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I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?

New veg patch
 

duggenole wrote:
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice
what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?

That is a very general question. How about a little more information.
Start by telling us what you climate is like and what kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture for you.

David

Thanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it than I thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

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duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice
what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what
kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and
borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture
for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it
than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and climate
largely determine what you can grow without too much effort. To start with
you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you can alter soil and
modify your microclimate but it's much easier if you don't have to. Head
for the library.

D

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In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice
what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what
kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and
borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture
for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it
than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and climate
largely determine what you can grow without too much effort. To start with
you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you can alter soil and
modify your microclimate but it's much easier if you don't have to. Head
for the library.

D

Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you can't
grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little you could
grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better texture than store
bought.

I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree of
effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent, with
various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the soil.
Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of enclosures
from row covers to greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot will
require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."

--
Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running

New veg patch
 

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice
what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what
kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and
borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture
for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it
than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and
climate largely determine what you can grow without too much effort.
To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you
can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much easier if
you don't have to. Head for the library.

D

Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you can't
grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little you
could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better texture
than store bought.


The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very hot
seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to be picky but
to generalise that there are very few universal generalisations in
gardening.

I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree
of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent,
with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the
soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of
enclosures from row covers to greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot
will require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."

Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it is:

Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn?

A. To be a good observer.

D

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In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice
what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what
kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and
borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture
for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it
than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and
climate largely determine what you can grow without too much effort.
To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you
can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much easier if
you don't have to. Head for the library.

D

Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you can't
grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little you
could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better texture
than store bought.


The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very hot
seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to be picky but
to generalise that there are very few universal generalisations in
gardening. . . . . ?

You were generalizing about generalizations?

I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a Pom. I
wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will) would be much of
a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from the Rhone Glacier,
where there aren't many gardeners).


I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree
of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent,
with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the
soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of
enclosures from row covers to greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot
will require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."

Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it is:

Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn?

A. To be a good observer.
Gotta be there to observe.

D

How much coffee you drinking these days?

--
Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running

New veg patch
 

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any
advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and
what kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and
borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader
picture for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to
it than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and
climate largely determine what you can grow without too much
effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort.
Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much
easier if you don't have to. Head for the library.

D

Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you
can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little
you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better
texture than store bought.


The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very
hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to
be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal
generalisations in gardening. . . . . ?

You were generalizing about generalizations?

I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a Pom. I
wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will) would be much
of a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from the Rhone Glacier,
where there aren't many gardeners).


I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree
of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent,
with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the
soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of
enclosures from row covers to greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot
will require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."

Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it
is:

Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn?

A. To be a good observer.
Gotta be there to observe.

D

How much coffee you drinking these days?

Almost none. I thought I was amplifying and reinforcing what you said. Do
we have a problem?

D

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Billy wrote:
....
Gotta be there to observe.

not if you can afford many cameras, microphones
and know how to do digital filtering.

i'm still hoping for an air compressor and
a nice remote aiming tripod that can shoot
peas at the buggers. i kinda like the idea
of growing my own ammo.


songbird

New veg patch
 

In article ,
songbird wrote:

Billy wrote:
...
Gotta be there to observe.

not if you can afford many cameras, microphones
and know how to do digital filtering.

The Ney York Police Dept. is taking up gardening?
What's the catch?


i'm still hoping for an air compressor and
a nice remote aiming tripod that can shoot
peas at the buggers. i kinda like the idea
of growing my own ammo.

What buggers are we talking about?



songbird

--
Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running

New veg patch
 

In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any
advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and
what kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and
borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader
picture for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to
it than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and
climate largely determine what you can grow without too much
effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort.
Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much
easier if you don't have to. Head for the library.

D

Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you
can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little
you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better
texture than store bought.


The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very
hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to
be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal
generalisations in gardening. . . . . ?

You were generalizing about generalizations?

I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a Pom. I
wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will) would be much
of a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from the Rhone Glacier,
where there aren't many gardeners).


I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree
of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent,
with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the
soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of
enclosures from row covers to greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot
will require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."

Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it
is:

Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn?

A. To be a good observer.
Gotta be there to observe.

D

How much coffee you drinking these days?

Almost none. I thought I was amplifying and reinforcing what you said. Do
we have a problem?

D

Don't get me started ;O)

--
Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running

New veg patch
 

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any
advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and
what kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library
and borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader
picture for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to
it than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and
climate largely determine what you can grow without too much
effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort.
Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's
much easier if you don't have to. Head for the library.

