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... Billy wrote: Farm1 wrote: ... Have you read Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin series? If not, I strongly recommend all 20 and a half books in the series (or is that 21 and half books??). Best author I have ever had the pleasure to read. The New York Times book list seems to like him too. Master and Commander requested from our library (and from Netflix). the movie is not much at all like the books. if you won't read them you are missing the boat (so to speak). ... Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am a stranger in a strange land. for science fiction that does get you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds (almost everything he's written i have enjoyed). It was a combination of 2 of the books which were widely separated in the series. Although I do agree that it isn't a patch on the books, I found that it really helped me in understandign a lot of the nautical terms, the cramped nature of the boats and the noise and the drama of battle (and I did enjoy seeing 'the lesser of two......' being said by Jack). |
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songbird wrote: .... being a techie and interested in AI i've always liked any books that are about how computers/robots try to take over the world or are misunderstood. and first contact stories too. i had a nice collection of these kinds along with the cyberpunk authors, but then sold them all off. Then you will love "Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge". i think i've read it, but i will double check next time i get a chance. songbird |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "Billy" wrote in message news:Wildbilly- "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: I've been low-carbing. Pffff!!! I'm no fan of such a thing. I believe we have a mix of food available to us and that we shoudl partake. The only 'evidence' I've seen relating to low-carb looks quite like quackerie TMWOT. In my case I'm a "Type II" diabetic. If I want to keep my organism, I'm required to keep my blood glucose low. For a close (if somewhat overwhelming) look at low carbing, see "Good Calories, Bad Calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science of Diet and Health" (Vintage) by Gary Taubes http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-...ce/dp/14000334 62/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271102831&sr=1-1 p.194 Anything that raises blood sugar - in particular, the consumption of refined and easily digestible carbohydrates - will increase the generation of oxidants and free radicals; it will increase the rate of oxidative stress and glycation,and the formation and accumulation of advanced glycation end products. This means that anything that raises blood sugar, by the logic of the carbohydrate hypothesis, will lead to more atherosclerosis and heart disease, more vascular disorders, and a pace of accelerated degeneration, even in those of us who never become diabetic. Trying to keep my blood sugar down but last night I cracked, and we had our first pasta primavera (été) of the season. God it was good. Whole wheat pasta, tomatoes, sweet peppers, scallions, basil, garlic, & lemon zest with olive oil as the sauce, accompanied with a side order of sautéed zucchini. The basil, peppers, and zucchini where from the garden. Good stuff, and will only get gooder as the garden progresses. Atta boy! That's good food. Finished the pasta last night with our first harvest of green beans. otherwise. Stuff like how low the poundage of lamb eaten in the US in a year (1LB/person/year which astonished me) Likewise, I've never gotten used to the flavor of lamb. The best I've had came with a strong soy sauce glaze. It covered the flavor. But I'm no gourmet, I don't like the taste of salmon either. I love a good lamb cutlet. TMWOT, it's straight from the culinary Gods. It makes a good steak pale into insignificance IMO. But more lamb for me if you don't like it :-)) That would be about as useful as boobs on a budgerigar TMWOT. Careful, "boobs" hold an exalted and sacred position in my pantheon of desires. You, the proud owner of a pair, my not share my fascination Absolutely not. Useless things once their biological function is done with - need medical tests that cost money or otherwise they can just possibly go cancerous and kill one. Have you read Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin series? If not, I strongly recommend all 20 and a half books in the series (or is that 21 and half books??). Best author I have ever had the pleasure to read. The New York Times book list seems to like him too. Master and Commander requested from our library (and from Netflix). I do warn of a possible serius addiction resulting. I have no interest whatsoever in the British navy, the Napoleonic wars, The war againt the US in about 1812(???) or any of the other subject matter in these books but I was hooked from about p50. Wonderful English prose - pity I can't find someone else who writes as well. joy the cinema, but it is my "Lovey-poo" who enjoys reading the "who-done-it"s. I read little fiction, and often that is junk sci-fi. Good sci-fi is well worth the effort but junk s-f gives me the irrits. I've just read Terry Nation's "The survivors" and although a simple little book, it was a blast from the long distant past and enormously satisfying. (It keeps my eyes moving, but I don't have to think about it much.) When I'm not reading who-why-what-when-and-where documentary kinds of things, I find solace from a series on haiku by R.H. Blyth http://www.ralphmag.org/haikuP.html V. nice. I do like Japanese verse about platns and gardens - can never rember the exact words but wonderful nevertheless. One fave is; 'the morning glory twines around the well bucket, so I lack water'. Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am a stranger in a strange land. All literature is probably strange in it's own way :-)) We picked up our first load of firewood yesterday. Three more loads to go. The brushwood, Though cut for fuel, Is beginning to bud. - Boncho -- - Billy America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash. It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks and the portfolios of the uber-rich. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore /michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/ You put Lloyd Blankfein in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for one six-month term, and all this bullshit would stop, all over Wall Street. That's all it would take. Just once. |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "Billy" wrote in message news:Wildbilly- "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: I've been low-carbing. Pffff!!! I'm no fan of such a thing. I believe we have a mix of food available to us and that we shoudl partake. The only 'evidence' I've seen relating to low-carb looks quite like quackerie TMWOT. In my case I'm a "Type II" diabetic. If I want to keep my organism, I'm required to keep my blood glucose low. You certainly have good reason to know exactly what you are eating with that condition. Most low-carb proponents I've seen on usenet, don't have a similar reason. For a close (if somewhat overwhelming) look at low carbing, see "Good Calories, Bad Calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science of Diet and Health" (Vintage) by Gary Taubes http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-...ce/dp/14000334 62/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271102831&sr=1-1 p.194 Anything that raises blood sugar - in particular, the consumption of refined and easily digestible carbohydrates 'refined and easily digestible' indeed, but what about complex carbohydrates? Surely anyone with Type II would know to stay away from simple carbohydrates and know all about the complex carbohydrates. I note that the snippet you've quoted mentions nothing whatsoever about the latter so I'd hope it appears later in that cite. If I ever end up with Type II diabetes, the first thing I'd do would be to buy myself a decent grain mill. I've recently been toying with the idea because of the wonderful taste that freshly ground wheat gives to my bread - one forgets that wheat has a great taste until you get really good freshly ground flour. Perhaps I should convince myself it'd be a godo preventative investment. - will increase the generation of oxidants and free radicals; it will increase the rate of oxidative stress and glycation,and the formation and accumulation of advanced glycation end products. This means that anything that raises blood sugar, by the logic of the carbohydrate hypothesis, will lead to more atherosclerosis and heart disease, more vascular disorders, and a pace of accelerated degeneration, even in those of us who never become diabetic. All literature is probably strange in it's own way :-)) We picked up our first load of firewood yesterday. Three more loads to go. I hope I don't need any more loads this season - it seems to have been rather cold to date. The brushwood, Though cut for fuel, Is beginning to bud. - Boncho :-)) |
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songbird wrote: Nad R wrote: songbird wrote: ... being a techie and interested in AI i've always liked any books that are about how computers/robots try to take over the world or are misunderstood. and first contact stories too. i had a nice collection of these kinds along with the cyberpunk authors, but then sold them all off. Then you will love "Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge". i think i've read it, but i will double check next time i get a chance. songbird I like this series. Lord Foul's Bane (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, Book 1) 12 books in all or at least 9. Not Sci-fi but fantasy. I have a hard time distinguishing the two labels. "Tell them at Riverstone that there is no help for the land." -- Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden http://honest-food.net/ |
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12 books in all or at least 9. Not Sci-fi but fantasy. I have a hard time distinguishing the two labels. For the most part it goes like this: Science Fiction tends to deal in the future. Fantasy tends to deal in the past. Science Fiction tends to have the hero solving a technical or social problem. Fantasy tends to have the hero on a quest of some kind. I do not read that many books in the fantasy arena. "American Gods by Neil Gaiman" and last book I read from fantasy was book one of three, (2&3) not out yet, was "The Left Hand of God by Paul Hoffman". I tend to avoid authors that have a series of them if know before hand. So I will wait for Mr Hoffman to release the last two novels, however, Hoffman's writing do flow well, it was a good read". -- Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan) |
