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On 7/4/2016 8:39 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
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First time I set out a trap to get whatever was going under my garden
fence I caught a skunk. I did not know how to handle them at the time
but now understand that they will not spray when confined and I could
have removed it to someplace else.


i didn't know that, but i wonder if a
blanket over them would be a good idea too
as i sure wouldn't want them to spray by
accident in the trunk of a car and not have
it contained...


I've caught numerous groundhogs and raccoons in my Hav-a-hart trap but
wish I had the largest one as some raccoons get very large and my double
door trap will not hold them. I've had raccoons uproot plants.


yes, like i said, they think many of the common
fertilizers are food (they smell like fish because
many places use fish emulsion). they also eat grubs,
worms, snails, slugs, crayfish, frogs, etc. so if
it smells like a worm they'll go after it too.

the other problem with trapping raccoons is that
as soon as you catch one, another will come along
and take up residence, so if you can get your
garden fenced and keep them out well enough then
they are mostly harmless. around here with all the
decorations and pieces of wood they can go around
flipping them looking for worms,etc. underneath
but i don't mind them because they do stay out of
the veggie gardens. unfortunately, Ma hates them
and wants to trap them so we have to move them on.

the ones that don't do any damage are the ones
i'd like around, but i figure we'll keep on trapping
them and end up with the mean ones. a few of them
have been rather snarly. the most recent one was
young and very tame.


Rabies is endemic around here and a woman was bitten last week a few
miles from here by a rabid raccoon so you have to be careful with
anything you trap.


yeah, we are.

they also have the worst poo/pee stench i can't
eat breakfast if we're going to transport one...


Electric fence should work for deer. Friend had one around his garden
and deer did not trouble him.

Your electric fence should work for deer.


put up about 4ft high and put a little peanut
butter on it. one lick and they won't be back...


songbird


I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of them.

This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet Gun.
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Frank wrote:
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I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of them.

This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet Gun.


deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird
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On 7/4/2016 8:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of them.

This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet Gun.


deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird

What brand and caliber Songbird? There's two calibers IIRC, .177 and
..22. Mine is a Gamo Air Recon .177 with an air rifle suppressor built
in. Being that is spring operated it isn't that quiet but it gets the
job done within 20 feet maximum for my old eye's. The graduated iron
sights are fairly easy to dial in. I shoot from the back porch to the
back fence, about 18 to 20 feet.

I had an offer the other day to go back to gunsmithing but turned it
down. I closed my shop in 1982 and haven't looked back. There's two
things most Texan males seem to thing they know all about, guns and
women, and, in my opinion, they don't seem to understand either. G
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On 7/4/2016 11:23 AM, George Shirley wrote:
On 7/4/2016 8:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of them.

This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet Gun.


deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird

What brand and caliber Songbird? There's two calibers IIRC, .177 and
.22. Mine is a Gamo Air Recon .177 with an air rifle suppressor built
in. Being that is spring operated it isn't that quiet but it gets the
job done within 20 feet maximum for my old eye's. The graduated iron
sights are fairly easy to dial in. I shoot from the back porch to the
back fence, about 18 to 20 feet.

I had an offer the other day to go back to gunsmithing but turned it
down. I closed my shop in 1982 and haven't looked back. There's two
things most Texan males seem to thing they know all about, guns and
women, and, in my opinion, they don't seem to understand either. G


Had not read your note when I responded to Songbird. Mine is .177 but
I'm not sure of the action. While I think it may be some sort of spring
it does not have a bad jolt which I hear strangely that some airguns
with a spring have trouble with a scope because of this.
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Frank wrote:
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Had not read your note when I responded to Songbird. Mine is .177 but
I'm not sure of the action. While I think it may be some sort of spring
it does not have a bad jolt which I hear strangely that some airguns
with a spring have trouble with a scope because of this.


yes, the scope should be pretty rugged to hold
up to most air rifles. at least that is what the
dude at the store told me when i was buying the
previous gun. and considering the mounting that
had to be done to get it to stay put (it actually
never really did stay in place well) i can believe
it.

the mounting for the more recent gun is more
solid and it hasn't moved (except when i first put
the scope on and didn't use the set screw which
keeps it from sliding - after 100 shots the scope
was holding on by one set of grippers before i
noticed it was off. good laugh, but it explained
why sighting it in was taking so friggen long...).


songbird


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George Shirley wrote:
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What brand and caliber Songbird? There's two calibers IIRC, .177 and
.22.


