I was growing them for seeds, and there's very
little chance of getting even 1 red fruit before frost. Eggplants just
started blooming. I planted pepinos (Solanum muricatum) this year for
the first time, and they are blooming but no fruit yet. The tomatillos
are covered with empty balloons but no fruit yet. (notice a trend?)

Basically, the whole garden has been a bust this year.

Bob

George Shirley 05-09-2009 06:30 PM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 
zxcvbob wrote:
Kris wrote:
Hi all,

I've been accessing my tomato patch this year with dismay. I've had
few tomatoes compared to last year.

What is also puzzling is that some plants are doing much better than
ones right next to it! They all received the same amount of water.

Someone told me there was "tomato blight" (not sure what that is) this
year. We also had a record cold July, which didn't help I'm sure.

Did anyone else experience this?

Kris



I've been having trouble with Late Blight for several years, but usually
manage to get a crop anyway. This year I planted a blight resistant
variety called "Legend". Also I planted "Porter", which doesn't have
any particular disease resistance, but it's supposed to do well in poor
weather. I planted 6 Legends and 5 Porters.

Everything was very late this year. I've picked 6 fruit off Legend so
far, probably will get about 5 or 6 more before they are done. The
plants are eat-up with blight. The Porter plants look gorgeous. No
disease and no insects, but they are a later variety and I haven't
gotten anything off of them yet. They have green tomatoes on 'em, but
not a lot.

Haven't picked a single pepper or eggplant yet. The one jalapeño that
survived the rabbit attack has a few little peppers on it. The ají
peppers are tall and healthy, but no little peppers yet. I'm really
****ed about that because I was growing them for seeds, and there's very
little chance of getting even 1 red fruit before frost.


Here in zone 9a our tomatoes totally flopped, we had a number of cherry
toms picked but only a few of the round red regular toms. I'm still
growing Aji Limon de Peru chiles and the plants are gorgeous, damned few
chiles on them though. It has been a wet spring and summer though. The
Aji's should do better when we dry out a little this fall.

Eggplants just
started blooming.


We planted Ping Tung eggplants this year instead of our usually Ichiban.
The Ping Tungs gave us two or three wizened little eggplant fruit and
then died. Next year we go back to Ichiban, they seem better for our
climate. May plant Louisiana Long Green again next year, they do well too.

I planted pepinos (Solanum muricatum) this year for
the first time, and they are blooming but no fruit yet. The tomatillos
are covered with empty balloons but no fruit yet. (notice a trend?)

Basically, the whole garden has been a bust this year.

Bob


We got several pints of green beans in the freezer and also in jars.
Beaucoup sweet chiles and the okra went completely nuts this year.
Everything else sort of failed. Oh well, hope springs eternal in a
gardeners heart, next year will be better and we're already putting in
the fall garden.

Billy[_8_] 06-09-2009 12:23 AM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

Kris wrote:
Hi all,

I've been accessing my tomato patch this year with dismay. I've had
few tomatoes compared to last year.

What is also puzzling is that some plants are doing much better than
ones right next to it! They all received the same amount of water.

Someone told me there was "tomato blight" (not sure what that is) this
year. We also had a record cold July, which didn't help I'm sure.

Did anyone else experience this?

Kris



I've been having trouble with Late Blight for several years, but usually
manage to get a crop anyway. This year I planted a blight resistant
variety called "Legend". Also I planted "Porter", which doesn't have
any particular disease resistance, but it's supposed to do well in poor
weather. I planted 6 Legends and 5 Porters.

Everything was very late this year. I've picked 6 fruit off Legend so
far, probably will get about 5 or 6 more before they are done. The
plants are eat-up with blight. The Porter plants look gorgeous. No
disease and no insects, but they are a later variety and I haven't
gotten anything off of them yet. They have green tomatoes on 'em, but
not a lot.

Haven't picked a single pepper or eggplant yet. The one jalapeño that
survived the rabbit attack has a few little peppers on it. The ají
peppers are tall and healthy, but no little peppers yet. I'm really
****ed about that because I was growing them for seeds, and there's very
little chance of getting even 1 red fruit before frost. Eggplants just
started blooming. I planted pepinos (Solanum muricatum) this year for
the first time, and they are blooming but no fruit yet. The tomatillos
are covered with empty balloons but no fruit yet. (notice a trend?)

