Sue wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2011 16:21:55 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On May 11, 7:11 pm, Sue wrote:
I am really late getting my garden in this year and finally have the
ground prepared. Whatever tomatoes I planted last year just didn't do
well for canning purposes. I'm not starting from seeds and get my
plants at Lowe's or Home Depot. Any suggestion on a good variety to
can (that I would find at either of those two stores)? My garden is
*very* small so I can't put in too many plants.
Sue in the San Joaquin Valley of Calif.
If your canning for sauce Roma's are the best and the grow in a fairly
compact plant.

Sorry. I should have been more specific. No, I grow for stewed
tomatoes - tomatoes with onion, celery and bell peppers.
Sue


Any tomato will work then. Maybe plant a couple Better Boy and one
something-else (Roma?) Better Boy is a hybrid all-purpose tomato. It
has good flavor and usually yields very high.

Bob

zxcvbob wrote:
Sue wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2011 16:21:55 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:
On May 11, 7:11 pm, Sue wrote:
I am really late getting my garden in this year and finally have the
ground prepared. Whatever tomatoes I planted last year just didn't do
well for canning purposes. I'm not starting from seeds and get my
plants at Lowe's or Home Depot. Any suggestion on a good variety to
can (that I would find at either of those two stores)? My garden is
*very* small so I can't put in too many plants.
Sue in the San Joaquin Valley of Calif.
If your canning for sauce Roma's are the best and the grow in a fairly
compact plant.
Sorry. I should have been more specific. No, I grow for stewed
tomatoes - tomatoes with onion, celery and bell peppers.
Sue


Any tomato will work then. Maybe plant a couple Better Boy and one
something-else (Roma?) Better Boy is a hybrid all-purpose tomato. It
has good flavor and usually yields very high.

Bob

Find a local green house nursery instead of the big box warehouse places.
Nurseries will have healthier and a greater selection of plants.

Tomatoes for canning are divided into two categories, "Plum" and "Globe".
Plums tomatoes are great for sauces they have a higher pulp to juice ratio.
Plums also have Plum shape to them, tends to be long and tapered at the
ends. Globes are more rounded and good for general canning and for soups.
Romas "plum" tomatoes are good for sauces and Big Boys "globe" tomatoes are
good for Juices and Soups.

Get a Roma food strainer for canning tomatoes.

http://www.amazon.com/Roma-Strainer-...5163133&sr=1-4

This is cheap model their are other machines. I would also get the Ball
Complete book for home preservation. The bible of home canning.

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Prese...5163671&sr=1-2


--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

Nad R wrote:
Sue wrote:
Sorry. I should have been more specific. No, I grow for stewed
tomatoes - tomatoes with onion, celery and bell peppers.
Sue

I could not let myself pass that one up. If you are canning with peppers
and and onions I hope you are using a pressure canner. Using a water bath
canning with peppers can be very very bad news. For the note a pressure
canner is not the same as a pressure cooker. Something like in the link.

http://www.amazon.com/All-American-9...5164352&sr=8-1

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Thu, 12 May 2011 01:41:17 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
wrote:

Nad R wrote:
Sue wrote:
Sorry. I should have been more specific. No, I grow for stewed
tomatoes - tomatoes with onion, celery and bell peppers.
Sue

I could not let myself pass that one up. If you are canning with peppers
and and onions I hope you are using a pressure canner. Using a water bath
canning with peppers can be very very bad news. For the note a pressure
canner is not the same as a pressure cooker. Something like in the link.

I've always used water bath with the peppers and onions. So far, so
good. I've used recipes that allow water bath with these veggies. I'm
terrified of pressure canning.
Sue

Sue wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2011 01:41:17 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
wrote:

Nad R wrote:
Sue wrote:
Sorry. I should have been more specific. No, I grow for stewed
tomatoes - tomatoes with onion, celery and bell peppers.
Sue

I could not let myself pass that one up. If you are canning with peppers
and and onions I hope you are using a pressure canner. Using a water bath
canning with peppers can be very very bad news. For the note a pressure
canner is not the same as a pressure cooker. Something like in the link.

I've always used water bath with the peppers and onions. So far, so
good. I've used recipes that allow water bath with these veggies. I'm
terrified of pressure canning.
Sue

I am terrified of botulism. New pressure canners have safety features.
Count yourself lucky so far. The link is just one of many. For veggies I
prefer pickling or freezing otherwise the pressure canner is the only way
to go. I use the pressure canner for all veggies including tomato products.
Tomatoes can go either way Water Bath or Pressure. The only time I use the
water bath is for Fruit jellies.

