beetroot
 

Does anyone know when to harvest beetroot, or is it a case of different times for different types?

beetroot
 

fletcher wrote:
Does anyone know when to harvest beetroot, or is it a case of
different times for different types?

Cut it when it is the size you like to eat. If you don't know what that is
experiment. It does tend to get woody when over large.

D

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fletcher wrote:

Does anyone know when to harvest beetroot, or is it a case of different
times for different types?

depending upon soil condition and how much
rain you've been having... usually, any time
you like up to about baseball size is good
for many varieties. if you are pickling or
particularly interested in cuteness or
presentation then pick them anywhere from
quarter to golf ball sized (but it means more
work to prepare them).

we have a hard time letting them get very big.

the greens can be used too.


songbird

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In article ,
songbird wrote:

fletcher wrote:

Does anyone know when to harvest beetroot, or is it a case of different
times for different types?

depending upon soil condition and how much
rain you've been having... usually, any time
you like up to about baseball size is good
for many varieties. if you are pickling or
particularly interested in cuteness or
presentation then pick them anywhere from
quarter to golf ball sized (but it means more
work to prepare them).

we have a hard time letting them get very big.

the greens can be used too.

Cook like chard: olive oil, garlic, and sautée.

songbird
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

beetroot
 

Billy wrote:
In article ,
songbird wrote:

fletcher wrote:

Does anyone know when to harvest beetroot, or is it a case of
different times for different types?

depending upon soil condition and how much
rain you've been having... usually, any time
you like up to about baseball size is good
for many varieties. if you are pickling or
particularly interested in cuteness or
presentation then pick them anywhere from
quarter to golf ball sized (but it means more
work to prepare them).

we have a hard time letting them get very big.

the greens can be used too.

Cook like chard: olive oil, garlic, and sautée.


It is chard.

D

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In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
songbird wrote:

fletcher wrote:

Does anyone know when to harvest beetroot, or is it a case of
different times for different types?

depending upon soil condition and how much
rain you've been having... usually, any time
you like up to about baseball size is good
for many varieties. if you are pickling or
particularly interested in cuteness or
presentation then pick them anywhere from
quarter to golf ball sized (but it means more
work to prepare them).

we have a hard time letting them get very big.

the greens can be used too.

Cook like chard: olive oil, garlic, and sautée.


It is chard.

D

Same genus, but not the same species. The former is Beta cicla, and the
later Beta vulgaris. Morphologically Beta cicla is grown for its leaves,
whereas Beta vulgaris is grown for its root. However, we prefer the
leaves of Beta vulgaris to the leaves of Beta cicla for flavor. Prepare
as above for chard.
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

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Billy wrote:

Same genus, but not the same species. The former is Beta cicla, and the
later Beta vulgaris.

May be, and I'm too lazy to dig out my copy of St. Ashworth*, BUT:
The Seed Saver's Exchange, in the front of the annual yearbook for member
swaps says, "Swiss Chard- any beet that is grown for its greens." Probably
makes life easier for knowing where to put stuff.


*Suzanne Ashworth will be one of the speakers at the SSE campout convention
weekend of 7/15; I'll try to resist kissing Her ring or something.

P.S. I found it-"Seed to Seed" calls Garden Beet, Sugar Beet, Swiss Chard,
Mangel, all Beta Vulgaris.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

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In article ,
Gary Woods wrote:

Billy wrote:

Same genus, but not the same species. The former is Beta cicla, and the
later Beta vulgaris.

May be, and I'm too lazy to dig out my copy of St. Ashworth*, BUT:
The Seed Saver's Exchange, in the front of the annual yearbook for member
swaps says, "Swiss Chard- any beet that is grown for its greens." Probably
makes life easier for knowing where to put stuff.


*Suzanne Ashworth will be one of the speakers at the SSE campout convention
weekend of 7/15; I'll try to resist kissing Her ring or something.

P.S. I found it-"Seed to Seed" calls Garden Beet, Sugar Beet, Swiss Chard,
Mangel, all Beta Vulgaris.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Whether it is Beta vulgaris L., or Beta vulgaris subsp. cicla, you eat
the root of one, and the leaves of the other. Clearly they aren't the
same thing. (You're really gonna make me work for this one, aren't you;O)
Now go away, you're blocking the view.
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

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Billy wrote:

Now go away, you're blocking the view.

A little harsh, eh?

You've never eaten beet leaves? Taste a lot like chard?

Oh, well, I'm going....