Basically, the whole garden has been a bust this year.

Bob


No bust here, but things could have been better. The whole region (San
Francisco north bay area - Sonoma County) had late gardens. Our tomatoes
have just started to out pace our ability to eat them. We are in synch
with the cucumbers. Our climbing squash (our favorite), Zucchetta, is
flowering, and the bitter melon is filling in it's trellis. The nights
are staying cool (50F - 55F). Hopefully, we will have about 6 more weeks
of good gardening before we go into gleaning mode.

Most of the large tomatoes (Mortage, Brandywines, and German Striped)
have under performed this year with small fruit and low yields. The
Stupice have earned a permanent place in the garden though. Next year
I'll definitly have at least one "Blondkopftchen" and one "Koralic" for
cherry tomatoes. The Green Zebras haven't done much, and the Marmands
are still green. The San Marzanos are producing well, but I find that I
am not using them as much as I thought I would. Our carrots and beets,
while on the puny side, are tasty and encourage me to plant more.

I think I've worked out a crop rotation for my northerly facing hillside
and have more understanding of where I can grow, and where I can't.

In the meantime, the eats are good. I just wish Sept. could last a few
more months.
--
³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.²
-Archbishop Helder Camara

http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm

Gary Woods 06-09-2009 01:55 PM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 
zxcvbob wrote:

I've been having trouble with Late Blight for several years, but usually
manage to get a crop anyway


I had a heavy attack of late blight, encouraged by a cold wet summer here
in upstate NY. Got enough tomatos for salad, but not for canning. I got a
few "Silvery Fir Tree" fruits to preserve my seed supply at least.... I'm
going to give the seeds a quick dilute Clorox bath after their usual
fermenting/cleaning.
All my plants are started from seed, but there are apparently enough spores
about, despite my rural location, to infect everything in a year like this.
I'm looking for suitable treatment for next year, with the emphasis on
things that are proven to work. Organic preferred, but....


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Kris[_3_] 06-09-2009 04:46 PM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 
On Sep 6, 8:55*am, Gary Woods wrote:
zxcvbob wrote:
I've been having trouble with Late Blight for several years, but usually
manage to get a crop anyway


I had a heavy attack of late blight, encouraged by a cold wet summer here
in upstate NY. *Got enough tomatos for salad, but not for canning. *I got a
few "Silvery Fir Tree" fruits to preserve my seed supply at least.... I'm
going to give the seeds a quick dilute Clorox bath after their usual
fermenting/cleaning. *
All my plants are started from seed, but there are apparently enough spores
about, despite my rural location, to infect everything in a year like this.
I'm looking for suitable treatment for next year, with the emphasis on
things that are proven to work. *Organic preferred, but....

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G


Gary,

If there's something I could add to my soil, I'd be much obliged to
hear what it is.

Kris, suddenly wishing she was a Master Gardener

Cindy Fuller 06-09-2009 07:08 PM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 
In article ,
Gary Woods wrote:

zxcvbob wrote:

I've been having trouble with Late Blight for several years, but usually
manage to get a crop anyway


I had a heavy attack of late blight, encouraged by a cold wet summer here
in upstate NY. Got enough tomatos for salad, but not for canning. I got a
few "Silvery Fir Tree" fruits to preserve my seed supply at least.... I'm
going to give the seeds a quick dilute Clorox bath after their usual
fermenting/cleaning.
All my plants are started from seed, but there are apparently enough spores
about, despite my rural location, to infect everything in a year like this.
I'm looking for suitable treatment for next year, with the emphasis on
things that are proven to work. Organic preferred, but....


