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T[_4_] 20-05-2016 05:11 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
Hi All,

I came across a store bought honey dew / cantaloupe cross that
was quite tasty. How would I process the seeds if I want
to try growing one or two? They are sitting inside the melon
in water and not sprouting, so I was wondering?

Wonder if the seeds would give me the same melon too.

Many thanks,
-T

Interesting. The store called it a "orange meat melon".
I am wondering is Honeylope or Canadew would be a better
name. On second thought, that second candidate might be
considered rude in some circles. :-D

George Shirley[_3_] 20-05-2016 09:19 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 5/20/2016 11:11 AM, T wrote:
Hi All,

I came across a store bought honey dew / cantaloupe cross that
was quite tasty. How would I process the seeds if I want
to try growing one or two? They are sitting inside the melon
in water and not sprouting, so I was wondering?

Wonder if the seeds would give me the same melon too.

Many thanks,
-T

Interesting. The store called it a "orange meat melon".
I am wondering is Honeylope or Canadew would be a better
name. On second thought, that second candidate might be
considered rude in some circles. :-D

You could always try it, it might come out something terrible or
something good.

I've done a few of those things and mostly they come out as something
terrible. What the heck, go for it.

T[_4_] 20-05-2016 10:07 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 05/20/2016 01:19 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 5/20/2016 11:11 AM, T wrote:
Hi All,

I came across a store bought honey dew / cantaloupe cross that
was quite tasty. How would I process the seeds if I want
to try growing one or two? They are sitting inside the melon
in water and not sprouting, so I was wondering?

Wonder if the seeds would give me the same melon too.

Many thanks,
-T

Interesting. The store called it a "orange meat melon".
I am wondering is Honeylope or Canadew would be a better
name. On second thought, that second candidate might be
considered rude in some circles. :-D

You could always try it, it might come out something terrible or
something good.

I've done a few of those things and mostly they come out as something
terrible. What the heck, go for it.


Do I dry them out or something first?

George Shirley[_3_] 21-05-2016 12:34 AM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 5/20/2016 4:07 PM, T wrote:
On 05/20/2016 01:19 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 5/20/2016 11:11 AM, T wrote:
Hi All,

I came across a store bought honey dew / cantaloupe cross that
was quite tasty. How would I process the seeds if I want
to try growing one or two? They are sitting inside the melon
in water and not sprouting, so I was wondering?

Wonder if the seeds would give me the same melon too.

Many thanks,
-T

Interesting. The store called it a "orange meat melon".
I am wondering is Honeylope or Canadew would be a better
name. On second thought, that second candidate might be
considered rude in some circles. :-D

You could always try it, it might come out something terrible or
something good.

I've done a few of those things and mostly they come out as something
terrible. What the heck, go for it.


Do I dry them out or something first?

We always put them between two paper towels and let them dry. Once you
plant them you will need to water them frequently too.

Nowadays we just eat seedless watermelon and generally toast and eat the
cantaloupe seeds while watching mindless television shows.

T[_4_] 21-05-2016 12:52 AM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 05/20/2016 04:34 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 5/20/2016 4:07 PM, T wrote:
On 05/20/2016 01:19 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 5/20/2016 11:11 AM, T wrote:
Hi All,

I came across a store bought honey dew / cantaloupe cross that
was quite tasty. How would I process the seeds if I want
to try growing one or two? They are sitting inside the melon
in water and not sprouting, so I was wondering?

Wonder if the seeds would give me the same melon too.

Many thanks,
-T

Interesting. The store called it a "orange meat melon".
I am wondering is Honeylope or Canadew would be a better
name. On second thought, that second candidate might be
considered rude in some circles. :-D
You could always try it, it might come out something terrible or
something good.

I've done a few of those things and mostly they come out as something
terrible. What the heck, go for it.


Do I dry them out or something first?

We always put them between two paper towels and let them dry. Once you
plant them you will need to water them frequently too.

Nowadays we just eat seedless watermelon and generally toast and eat the
cantaloupe seeds while watching mindless television shows.


Thank you!