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songbird wrote: Billy wrote: ... Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am a stranger in a strange land. for science fiction that does get you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds (almost everything he's written i have enjoyed). songbird I have read around twenty of Robert Heilen's books. Stranger in a Strange Land is an excellent read. I have read well over four hundred science fiction books. I read SIASL when I was about 20 and thought it was a hoot. I re-read it a few years ago and found it very dated. The "shocking" parts no longer have any shock and while I understand the parody of American religion much better now it isn't as funny. Heinlein never wrote great prose like (for example) Card. Apparently the original version was somewhat censored by the publisher and Heinlein's estate published the full version a few years ago, possibly in an effort to put some punch into it. David |
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Nad R wrote: songbird wrote: Billy wrote: ... Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am a stranger in a strange land. for science fiction that does get you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds (almost everything he's written i have enjoyed). songbird I have read around twenty of Robert Heilen's books. Stranger in a Strange Land is an excellent read. I have read well over four hundred science fiction books. I read SIASL when I was about 20 and thought it was a hoot. I re-read it a few years ago and found it very dated. The "shocking" parts no longer have any shock and while I understand the parody of American religion much better now it isn't as funny. Heinlein never wrote great prose like (for example) Card. Apparently the original version was somewhat censored by the publisher and Heinlein's estate published the full version a few years ago, possibly in an effort to put some punch into it. David I read and have the original version. I suppose gay marriages in the past was a shocker and people that saw someone with tattoos all over their body may no longer have that shocker value. But the beauty of it, he was way ahead of time. The same with "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" the insight of computers and Artificial Intelligence theories he talks about when people were still using slide rules in those days. An amazing writer. I do remember you stated that you were a founding member of a Heinlein fan club? -- Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan) |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "Billy" wrote in message "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "Billy" wrote in message news:Wildbilly- "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: I've been low-carbing. Pffff!!! I'm no fan of such a thing. I believe we have a mix of food available to us and that we shoudl partake. The only 'evidence' I've seen relating to low-carb looks quite like quackerie TMWOT. In my case I'm a "Type II" diabetic. If I want to keep my organism, I'm required to keep my blood glucose low. You certainly have good reason to know exactly what you are eating with that condition. Most low-carb proponents I've seen on usenet, don't have a similar reason. For a close (if somewhat overwhelming) look at low carbing, see "Good Calories, Bad Calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science of Diet and Health" (Vintage) by Gary Taubes http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-...ce/dp/14000334 62/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271102831&sr=1-1 p.194 Anything that raises blood sugar - in particular, the consumption of refined and easily digestible carbohydrates 'refined and easily digestible' indeed, but what about complex carbohydrates? Surely anyone with Type II would know to stay away from simple carbohydrates and know all about the complex carbohydrates. I note that the snippet you've quoted mentions nothing whatsoever about the latter so I'd hope it appears later in that cite. If I ever end up with Type II diabetes, the first thing I'd do would be to buy myself a decent grain mill. I've recently been toying with the idea because of the wonderful taste that freshly ground wheat gives to my bread - one forgets that wheat has a great taste until you get really good freshly ground flour. Perhaps I should convince myself it'd be a godo preventative investment. Enriched flour is interesting. Some 40 nutrients are removed from the flour, and 5 are added back and it's called enriched. p. 96 White flour's low protein, vitamins, and mineral content made it "less liable than whole meal flour to infestations by beetles and the depredations of rodents", as Sir Stanley Davidson and Reginald Passmore observed in their textbook Human Nutrition and Dietetics (1963). - will increase the generation of oxidants and free radicals; it will increase the rate of oxidative stress and glycation,and the formation and accumulation of advanced glycation end products. This means that anything that raises blood sugar, by the logic of the carbohydrate hypothesis, will lead to more atherosclerosis and heart disease, more vascular disorders, and a pace of accelerated degeneration, even in those of us who never become diabetic. All literature is probably strange in it's own way :-)) We picked up our first load of firewood yesterday. Three more loads to go. I hope I don't need any more loads this season - it seems to have been rather cold to date. It's the Spring here, that eats up most of our firewood. Gotta get my work here done. The grape harvest is coming up soon (with any luck at all) so I need to get my house work finished. The brushwood, Though cut for fuel, Is beginning to bud. - Boncho :-)) -- - Billy America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash. It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks and the portfolios of the uber-rich. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore /michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/ You put Lloyd Blankfein in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for one six-month term, and all this bullshit would stop, all over Wall Street. That's all it would take. Just once. |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote: Nad R wrote: songbird wrote: Billy wrote: ... Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am a stranger in a strange land. for science fiction that does get you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds (almost everything he's written i have enjoyed). songbird I have read around twenty of Robert Heilen's books. Stranger in a Strange Land is an excellent read. I have read well over four hundred science fiction books. I read SIASL when I was about 20 and thought it was a hoot. I re-read it a few years ago and found it very dated. The "shocking" parts no longer have any shock and while I understand the parody of American religion much better now it isn't as funny. Heinlein never wrote great prose like (for example) Card. Apparently the original version was somewhat censored by the publisher and Heinlein's estate published the full version a few years ago, possibly in an effort to put some punch into it. David I read and have the original version. I suppose gay marriages in the past was a shocker and people that saw someone with tattoos all over their body may no longer have that shocker value. But the beauty of it, he was way ahead of time. The same with "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" the insight of computers and Artificial Intelligence theories he talks about when people were still using slide rules in those days. An amazing writer. I do remember you stated that you were a founding member of a Heinlein fan club? No D |
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I like this series. Lord Foul's Bane (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, Book I know I've read at least one of them, but I'm darned if I can remember anythign about them/it. Were they vaguely Medieval? |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: If I ever end up with Type II diabetes, the first thing I'd do would be to buy myself a decent grain mill. I've recently been toying with the idea because of the wonderful taste that freshly ground wheat gives to my bread - one forgets that wheat has a great taste until you get really good freshly ground flour. Perhaps I should convince myself it'd be a godo preventative investment. Enriched flour is interesting. Some 40 nutrients are removed from the flour, and 5 are added back and it's called enriched. p. 96 White flour's low protein, vitamins, and mineral content made it "less liable than whole meal flour to infestations by beetles and the depredations of rodents", as Sir Stanley Davidson and Reginald Passmore observed in their textbook Human Nutrition and Dietetics (1963). If bugs won't eat it, nor should humans :-)) It's the Spring here, that eats up most of our firewood. Why is that? |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "Bill who putters" wrote in message I like this series. Lord Foul's Bane (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, Book I know I've read at least one of them, but I'm darned if I can remember anythign about them/it. Were they vaguely Medieval? Present day alternate universe. -- Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden http://honest-food.net/ |
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "Billy" wrote in message news:Wildbilly- "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: If I ever end up with Type II diabetes, the first thing I'd do would be to buy myself a decent grain mill. I've recently been toying with the idea because of the wonderful taste that freshly ground wheat gives to my bread - one forgets that wheat has a great taste until you get really good freshly ground flour. Perhaps I should convince myself it'd be a godo preventative investment. Enriched flour is interesting. Some 40 nutrients are removed from the flour, and 5 are added back and it's called enriched. p. 96 White flour's low protein, vitamins, and mineral content made it "less liable than whole meal flour to infestations by beetles and the depredations of rodents", as Sir Stanley Davidson and Reginald Passmore observed in their textbook Human Nutrition and Dietetics (1963). If bugs won't eat it, nor should humans :-)) It's the Spring here, that eats up most of our firewood. Why is that? Brain fart. Most of our wood gets burned Jan. thru March, which is technically winter, but this year we were still building winter fires in April and May. We have some 30 - 40 trees, better to hold the hillside in one place, and all fallen limbs, or overlooked wood from previous tree trimmings went into the stove before the weather improved. Most of what we burn comes from a company that makes gun stocks out of walnut. Usually the trash that our trees throw is used as kindling. -- - Billy America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash. It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks and the portfolios of the uber-rich. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore /michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/ You put Lloyd Blankfein in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for one six-month term, and all this bullshit would stop, all over Wall Street. That's all it would take. Just once. |
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