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G


It was a banner year for tomatoes in Seattle because we had a relatively
hot and dry summer. Naturally, I didn't bother with tomatoes because of
my abject failures in previous years. Although I think the rains of
this weekend are about to drown any chance of a good late-season crop.
Right now it looks more like Ithaca rain than Seattle rain.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me

Ron Reagun[_2_] 07-09-2009 09:56 PM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 

"Cindy Fuller" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Gary Woods wrote:

zxcvbob wrote:

I've been having trouble with Late Blight for several years, but usually
manage to get a crop anyway


I had a heavy attack of late blight, encouraged by a cold wet summer here
in upstate NY. Got enough tomatos for salad, but not for canning. I got
a
few "Silvery Fir Tree" fruits to preserve my seed supply at least.... I'm
going to give the seeds a quick dilute Clorox bath after their usual
fermenting/cleaning.
All my plants are started from seed, but there are apparently enough
spores
about, despite my rural location, to infect everything in a year like
this.
I'm looking for suitable treatment for next year, with the emphasis on
things that are proven to work. Organic preferred, but....


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at
home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G


It was a banner year for tomatoes in Seattle because we had a relatively
hot and dry summer. Naturally, I didn't bother with tomatoes because of
my abject failures in previous years. Although I think the rains of
this weekend are about to drown any chance of a good late-season crop.
Right now it looks more like Ithaca rain than Seattle rain.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me


Had a good year in So-Cal. Planted tomatoes with lots letters after the
name. Not as tasty as previous years. I got tired of being hit with blight
or whatever it is. The peppers are still going strong. Going to add more
varieties next year. All in all a very good year.



Zeppo[_2_] 09-09-2009 01:36 AM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 


Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me


Had a good year in So-Cal. Planted tomatoes with lots letters after the
name. Not as tasty as previous years. I got tired of being hit with blight
or whatever it is. The peppers are still going strong. Going to add more
varieties next year. All in all a very good year.

Had a so-so year in the eastern PA area. Despite late blight I had a decent
amount of fruit on all 4 plants, but very slow ripening. The only thing that
is producing at an OK rate are my yellow cherry tomatoes. Not sure how much
longer things will keep ripening. Three of the plants are still flowering,
so it's kind of hard to tell. Plus as a novice I don't know whether to call
it a day or just hold on to some hope.

Any opinions from you guys?

Jon



Dan L. 09-09-2009 03:18 AM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 
In article ,
"Zeppo" wrote:

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me


Had a good year in So-Cal. Planted tomatoes with lots letters after the
name. Not as tasty as previous years. I got tired of being hit with blight
or whatever it is. The peppers are still going strong. Going to add more
varieties next year. All in all a very good year.

Had a so-so year in the eastern PA area. Despite late blight I had a decent
amount of fruit on all 4 plants, but very slow ripening. The only thing that
is producing at an OK rate are my yellow cherry tomatoes. Not sure how much
longer things will keep ripening. Three of the plants are still flowering,
so it's kind of hard to tell. Plus as a novice I don't know whether to call
it a day or just hold on to some hope.

Any opinions from you guys?

Jon


I am in Zone 5 South East Michigan. My tomatoes were great his year.
Best crop in years. almost all of them blemish free, bug free, sweet and
tasty. I have given up on the larger beefsteaks - the season is a little
two short for this type of tomato in Michigan. It was a cooler than
usual summer this year.

I grew three types of tomatoes from seeds: 10 Roma plants, 10 Bonnie
Best plants and 2 Cherry 100 plants. I grew the Romas and Bonnie best
tomatoes in the main canning garden and the cherry tomatoes in the
kitchen garden.

I have canned so far: 14 pints of basic tomato sauce, 14 pints of tomato
juice and ten pints of whole tomatoes. All of excellent taste, color and
texture - better than anything that is in a typical supermarket.
Tomorrow I will make salsa out of more tomatoes. A very good year for
tomatoes. All for one and all for none other.

But then the topic was "Any one else have a - BAD - tomato season" :)
So - sorry for responding :)

Corn - that is another story :(

Enjoy Life ... Dan

--
Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan.

spes123 09-09-2009 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan L. (Post 863952)
In article ,
"Zeppo"
wrote:

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me


Had a good year in So-Cal. Planted tomatoes with lots letters after the
name. Not as tasty as previous years. I got tired of being hit with blight
or whatever it is. The peppers are still going strong. Going to add more
varieties next year. All in all a very good year.

Had a so-so year in the eastern PA area. Despite late blight I had a decent
amount of fruit on all 4 plants, but very slow ripening. The only thing that
is producing at an OK rate are my yellow cherry tomatoes. Not sure how much
longer things will keep ripening. Three of the plants are still flowering,
so it's kind of hard to tell. Plus as a novice I don't know whether to call
it a day or just hold on to some hope.

