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I've been thinking about getting a greenhouse to extend my growing season
by a month or so on either end. Does any one have any experience with them and have any suggestions about what to get? Costco has a $300 coupon next week for a 8'x12' that will be $1300 after the discount. I assume at that price it's going to be polycaronate not glass. They are also selling an $8000 glass green house that's much nicer looking but I'm not sure that I'm up for spending that much. |
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"General Schvantzkoph" wrote in message ... I've been thinking about getting a greenhouse to extend my growing season by a month or so on either end. Does any one have any experience with them and have any suggestions about what to get? Costco has a $300 coupon next week for a 8'x12' that will be $1300 after the discount. I assume at that price it's going to be polycaronate not glass. They are also selling an $8000 glass green house that's much nicer looking but I'm not sure that I'm up for spending that much. Get the largest size you can, they fill up quick. and for the $8k range, I would go commercial at that point. I decided on the Harbor Freight's (HF) 10x12, it is ~ 750$ http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93358 or http://tinyurl.com/33mzq5 . I got it for $600 at the time, a grand less than the Costco one was. It's double wall poly also. Instructions are a bit difficult to understand, (call and get pics) and its frame seemed a bit less sturdy than the Costco one . but it has held well for last 2 years. A hoop house might have been cheaper, lots of free plans on the Internet for those but my wife wanted pretty and cheap as she wants to move. Do plan on benches & also consider electricity and water if you really want to extend your seasons. I ran a 20 amp circuit with GFI and 3/4 poly pipe w/ antisiphon hardware for added protection, Our code allows them in the same trench and we only have to go down 12", so it was one dig w/ a $60 a day trencher. Mine is on an old kennel slab with plastic decking as a frame to anchor it. Normal construction calls for gravel, so plan accordingly. I figure 3-5 yards of pea gravel to fill it in. lot of wheelborrowing if you can't dump inside it. Keep air moving inside, controls mold and strengthens plants. I got 2x 20" box fans from our local Hardware store for ventilation, but saw similar ones at Walmart for $20 ea. Dual outlet timers are ~ $20 at HF also, same item is $24-32 at the Big Boxes and garden stores . In the really hot parts of summer I built screen frames that fit inside the channels, the xtra cross ventilation cools pretty good. I'm telling you this because temps will jump to over 100 degrees as fast as inside a car when that sun hits it in the summer. You might have to consider shade cloth or whitewash if you live in a hotter climate. For xtra winter protection I am going to try 4 foot wide bubble wrap for inside insulation to give xtra protection. I also run 2 small oil heaters on low ~ 36f and have them turn off at 45. But we have mild ( but long cool winters). My raised beds are just outside so I start seeds inside on a couple of 4' heat mats and then move them outside. I have budgeted for 2x 6 light T5s for next spring in there. http://www.fullspectrumsolutions.com...res_35_ctg.htm or http://tinyurl.com/32btko also have 2 x1' square tube frames with feet spreaders for hanging plants inside.I wouldn't trust the walls or ends to hang anything from. Yesterday we loaded it up with my wife's plants she wants to overwinter . I have another hydro system to build this winter and put in there for next year. Similar to this one: http://extremegrowing.com/web/content/view/110/41/ or http://tinyurl.com/ykdzqwq. Use one of the inexpensive inside and outside remote weather info gadgets to watch your temps. another 20-30$. If there is anything I can help with, let me know. More Hydro: Dr. H. Resh: http://betterbuyhydroponics.com/inde...onic_Lettuce_3 or http://tinyurl.com/yfemr8h |
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:09:03 -0700, gunner wrote:
"General Schvantzkoph" wrote in message ... I've been thinking about getting a greenhouse to extend my growing season by a month or so on either end. Does any one have any experience with them and have any suggestions about what to get? Costco has a $300 coupon next week for a 8'x12' that will be $1300 after the discount. I assume at that price it's going to be polycaronate not glass. They are also selling an $8000 glass green house that's much nicer looking but I'm not sure that I'm up for spending that much. Get the largest size you can, they fill up quick. and for the $8k range, I would go commercial at that point. I decided on the Harbor Freight's (HF) 10x12, it is ~ 750$ http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93358 or http://tinyurl.com/33mzq5 . I got it for $600 at the time, a grand less than the Costco one was. It's double wall poly also. Instructions are a bit difficult to understand, (call and get pics) and its frame seemed a bit less sturdy than the Costco one . but it has held well for last 2 years. A hoop house might have been cheaper, lots of free plans on the Internet for those but my wife wanted pretty and cheap as she wants to move. Do plan on benches & also consider electricity and water if you really want to extend your seasons. I ran a 20 amp circuit with GFI and 3/4 poly pipe w/ antisiphon hardware for added protection, Our code allows them in the same trench and we only have to go down 12", so it was one dig w/ a $60 a day trencher. Mine is on an old kennel slab with plastic decking as a frame to anchor it. Normal construction calls for gravel, so plan accordingly. I figure 3-5 yards of pea gravel to fill it in. lot of wheelborrowing if you can't dump inside it. Keep air moving inside, controls mold and strengthens plants. I got 2x 20" box fans from our local Hardware store for ventilation, but saw similar ones at Walmart for $20 ea. Dual outlet timers are ~ $20 at HF also, same item is $24-32 at the Big Boxes and garden stores . In the really hot parts of summer I built screen frames that fit inside the channels, the xtra cross ventilation cools pretty good. I'm telling you this because temps will jump to over 100 degrees as fast as inside a car when that sun hits it in the summer. You might have to consider shade cloth or whitewash if you live in a hotter climate. For xtra winter protection I am going to try 4 foot wide bubble wrap for inside insulation to give xtra protection. I also run 2 small oil heaters on low ~ 36f and have them turn off at 45. But we have mild ( but long cool winters). My raised beds are just outside so I start seeds inside on a couple of 4' heat mats and then move them outside. I have budgeted for 2x 6 light T5s for next spring in there. http://www.fullspectrumsolutions.com/ commercial_lighting_fixtures_35_ctg.htm or http://tinyurl.com/32btko also have 2 x1' square tube frames with feet spreaders for hanging plants inside.I wouldn't trust the walls or ends to hang anything from. Yesterday we loaded it up with my wife's plants she wants to overwinter . I have another hydro system to build this winter and put in there for next year. Similar to this one: http://extremegrowing.com/web/content/view/110/41/ or http://tinyurl.com/ykdzqwq. Use one of the inexpensive inside and outside remote weather info gadgets to watch your temps. another 20-30$. If there is anything I can help with, let me know. More Hydro: Dr. H. Resh: http://betterbuyhydroponics.com/inde...onic_Lettuce_3 or http://tinyurl.com/yfemr8h Thanks for the suggestion, $750 is cheap enough to be used as an experiment to see if a greenhouse would be helpful, if I liked it I could get a nice glass one in the future. |
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gunner wrote:
"General Schvantzkoph" wrote in message ... I've been thinking about getting a greenhouse to extend my growing season by a month or so on either end. Does any one have any experience with them and have any suggestions about what to get? Costco has a $300 coupon next week for a 8'x12' that will be $1300 after the discount. I assume at that price it's going to be polycaronate not glass. They are also selling an $8000 glass green house that's much nicer looking but I'm not sure that I'm up for spending that much. snip A hoop house might have been cheaper, lots of free plans on the Internet for those but my wife wanted pretty and cheap as she wants to move. Working on a modified hoop myself at the moment. Straight sides with a hoop top. I just need 8' * 8' (all I have room for) and the curved walls would take up foot print. I'm bending 10' 3/4" irrigation pvc (thinner walls and cheaper) over 8'. That will arch up 2 1/2' and give strength and a nice rounded top (for water to run off). If it'll stop raining here, I can finish it! I think I just had my second batch of kale wash out. Jeff |
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"General Schvantzkoph" wrote in message ... On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:09:03 -0700, gunner wrote: "General Schvantzkoph" wrote in message ... Thanks for the suggestion, $750 is cheap enough to be used as an experiment to see if a greenhouse would be helpful, if I liked it I could get a nice glass one in the future. Exactly my thoughts when I started, now I want a sunroom or a Florida room attachment to the house, right next to the kitchen. Fresh herbs and lettuces are nice in Dec and Feb. The Tomatoes still have to wait for the sun until LEDs make an improvement. Which speaking of Solar panels, HF also has small solar lights to use for night lights. BTW here is a better link to Dr. Resh. That last one was a front for a Hydro store and not educational:http://www.howardresh.com/home.html For years I've used his books ; Hydroponic Food Production and Hydroponic Tomatoes as THE reference guide. The first one is a bit technical but lots of good information. |