T[_4_] 21-05-2016 08:23 AM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 05/20/2016 04:34 PM, George Shirley wrote:
generally toast and eat the cantaloupe seeds


Shell and all?

I eat Pumpkin seeds (they are really squash seeds) all
the time, but they are hulled.

George Shirley[_3_] 21-05-2016 02:56 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 5/21/2016 2:23 AM, T wrote:
On 05/20/2016 04:34 PM, George Shirley wrote:
generally toast and eat the cantaloupe seeds


Shell and all?

I eat Pumpkin seeds (they are really squash seeds) all
the time, but they are hulled.

No, we spit out the shell. Just crack them between your teeth and ptoo
the shell, chew the innards and do it again.

A beautiful Saturday morning here in Harris Cty, TX, what a change from
yesterday's intermittent rain.

I'm trouble shooting a fifteen year old computer and have come to the
conclusion that that sucker is truly dead. At least I got all the good
stuff off of it. Nothing lasts forever I reckon.

T[_4_] 22-05-2016 12:24 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 05/21/2016 06:56 AM, George Shirley wrote:
On 5/21/2016 2:23 AM, T wrote:
On 05/20/2016 04:34 PM, George Shirley wrote:
generally toast and eat the cantaloupe seeds


Shell and all?

I eat Pumpkin seeds (they are really squash seeds) all
the time, but they are hulled.

No, we spit out the shell. Just crack them between your teeth and ptoo
the shell, chew the innards and do it again.


Just like a pumpkin seed then.


A beautiful Saturday morning here in Harris Cty, TX, what a change from
yesterday's intermittent rain.

I'm trouble shooting a fifteen year old computer and have come to the
conclusion that that sucker is truly dead. At least I got all the good
stuff off of it. Nothing lasts forever I reckon.


I do that kind of stuff for a living. Ping me if you need any advice.
I fixed the probable last DOS computer in the county last December.

Thank you for helping me with all the gardening stuff!
-T

Boron Elgar[_2_] 23-05-2016 03:56 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On Fri, 20 May 2016 09:11:43 -0700, T wrote:

Hi All,

I came across a store bought honey dew / cantaloupe cross that
was quite tasty. How would I process the seeds if I want
to try growing one or two? They are sitting inside the melon
in water and not sprouting, so I was wondering?

Wonder if the seeds would give me the same melon too.

Many thanks,
-T

Interesting. The store called it a "orange meat melon".
I am wondering is Honeylope or Canadew would be a better
name. On second thought, that second candidate might be
considered rude in some circles. :-D



Although I have no experience with any melon crosses, I do know the
seeds from the typical cantaloupes we get here in NJ (NOT muskmelons),
germinate rather easily. I know this because when I took the top off
the compost bin yesterday, the top layer was covered in cantaloupe
seedlings.

That said, any fruiting that occurs will be one big crap shoot. Still,
if you have the space, garden experiments are always fun.

T[_4_] 24-05-2016 03:22 AM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 05/23/2016 07:56 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2016 09:11:43 -0700, T wrote:

Hi All,

I came across a store bought honey dew / cantaloupe cross that
was quite tasty. How would I process the seeds if I want
to try growing one or two? They are sitting inside the melon
in water and not sprouting, so I was wondering?

Wonder if the seeds would give me the same melon too.

Many thanks,
-T

Interesting. The store called it a "orange meat melon".
I am wondering is Honeylope or Canadew would be a better
name. On second thought, that second candidate might be
considered rude in some circles. :-D



Although I have no experience with any melon crosses, I do know the
seeds from the typical cantaloupes we get here in NJ (NOT muskmelons),
germinate rather easily. I know this because when I took the top off
the compost bin yesterday, the top layer was covered in cantaloupe
seedlings.

That said, any fruiting that occurs will be one big crap shoot. Still,
if you have the space, garden experiments are always fun.


I will get another one from the store this week and and give it a try!

George Shirley[_3_] 24-05-2016 02:58 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 5/23/2016 9:22 PM, T wrote:
On 05/23/2016 07:56 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2016 09:11:43 -0700, T wrote:

Hi All,

I came across a store bought honey dew / cantaloupe cross that
was quite tasty. How would I process the seeds if I want
to try growing one or two? They are sitting inside the melon
in water and not sprouting, so I was wondering?