Once you learn how to use your pressure canner. One can make different
kinds of soups and I can the extra with my small four quart pressure
canner. Great for stocks also. One can get good at it, by the time I eat
dinner and clean up, the extra is canned good for the year.

http://www.pickyourown.org/canningpeppers.htm
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Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Thu, 12 May 2011 01:29:59 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
wrote:

zxcvbob wrote:
Sue wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2011 16:21:55 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:
On May 11, 7:11 pm, Sue wrote:
I am really late getting my garden in this year and finally have the
ground prepared. Whatever tomatoes I planted last year just didn't do
well for canning purposes. I'm not starting from seeds and get my
plants at Lowe's or Home Depot. Any suggestion on a good variety to
can (that I would find at either of those two stores)? My garden is
*very* small so I can't put in too many plants.
Sue in the San Joaquin Valley of Calif.
If your canning for sauce Roma's are the best and the grow in a fairly
compact plant.
Sorry. I should have been more specific. No, I grow for stewed
tomatoes - tomatoes with onion, celery and bell peppers.
Sue


Any tomato will work then. Maybe plant a couple Better Boy and one
something-else (Roma?) Better Boy is a hybrid all-purpose tomato. It
has good flavor and usually yields very high.

Bob

Find a local green house nursery instead of the big box warehouse places.
Nurseries will have healthier and a greater selection of plants.

Chuckle. We have no local green house. The closest possible would be
35 miles from here. Since I have no pressing need to go out of town
in the next few days (my only reason is for doctor's appts) the cost
would be pretty awful considering the price of gas right now.


Tomatoes for canning are divided into two categories, "Plum" and "Globe".
Plums tomatoes are great for sauces they have a higher pulp to juice ratio.
Plums also have Plum shape to them, tends to be long and tapered at the
ends. Globes are more rounded and good for general canning and for soups.
Romas "plum" tomatoes are good for sauces and Big Boys "globe" tomatoes are
good for Juices and Soups.

One problem I had last year was that I didn't have enough tomatoes at
any given time to can. I'm thinking maybe my error was in getting two
different varieties (2 plants each). I don't know. They just weren't
successful.
Sue

Sue wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2011 01:29:59 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
wrote:

Find a local green house nursery instead of the big box warehouse places.
Nurseries will have healthier and a greater selection of plants.

Chuckle. We have no local green house. The closest possible would be
35 miles from here. Since I have no pressing need to go out of town
in the next few days (my only reason is for doctor's appts) the cost
would be pretty awful considering the price of gas right now.

You must be living in the city. I live in the country were their are lots
of green houses and nurseries. I love the nurseries where thousands of
plants of many kinds surround you. The colors and the numerous sweet earthy
smells... Better than going to a movie.

Tomatoes for canning are divided into two categories, "Plum" and "Globe".
Plums tomatoes are great for sauces they have a higher pulp to juice ratio.
Plums also have Plum shape to them, tends to be long and tapered at the
ends. Globes are more rounded and good for general canning and for soups.
Romas "plum" tomatoes are good for sauces and Big Boys "globe" tomatoes are
good for Juices and Soups.

One problem I had last year was that I didn't have enough tomatoes at
any given time to can. I'm thinking maybe my error was in getting two
different varieties (2 plants each). I don't know. They just weren't
successful.
Sue

I will subdivide tomatoes once again. Their are two kinds of tomatoes
plants, "Determinate" and "InDeterminate". Determinate tomatoes ripen on
the vine all at once which are great for canning. Determinate tomatoes have
a single stalk that grows upwards, Romas and Beefsteaks are determinate.
Indeterminate tomato plants provide fruits throughout the season, never
enough for canning. Indeterminate tomato plants are bush like with no main
stalk. Examples of indeterminate tomato plants are "Early Girl" and
"Cherry". You will not get enough to even think about canning.

Indeterminate tomatoes use those ring like tomato supports. Determinate
tomatoes plants tend to use ladder supports. I would think for canning
small amounts, six plants at least would be a minimum. Around Three pounds
of tomatoes for each quart of whole canned tomatoes. I will be growing
close to forty tomato plants for canning this fall for me myself and I.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

In article ,
Nad R wrote:

Determinate tomatoes ripen on
the vine all at once which are great for canning.

Make that "all at once-ish". It's more like a bell curve with a few
ripening, leading to a lot ripening, and goes back to a few ripening,
and ends with winter.
--
- Billy

Bush's 3rd term: Obama plus another elective war
Bush's 4th term: another Judas goat

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://theuptake.org/2011/03/05/michael-moore-the-big-lie-wisconsin-is-broke/

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Nad R wrote:

Determinate tomatoes ripen on
the vine all at once which are great for canning.

Make that "all at once-ish". It's more like a bell curve with a few
ripening, leading to a lot ripening, and goes back to a few ripening,
and ends with winter.

Ouch...that hurts!
My math teacher always did hit me with that ruler for not adding my error
rates.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

In article ,
Nad R wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Nad R wrote:

Determinate tomatoes ripen on
the vine all at once which are great for canning.

Make that "all at once-ish". It's more like a bell curve with a few
ripening, leading to a lot ripening, and goes back to a few ripening,
and ends with winter.

Ouch...that hurts!
My math teacher always did hit me with that ruler for not adding my error
rates.