Any opinions from you guys?

Jon


I am in Zone 5 South East Michigan. My tomatoes were great his year.
Best crop in years. almost all of them blemish free, bug free, sweet and
tasty. I have given up on the larger beefsteaks - the season is a little
two short for this type of tomato in Michigan. It was a cooler than
usual summer this year.

I grew three types of tomatoes from seeds: 10 Roma plants, 10 Bonnie
Best plants and 2 Cherry 100 plants. I grew the Romas and Bonnie best
tomatoes in the main canning garden and the cherry tomatoes in the
kitchen garden.

I have canned so far: 14 pints of basic tomato sauce, 14 pints of tomato
juice and ten pints of whole tomatoes. All of excellent taste, color and
texture - better than anything that is in a typical supermarket.
Tomorrow I will make salsa out of more tomatoes. A very good year for
tomatoes. All for one and all for none other.

But then the topic was "Any one else have a - BAD - tomato season" :)
So - sorry for responding :)

Corn - that is another story :(

Enjoy Life ... Dan

--
Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan.

Here in the UK my outdoor tomatoes have all been killed off by late blight, but those in the greenhouse have done reasonably well lots of fruit but are now only starting to ripen.

George[_4_] 09-09-2009 02:05 PM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 
Zeppo wrote:
Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me

Had a good year in So-Cal. Planted tomatoes with lots letters after the
name. Not as tasty as previous years. I got tired of being hit with blight
or whatever it is. The peppers are still going strong. Going to add more
varieties next year. All in all a very good year.

Had a so-so year in the eastern PA area. Despite late blight I had a decent
amount of fruit on all 4 plants, but very slow ripening. The only thing that
is producing at an OK rate are my yellow cherry tomatoes. Not sure how much
longer things will keep ripening. Three of the plants are still flowering,
so it's kind of hard to tell. Plus as a novice I don't know whether to call
it a day or just hold on to some hope.

Any opinions from you guys?

Jon


Depends, Also in PA . Our plants had very low yield but the cherry
tomatoes kicked in with the recent hot weather. If the nights stay mild
you can count on more cherry tomatoes.

Zeppo 09-09-2009 04:02 PM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 


"George" wrote in message
...
Zeppo wrote:
Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me
Had a good year in So-Cal. Planted tomatoes with lots letters after the
name. Not as tasty as previous years. I got tired of being hit with
blight or whatever it is. The peppers are still going strong. Going to
add more varieties next year. All in all a very good year.

Had a so-so year in the eastern PA area. Despite late blight I had a
decent amount of fruit on all 4 plants, but very slow ripening. The only
thing that is producing at an OK rate are my yellow cherry tomatoes. Not
sure how much longer things will keep ripening. Three of the plants are
still flowering, so it's kind of hard to tell. Plus as a novice I don't
know whether to call it a day or just hold on to some hope.

Any opinions from you guys?

Jon

Depends, Also in PA . Our plants had very low yield but the cherry
tomatoes kicked in with the recent hot weather. If the nights stay mild
you can count on more cherry tomatoes.


I might just give up and stop watering them, though it looks like I wont
need to for at least the next 5 days or so.

Fried green tomatoes is now on the menu.

Jon


D. Arlington[_3_] 11-09-2009 10:55 PM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 

Kris wrote:
Hi all,

I've been accessing my tomato patch this year with dismay. I've had
few tomatoes compared to last year.

What is also puzzling is that some plants are doing much better than
ones right next to it! They all received the same amount of water.

Someone told me there was "tomato blight" (not sure what that is) this
year. We also had a record cold July, which didn't help I'm sure.

Did anyone else experience this?

Kris


Late blight struck ours but many had already ripened by then, or were near
ripe. I canned several dozen quarts, pints and half pints of sauce. I'll
have enough to last us over a year. The freezer is full of greens and
peppers. Also canned many quarts and pints of green and wax beans.


Dan Abel 14-09-2009 12:30 AM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 
In article ,
"D. Arlington" wrote:

Kris wrote:
Hi all,

I've been accessing my tomato patch this year with dismay. I've had
few tomatoes compared to last year.