Wonder if the seeds would give me the same melon too.

Many thanks,
-T

Interesting. The store called it a "orange meat melon".
I am wondering is Honeylope or Canadew would be a better
name. On second thought, that second candidate might be
considered rude in some circles. :-D



Although I have no experience with any melon crosses, I do know the
seeds from the typical cantaloupes we get here in NJ (NOT muskmelons),
germinate rather easily. I know this because when I took the top off
the compost bin yesterday, the top layer was covered in cantaloupe
seedlings.

That said, any fruiting that occurs will be one big crap shoot. Still,
if you have the space, garden experiments are always fun.


I will get another one from the store this week and and give it a try!

Two years ago we pot holed the carcass of a large cantaloupe in one of
our fence line beds. A month later it was covered with vines and we
harvested three cantaloupes. Somewhat smaller than the original but,
IMHO, much tastier than the original. Alas, the seeds from those were
planted but did not grow, might have been the heat that year.

That crap shoot paid off but many don't. I'm looking for some beef
seeds. G

Boron Elgar 25-05-2016 02:07 AM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On Tue, 24 May 2016 08:58:27 -0500, George Shirley
wrote:



That crap shoot paid off but many don't. I'm looking for some beef
seeds. G



You and me, both.

Ecnerwal 25-05-2016 12:13 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
In article ,
George Shirley wrote:

I'm looking for some beef seeds. G


Unless you are one of the unfortunate folks with Celiac, grow wheat,
make seitan. I still eat meat, but a well-seasoned hunk of "wheat meat"
is not something I'm averse to - I've had knockwurst that were identical
in flavor and texture to the real thing. Not quite going to get there
for a plain grilled steak, but any seasoned dish it can be awfully
close, and beats the heck out of tofu 10 times out of 10.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by
Please don't feed the trolls. Killfile and ignore them so they will go away.

George Shirley[_3_] 25-05-2016 02:51 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 5/25/2016 6:13 AM, Ecnerwal wrote:
In article ,
George Shirley wrote:

I'm looking for some beef seeds. G


Unless you are one of the unfortunate folks with Celiac, grow wheat,
make seitan. I still eat meat, but a well-seasoned hunk of "wheat meat"
is not something I'm averse to - I've had knockwurst that were identical
in flavor and texture to the real thing. Not quite going to get there
for a plain grilled steak, but any seasoned dish it can be awfully
close, and beats the heck out of tofu 10 times out of 10.

I eat vegetables, make my own bread, mostly whole wheat or multiple
grains. I still eat meat, mostly two or three times a week. I've never
had faux meat though.

Multiple heart attacks, coronary bypass, diabetes, multiple strokes,
etc. I eat what I want, I will soon be 77 years old and, like Frank
Sinatra sings, I'm going to do it my way. G

I was eating healthy, organic stuff when I had all those strokes.

T[_4_] 26-05-2016 05:46 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 05/25/2016 06:51 AM, George Shirley wrote:
I'm going to do it my way. G


Ha! A valiant effort! Did SWMBO roll her eyes? (I got
me one too. The more they love you, the bossier they get.)

I was eating healthy, organic stuff when I had all those strokes.


Organic "healthy carbs" (there is no such thing) gave me Diabetes.

Get your homocysteine checked. Nag, Nag, Nag.

T[_4_] 26-05-2016 05:47 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 05/25/2016 04:13 AM, Ecnerwal wrote:
unfortunate folks with Celiac, grow wheat


Or are the one out of eleven that it gives T2 Diabetes,
like me.

George Shirley[_3_] 26-05-2016 06:10 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 5/26/2016 11:46 AM, T wrote:
On 05/25/2016 06:51 AM, George Shirley wrote:
I'm going to do it my way. G


Ha! A valiant effort! Did SWMBO roll her eyes? (I got
me one too. The more they love you, the bossier they get.)

