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T[_4_] 28-09-2019 02:10 AM

All good things must come to an end
 
Hi All,

All good things come to and end.

According to the weather service, Saturday night will be 29F,
then 26, 27, 26. So I harvested everything big and small.
well, except the Goji's which adore the cold.

Now to plot out next year's garden!

And I have all winter to pull out all the dead plants.
Nothing more pathetic looking than a frozen dead zucchini
plant.

Also, it is time to plant my garlic.

-T


Pavel314[_2_] 28-09-2019 01:42 PM

All good things must come to an end
 
On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 9:10:25 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

All good things come to and end.

According to the weather service, Saturday night will be 29F,
then 26, 27, 26. So I harvested everything big and small.
well, except the Goji's which adore the cold.

Now to plot out next year's garden!

And I have all winter to pull out all the dead plants.
Nothing more pathetic looking than a frozen dead zucchini
plant.

Also, it is time to plant my garlic.

-T


Where are you that it's getting that cold already? Our overnight lows here northeast of Baltimore, Maryland, are projected to be in the mid-60's for the next week, then falling to around 50. We've been very dry here, no noticeable rain for a couple of weeks. They're saying morning showers next Friday but those are frequently scattered around the area; one neighborhood gets wet, the one across the street stays dry.

Paul

T[_4_] 28-09-2019 11:25 PM

All good things must come to an end
 
On 9/28/19 5:42 AM, Pavel314 wrote:
On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 9:10:25 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

All good things come to and end.

According to the weather service, Saturday night will be 29F,
then 26, 27, 26. So I harvested everything big and small.
well, except the Goji's which adore the cold.

Now to plot out next year's garden!

And I have all winter to pull out all the dead plants.
Nothing more pathetic looking than a frozen dead zucchini
plant.

Also, it is time to plant my garlic.

-T


Where are you that it's getting that cold already? Our overnight lows here northeast of Baltimore, Maryland, are projected to be in the mid-60's for the next week, then falling to around 50. We've been very dry here, no noticeable rain for a couple of weeks. They're saying morning showers next Friday but those are frequently scattered around the area; one neighborhood gets wet, the one across the street stays dry.

Paul


https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClic...73447126141484

Pavel314[_2_] 29-09-2019 03:29 AM

All good things must come to an end
 
On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 6:25:13 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 9/28/19 5:42 AM, Pavel314 wrote:
On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 9:10:25 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

All good things come to and end.

According to the weather service, Saturday night will be 29F,
then 26, 27, 26. So I harvested everything big and small.
well, except the Goji's which adore the cold.

Now to plot out next year's garden!

And I have all winter to pull out all the dead plants.
Nothing more pathetic looking than a frozen dead zucchini
plant.

Also, it is time to plant my garlic.

-T


Where are you that it's getting that cold already? Our overnight lows here northeast of Baltimore, Maryland, are projected to be in the mid-60's for the next week, then falling to around 50. We've been very dry here, no noticeable rain for a couple of weeks. They're saying morning showers next Friday but those are frequently scattered around the area; one neighborhood gets wet, the one across the street stays dry.

Paul


https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClic...73447126141484


I wouldn't have thought it got so cold so soon up there.

Paul

T[_4_] 29-09-2019 05:04 AM

All good things must come to an end
 
On 9/28/19 7:29 PM, Pavel314 wrote:
On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 6:25:13 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 9/28/19 5:42 AM, Pavel314 wrote:
On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 9:10:25 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

All good things come to and end.

According to the weather service, Saturday night will be 29F,
then 26, 27, 26. So I harvested everything big and small.
well, except the Goji's which adore the cold.

Now to plot out next year's garden!

And I have all winter to pull out all the dead plants.
Nothing more pathetic looking than a frozen dead zucchini
plant.

Also, it is time to plant my garlic.

-T

Where are you that it's getting that cold already? Our overnight lows here northeast of Baltimore, Maryland, are projected to be in the mid-60's for the next week, then falling to around 50. We've been very dry here, no noticeable rain for a couple of weeks. They're saying morning showers next Friday but those are frequently scattered around the area; one neighborhood gets wet, the one across the street stays dry.

Paul


https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClic...73447126141484


I wouldn't have thought it got so cold so soon up there.