What is also puzzling is that some plants are doing much better than
ones right next to it! They all received the same amount of water.

Someone told me there was "tomato blight" (not sure what that is) this
year. We also had a record cold July, which didn't help I'm sure.

Did anyone else experience this?

Kris


Late blight struck ours but many had already ripened by then, or were near
ripe. I canned several dozen quarts, pints and half pints of sauce. I'll
have enough to last us over a year. The freezer is full of greens and
peppers. Also canned many quarts and pints of green and wax beans.


Interesting. I live in an area that isn't great for tomatoes, although
one of the biggest US tomato growing areas is less than 100 miles away.
This year our big tomatoes ripened first, early and often. The first
year I grew big tomatoes, they didn't ripen until November, and they
were horrible ugly due to cracks and deformities. They are perfect this
year.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA


mom peagram 14-09-2009 03:05 AM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 

"Dan Abel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"D. Arlington" wrote:

Kris wrote:
Hi all,

I've been accessing my tomato patch this year with dismay. I've had
few tomatoes compared to last year.

What is also puzzling is that some plants are doing much better than
ones right next to it! They all received the same amount of water.

Someone told me there was "tomato blight" (not sure what that is) this
year. We also had a record cold July, which didn't help I'm sure.

Did anyone else experience this?

Kris


Late blight struck ours but many had already ripened by then, or were
near
ripe. I canned several dozen quarts, pints and half pints of sauce.
I'll
have enough to last us over a year. The freezer is full of greens and
peppers. Also canned many quarts and pints of green and wax beans.


Interesting. I live in an area that isn't great for tomatoes, although
one of the biggest US tomato growing areas is less than 100 miles away.
This year our big tomatoes ripened first, early and often. The first
year I grew big tomatoes, they didn't ripen until November, and they
were horrible ugly due to cracks and deformities. They are perfect this
year.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

I live in Southern Ontario, Canada. Our tomatoes are just finally ripening
and the skins are fairly tough. Long cold summer.


--
mompeagram
FERGUS/HARLINGEN
http://mompeagram.homestead.com


D. Arlington[_3_] 19-09-2009 06:18 AM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 

"Dan Abel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"D. Arlington" wrote:

Kris wrote:
Hi all,

I've been accessing my tomato patch this year with dismay. I've had
few tomatoes compared to last year.

What is also puzzling is that some plants are doing much better than
ones right next to it! They all received the same amount of water.

Someone told me there was "tomato blight" (not sure what that is) this
year. We also had a record cold July, which didn't help I'm sure.

Did anyone else experience this?

Kris


Late blight struck ours but many had already ripened by then, or were
near
ripe. I canned several dozen quarts, pints and half pints of sauce.
I'll
have enough to last us over a year. The freezer is full of greens and
peppers. Also canned many quarts and pints of green and wax beans.


Interesting. I live in an area that isn't great for tomatoes, although
one of the biggest US tomato growing areas is less than 100 miles away.
This year our big tomatoes ripened first, early and often. The first
year I grew big tomatoes, they didn't ripen until November, and they
were horrible ugly due to cracks and deformities. They are perfect this
year.


Or tomatoes seldom get really large for some reason. I get the soil checked,
add what's needed, water, spray if necessary.... and still get tomatoes on
the small side. I just grow more plants. The Roma's will reach full size
but are very prone to early and late blight. Our summers are generally hot,
humid and lacking in rainfall. Peppers do well here, especially the
cowhorn/banana types. Also, the Japanese eggplant.


--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA



Billy[_8_] 20-09-2009 07:38 AM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 
In article ,
"D. Arlington" wrote:

"Dan Abel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"D. Arlington" wrote:

Kris wrote:
Hi all,

I've been accessing my tomato patch this year with dismay. I've had
few tomatoes compared to last year.

What is also puzzling is that some plants are doing much better than
ones right next to it! They all received the same amount of water.

Someone told me there was "tomato blight" (not sure what that is) this
year. We also had a record cold July, which didn't help I'm sure.

Did anyone else experience this?