I was eating healthy, organic stuff when I had all those strokes.


Organic "healthy carbs" (there is no such thing) gave me Diabetes.

Get your homocysteine checked. Nag, Nag, Nag.

We're enrolled in the only five star Medicare Advantage Plan in the
United States, Kelsey-Seybold. They take good care of us. I'm in the
middle of a prolonged nuclear testing for my heart, it is a PITA but
might help with some of the health problems I have.

I've been carrying diabetes around since the early nineties and had my
first heart attack even earlier than that. It all comes from eating the
white man's food. Luckily I have a grandson who hunts so we get venison,
wild pig, etc. occasionally.

T[_4_] 26-05-2016 07:15 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 05/26/2016 10:10 AM, George Shirley wrote:
On 5/26/2016 11:46 AM, T wrote:
On 05/25/2016 06:51 AM, George Shirley wrote:
I'm going to do it my way. G


Ha! A valiant effort! Did SWMBO roll her eyes? (I got
me one too. The more they love you, the bossier they get.)

I was eating healthy, organic stuff when I had all those strokes.


Organic "healthy carbs" (there is no such thing) gave me Diabetes.

Get your homocysteine checked. Nag, Nag, Nag.

We're enrolled in the only five star Medicare Advantage Plan in the
United States, Kelsey-Seybold. They take good care of us. I'm in the
middle of a prolonged nuclear testing for my heart, it is a PITA but
might help with some of the health problems I have.

I've been carrying diabetes around since the early nineties and had my
first heart attack even earlier than that. It all comes from eating the
white man's food. Luckily I have a grandson who hunts so we get venison,
wild pig, etc. occasionally.


Hi George,

Yum!

I have a customer that hunts. Sometimes I score some wild
meat, but only once or twice a year. The rest of the
time, I am on grass fed beef. Have not figured out
what seeds that are using to grow them yet. I think
they are holding out on me. :-)

And you actually have to ask/demand they check your homocysteine,
as they don't make any money off the treatment. It is a sad
commentary on our medical establishment, but you have to demand
the test anyway. And they will try to talk you out of it.
Again, no money involved.

Look up homocysteine on the web. It is probably what was
responsible for your strokes and heart attacks. Maybe not, but
check the damned thing anyway!

And if it is high and they won't tell you the treatment, I will.

Nag, nag, nag. Hey, nagging is kind of fun!
-T

T[_4_] 26-05-2016 07:16 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 05/26/2016 11:15 AM, T wrote:
On 05/26/2016 10:10 AM, George Shirley wrote:
On 5/26/2016 11:46 AM, T wrote:
On 05/25/2016 06:51 AM, George Shirley wrote:
I'm going to do it my way. G

Ha! A valiant effort! Did SWMBO roll her eyes? (I got
me one too. The more they love you, the bossier they get.)

I was eating healthy, organic stuff when I had all those strokes.

Organic "healthy carbs" (there is no such thing) gave me Diabetes.

Get your homocysteine checked. Nag, Nag, Nag.

We're enrolled in the only five star Medicare Advantage Plan in the
United States, Kelsey-Seybold. They take good care of us. I'm in the
middle of a prolonged nuclear testing for my heart, it is a PITA but
might help with some of the health problems I have.

I've been carrying diabetes around since the early nineties and had my
first heart attack even earlier than that. It all comes from eating the
white man's food. Luckily I have a grandson who hunts so we get venison,
wild pig, etc. occasionally.


Hi George,

Yum!

I have a customer that hunts. Sometimes I score some wild
meat, but only once or twice a year. The rest of the
time, I am on grass fed beef. Have not figured out
what seeds that are using to grow them yet. I think
they are holding out on me. :-)

And you actually have to ask/demand they check your homocysteine,
as they don't make any money off the treatment. It is a sad
commentary on our medical establishment, but you have to demand
the test anyway. And they will try to talk you out of it.
Again, no money involved.

Look up homocysteine on the web. It is probably what was
responsible for your strokes and heart attacks. Maybe not, but
check the damned thing anyway!

And if it is high and they won't tell you the treatment, I will.

