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Jimgentracer 24-08-2010 04:30 PM

Pepino Melon
 
does anyone know anything about growing these?

I was given one as a present

have watered it and its had a lot of son,, keeps producing yellow flowers with a small acorn sized fruit appearing behind them

Days later the fruit turns yellow and falls off

How big is the fruit?

maybe its full grown

I have had troub le locating an image of the plant

any ideas will gratefully be recieved

I have put two links below for you to see what I have

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...e/P1140363.jpg

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...e/P1140361.jpg

Hope that you can identify the plant from those

Thanks for any help

David Hare-Scott[_2_] 25-08-2010 12:59 AM

Pepino Melon
 
Jimgentracer wrote:
does anyone know anything about growing these?

I was given one as a present

have watered it and its had a lot of son,, keeps producing yellow
flowers with a small acorn sized fruit appearing behind them

Days later the fruit turns yellow and falls off

How big is the fruit?

maybe its full grown

I have had troub le locating an image of the plant

any ideas will gratefully be recieved

I have put two links below for you to see what I have

http://tinyurl.com/382yysr

http://tinyurl.com/2vkqb75

Hope that you can identify the plant from those

Thanks for any help


Before we descend into common name confusion hell is this what you are
talking about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepino

If so search on Solanum muricatum and you will no doubt get much more
information.

The photos you supplied do not look like that to me, yours looks like a
cucurbit not a solanum. Where did you get it? What did the supplier call
it?

David


Billy[_10_] 25-08-2010 01:48 AM

Pepino Melon
 
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Jimgentracer wrote:
does anyone know anything about growing these?

I was given one as a present

have watered it and its had a lot of son,, keeps producing yellow
flowers with a small acorn sized fruit appearing behind them

Days later the fruit turns yellow and falls off

How big is the fruit?

maybe its full grown

I have had troub le locating an image of the plant

any ideas will gratefully be recieved

I have put two links below for you to see what I have

http://tinyurl.com/382yysr

http://tinyurl.com/2vkqb75

Hope that you can identify the plant from those

Thanks for any help


Before we descend into common name confusion hell is this what you are
talking about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepino

If so search on Solanum muricatum and you will no doubt get much more
information.

The photos you supplied do not look like that to me, yours looks like a
cucurbit not a solanum. Where did you get it? What did the supplier call
it?

David


It looks like squash to me. Do you have pollinators? Fruit setting,
turning yellow, and falling off the vine while young, sounds as if it
wasn't pollinated. You should start hand pollinating to assure yourself
that this isn't the problem. The only climbing squash that I'm familiar
with is the genus Cucurbita moschata.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html

Pat Kiewicz[_2_] 25-08-2010 11:36 AM

Pepino Melon
 
Jimgentracer said:



does anyone know anything about growing these?

I was given one as a present

have watered it and its had a lot of son,, keeps producing yellow
flowers with a small acorn sized fruit appearing behind them

Days later the fruit turns yellow and falls off


Your plant is aborting the fruit, either due to lack of pollination or
because it is not robust enough to maintain the fruit.


I have put two links below for you to see what I have

http://tinyurl.com/382yysr

http://tinyurl.com/2vkqb75

Hope that you can identify the plant from those

Thanks for any help





--
Pat in Plymouth MI

"Vegetables are like bombs packed tight with all kinds of important
nutrients..." --Largo Potter, Valkyria Chronicles

email valid but not regularly monitored



Jimgentracer 26-08-2010 09:38 AM

Thanks for all the answers

I have to say I can only tell you what the card said on it

Pepino Melon

however, it certainly doesnt look like the solanum

the fruit on the card looked like an Orange coloured Galia Melon

How do I pollinated the fruit?

Im a total newbie

echinosum 26-08-2010 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimgentracer (Post 898502)
Thanks for all the answers

I have to say I can only tell you what the card said on it

Pepino Melon

however, it certainly doesnt look like the solanum

the fruit on the card looked like an Orange coloured Galia Melon

How do I pollinated the fruit?