Too young to hit with a slide rule, huh?
--
- Billy

Bush's 3rd term: Obama plus another elective war
Bush's 4th term: another Judas goat

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://theuptake.org/2011/03/05/michael-moore-the-big-lie-wisconsin-is-broke/

On Thu, 12 May 2011 07:05:27 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
wrote:

Sue wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2011 01:29:59 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
wrote:

Find a local green house nursery instead of the big box warehouse places.
Nurseries will have healthier and a greater selection of plants.

Chuckle. We have no local green house. The closest possible would be
35 miles from here. Since I have no pressing need to go out of town
in the next few days (my only reason is for doctor's appts) the cost
would be pretty awful considering the price of gas right now.

You must be living in the city. I live in the country were their are lots
of green houses and nurseries. I love the nurseries where thousands of
plants of many kinds surround you. The colors and the numerous sweet earthy
smells... Better than going to a movie.

LOL. No city here. I live in a town of 34,000 in the San Joaquin
Valley of California. Thousands of acres of commercially grown
canning tomatoes grown around here (as well as cotton, almonds,
cantaloupes, sugar beats, wheat, dairy cows, sheep. Oh, I could go
out into a field and get the tomatoes I suppose but I'd rather grow
them myself. No, there is no nursery around here other than an orchid
nursery.


Tomatoes for canning are divided into two categories, "Plum" and "Globe".
Plums tomatoes are great for sauces they have a higher pulp to juice ratio.
Plums also have Plum shape to them, tends to be long and tapered at the
ends. Globes are more rounded and good for general canning and for soups.
Romas "plum" tomatoes are good for sauces and Big Boys "globe" tomatoes are
good for Juices and Soups.

One problem I had last year was that I didn't have enough tomatoes at
any given time to can. I'm thinking maybe my error was in getting two
different varieties (2 plants each). I don't know. They just weren't
successful.
Sue

I will subdivide tomatoes once again. Their are two kinds of tomatoes
plants, "Determinate" and "InDeterminate". Determinate tomatoes ripen on
the vine all at once which are great for canning. Determinate tomatoes have
a single stalk that grows upwards, Romas and Beefsteaks are determinate.
Indeterminate tomato plants provide fruits throughout the season, never
enough for canning. Indeterminate tomato plants are bush like with no main
stalk. Examples of indeterminate tomato plants are "Early Girl" and
"Cherry". You will not get enough to even think about canning.

Indeterminate tomatoes use those ring like tomato supports. Determinate
tomatoes plants tend to use ladder supports. I would think for canning
small amounts, six plants at least would be a minimum. Around Three pounds
of tomatoes for each quart of whole canned tomatoes. I will be growing
close to forty tomato plants for canning this fall for me myself and I.

Excellent info. I knew about the two types and suspected that's where
I may have gone wrong in the last couple of years. I think it was
just luck my first 3 years of growing tomatoes. Thanks!
Sue

Sue wrote:

LOL. No city here. I live in a town of 34,000 in the San Joaquin

Wow! That's massive! My township I live in has less than 5,000 people for
100 square miles... You must be living on top of each other no wonder
you only have space for just a couple of plants

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Fri, 13 May 2011 00:50:16 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
wrote:

Sue wrote:

LOL. No city here. I live in a town of 34,000 in the San Joaquin

Wow! That's massive! My township I live in has less than 5,000 people for
100 square miles... You must be living on top of each other no wonder
you only have space for just a couple of plants

) I understand. I used to live in a small town in Alaska.

On Thu, 12 May 2011 07:05:27 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
wrote:



I will subdivide tomatoes once again. Their are two kinds of tomatoes
plants, "Determinate" and "InDeterminate". Determinate tomatoes ripen on
the vine all at once which are great for canning. Determinate tomatoes have
a single stalk that grows upwards, Romas and Beefsteaks are determinate.
Indeterminate tomato plants provide fruits throughout the season, never
enough for canning. Indeterminate tomato plants are bush like with no main
stalk. Examples of indeterminate tomato plants are "Early Girl" and
"Cherry". You will not get enough to even think about canning.

The Early Girl were labeled as determinate. Oops.
Sue

Sue wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2011 07:05:27 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
wrote:



I will subdivide tomatoes once again. Their are two kinds of tomatoes
plants, "Determinate" and "InDeterminate". Determinate tomatoes ripen on
the vine all at once which are great for canning. Determinate tomatoes have
a single stalk that grows upwards, Romas and Beefsteaks are determinate.
Indeterminate tomato plants provide fruits throughout the season, never
enough for canning. Indeterminate tomato plants are bush like with no main
stalk. Examples of indeterminate tomato plants are "Early Girl" and
"Cherry". You will not get enough to even think about canning.

The Early Girl were labeled as determinate. Oops.
Sue

I wish I was perfect
Sounds like you know the process of selecting the kind of tomato you want.
Now where did I put that Arecept memory drug.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)