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

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"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
songbird wrote:

fletcher wrote:

Does anyone know when to harvest beetroot, or is it a case of
different times for different types?

depending upon soil condition and how much
rain you've been having... usually, any time
you like up to about baseball size is good
for many varieties. if you are pickling or
particularly interested in cuteness or
presentation then pick them anywhere from
quarter to golf ball sized (but it means more
work to prepare them).

we have a hard time letting them get very big.

the greens can be used too.

Cook like chard: olive oil, garlic, and sautée.


It is chard.

D

Same genus, but not the same species. The former is Beta cicla, and the
later Beta vulgaris. Morphologically Beta cicla is grown for its leaves,
whereas Beta vulgaris is grown for its root. However, we prefer the
leaves of Beta vulgaris to the leaves of Beta cicla for flavor. Prepare
as above for chard.

You've got those two round the wrong way surely?

beetroot
 

In article ,
Gary Woods wrote:

Billy wrote:

Now go away, you're blocking the view.

A little harsh, eh?

You've never eaten beet leaves? Taste a lot like chard?

Oh, well, I'm going....


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Jeez, what the hell. Yeah, as I mentioned, we prefer beet greens (Beta
vulgaris L.) to Swiss chard (Beta vulgaris subsp. cicla). You're not
going to miss much. Not much of a view from cyberspace. Pixels are
really limited, ya know? You're making me look like a cranky old man.
Say what you like. I am not old.
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

beetroot
 

In article ,
Gary Woods wrote:

Billy wrote:

Now go away, you're blocking the view.

A little harsh, eh?

You've never eaten beet leaves? Taste a lot like chard?

Oh, well, I'm going....


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

I would have sworn that David would come out to play. (shrug)
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

beetroot
 

In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
songbird wrote:

fletcher wrote:

Does anyone know when to harvest beetroot, or is it a case of
different times for different types?

depending upon soil condition and how much
rain you've been having... usually, any time
you like up to about baseball size is good
for many varieties. if you are pickling or
particularly interested in cuteness or
presentation then pick them anywhere from
quarter to golf ball sized (but it means more
work to prepare them).

we have a hard time letting them get very big.

the greens can be used too.

Cook like chard: olive oil, garlic, and sautée.


It is chard.

D

Same genus, but not the same species. The former is Beta cicla, and the
later Beta vulgaris. Morphologically Beta cicla is grown for its leaves,
whereas Beta vulgaris is grown for its root. However, we prefer the
leaves of Beta vulgaris to the leaves of Beta cicla for flavor. Prepare
as above for chard.

You've got those two round the wrong way surely?

We are NOW calling them Beta vulgaris L. (the beet), and Beta vulgaris
subsp. cicla (the Swiss chard). Don't block the view.
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

beetroot
 

"Billy" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
songbird wrote:

fletcher wrote:

Does anyone know when to harvest beetroot, or is it a case of
different times for different types?

depending upon soil condition and how much
rain you've been having... usually, any time
you like up to about baseball size is good
for many varieties. if you are pickling or
particularly interested in cuteness or
presentation then pick them anywhere from
quarter to golf ball sized (but it means more
work to prepare them).

we have a hard time letting them get very big.

the greens can be used too.

Cook like chard: olive oil, garlic, and sautée.


It is chard.

D

Same genus, but not the same species. The former is Beta cicla, and the
later Beta vulgaris. Morphologically Beta cicla is grown for its
leaves,
whereas Beta vulgaris is grown for its root. However, we prefer the
leaves of Beta vulgaris to the leaves of Beta cicla for flavor. Prepare

as above for chard.

You've got those two round the wrong way surely?

We are NOW calling them Beta vulgaris L. (the beet), and Beta vulgaris
subsp. cicla (the Swiss chard).

Fair enough. I love both of them so name doesn't really get in my way.

Don't block the view.

Well sit down back there and wait till I sit down. Either that, or don't
try looking round me when I've got my big sunhat on!

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Billy wrote:
In article ,
Gary Woods wrote:

Billy wrote:

Now go away, you're blocking the view.

A little harsh, eh?

You've never eaten beet leaves? Taste a lot like chard?

Oh, well, I'm going....


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at
home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420'
elevation. NY WO G

I would have sworn that David would come out to play. (shrug)

Again? I served.

D

beetroot
 

Billy wrote:

Pixels are
really limited, ya know? You're making me look like a cranky old man.
Say what you like. I am not old.