Im a total newbie

Your post appeared in two places, and maybe you didn't see this reply I made elsewhere.
...
Pepino "melons", Solanum muricatum (so actually a member of the tomato/potato/chilli family) that I have bought in shops in Chile are about 6-8"/15-20cm long, and oval in end-to-end cross-section. So a bit bigger than an aubergine, but rather smaller than most melons. But there is a picture of one on the Wikipedia page, described as ripe, not much larger than a hen's egg, so they can be rather smaller than that. They do look like melons.

Their origin is, like many of the cultivated solanums, in the Andes. The original wild plant has not been found. They are cultivated at around 2000m to 3000m in the tropical Andes, and in the mediterranean climate area of Chile. I came across them being grown at around 1500m in the Cameron Highlands of Malaysia, but they weren't very good, perhaps too warm. I believe they are also grown in the northern parts of New Zealand.

They are known to be trickier than chillis to grow. But in general, I would say that if you have the conditions right to grow aubergines without any trouble, or tamarillos (tree tomatoes), then you should have the conditions about right for these.
...
Additional comments on your latest:

Solanums are generally self-pollinating.

Solanum flowers are generally pretty obviously different from curcurbit (squash family) flowers, though if you are total newbie you may not recognise the difference. A few images from google might help. If you decide what you have is a curcurbit, then it wasn't a pepino melon, you were misled. But this is always a problem when plant sellers sell things with just popular names.

Jimgentracer 26-08-2010 04:05 PM

Is there such a name as PEPITO Melon?

Billy[_10_] 26-08-2010 04:45 PM

Pepino Melon
 
In article ,
Jimgentracer wrote:

Thanks for all the answers

I have to say I can only tell you what the card said on it

Pepino Melon

however, it certainly doesnt look like the solanum

the fruit on the card looked like an Orange coloured Galia Melon

How do I pollinated the fruit?

Im a total newbie


For squash, you will notice that some of the flowers are on short stems
and others are on long stems. The easiest way to pollinate them is to
pick one of the long stemmed flowers, pull off the petals, and then
swirl it around inside the short stemmed flower for a couple of seconds,
and you're done.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html

Billy[_10_] 26-08-2010 10:15 PM

Pepino Melon
 
In article ,
Jimgentracer wrote:

Is there such a name as PEPITO Melon?


I'm sure there is. As a matter of fact, I'm looking at it right now.
Do you suppose someone could "google" PEPITO Melon?
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html

Jimgentracer 26-08-2010 10:26 PM

now that way sounds kind of easy

will have a go tomorrow

Bill who putters 26-08-2010 10:33 PM

Pepino Melon
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Jimgentracer wrote:

Is there such a name as PEPITO Melon?


I'm sure there is. As a matter of fact, I'm looking at it right now.
Do you suppose someone could "google" PEPITO Melon?


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PEPINO+Melon

--
Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden
globalvoicesonline.org
http://www.davidmccandless.com/



David Hare-Scott[_2_] 27-08-2010 12:33 AM

Pepino Melon
 
Jimgentracer wrote:
Is there such a name as PEPITO Melon?


Have you done any web searching on your own behalf or are you counting on us
doing it all for you? You are likely to get more help if you show that you
have at least tried to find out yourself.

David


Billy[_10_] 27-08-2010 12:44 AM

Pepino Melon
 
In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Jimgentracer wrote:

Is there such a name as PEPITO Melon?


I'm sure there is. As a matter of fact, I'm looking at it right now.
Do you suppose someone could "google" PEPITO Melon?


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PEPINO+Melon


Bill, he wanted PEPITO Melon

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PEPITO+Melon
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html

David Hare-Scott[_2_] 27-08-2010 12:46 AM

Pepino Melon
 
Billy wrote:
In article ,
Jimgentracer wrote:

Is there such a name as PEPITO Melon?


I'm sure there is. As a matter of fact, I'm looking at it right now.
Do you suppose someone could "google" PEPITO Melon?


There must be something cultural about gardenbanter that makes them take on
this degree of helplessness. It seems an attitude unrelated to level of
gardening knowledge. I find it quite odd.

David


Jimgentracer 27-08-2010 08:10 AM

Banter is exactly why this forum is here I thought David...