Paul


It is always a fight between summer and winter. We have
a really short growing season

songbird[_2_] 29-09-2019 02:53 PM

All good things must come to an end
 
Pavel314 wrote:
....
I wouldn't have thought it got so cold so soon up there.


some of my garden friends up in Idaho have already had
snow on the ground this past week.

here we have two days of low 80s in the forecast for
Mon-Tue and then returning to cooler, but no frost or
freezing in the forecast for at least the next week so
far.

as long as it holds like this for a few more weeks
that should be good enough.

the early stuff is already in (onions, early beans,
tomatoes, cucumbers, squash). the later beans will go
as long as they can or until i can get out to pick them.

way too much rain this week so i may be picking some
pods in the rain (today included).


songbird

T[_4_] 30-09-2019 01:57 AM

All good things must come to an end
 
On 9/28/19 9:04 PM, T wrote:
On 9/28/19 7:29 PM, Pavel314 wrote:
On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 6:25:13 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 9/28/19 5:42 AM, Pavel314 wrote:
On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 9:10:25 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

All good things come to and end.

According to the weather service, Saturday night will be 29F,
then 26, 27, 26.Â*Â* So I harvested everything big and small.
well, except the Goji's which adore the cold.

Now to plot out next year's garden!

And I have all winter to pull out all the dead plants.
Nothing more pathetic looking than a frozen dead zucchini
plant.

Also, it is time to plant my garlic.

-T

Where are you that it's getting that cold already? Our overnight
lows here northeast of Baltimore, Maryland, are projected to be in
the mid-60's for the next week, then falling to around 50. We've
been very dry here, no noticeable rain for a couple of weeks.
They're saying morning showers next Friday but those are frequently
scattered around the area; one neighborhood gets wet, the one across
the street stays dry.

Paul


https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClic...73447126141484


I wouldn't have thought it got so cold so soon up there.

Paul


It is always a fight between summer and winter.Â* We have
a really short growing season


The weather service said it got down to 28F last night. But
nothing froze. We did have winds about 20 mph. I wonder if
that had anything to do with it. Tonight is suppose to get worse.


songbird[_2_] 30-09-2019 01:02 PM

All good things must come to an end
 
T wrote:
....
The weather service said it got down to 28F last night. But
nothing froze. We did have winds about 20 mph. I wonder if
that had anything to do with it. Tonight is suppose to get worse.


be glad you're not in Montana... eek! that's way
too early to get that much snow!


songbird

T[_4_] 30-09-2019 01:21 PM

All good things must come to an end
 
On 9/30/19 5:02 AM, songbird wrote:
T wrote:
...
The weather service said it got down to 28F last night. But
nothing froze. We did have winds about 20 mph. I wonder if
that had anything to do with it. Tonight is suppose to get worse.


be glad you're not in Montana... eek! that's way
too early to get that much snow!


songbird


¡Ay, caramba!

I listened to a documentary oh plans that won't domesticate. one of
them was "huckleberry". They REQUIRE high altitude
and a blanket of snow over them in the winter. (Cold
weather with out the snow cover kills them.) Montana
sounds like they will be getting a bumper crop of (wild)
huckleberries this years!


T[_4_] 03-10-2019 02:31 AM

All good things must come to an end
 
On 9/27/19 6:10 PM, T wrote:
Hi All,

All good things come to and end.

According to the weather service, Saturday night will be 29F,
then 26, 27, 26.Â*Â* So I harvested everything big and small.
well, except the Goji's which adore the cold.

Now to plot out next year's garden!

And I have all winter to pull out all the dead plants.
Nothing more pathetic looking than a frozen dead zucchini
plant.

Also, it is time to plant my garlic.

