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I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?

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duggenole wrote:
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice
what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?


That is a very general question. How about a little more information.
Start by telling us what you climate is like and what kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture for you.

David

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duggenole wrote:
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice
what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?


That is a very general question. How about a little more information.
Start by telling us what you climate is like and what kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture for you.

David
Thanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it than I thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.
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duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice
what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what
kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and
borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture
for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it
than I

thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.


If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and climate
largely determine what you can grow without too much effort. To start with
you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you can alter soil and
modify your microclimate but it's much easier if you don't have to. Head
for the library.

D

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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice
what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what
kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and
borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture
for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it
than I

thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.


If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and climate
largely determine what you can grow without too much effort. To start with
you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you can alter soil and
modify your microclimate but it's much easier if you don't have to. Head
for the library.

D


Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you can't
grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little you could
grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better texture than store
bought.

I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree of
effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent, with
various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the soil.
Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of enclosures
from row covers to greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot will
require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
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Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice
what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what
kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and
borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture
for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it
than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.


If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and
climate largely determine what you can grow without too much effort.
To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you
can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much easier if
you don't have to. Head for the library.

D


Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you can't
grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little you
could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better texture
than store bought.


The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very hot
seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to be picky but
to generalise that there are very few universal generalisations in
gardening.

I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree
of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent,
with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the
soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of
enclosures from row covers to greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot
will require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."


Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it is:

Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn?

A. To be a good observer.

D

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In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any advice
what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and what
kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and
borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader picture
for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to it
than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and
climate largely determine what you can grow without too much effort.
To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort. Sure you
can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much easier if
you don't have to. Head for the library.

D


Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you can't
grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little you
could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better texture
than store bought.


The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very hot
seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to be picky but
to generalise that there are very few universal generalisations in
gardening. . . . . ?


You were generalizing about generalizations?

I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a Pom. I
wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will) would be much of
a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from the Rhone Glacier,
where there aren't many gardeners).


I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree
of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent,
with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the
soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of
enclosures from row covers to greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot
will require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."


Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it is:

Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn?

A. To be a good observer.

Gotta be there to observe.

D


How much coffee you drinking these days?

--
Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
or
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Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any
advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and
what kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and
borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader
picture for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to
it than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and
climate largely determine what you can grow without too much
effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort.
Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much
easier if you don't have to. Head for the library.

D

Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you
can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little
you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better
texture than store bought.


The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very
hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to
be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal
generalisations in gardening. . . . . ?


You were generalizing about generalizations?

I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a Pom. I
wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will) would be much
of a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from the Rhone Glacier,
where there aren't many gardeners).


I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree
of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent,
with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the
soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of
enclosures from row covers to greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot
will require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."


Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it
is:

Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn?

A. To be a good observer.

Gotta be there to observe.

D


How much coffee you drinking these days?


Almost none. I thought I was amplifying and reinforcing what you said. Do
we have a problem?

D

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Billy wrote:
....
Gotta be there to observe.


not if you can afford many cameras, microphones
and know how to do digital filtering.

i'm still hoping for an air compressor and
a nice remote aiming tripod that can shoot
peas at the buggers. i kinda like the idea
of growing my own ammo.


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songbird wrote:

Billy wrote:
...
Gotta be there to observe.


not if you can afford many cameras, microphones
and know how to do digital filtering.


The Ney York Police Dept. is taking up gardening?
What's the catch?


i'm still hoping for an air compressor and
a nice remote aiming tripod that can shoot
peas at the buggers. i kinda like the idea
of growing my own ammo.


What buggers are we talking about?



songbird


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In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any
advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and
what kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library and
borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader
picture for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to
it than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and
climate largely determine what you can grow without too much
effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort.
Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's much
easier if you don't have to. Head for the library.

D

Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you
can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is little
you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and better
texture than store bought.


The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in very
hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is not to
be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal
generalisations in gardening. . . . . ?


You were generalizing about generalizations?

I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a Pom. I
wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will) would be much
of a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from the Rhone Glacier,
where there aren't many gardeners).