Benjamin Prowler Nitro Piston .177, the scope is a
Nikko Stirling 4x32 AO IR MD, Mountmaster Side IR.
there is also the .20 caliber - that is what i had
before, multipump Benjamin gun of some kind, i gave
it away not too long ago - i could bring down
rabbits with it. took too long between shots to
pump it up. the new gun is single pump breaking
barrel type.


Mine is a Gamo Air Recon .177 with an air rifle suppressor built
in. Being that is spring operated it isn't that quiet but it gets the
job done within 20 feet maximum for my old eye's. The graduated iron
sights are fairly easy to dial in. I shoot from the back porch to the
back fence, about 18 to 20 feet.


most of the shots i need are 50 - 120 ft. i sight
it in for 100ft (starting closer and then moving the
target further away).

it sounds like metallic clunk when i shoot the
lead ammo. not very loud at all, it has gotten quieter
as the gun breaks in.


I had an offer the other day to go back to gunsmithing but turned it
down. I closed my shop in 1982 and haven't looked back. There's two
things most Texan males seem to thing they know all about, guns and
women, and, in my opinion, they don't seem to understand either. G


i don't really like guns, but the warden here has
shoot to kill orders for various varmints and i'm
her hired gun. luckily these days we are able to
live trap the bigger ones (raccoons and groundhogs)
and the rabbits run away enough and the other traps
are working ok for the chipmunks (buckets) that i
only really have to go after the once in a while
grackle (now that nesting season is over). our
bird population is very diverse here, i like to keep
it that ways. 50 grackles can make a mess...


songbird
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On 7/4/2016 4:12 PM, songbird wrote:
George Shirley wrote:
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What brand and caliber Songbird? There's two calibers IIRC, .177 and
.22.


Benjamin Prowler Nitro Piston .177, the scope is a
Nikko Stirling 4x32 AO IR MD, Mountmaster Side IR.
there is also the .20 caliber - that is what i had
before, multipump Benjamin gun of some kind, i gave
it away not too long ago - i could bring down
rabbits with it. took too long between shots to
pump it up. the new gun is single pump breaking
barrel type.


Mine is a Gamo Air Recon .177 with an air rifle suppressor built
in. Being that is spring operated it isn't that quiet but it gets the
job done within 20 feet maximum for my old eye's. The graduated iron
sights are fairly easy to dial in. I shoot from the back porch to the
back fence, about 18 to 20 feet.


most of the shots i need are 50 - 120 ft. i sight
it in for 100ft (starting closer and then moving the
target further away).

it sounds like metallic clunk when i shoot the
lead ammo. not very loud at all, it has gotten quieter
as the gun breaks in.


I had an offer the other day to go back to gunsmithing but turned it
down. I closed my shop in 1982 and haven't looked back. There's two
things most Texan males seem to thing they know all about, guns and
women, and, in my opinion, they don't seem to understand either. G


i don't really like guns, but the warden here has
shoot to kill orders for various varmints and i'm
her hired gun. luckily these days we are able to
live trap the bigger ones (raccoons and groundhogs)
and the rabbits run away enough and the other traps
are working ok for the chipmunks (buckets) that i
only really have to go after the once in a while
grackle (now that nesting season is over). our
bird population is very diverse here, i like to keep
it that ways. 50 grackles can make a mess...


songbird

Most of the critters you've mentioned are considered food in most of the
US. We used to go to Maryland every other year, where Miz Anne's folks
lived most of their lives. Her Dad would break out the eighteen nineties
single shot .25 rifle and have me snipe the ground hogs off the
property. That's when I found out they were right tasty critters. Some
went to the neighbors but at least one got roasted right away. Never did
find any use for the hides.