Nag, nag, nag. Hey, nagging is kind of fun!
-T



And you DO NOT want me to tell SWMBO !!!

ZZyXX 25-06-2016 08:11 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 5/26/16 10:10 AM, George Shirley wrote:
On 5/26/2016 11:46 AM, T wrote:
On 05/25/2016 06:51 AM, George Shirley wrote:
I'm going to do it my way. G


Ha! A valiant effort! Did SWMBO roll her eyes? (I got
me one too. The more they love you, the bossier they get.)

I was eating healthy, organic stuff when I had all those strokes.


Organic "healthy carbs" (there is no such thing) gave me Diabetes.

Get your homocysteine checked. Nag, Nag, Nag.

We're enrolled in the only five star Medicare Advantage Plan in the
United States, Kelsey-Seybold. They take good care of us. I'm in the
middle of a prolonged nuclear testing for my heart, it is a PITA but
might help with some of the health problems I have.


I have Kaiser-Permanente which is supposedly a 5 start Medicare
Advantage Plan...they treat me very well


I've been carrying diabetes around since the early nineties and had my
first heart attack even earlier than that. It all comes from eating the
white man's food. Luckily I have a grandson who hunts so we get venison,
wild pig, etc. occasionally.



T[_4_] 25-06-2016 09:22 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 06/25/2016 12:11 PM, ZZyXX wrote:
On 5/26/16 10:10 AM, George Shirley wrote:
On 5/26/2016 11:46 AM, T wrote:
On 05/25/2016 06:51 AM, George Shirley wrote:
I'm going to do it my way. G

Ha! A valiant effort! Did SWMBO roll her eyes? (I got
me one too. The more they love you, the bossier they get.)

I was eating healthy, organic stuff when I had all those strokes.

Organic "healthy carbs" (there is no such thing) gave me Diabetes.

Get your homocysteine checked. Nag, Nag, Nag.

We're enrolled in the only five star Medicare Advantage Plan in the
United States, Kelsey-Seybold. They take good care of us. I'm in the
middle of a prolonged nuclear testing for my heart, it is a PITA but
might help with some of the health problems I have.


I have Kaiser-Permanente which is supposedly a 5 start Medicare
Advantage Plan...they treat me very well


I have heard that said several places before.

The big issue is that Big Med is now the number one killer (Death
by medical), not heart disease. Big Med just admitted that
hospital infections are now the number three killer. So, when
do your use them and when to avoid them is the big question.

They have saved my life three times so far. I don't want to
die of a hospital infection like my two in-laws or of punctured
colon from a scan probe, as did one of my customer's mothers,
or a bleed out from rat poison, as did another customers mother,
etc. etc. etc.

So when to use them and when to avoid them? The Er doctor who
diagnosed me with T2 was dead accurate on all his recommendations
(he also was the the one who saved my life twice). The GP I went
to, withheld information and I don't think he had clue other
that drugs and carbs.

So how to avoid walking in and being carried out in a bag?

There is a lot of fraud in Beg Med: cholesterol testing, flue
shot, acid blockers, rat poison, drugs and carbs (T2) yada,
yada, yada. Seems to me you are lucky if you find an allopath
that "heals" rather than gets rich off of "treating". I do
know one. :-)



I've been carrying diabetes around since the early nineties and had my
first heart attack even earlier than that. It all comes from eating the
white man's food. Luckily I have a grandson who hunts so we get venison,
wild pig, etc. occasionally.




George Shirley[_3_] 25-06-2016 09:40 PM

collecting melon seeds question
 
On 6/25/2016 3:22 PM, T wrote:
On 06/25/2016 12:11 PM, ZZyXX wrote:
On 5/26/16 10:10 AM, George Shirley wrote:
On 5/26/2016 11:46 AM, T wrote:
On 05/25/2016 06:51 AM, George Shirley wrote:
I'm going to do it my way. G

Ha! A valiant effort! Did SWMBO roll her eyes? (I got
me one too. The more they love you, the bossier they get.)

I was eating healthy, organic stuff when I had all those strokes.