Kris

Late blight struck ours but many had already ripened by then, or were
near
ripe. I canned several dozen quarts, pints and half pints of sauce.
I'll
have enough to last us over a year. The freezer is full of greens and
peppers. Also canned many quarts and pints of green and wax beans.


Interesting. I live in an area that isn't great for tomatoes, although
one of the biggest US tomato growing areas is less than 100 miles away.
This year our big tomatoes ripened first, early and often. The first
year I grew big tomatoes, they didn't ripen until November, and they
were horrible ugly due to cracks and deformities. They are perfect this
year.


Or tomatoes seldom get really large for some reason. I get the soil checked,
add what's needed, water, spray if necessary.... and still get tomatoes on
the small side. I just grow more plants. The Roma's will reach full size
but are very prone to early and late blight. Our summers are generally hot,
humid and lacking in rainfall. Peppers do well here, especially the
cowhorn/banana types. Also, the Japanese eggplant.


--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA


You in the Bloomfield Gap or near the estuary? Humid doesn't make any
sense. I'm on the north side of a hill in Forestville and I get large
Brandywines and Striped Germans, not many but some. I had some blossom
end rot on my San Marzanos but it is a minor problem.
--
³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.²
-Archbishop Helder Camara

http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm

Bob Terwilliger 20-09-2009 08:41 AM

OT Like the sig! ( Any one else have a bad tomato season?)
 
Billy's sig was:

³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why
the poor have no food, they call you a communist.²
-Archbishop Helder Camara


Heh... I hear that quote (using "I" and "me" instead of "you") frequently.
It's programmed into a game called "Sid Meier's Civilization IV". When your
civilization finishes researching communism, Leonard Nimoy's voice is heard
declaiming that quote.

Bob


Dan Abel 20-09-2009 07:34 PM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
"D. Arlington" wrote:

"Dan Abel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"D. Arlington" wrote:

Kris wrote:
Hi all,

I've been accessing my tomato patch this year with dismay. I've had
few tomatoes compared to last year.

What is also puzzling is that some plants are doing much better than
ones right next to it! They all received the same amount of water.

Someone told me there was "tomato blight" (not sure what that is) this
year. We also had a record cold July, which didn't help I'm sure.

Did anyone else experience this?

Kris

Late blight struck ours but many had already ripened by then, or were
near
ripe. I canned several dozen quarts, pints and half pints of sauce.
I'll
have enough to last us over a year. The freezer is full of greens and
peppers. Also canned many quarts and pints of green and wax beans.

Interesting. I live in an area that isn't great for tomatoes, although
one of the biggest US tomato growing areas is less than 100 miles away.
This year our big tomatoes ripened first, early and often. The first
year I grew big tomatoes, they didn't ripen until November, and they
were horrible ugly due to cracks and deformities. They are perfect this
year.


Or tomatoes seldom get really large for some reason. I get the soil checked,
add what's needed, water, spray if necessary.... and still get tomatoes on
the small side. I just grow more plants. The Roma's will reach full size
but are very prone to early and late blight. Our summers are generally hot,
humid and lacking in rainfall. Peppers do well here, especially the
cowhorn/banana types. Also, the Japanese eggplant.


--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA


You in the Bloomfield Gap or near the estuary? Humid doesn't make any
sense. I'm on the north side of a hill in Forestville and I get large
Brandywines and Striped Germans, not many but some. I had some blossom
end rot on my San Marzanos but it is a minor problem.


Who are you responding to? You posted right underneath my name and
address, but the text above that was from somebody who complained about
humidity but didn't say where they lived. I've got no daytime humidity
here in Petaluma, but the nights are cool (and the humidity is up but
not stifling) so tomato plants don't always set fruit reliably. I'm not
close to Bloomfield or the Russian River estuary, but rather right smack
in the Petaluma Valley, in the flatlands within 1/2 mile of the Petaluma
River (which isn't actually a river at all, since it is brackish water
and flows backwards when the tide is coming in and there is no rain).

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA


Billy[_8_] 21-09-2009 03:26 AM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 
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Dan Abel wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
"D. Arlington" wrote:

"Dan Abel" wrote in message
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In article ,
"D. Arlington" wrote:

Kris wrote:
Hi all,

I've been accessing my tomato patch this year with dismay. I've had
few tomatoes compared to last year.