-T



Well how about that. The weather service said we had
SEVERAL days at sub freezing and the kids did not die.
Huh!


songbird[_2_] 03-10-2019 01:01 PM

All good things must come to an end
 
T wrote:
....
Well how about that. The weather service said we had
SEVERAL days at sub freezing and the kids did not die.
Huh!


everything here needs water wings. more rain still
in the forecast until next week when we may get enough
days in a row of dry weather to where i can get back
out and get a few things done. planting garlic would
be a good idea.

being inside for a few days in a row let me
get caught up on shelling, sorting and consolidating
box tops/flats so i have some space back in my room.

also got some of the worms fed - they look to be
doing alright. :)


songbird

T[_4_] 03-10-2019 04:51 PM

All good things must come to an end
 
On 10/3/19 5:01 AM, songbird wrote:
T wrote:
...
Well how about that. The weather service said we had
SEVERAL days at sub freezing and the kids did not die.
Huh!


everything here needs water wings. more rain still
in the forecast until next week when we may get enough
days in a row of dry weather to where i can get back
out and get a few things done. planting garlic would
be a good idea.

being inside for a few days in a row let me
get caught up on shelling, sorting and consolidating
box tops/flats so i have some space back in my room.

also got some of the worms fed - they look to be
doing alright. :)


songbird


I keep wondering if I can buy worms and toss them in
all my holes. So far the only thing I can find are
fishing worms.

songbird[_2_] 03-10-2019 08:07 PM

All good things must come to an end
 
T wrote:
....
I keep wondering if I can buy worms and toss them in
all my holes. So far the only thing I can find are
fishing worms.


you can, but it would likely be a waste of $.

adult worms generally don't transplant well as
they are acclimated to the soil they were raised
in.

some fishing worms may do better than others.
do not, however, release worms into the wild or
wooded areas unless you know for a fact that
they are already there. night-crawlers from
North America, no, don't buy those as any type
of worm for raising or using in a garden as
they likely won't make it without special care
and they also may not be right for the area
anyways.

one worm you may find in a bait store will be
called either an european night crawler or a
belgian night crawler. these make excellent
compost worms but will likely not survive
extreme heat or cold so you might raise them
in buckets like i do and then put the worm
compost outside without too much worry that
they will be a problem to any native species.
yet, it is a good idea to ask your local
environmental type people what they'd think of
using them. :)

if you want any tips on raising worms in
buckets in the non-conventional way you can
check out my webpages for those:

http://www.anthive.com/project/worms/
http://www.anthive.com/project/taters/

the reason i call it non-conventional is
that many people do worm composting but they
don't use any dirt from the gardens in their
system so they are not recharging their garden
soil and also they usually aren't using a mix
of worms where i usually have at least three
to six worm species in the buckets here.

if you can find organic matter out and
around that is kept fairly wet/moist there
is a good chance it already has a population
of compost worms there. you can take a few
dozen from various place and that will often
work just fine to start with.

as you get deeper garden soil you can then
look for gardners around your area who would
likely be happy to share some other species
of worms with you to use. :)


songbird

T[_4_] 04-10-2019 09:32 PM

All good things must come to an end
 
On 10/2/19 6:31 PM, T wrote:
On 9/27/19 6:10 PM, T wrote:
Hi All,

All good things come to and end.

According to the weather service, Saturday night will be 29F,
then 26, 27, 26.Â*Â* So I harvested everything big and small.
well, except the Goji's which adore the cold.

Now to plot out next year's garden!

And I have all winter to pull out all the dead plants.
Nothing more pathetic looking than a frozen dead zucchini
plant.

Also, it is time to plant my garlic.

-T



Well how about that.Â* The weather service said we had
SEVERAL days at sub freezing and the kids did not die.
Huh!


Last night got them. Very pathetic looking. Time
to pull out all the dead plants.


T[_4_] 05-10-2019 12:43 AM

All good things must come to an end
 
On 10/3/19 12:07 PM, songbird wrote:
T wrote:
...
I keep wondering if I can buy worms and toss them in
all my holes. So far the only thing I can find are
fishing worms.


you can, but it would likely be a waste of $.

adult worms generally don't transplant well as
they are acclimated to the soil they were raised
in.

some fishing worms may do better than others.
do not, however, release worms into the wild or
wooded areas unless you know for a fact that
they are already there. night-crawlers from
North America, no, don't buy those as any type
of worm for raising or using in a garden as
they likely won't make it without special care
and they also may not be right for the area
anyways.