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General Schvantzkoph wrote: I've been thinking about getting a greenhouse to extend my growing season by a month or so on either end. Does any one have any experience with them and have any suggestions about what to get? Costco has a $300 coupon next week for a 8'x12' that will be $1300 after the discount. I assume at that price it's going to be polycaronate not glass. They are also selling an $8000 glass green house that's much nicer looking but I'm not sure that I'm up for spending that much. Google for pop-up greenhouses. -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein Web Albums: http://picasaweb.google.com/home?tab=mq Subscribe: |
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:36:42 -0500, Omelet wrote:
In article , General Schvantzkoph wrote: I've been thinking about getting a greenhouse to extend my growing season by a month or so on either end. Does any one have any experience with them and have any suggestions about what to get? Costco has a $300 coupon next week for a 8'x12' that will be $1300 after the discount. I assume at that price it's going to be polycaronate not glass. They are also selling an $8000 glass green house that's much nicer looking but I'm not sure that I'm up for spending that much. Google for pop-up greenhouses. Thanks, that's and interesting solution. They're cheap and you can even get them at Home Depot. |
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General Schvantzkoph wrote: On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:36:42 -0500, Omelet wrote: In article , General Schvantzkoph wrote: I've been thinking about getting a greenhouse to extend my growing season by a month or so on either end. Does any one have any experience with them and have any suggestions about what to get? Costco has a $300 coupon next week for a 8'x12' that will be $1300 after the discount. I assume at that price it's going to be polycaronate not glass. They are also selling an $8000 glass green house that's much nicer looking but I'm not sure that I'm up for spending that much. Google for pop-up greenhouses. Thanks, that's and interesting solution. They're cheap and you can even get them at Home Depot. Mine lasted about 6 years. :-) The sun will eventually rot them, but they are far more affordable. Cheers! -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein Web Albums: http://picasaweb.google.com/home?tab=mq Subscribe: |
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:15:58 -0500, Omelet wrote:
In article , General Schvantzkoph wrote: On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:36:42 -0500, Omelet wrote: In article , General Schvantzkoph wrote: I've been thinking about getting a greenhouse to extend my growing season by a month or so on either end. Does any one have any experience with them and have any suggestions about what to get? Costco has a $300 coupon next week for a 8'x12' that will be $1300 after the discount. I assume at that price it's going to be polycaronate not glass. They are also selling an $8000 glass green house that's much nicer looking but I'm not sure that I'm up for spending that much. Google for pop-up greenhouses. Thanks, that's and interesting solution. They're cheap and you can even get them at Home Depot. Mine lasted about 6 years. :-) The sun will eventually rot them, but they are far more affordable. Cheers! How did you organize things in the greenhouses? Did you plant in the ground or did you keep everything on racks? |
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General Schvantzkoph wrote: On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:15:58 -0500, Omelet wrote: In article , General Schvantzkoph wrote: On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:36:42 -0500, Omelet wrote: In article , General Schvantzkoph wrote: I've been thinking about getting a greenhouse to extend my growing season by a month or so on either end. Does any one have any experience with them and have any suggestions about what to get? Costco has a $300 coupon next week for a 8'x12' that will be $1300 after the discount. I assume at that price it's going to be polycaronate not glass. They are also selling an $8000 glass green house that's much nicer looking but I'm not sure that I'm up for spending that much. Google for pop-up greenhouses. Thanks, that's and interesting solution. They're cheap and you can even get them at Home Depot. Mine lasted about 6 years. :-) The sun will eventually rot them, but they are far more affordable. Cheers! How did you organize things in the greenhouses? Did you plant in the ground or did you keep everything on racks? A little of both. Mostly on racks but some in the ground. They don't have floors. -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein Web Albums: http://picasaweb.google.com/home?tab=mq Subscribe: |