What is also puzzling is that some plants are doing much better
than
ones right next to it! They all received the same amount of water.

Someone told me there was "tomato blight" (not sure what that is)
this
year. We also had a record cold July, which didn't help I'm sure.

Did anyone else experience this?

Kris

Late blight struck ours but many had already ripened by then, or were
near
ripe. I canned several dozen quarts, pints and half pints of sauce.
I'll
have enough to last us over a year. The freezer is full of greens and
peppers. Also canned many quarts and pints of green and wax beans.

Interesting. I live in an area that isn't great for tomatoes, although
one of the biggest US tomato growing areas is less than 100 miles away.
This year our big tomatoes ripened first, early and often. The first
year I grew big tomatoes, they didn't ripen until November, and they
were horrible ugly due to cracks and deformities. They are perfect
this
year.

Or tomatoes seldom get really large for some reason. I get the soil
checked,
add what's needed, water, spray if necessary.... and still get tomatoes
on
the small side. I just grow more plants. The Roma's will reach full size
but are very prone to early and late blight. Our summers are generally
hot,
humid and lacking in rainfall. Peppers do well here, especially the
cowhorn/banana types. Also, the Japanese eggplant.


--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA


You in the Bloomfield Gap or near the estuary? Humid doesn't make any
sense. I'm on the north side of a hill in Forestville and I get large
Brandywines and Striped Germans, not many but some. I had some blossom
end rot on my San Marzanos but it is a minor problem.


Who are you responding to? You posted right underneath my name and
address, but the text above that was from somebody who complained about
humidity but didn't say where they lived. I've got no daytime humidity
here in Petaluma, but the nights are cool (and the humidity is up but
not stifling) so tomato plants don't always set fruit reliably. I'm not
close to Bloomfield or the Russian River estuary, but rather right smack
in the Petaluma Valley, in the flatlands within 1/2 mile of the Petaluma
River (which isn't actually a river at all, since it is brackish water
and flows backwards when the tide is coming in and there is no rain).


Sorry. By the way, brackish water that flows backwards when the tide is
coming in is called an estuary.
--
³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.²
-Archbishop Helder Camara

http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm

Dan Abel 21-09-2009 04:54 AM

Any one else have a bad tomato season?
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Dan Abel wrote:


in the Petaluma Valley, in the flatlands within 1/2 mile of the Petaluma
River (which isn't actually a river at all, since it is brackish water
and flows backwards when the tide is coming in and there is no rain).


Sorry. By the way, brackish water that flows backwards when the tide is
coming in is called an estuary.


Didn't know that. I've heard it referred to as a "slough", but my
dictionary doesn't support that. It used to be the Petaluma Creek.
There is a lot of tonnage that travels on the river. That's mostly
because it's gravel, which is very heavy. When the creek got silted up,
the city asked the Army Corps of Engineers to dredge it. They just
laughed. They didn't dredge creeks, just rivers. So the city got the
state to change it to a river. So the Army Corps of Engineers dredged
it, and does it about every three years.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA


Billy[_8_] 22-09-2009 07:58 AM

OT Like the sig! ( Any one else have a bad tomato season?)
 
In article ,
"Bob Terwilliger" wrote:

Billy's sig was:

3When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why
the poor have no food, they call you a communist.2
-Archbishop Helder Camara


Heh... I hear that quote (using "I" and "me" instead of "you") frequently.
It's programmed into a game called "Sid Meier's Civilization IV". When your
civilization finishes researching communism, Leonard Nimoy's voice is heard
declaiming that quote.

Bob


I'm glade you like the sig. I think it sums up our condition quite well.
Sorry, I don't play games much. I've never heard of this game. Maybe the
Archbishop played it.
Does anyone find the observation in error?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hélder_Câmara
There seems to be a lot of lobbying for crops that use petroleum
fertilizers, but none for green manure and/or crop rotation. Why would
that be?
--
³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.²
-Archbishop Helder Camara

http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm

Jerry14 22-09-2009 11:50 AM

Sorry to hear you've had a bad year. I myself had a good season for tomatos, but my rhubarb didnt grow as much as I would have hoped for some reason. The best thing you can do is learn from the experience and plan for next year!


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