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On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:33:56 -0500, phorbin wrote:

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Fortunately I had boiled the hell out of it before I ate it, boiling
removes the toxins although you are supposed to boil it twice and I
only boiled it once. I didn't have any symptoms but that's the last
time I eat any unfamiliar plant. My gardener had told me that he eats
this all the time but he is from Jamaica. I suspect that they have a
different plant that looks like pokeweed.


He probably identified it as a relative of a Jamaican variety of
pokeweed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callaloo

I did a bit more poking around and it's range through several varieties
runs from Canada right through South America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokeweed


I always knew that this is the way people died from mushrooms, they learn
to identify safe varieties on one continent and then they go mushroom
picking on a different continent and they mistake a deadly variety for a
similar appearing but unrelated variety from their home country. There
was a case recently here in Massachusetts where some Russians poisoned
themselves when they ate some Death Angel mushrooms that they found in
their backyard. My father told me a similar story when I was a child
about a little boy who had stolen mushrooms from a neighbors garden, that
night the family had wild mushrooms that they had picked in the forest
but as punishment for his crime the little boy wasn't allowed to eat any.
The mushrooms were poisonous and every member of the family died except
the little boy. For the last 50 years I've wondered why my father told me
that story since the moral of the tale is that crime pays. I assume the
reason he told me the story was because it was something that he had just
read in the newspaper and not because he was conveying a twisted morality
to me. My take on the story was to confine mushroom picking to the
produce aisle of the supermarket. I never realized that the lesson
extended to green plants also, I didn't realize that there were any
deadly leafy plants growing in North America, now I know better.


Now that you know better, please don't try the wild carrots. Some of them
could be hemlock!
Steve


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I while back some kids camped in a river bed where I used to live and
brought hot dogs to cook. They used oleander stems to cook them over the
fire, they started feeling sick they went home and died the next day. It was
pretty sad.

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On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:25:55 -0700, against all advice, something
compelled "aluckyguess" , to say:


I while back some kids camped in a river bed where I used to live and
brought hot dogs to cook. They used oleander stems to cook them over the
fire, they started feeling sick they went home and died the next day. It was
pretty sad.



I'll bet, no. Not really.

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/poison/oleander.asp


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On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:55:22 -0500, against all advice, something
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Steve Daniels wrote:

I'll bet, no. Not really.

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/poison/oleander.asp

However that same article goes on to say:
How poisonous is poisonous? Oleander (leaves and branches) is deemed extremely
dangerous,



I believe that oleander is poisonous. I don't believe a bunch of
kids on a campout died from a wienie roast near the OP's home.


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My father told me a similar story when I was a child
about a little boy who had stolen mushrooms from a neighbors garden, that
night the family had wild mushrooms that they had picked in the forest
but as punishment for his crime the little boy wasn't allowed to eat any.
The mushrooms were poisonous and every member of the family died except
the little boy. For the last 50 years I've wondered why my father told me
that story since the moral of the tale is that crime pays. I assume the
reason he told me the story was because it was something that he had just
read in the newspaper and not because he was conveying a twisted morality
to me. My take on the story was to confine mushroom picking to the
produce aisle of the supermarket. I never realized that the lesson
extended to green plants also, I didn't realize that there were any
deadly leafy plants growing in North America, now I know better.


Whichever way you turn it, the morel of the story is a little twisted.

I'd figure that if there was a message, he wanted you to latch onto the
idea that death, even if you think you know what you are doing, is ever
present ...and that this little boy was left completely alone in the
world for his crime.

A cruel, ironic punishment for a child.

There are a number of edible species with toxic lookalikes.
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