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General Schvantzkoph wrote: On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:15:58 -0500, Omelet wrote: In article , General Schvantzkoph wrote: On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:36:42 -0500, Omelet wrote: In article , General Schvantzkoph wrote: I've been thinking about getting a greenhouse to extend my growing season by a month or so on either end. Does any one have any experience with them and have any suggestions about what to get? Costco has a $300 coupon next week for a 8'x12' that will be $1300 after the discount. I assume at that price it's going to be polycaronate not glass. They are also selling an $8000 glass green house that's much nicer looking but I'm not sure that I'm up for spending that much. Google for pop-up greenhouses. Thanks, that's and interesting solution. They're cheap and you can even get them at Home Depot. Mine lasted about 6 years. :-) The sun will eventually rot them, but they are far more affordable. Cheers! How did you organize things in the greenhouses? Did you plant in the ground or did you keep everything on racks? Ps, I'm in the process of tearing down the three I have but am going to try to salvage the frames and just use those rolls of clear plastic over them. I'll post how it works out, if it does. -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein Web Albums: http://picasaweb.google.com/home?tab=mq Subscribe: |
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tamla wrote: 'Omelet[_4_ Wrote: ;867272']In article , General Schvantzkoph wrote: - On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:15:58 -0500, Omelet wrote: - In article , General Schvantzkoph wrote: - On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:36:42 -0500, Omelet wrote: In article , General Schvantzkoph wrote: I've been thinking about getting a greenhouse to extend my growing season by a month or so on either end. Does any one have any experience with them and have any suggestions about what to get? Costco has a $300 coupon next week for a 8'x12' that will be $1300 after the discount. I assume at that price it's going to be polycaronate not glass. They are also selling an $8000 glass green house that's much nicer looking but I'm not sure that I'm up for spending that much. Google for pop-up greenhouses. Thanks, that's and interesting solution. They're cheap and you can even get them at Home Depot.- Mine lasted about 6 years. :-) The sun will eventually rot them, but they are far more affordable. Cheers!- How did you organize things in the greenhouses? Did you plant in the ground or did you keep everything on racks?- Ps, I'm in the process of tearing down the three I have but am going to try to salvage the frames and just use those rolls of clear plastic over them. I'll post how it works out, if it does. -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein Web Albums: http://picasaweb.google.com/home?tab=mq Subscribe: Greenhouses & Gazebos It's that time of year when many homeowners are thinking of new ways to add some sparkle to their yards and gardens. By filling up their yard with a structure? yeah, sure, right. A new gazebo, greenhouse, shed or even a treehouse to your yard will become a centerpiece and a topic of conversation for years to come! So will the over priced, lousy, cheap piece of crap that you end up buying. Whether you're looking to relax outdoors in the comfort of your new gazebo, or start a new gardening operation in your new greenhouse, the possibilities are endless! Greenhouses and Gazebos is an independent website designed to help homeowners discover the wide variety of options available in outdoor buildings today. Inside this site you'll find information about products, installation, maintenance and other useful tips related to owning a new greenhouse or gazebo. Google "greenhouse" or "gazebo", if that is what you want, but don't support predatory spammers (like the above), who come to put up advertising on our newsgroup. -- ³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.² -Archbishop Helder Camara http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm |
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