I hunted squirrels a lot when I was a youngster. We ate the meat and I
sold the cleaned out tails to a guy who made fishing flies. Got 25 cents
for each and, back then, was pretty good money for a half cent .22
round. Mostly I shot shorts for squirrels back then. Even Sears sold
guns and ammo then. I don't hunt anymore, mostly because I can't walk
very far with bad legs and back. May go deer hunting with grandson this
fall, I have had a lifetime hunting and fishing license since the early
eighties, they're very expensive now but were fairly cheap back then. He
generally brings us lots of dressed out and prepared venison, just had
venison and pork sausage with our dinner.
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George Shirley wrote:
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Most of the critters you've mentioned are considered food in most of the
US. We used to go to Maryland every other year, where Miz Anne's folks
lived most of their lives. Her Dad would break out the eighteen nineties
single shot .25 rifle and have me snipe the ground hogs off the
property. That's when I found out they were right tasty critters. Some
went to the neighbors but at least one got roasted right away. Never did
find any use for the hides.


if i knew someone who would kill and eat them
they could have them. all they wanted. we seem
to have a near infinite supply. saw three large
groundhogs yesterday. several raccoons at night.


I hunted squirrels a lot when I was a youngster. We ate the meat and I
sold the cleaned out tails to a guy who made fishing flies. Got 25 cents
for each and, back then, was pretty good money for a half cent .22
round. Mostly I shot shorts for squirrels back then. Even Sears sold
guns and ammo then. I don't hunt anymore, mostly because I can't walk
very far with bad legs and back. May go deer hunting with grandson this
fall, I have had a lifetime hunting and fishing license since the early
eighties, they're very expensive now but were fairly cheap back then. He
generally brings us lots of dressed out and prepared venison, just had
venison and pork sausage with our dinner.


i like venison sausage, but don't eat it that
often. never had squirrel.

if i'm ever starving i'll learn how to kill and
clean the various critters around here. until then
they get live trapped and released or buried for
worm food.


songbird
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On 7/6/2016 7:07 AM, songbird wrote:
George Shirley wrote:
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Most of the critters you've mentioned are considered food in most of the
US. We used to go to Maryland every other year, where Miz Anne's folks
lived most of their lives. Her Dad would break out the eighteen nineties
single shot .25 rifle and have me snipe the ground hogs off the
property. That's when I found out they were right tasty critters. Some
went to the neighbors but at least one got roasted right away. Never did
find any use for the hides.


if i knew someone who would kill and eat them
they could have them. all they wanted. we seem
to have a near infinite supply. saw three large
groundhogs yesterday. several raccoons at night.


I hunted squirrels a lot when I was a youngster. We ate the meat and I
sold the cleaned out tails to a guy who made fishing flies. Got 25 cents
for each and, back then, was pretty good money for a half cent .22
round. Mostly I shot shorts for squirrels back then. Even Sears sold
guns and ammo then. I don't hunt anymore, mostly because I can't walk
very far with bad legs and back. May go deer hunting with grandson this
fall, I have had a lifetime hunting and fishing license since the early
eighties, they're very expensive now but were fairly cheap back then. He
generally brings us lots of dressed out and prepared venison, just had
venison and pork sausage with our dinner.


i like venison sausage, but don't eat it that
often. never had squirrel.

if i'm ever starving i'll learn how to kill and
clean the various critters around here. until then
they get live trapped and released or buried for
worm food.


songbird

Sissy, it's all good, wholesome, organic food. BSEG
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On 7/4/2016 9:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of them.

This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet Gun.


deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird


My Gamo airgun has a suppressor but the crack of breaking the sound
barrier is suppressed but not silenced. These are for the alloy pellets
which break the sound barrier but the old lead ones don't and you don't
here the crack. Pellet energy for the lead ones are probably as much as
the alloy ones, only a few ft/lb compared to over 100 for a .22. Lead
easily penetrates an empty beer can so should do a job on a raccoon shot
in the head.

Mine has a huge scope but I would not trust accuracy much beyond 25
yards. I did pop half a dozen deer with it going after my chestnuts
last year but avoided head or vitals shots. Wife does not like me
shooting at animals in the yard but sleeps late and never heard me
shooting them.


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Frank" "frank wrote:
On 7/4/2016 9:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of
them. This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet
Gun.


deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird


My Gamo airgun has a suppressor but the crack of breaking the sound
barrier is suppressed but not silenced. These are for the alloy
pellets which break the sound barrier but the old lead ones don't and
you don't here the crack. Pellet energy for the lead ones are
probably as much as the alloy ones, only a few ft/lb compared to over
100 for a .22. Lead easily penetrates an empty beer can so should do
a job on a raccoon shot in the head.