D

Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you
can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is
little you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and
better texture than store bought.


The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in
very hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is
not to be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal
generalisations in gardening. . . . . ?

You were generalizing about generalizations?

I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a
Pom. I wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will)
would be much of a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from
the Rhone Glacier, where there aren't many gardeners).


I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying
degree of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to
some extent, with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic
mulches will cool the soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil.
Then you have a choice of enclosures from row covers to
greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots.
Pot will require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."

Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it
is:

Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn?

A. To be a good observer.
Gotta be there to observe.

D

How much coffee you drinking these days?

Almost none. I thought I was amplifying and reinforcing what you
said. Do we have a problem?

D

Don't get me started ;O)

Don't try being subtle with me I know you are an FBI informer.

D

New veg patch
 

In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any
advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and
what kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library
and borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader
picture for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to
it than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and
climate largely determine what you can grow without too much
effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort.
Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's
much easier if you don't have to. Head for the library.

D

Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you
can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is
little you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and
better texture than store bought.


The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in
very hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is
not to be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal
generalisations in gardening. . . . . ?

You were generalizing about generalizations?

I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a
Pom. I wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will)
would be much of a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from
the Rhone Glacier, where there aren't many gardeners).


I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying
degree of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to
some extent, with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic
mulches will cool the soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil.
Then you have a choice of enclosures from row covers to
greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots.
Pot will require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."

Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it
is:

Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn?

A. To be a good observer.
Gotta be there to observe.

D

How much coffee you drinking these days?

Almost none. I thought I was amplifying and reinforcing what you
said. Do we have a problem?

D

Don't get me started ;O)

Don't try being subtle with me I know you are an FBI informer.

D

Only in my spare time.

--
Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running

New veg patch
 

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:

Don't get me started ;O)

Don't try being subtle with me I know you are an FBI informer.

D

Only in my spare time.

:-)) Do you have access to any of those juicy files kept by J Edgar Hoover?

New veg patch
 

In article , "Farm1"
wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:

Don't get me started ;O)

Don't try being subtle with me I know you are an FBI informer.

D

Only in my spare time.

:-)) Do you have access to any of those juicy files kept by J Edgar Hoover?

Hang on. With any luck Julian will be posting those KGB files shortly.
Uh, I mean FBI files ;O)

--
Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running

It's best to start small with your first garden. Many gardeners get a little too excited at the beginning of the season and plant more than they need and end up wasting food and feeling overwhelmed by their garden. Keep in mind that vegetables such as tomatoes, peppers, and squash keep providing throughout the season, so you may not need many plants to serve your needs. Other vegetables, such as carrots, radishes, and corn, produce only once. You may need to plant more of these.

Once you know what you want to plant, you can figure out how much space your garden will need. You don't need a large space to begin a vegetable gardening. Next step choosing the place for your vegetable garden. Most vegetables need at least 6-8 hours of direct sun. If they don't get enough light, they won't bear as much and they'll be more susceptible to attack from insects or diseases.

Here's a hint: If you don't have a spot in full sun, you can still grow many leafy vegetables such as lettuce and spinach. And if you're in a hot-summer climate, cool-season varieties such as peas may do better in part shade.

Plenty of water. Because most vegetables aren't very drought tolerant, you'll need to give them a drink during dry spells. The closer your garden is to a source of water, the easier it will be for you.

Good soil. As with any kind of garden, success usually starts with the soil. Most vegetables do best in moist, well-drained soil that's rich in organic matter (such as compost or peat moss). Many gardeners like to have their vegetable gardens close to the house. This makes it easier to harvest fresh produce while you're cooking. It can also be handy to keep a few favorite potted vegetables next to your grill.

These are the main things to consider before you start a vegetable garden.

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When I first started growing veg it was on an allotment, I used to follow the lead from the old well seasoned allotmenteers who were only too pleased to help and advise and give away any spare plants or cuttings.

I used to put in my potatoes and onions after their lead.

I would yes invest in some books or head to the library....but if you want to grow easy thing, lettuce, onions, spring onions, herbs, potatoes and certain cabbages are easy....

I wouldn't recommend sweetcorn as my did absolutely nothing here in the UK.
peas, green beans, pumpkins,squashes, peppers, tomatoes and strawberries have been hit n miss this year too! too wet, cold and not enough sun to ripen :(

Feel free to ask me anything, I'm here to help....I am not a really experienced veg gardener but I have my own allotment etc x