Now I'm really, really puzzled: Where did I say anything about your age,
or impute a heightened level of A(crank)? I've been well aware of the
limitations of cyberspace, ever since the first BBS programs ran on a
dial-in line on a Commodore 64, and it hasn't gotten any better.
As for the Beta name game, I am not a botanist, nor do I play one on TV.
You now seem to have chard as a sub species, which is getting close to
"variety" or "landrace." I notice that even the scientific types who
determine these things keep changing their minds, much to the dismay of
nursery folk.
I'm sure the "blocking the view" bit is a reference missing from my
archives; not to worry, the biggest hat I have is a cloth fisherman's
hat-think Walter Matthau.
I gotta go plant something....leaving for the SSE campout next week, and
I'm way behind as usual.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

beetroot
 

In article ,
Gary Woods wrote:

Billy wrote:

Pixels are
really limited, ya know? You're making me look like a cranky old man.
Say what you like. I am not old.

Now I'm really, really puzzled: Where did I say anything about your age,
or impute a heightened level of A(crank)? I've been well aware of the
limitations of cyberspace, ever since the first BBS programs ran on a
dial-in line on a Commodore 64, and it hasn't gotten any better.
As for the Beta name game, I am not a botanist, nor do I play one on TV.
You now seem to have chard as a sub species, which is getting close to
"variety" or "landrace." I notice that even the scientific types who
determine these things keep changing their minds, much to the dismay of
nursery folk.
I'm sure the "blocking the view" bit is a reference missing from my
archives; not to worry, the biggest hat I have is a cloth fisherman's
hat-think Walter Matthau.
I gotta go plant something....leaving for the SSE campout next week, and
I'm way behind as usual.

Is that the Society for Sensible Explanations, or Seed Saver's Exchange?
Bring back a doggie bag of knowledge in any event.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

beetroot
 

In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
Gary Woods wrote:

Billy wrote:

Now go away, you're blocking the view.

A little harsh, eh?

You've never eaten beet leaves? Taste a lot like chard?

Oh, well, I'm going....


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at
home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420'
elevation. NY WO G

I would have sworn that David would come out to play. (shrug)

Again? I served.

D

Huh? It must have been the wrong table.
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

beetroot
 

Billy wrote:

Is that the Society for Sensible Explanations, or Seed Saver's Exchange?
The latter; it's a 3-day road trip from here, with visits, sightseeing,
etc. on the way.

Bring back a doggie bag of knowledge in any event.

Suzanne Ashworth is speaking, and I'll get the newest edition of "Seed to
Seed" autographed, and possibly kiss her ring, or approach on my knees or
something. Most-used book on the shelf here.
Last year, quite by chance, I met Rob Johnston.

There will be lots of pictures!





Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

beetroot
 

In article ,
Gary Woods wrote:

Billy wrote:

Is that the Society for Sensible Explanations, or Seed Saver's Exchange?
The latter; it's a 3-day road trip from here, with visits, sightseeing,
etc. on the way.

Do you go by Cleveland, or Toronto?

No electricity for campers. I hope they have hot showers.


Bring back a doggie bag of knowledge in any event.

Suzanne Ashworth is speaking, and I'll get the newest edition of "Seed to
Seed" autographed, and possibly kiss her ring, or approach on my knees or
something. Most-used book on the shelf here.
Last year, quite by chance, I met Rob Johnston.

There will be lots of pictures!





Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

beetroot
 

"Gary Woods" wrote in message
...
Billy wrote:

Is that the Society for Sensible Explanations, or Seed Saver's Exchange?
The latter; it's a 3-day road trip from here, with visits, sightseeing,
etc. on the way.

Bring back a doggie bag of knowledge in any event.

Suzanne Ashworth is speaking, and I'll get the newest edition of "Seed to
Seed" autographed, and possibly kiss her ring, or approach on my knees or
something. Most-used book on the shelf here.

Enjoy. But I'm not an admirer as it's a book that irritates me. If I need
information of seed saving, I prefer to use "The Seed Savers Handbook" by
Michel and Jude Fanton.

beetroot
 

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

Enjoy. But I'm not an admirer as it's a book that irritates me.

Discuss? I'm always looking for good sources of information.
As I get older, I realize I know less and less.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

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"Gary Woods" wrote in message
...
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

Enjoy. But I'm not an admirer as it's a book that irritates me.

Discuss? I'm always looking for good sources of information.
As I get older, I realize I know less and less.

My irritation probably stems more from the style and author assumption than
anything. When I'm looking for info on seed saving, I've usually in a hurry
and 'Seed to Seed' drones on and on and takes too long to get to the point
and there seems to be an underlying assumption that the reader knows nothing
and needs to be told in with extreme due care because they are a bit dim.
TMWOT, it's more a book for bedtime and/or armchair gardening reading when
one likes to ponder and mull rather than actually do anything.