Organic "healthy carbs" (there is no such thing) gave me Diabetes.

Get your homocysteine checked. Nag, Nag, Nag.
We're enrolled in the only five star Medicare Advantage Plan in the
United States, Kelsey-Seybold. They take good care of us. I'm in the
middle of a prolonged nuclear testing for my heart, it is a PITA but
might help with some of the health problems I have.


I have Kaiser-Permanente which is supposedly a 5 start Medicare
Advantage Plan...they treat me very well


I have heard that said several places before.

The big issue is that Big Med is now the number one killer (Death
by medical), not heart disease. Big Med just admitted that
hospital infections are now the number three killer. So, when
do your use them and when to avoid them is the big question.

They have saved my life three times so far. I don't want to
die of a hospital infection like my two in-laws or of punctured
colon from a scan probe, as did one of my customer's mothers,
or a bleed out from rat poison, as did another customers mother,
etc. etc. etc.

So when to use them and when to avoid them? The Er doctor who
diagnosed me with T2 was dead accurate on all his recommendations
(he also was the the one who saved my life twice). The GP I went
to, withheld information and I don't think he had clue other
that drugs and carbs.

So how to avoid walking in and being carried out in a bag?

There is a lot of fraud in Beg Med: cholesterol testing, flue
shot, acid blockers, rat poison, drugs and carbs (T2) yada,
yada, yada. Seems to me you are lucky if you find an allopath
that "heals" rather than gets rich off of "treating". I do
know one. :-)



I've been carrying diabetes around since the early nineties and had my
first heart attack even earlier than that. It all comes from eating the
white man's food. Luckily I have a grandson who hunts so we get venison,
wild pig, etc. occasionally.



The main thing that has kept me alive so long is being suspicious. When
we moved back to Texas in 2012 I had what had seemed to be a pretty good
SS Medicare Advantage Plan. The first trigger was the foreign doctor who
talked to his nurse about my health and she typed it into a laptop. I
finally broke into his conversation and asked him to speak to me, not
the aide. He was irate that I would speak to him and said so. I got up
walked out, didn't pay my part of the visit and told him I wasn't coming
back and didn't. Luckily I had not problems with my health for the last
part of December 2012 and moved over to Kelsey-Seybold. I've had a
couple of dud doctors with them but they didn't last long. My personal
physician is a pretty good guy and laid back and damn the appointment
time if you need to talk. Most of the other specialists are the same and
you can quickly suss out the duds because no one wants to go to them and
they don't last long.

We don't live long if we're stupid enough to put up with dud doctors
from some third world country. That being said I've had a couple of good
doctors from a third world country but I'm cautious about them anyway.

Today I spent to much time in the sunshine rigging netting over the fig
tree to keep the !@##% mockingbird's eating our figs. The mockingbird is
the state bird of Texas so I can't ping them with the air gun. I had to
go in the house and stand under a cold shower until I got cooled down
and that ain't a pretty sight. G

George

songbird[_2_] 26-06-2016 12:30 AM

collecting melon seeds question
 
George Shirley wrote:
....
We don't live long if we're stupid enough to put up with dud doctors
from some third world country. That being said I've had a couple of good
doctors from a third world country but I'm cautious about them anyway.


me too, ATM i'm screwed, but i did it to myself
so it is my fault. won't see my doc until this fall
for a checkup. she looks like she's 12yrs old. a
nun. nice lady. until then life goes on.


Today I spent to much time in the sunshine rigging netting over the fig
tree to keep the !@##% mockingbird's eating our figs. The mockingbird is
the state bird of Texas so I can't ping them with the air gun. I had to
go in the house and stand under a cold shower until I got cooled down
and that ain't a pretty sight. G


i got out and did some weed scraping and lopped
off the apple tree saplings. those things have
thorny branches... my plan to use them as a mulch
for the strawberries will need to be adjusted. i'll
let the leaves fall off and then i'll have to pick
the branches out of there and bury them. would be
too hard to pick/weed if i have to look out for
walking on thorns.

a bit warm here today. i had a nice siesta... :)
hoping for rains tomorrow.


songbird


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