I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying degree
of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to some extent,
with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic mulches will cool the
soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil. Then you have a choice of
enclosures from row covers to greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots. Pot
will require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."

Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it
is:

Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn?

A. To be a good observer.

Gotta be there to observe.

D


How much coffee you drinking these days?


Almost none. I thought I was amplifying and reinforcing what you said. Do
we have a problem?

D


Don't get me started ;O)

--
Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
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Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any
advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and
what kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library
and borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader
picture for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to
it than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and
climate largely determine what you can grow without too much
effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort.
Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's
much easier if you don't have to. Head for the library.

D

Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you
can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is
little you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and
better texture than store bought.


The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in
very hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is
not to be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal
generalisations in gardening. . . . . ?

You were generalizing about generalizations?

I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a
Pom. I wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will)
would be much of a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from
the Rhone Glacier, where there aren't many gardeners).


I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying
degree of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to
some extent, with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic
mulches will cool the soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil.
Then you have a choice of enclosures from row covers to
greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots.
Pot will require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."

Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it
is:

Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn?

A. To be a good observer.
Gotta be there to observe.

D

How much coffee you drinking these days?


Almost none. I thought I was amplifying and reinforcing what you
said. Do we have a problem?

D


Don't get me started ;O)


Don't try being subtle with me I know you are an FBI informer.

D
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

duggenole wrote:
'David Hare-Scott[_2_ Wrote:
;966864']duggenole wrote:-
I'm a total novice and I'm thinking of growing some veg. Any
advice what I should start with. What's easy to grow etc?-

That is a very general question. How about a little more
information. Start by telling us what you climate is like and
what kind of plot you have,
its aspect and soil. Maybe you could go to the local library
and borrow a
book or two on growing your own veges to paint the broader
picture for you.

DavidThanks for the reply. It looks like there is a lot more to
it than I
thought. I didn't know there was different soil types.

If you don't want it to be hit and miss there is. Your soil and
climate largely determine what you can grow without too much
effort. To start with you don't want to make it a lot of effort.
Sure you can alter soil and modify your microclimate but it's
much easier if you don't have to. Head for the library.

D

Easy to grow would be lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach. If you
can't grow lettuces, Swiss chard, and spinach, then there is
little you could grow. Home grown lettuce has more flavor, and
better texture than store bought.


The OP is likely from Ol Blighty where it isn't an issue but in
very hot seasons leafy veges will not give you much joy. This is
not to be picky but to generalise that there are very few universal
generalisations in gardening. . . . . ?

You were generalizing about generalizations?

I'm not blind you know. It seemed likely that "duggenhole" is a
Pom. I wouldn't think that growing lettuce (salad if you will)
would be much of a problem north of the Mediterranean (apart from
the Rhone Glacier, where there aren't many gardeners).


I agree with everything David has written, but with a varying
degree of effort, you can modify your growing environment, to
some extent, with various mulches, and enclosures. Organic
mulches will cool the soil. Plastic mulches will war the soil.
Then you have a choice of enclosures from row covers to
greenhouses.

You might also consider raised beds, or simply growing in pots.
Pot will require watering more often.

In any case, "The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow."

Speaking of generalisations that's a goodun. Another way to say it
is:

Q. What is the best skill a gardener can learn?

A. To be a good observer.
Gotta be there to observe.

D

How much coffee you drinking these days?

Almost none. I thought I was amplifying and reinforcing what you
said. Do we have a problem?

D


Don't get me started ;O)


Don't try being subtle with me I know you are an FBI informer.

D


Only in my spare time.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
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Don't get me started ;O)


Don't try being subtle with me I know you are an FBI informer.

D


Only in my spare time.


:-)) Do you have access to any of those juicy files kept by J Edgar Hoover?


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Don't get me started ;O)

Don't try being subtle with me I know you are an FBI informer.

D


Only in my spare time.


:-)) Do you have access to any of those juicy files kept by J Edgar Hoover?


Hang on. With any luck Julian will be posting those KGB files shortly.
Uh, I mean FBI files ;O)

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