one worm you may find in a bait store will be
called either an european night crawler or a
belgian night crawler. these make excellent
compost worms but will likely not survive
extreme heat or cold so you might raise them
in buckets like i do and then put the worm
compost outside without too much worry that
they will be a problem to any native species.
yet, it is a good idea to ask your local
environmental type people what they'd think of
using them. :)

if you want any tips on raising worms in
buckets in the non-conventional way you can
check out my webpages for those:

http://www.anthive.com/project/worms/
http://www.anthive.com/project/taters/

the reason i call it non-conventional is
that many people do worm composting but they
don't use any dirt from the gardens in their
system so they are not recharging their garden
soil and also they usually aren't using a mix
of worms where i usually have at least three
to six worm species in the buckets here.

if you can find organic matter out and
around that is kept fairly wet/moist there
is a good chance it already has a population
of compost worms there. you can take a few
dozen from various place and that will often
work just fine to start with.

as you get deeper garden soil you can then
look for gardners around your area who would
likely be happy to share some other species
of worms with you to use. :)


songbird


Thank you!

The last thing I wanted to do was introduce an invasive
species!

I see about two a year in the garden. I presume
the better my soil gets, the more of their cousins
will comes.



T[_4_] 06-10-2019 09:36 AM

All good things must come to an end
 
On 10/4/19 1:32 PM, T wrote:
On 10/2/19 6:31 PM, T wrote:
On 9/27/19 6:10 PM, T wrote:
Hi All,

All good things come to and end.

According to the weather service, Saturday night will be 29F,
then 26, 27, 26.Â*Â* So I harvested everything big and small.
well, except the Goji's which adore the cold.

Now to plot out next year's garden!

And I have all winter to pull out all the dead plants.
Nothing more pathetic looking than a frozen dead zucchini
plant.

Also, it is time to plant my garlic.

-T



Well how about that.Â* The weather service said we had
SEVERAL days at sub freezing and the kids did not die.
Huh!


Last night got them.Â* Very pathetic looking.Â* Time
to pull out all the dead plants.


Well how about that. One of the feral tomatoes hiding
under one of the dead egg plants survived and has both
fruit and flowers. Plus, now we are having a warming
spell, so maybe some more tomatoes?

:-)

-T


songbird[_2_] 09-10-2019 02:35 AM

All good things must come to an end
 
wrote:
....
Here, not so much. The cold weather, that is. I don't expect any
sure-enough freezing temperatures until Febrary but sometimes they
surprise us by showing up in December, which is really hard on the
tomatoes and the peas. AFAIK, the kids and their progeny are alive,
well and staying warm in various locales throughout the southeastern US,
mostly. Lately, days have been topping out at or near 90° while nights
get down to middle to low 60's. Typical for the season down here. A
bit warm during days and a bit "airish" overnight, especially during the
very small hours. Dry. No rain since August. Autumns typically are dry
unless a passing tropical storm/hurricane brings more rain than we want,
which happens from time to time.... However, we've had one rainy day
this week with more predicted. I'm grateful for it even though the rain
is interfering with my firewood and weeding activities.


:)


I was unable to garden or do any significant outside maintenance
this past year but am determined to rectify that this year. No heat
needed since February, or thereabouts. Again, typical for these parts.
Had no firewood last winter and was dependent on the local electricity
reseller to keep the hovel relatively warm (those are _not_ generous
people) but this year we've what appears to be plenty of hardwood on
hand and I've decided to abandon the axe and poney up for a powered
splitting machine, although, I'm basically a non-believer in such
foolishness and am certain to miss the exercise provided by
hand-splitting with the axe.


can you rent one instead?


Due to my inattention, the "weeds" (mostly Spanish needles, common
ragweed and indigenous grapevine) are head-high, although, I've been
able to keep a path to the clothesline cleared and now one can at least
_see_ a couple of garden beds. The Spanish needles and ragweed, unless
they've been mowed in the past, are easy enough to remove but the grape
vine sometimes seems to fight back.


yeah, wild grapes can take over here if i don't keep after
them at least every other year or so. cutting the vines off
at the ground a few times a season before they can make more
seeds to spread around does help a lot. i'll have to be doing
a little poison ivy scouting and removal this fall too.

i see one wild grape vine which is up 20ft in a dead tree
i'll have to find the root of that one and cut it off. i
don't remove them because they are ok and hold the dead
trees together. :) if i cut the vines down and put them
someplace they might have a chance to reroot if not careful
so i just leave them.

long day, tired, bed-time for bonzo here...


songbird


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