I have done a lot of web searching and in fact found this to be the nicest spot to ask

However, it seems like all forums there always seems to be those who dont enjoy the banter and swapping of ideas liberally.

"BANTER" is described on google as a

"Supple term used to describe activities or chat that is playful, intelligent and original. Banter is something you either posses or lack, there is no middle ground. It is also something inherently English, stemming as it does from traditional hi-jinks and tomfoolery of British yesteryear"

Generally, I enjoy sharing ideas as this develops knowledge.

I feel a little "corrected" by your remark

Should I feel like this?

I think not

echinosum 27-08-2010 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimgentracer (Post 898347)
I have put two links below for you to see what I have
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...e/P1140363.jpg
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/s...e/P1140361.jpg
Hope that you can identify the plant from those

I should have looked at these before. You don't have a pepino melon, you have something from the squash family.

Pat Kiewicz[_2_] 27-08-2010 11:35 AM

Pepino Melon
 
echinosum said:

Pepino "melons", Solanum muricatum (so actually a member of the
tomato/potato/chilli family) that I have bought in shops in Chile are
about 6-8"/15-20cm long, and oval in end-to-end cross-section. So a bit
bigger than an aubergine, but rather smaller than most melons. But there
is a picture of one on the Wikipedia page, described as ripe, not much
larger than a hen's egg, so they can be rather smaller than that. They
do look like melons.

Their origin is, like many of the cultivated solanums, in the Andes. The
original wild plant has not been found. They are cultivated at around
2000m to 3000m in the tropical Andes, and in the mediterranean climate
area of Chile. I came across them being grown at around 1500m in the
Cameron Highlands of Malaysia, but they weren't very good, perhaps too
warm. I believe they are also grown in the northern parts of New
Zealand.

They are known to be trickier than chillis to grow. But in general, I
would say that if you have the conditions right to grow aubergines
without any trouble, or tamarillos (tree tomatoes), then you should have
the conditions about right for these.


This year's experiment was to attempt growing Pepino 'melons' but
had a lot of trouble with germination. I only had about six seeds, not
all of them germinated, and the seeds that did seemed to have a
problem getting the seed leaves out of the seed coat. I managed to
raise only one plant to set out in the garden (I had aimed for two).

It grew into a large, healthy plant but none of the flowers set fruit.
So, I'm thinking this might be one of those members of the Solanum
family that aren't self-fertile.

I'm willing to try at least one more time, and see if I can get two
plants to transplant size next year. This year's plant seemed even
more robust than my eggplants and had a number of flower trusses,
It just never set fruit..

--
Pat in Plymouth MI

"Vegetables are like bombs packed tight with all kinds of important
nutrients..." --Largo Potter, Valkyria Chronicles

email valid but not regularly monitored



David Hare-Scott[_2_] 27-08-2010 01:31 PM

Pepino Melon
 
Jimgentracer wrote:
Banter is exactly why this forum is here I thought David...


Not entirely. Perhaps you don't realise that gardenbanter links to the
usenet newsgroup rec.gardens.edible. Most of the posts you see are not sent
via gardenbanter. The newsgroup is international and about growing edibles.
Along the way you will get some banter but that is not its primary purpose.

I have done a lot of web searching and in fact found this to be the
nicest spot to ask

However, it seems like all forums there always seems to be those who
dont enjoy the banter and swapping of ideas liberally.


There is nothing at all wrong with banter and swapping ideas liberally.


"BANTER" is described on google as a

"Supple term used to describe activities or chat that is playful,
intelligent and original. Banter is something you either posses or
lack, there is no middle ground. It is also something inherently
English, stemming as it does from traditional hi-jinks and tomfoolery
of British yesteryear"

Generally, I enjoy sharing ideas as this develops knowledge.


So do most of us.

I feel a little "corrected" by your remark

Should I feel like this?

I think not


My point was that you came across as expecting others to do basic internet
searching that you could readily do yourself. Interchange between people is
good if the subject is complex or you don't know how to frame the question.
For a very simple clear question like "Is there such a name as PEPITO
Melon?" a search engine is quicker and more effective than a human.

David




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