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24-09-2012, 11:46 AM
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Scary Study - Roundup
Farm1 wrote:
"phorbin" wrote in message In article , times says... As a farmer, I know what RoundUp does. I have sprayed quack grass with it and it works well at the recommended rate. Not bad on Canadian thistle when applied when they are in the rosette stage in August or early September. When used for its intended purposes it is a great product. Other activities of Monsanto with breeding of RR resistant varieties, I question. The application, by farmers, of Roundup to weeds is not the same thing as a 'lifetime feeding study'. Though a lifetime feeding study should the study be replicable will probably (after Monsanto has pretended that the studies are flawed, hammered it with PR droppings and dragged its feet for a decade) affect the application by farmers of Roundup. Indeed. But then that would be the whole point behind the conduct of such a study. If you want to read some really scary stuff about the politicising and abuse of science and studies have a look at "The republican war on science" or better still, because it is wider in scope and not directed so much at one party "The merchants of doubt". My old mate Fred Singer appears in a star-studded lineup. These are both USA-centred but especially in the latter the authors show how this kind of corruption has consequences that go around the world. We have seen some attempts to import some of this bilge (as if we don't have enough home grown idiots) where Brendan Nelson incautiously started sucking on the teat of Intelligent Design (AKA Creationism). D |
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25-09-2012, 03:57 AM
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Scary Study - Roundup
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
... Farm1 wrote: "phorbin" wrote in message In article , times says... As a farmer, I know what RoundUp does. I have sprayed quack grass with it and it works well at the recommended rate. Not bad on Canadian thistle when applied when they are in the rosette stage in August or early September. When used for its intended purposes it is a great product. Other activities of Monsanto with breeding of RR resistant varieties, I question. The application, by farmers, of Roundup to weeds is not the same thing as a 'lifetime feeding study'. Though a lifetime feeding study should the study be replicable will probably (after Monsanto has pretended that the studies are flawed, hammered it with PR droppings and dragged its feet for a decade) affect the application by farmers of Roundup. Indeed. But then that would be the whole point behind the conduct of such a study. If you want to read some really scary stuff about the politicising and abuse of science and studies have a look at "The republican war on science" or better still, because it is wider in scope and not directed so much at one party "The merchants of doubt". My old mate Fred Singer appears in a star-studded lineup. These are both USA-centred but especially in the latter the authors show how this kind of corruption has consequences that go around the world. Thanks David, I will, but no doubt will end up totally depressed at the end of my reaidng. We have seen some attempts to import some of this bilge (as if we don't have enough home grown idiots) where Brendan Nelson incautiously started sucking on the teat of Intelligent Design (AKA Creationism). I'd forgotten about that! Yes, very disturbing. Mind you, I find Abbott even far more disturbing than a whole boat load and any number of other conservative politicans put together. |
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24-09-2012, 05:38 PM
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Scary Study - Roundup
In article , times says...
"phorbin" wrote in message In article , times says... As a farmer, I know what RoundUp does. I have sprayed quack grass with it and it works well at the recommended rate. Not bad on Canadian thistle when applied when they are in the rosette stage in August or early September. When used for its intended purposes it is a great product. Other activities of Monsanto with breeding of RR resistant varieties, I question. The application, by farmers, of Roundup to weeds is not the same thing as a 'lifetime feeding study'. Though a lifetime feeding study should the study be replicable will probably (after Monsanto has pretended that the studies are flawed, hammered it with PR droppings and dragged its feet for a decade) affect the application by farmers of Roundup. Indeed. But then that would be the whole point behind the conduct of such a study. Hi Farm1, How's the weather in upside-down land? Given the trend and sensibility of my Canadian countryman's comments, the thought I presented seemed a logical enough addition to the thread. |
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25-09-2012, 12:26 AM
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Scary Study - Roundup
phorbin wrote:
In article , times says... "phorbin" wrote in message In article , times says... As a farmer, I know what RoundUp does. I have sprayed quack grass with it and it works well at the recommended rate. Not bad on Canadian thistle when applied when they are in the rosette stage in August or early September. When used for its intended purposes it is a great product. Other activities of Monsanto with breeding of RR resistant varieties, I question. The application, by farmers, of Roundup to weeds is not the same thing as a 'lifetime feeding study'. Though a lifetime feeding study should the study be replicable will probably (after Monsanto has pretended that the studies are flawed, hammered it with PR droppings and dragged its feet for a decade) affect the application by farmers of Roundup. Indeed. But then that would be the whole point behind the conduct of such a study. Hi Farm1, How's the weather in upside-down land? Trending dry all over the east but not yet a serious problem, some of North NSW and south QLD are declared "marginal" though the models are predicting wetter than median in those areas next quarter. The BOM is equivocating whether we will have an El Nino summer. I have had one good shower of rain in 9 weeks, due to the wonders of the Big Subterranean Sponge the pasture has spring growth but if there is no rain soon that will brown off pretty soon. David |
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25-09-2012, 04:05 AM
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Scary Study - Roundup
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
... phorbin wrote: In article , times says... "phorbin" wrote in message In article , times says... As a farmer, I know what RoundUp does. I have sprayed quack grass with it and it works well at the recommended rate. Not bad on Canadian thistle when applied when they are in the rosette stage in August or early September. When used for its intended purposes it is a great product. Other activities of Monsanto with breeding of RR resistant varieties, I question. The application, by farmers, of Roundup to weeds is not the same thing as a 'lifetime feeding study'. Though a lifetime feeding study should the study be replicable will probably (after Monsanto has pretended that the studies are flawed, hammered it with PR droppings and dragged its feet for a decade) affect the application by farmers of Roundup. Indeed. But then that would be the whole point behind the conduct of such a study. Hi Farm1, How's the weather in upside-down land? Trending dry all over the east but not yet a serious problem, some of North NSW and south QLD are declared "marginal" though the models are predicting wetter than median in those areas next quarter. The BOM is equivocating whether we will have an El Nino summer. I have had one good shower of rain in 9 weeks, due to the wonders of the Big Subterranean Sponge the pasture has spring growth but if there is no rain soon that will brown off pretty soon. I had to put a sprinkler on yesterday because one of my veggie beds was gagging for a drink. |
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25-09-2012, 04:04 AM
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Scary Study - Roundup
"phorbin" wrote in message
... In article , times says... "phorbin" wrote in message In article , times says... As a farmer, I know what RoundUp does. I have sprayed quack grass with it and it works well at the recommended rate. Not bad on Canadian thistle when applied when they are in the rosette stage in August or early September. When used for its intended purposes it is a great product. Other activities of Monsanto with breeding of RR resistant varieties, I question. The application, by farmers, of Roundup to weeds is not the same thing as a 'lifetime feeding study'. Though a lifetime feeding study should the study be replicable will probably (after Monsanto has pretended that the studies are flawed, hammered it with PR droppings and dragged its feet for a decade) affect the application by farmers of Roundup. Indeed. But then that would be the whole point behind the conduct of such a study. Hi Farm1, How's the weather in upside-down land? You're not familiar with McArthurs Universal Corrective Map of the World? Given the trend and sensibility of my Canadian countryman's comments, the thought I presented seemed a logical enough addition to the thread. It was indeed logical, which is why I agreed with you. |
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25-09-2012, 07:57 PM
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