Mine has a huge scope but I would not trust accuracy much beyond 25
yards. I did pop half a dozen deer with it going after my chestnuts
last year but avoided head or vitals shots. Wife does not like me
shooting at animals in the yard but sleeps late and never heard me
shooting them.


My wife asked me to stop shooting the squirrels that have been bothering
the bird seed feeders ... I have allowed that as long as they stay on the
ground they're safe , but if I see one on the feeder itself it's a goner .
Rabbits and other critters in the garden however are fair game and I don't
care how much she oblects . I work too hard getting that stuff to grow to
feed it to the critters .
Set the live trap last night , untripped but there's another hole and a
volunteer 'mater dug up . I figger it must be an armadillo , 'coon or
'possum would have gone for the meat scraps and baked tater skins I used for
bait ... and it's raining today , won't be setting up that 'lectric fence
until a dry day .
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Snag


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On 7/4/2016 12:28 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Frank" "frank wrote:
On 7/4/2016 9:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of
them. This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet
Gun.

deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird


My Gamo airgun has a suppressor but the crack of breaking the sound
barrier is suppressed but not silenced. These are for the alloy
pellets which break the sound barrier but the old lead ones don't and
you don't here the crack. Pellet energy for the lead ones are
probably as much as the alloy ones, only a few ft/lb compared to over
100 for a .22. Lead easily penetrates an empty beer can so should do
a job on a raccoon shot in the head.

Mine has a huge scope but I would not trust accuracy much beyond 25
yards. I did pop half a dozen deer with it going after my chestnuts
last year but avoided head or vitals shots. Wife does not like me
shooting at animals in the yard but sleeps late and never heard me
shooting them.


My wife asked me to stop shooting the squirrels that have been bothering
the bird seed feeders ... I have allowed that as long as they stay on the
ground they're safe , but if I see one on the feeder itself it's a goner .
Rabbits and other critters in the garden however are fair game and I don't
care how much she oblects . I work too hard getting that stuff to grow to
feed it to the critters .
Set the live trap last night , untripped but there's another hole and a
volunteer 'mater dug up . I figger it must be an armadillo , 'coon or
'possum would have gone for the meat scraps and baked tater skins I used for
bait ... and it's raining today , won't be setting up that 'lectric fence
until a dry day .


Try peanut butter as bait. I find it will catch practically everything.
Also like to smear it around below the trigger as sometimes it is not
tripped.

My wife thinks the squirrels are cute. Even has a picture on the
kitchen wall of one she took in old bird feeder. I quit putting out
feeder and will surreptitiously remove a squirrel now and then. Tough
little buggers.

Different regions have different rules. Here you are allowed to trap
live and kill them but not allowed to relocate them. Maybe cops don't
know because before I knew this I released a squirrel right in front of
a cop in a county substation. I had opened the trunk in front of him
and told him I was there to release a prisoner, pulled out the trap and
let the squirrel go. Cop said nothing.

I tried to spray paint the tails of a few squirrels while in the trap so
I might identify them in the park where I release them but it takes damn
near a can full of paint with no result other than to sicken the squirrel.
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On 7/4/2016 12:58 PM, Frank wrote:
On 7/4/2016 12:28 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Frank" "frank wrote:
On 7/4/2016 9:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of
them. This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet
Gun.

deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird


My Gamo airgun has a suppressor but the crack of breaking the sound
barrier is suppressed but not silenced. These are for the alloy
pellets which break the sound barrier but the old lead ones don't and
you don't here the crack. Pellet energy for the lead ones are
probably as much as the alloy ones, only a few ft/lb compared to over
100 for a .22. Lead easily penetrates an empty beer can so should do
a job on a raccoon shot in the head.

Mine has a huge scope but I would not trust accuracy much beyond 25
yards. I did pop half a dozen deer with it going after my chestnuts
last year but avoided head or vitals shots. Wife does not like me
shooting at animals in the yard but sleeps late and never heard me
shooting them.


My wife asked me to stop shooting the squirrels that have been
bothering
the bird seed feeders ... I have allowed that as long as they stay on the
ground they're safe , but if I see one on the feeder itself it's a
goner .
Rabbits and other critters in the garden however are fair game and I
don't
care how much she oblects . I work too hard getting that stuff to grow to
feed it to the critters .
Set the live trap last night , untripped but there's another hole and a
volunteer 'mater dug up . I figger it must be an armadillo , 'coon or
'possum would have gone for the meat scraps and baked tater skins I
used for
bait ... and it's raining today , won't be setting up that 'lectric fence
until a dry day .


Try peanut butter as bait. I find it will catch practically everything.
Also like to smear it around below the trigger as sometimes it is not
tripped.

My wife thinks the squirrels are cute. Even has a picture on the
kitchen wall of one she took in old bird feeder. I quit putting out
feeder and will surreptitiously remove a squirrel now and then. Tough
little buggers.

Different regions have different rules. Here you are allowed to trap
live and kill them but not allowed to relocate them. Maybe cops don't
know because before I knew this I released a squirrel right in front of
a cop in a county substation. I had opened the trunk in front of him
and told him I was there to release a prisoner, pulled out the trap and
let the squirrel go. Cop said nothing.

I tried to spray paint the tails of a few squirrels while in the trap so
I might identify them in the park where I release them but it takes damn
near a can full of paint with no result other than to sicken the squirrel.


I've got a good recipe for squirrel and dumplings if you're interested.
If they're eating vegetables and acorns they're good eats, if they're
eating pine cones they taste like turpentine.
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Terry Coombs wrote:

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Set the live trap last night , untripped but there's another hole and a
volunteer 'mater dug up . I figger it must be an armadillo , 'coon or
'possum would have gone for the meat scraps and baked tater skins I used for
bait ... and it's raining today , won't be setting up that 'lectric fence
until a dry day .


we've been using sunflower seeds. groundhogs
and raccoons go for them.


songbird
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On 7/4/2016 11:09 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/4/2016 9:37 AM, songbird wrote:
Frank wrote:
...
I've had them on my deck, turned the light on, opened the slider and
yelled and they refused to leave.

Once sprayed them in the face with wasp spray jet to get rid of them.

This year, if wife is asleep, they are going to meet Mr. Pellet Gun.


deer, raccoon or skunk?

they hunt deer around here so it is rare they
come close the house here, but i have had some
winters when they've bedded down overnight about
20ft from where i'm typing.

my pellet gun will sound like a 22 if i use
the alloy ammo. every time i change ammo i have
to resight the scope. i'm looking forwards to
finding ammo that i can stick with all the time
as sighting it in takes time and pellets. it
will probably be next year before i run out of
the current batch and switch to the expensive
pellets i bought. then i have to use all that
up before i try something else...

it was nice before when i could get a one
inch group at 33yards (my previous air rifle).
this new gun isn't that accurate yet (still
breaking it in), but i also need to find the alloy
ammo that works the best. some rainy day i'll
have to look on-line at more reviews...

be careful and don't shoot your eye out!


songbird


My Gamo airgun has a suppressor but the crack of breaking the sound
barrier is suppressed but not silenced. These are for the alloy pellets
which break the sound barrier but the old lead ones don't and you don't
here the crack. Pellet energy for the lead ones are probably as much as
the alloy ones, only a few ft/lb compared to over 100 for a .22. Lead
easily penetrates an empty beer can so should do a job on a raccoon shot
in the head.

Mine has a huge scope but I would not trust accuracy much beyond 25
yards. I did pop half a dozen deer with it going after my chestnuts
last year but avoided head or vitals shots. Wife does not like me
shooting at animals in the yard but sleeps late and never heard me
shooting them.


When my wife was pregnant with our first child she spotted a copperhead
snake coming out from under the front porch. Neighbor behind us and wife
were visiting at that time. The neighbor was a WWI veteran and my wife
handed him her .380 pistol to shoot the snake. He missed twice and she
reach over and got the pistol back and shot the snake through the head.
He was somewhat embarrassed but told me the story when I came in from
work. I never worried about leaving her alone after that. That first
child was born in December 1961, she's all growed up and a grandmother
three times, with six great grands. Wow!

I haven't tried the alloy pellets as yet as I have about a lb of lead
pellets to use up. Bought the air rifle from our Russian next door
neighbor when they were going back to St. Petersburg. 25 bucks seemed a
good price and he was happy.

George


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