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Joe 09-08-2003 10:12 PM

help id mint?
 
Can anyone help identify this mint? It grows 4 to 5 feet high, the largest
leaves are 3 inches long, the stems and leaves are a little hairy. It has a
good taste for making mint tea, and best of all, doesn't spread aggressively
like other mints that I have. This mint was here when I moved in, and I
suspect it's been here a long time and it's still a small patch:

http://www.joekaz.net/photos/whatsth...l/index_0.html

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Joe
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Pat Meadows 09-08-2003 10:12 PM

help id mint?
 
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 17:07:07 -0400, Joe
wrote:

Can anyone help identify this mint? It grows 4 to 5 feet high, the largest
leaves are 3 inches long, the stems and leaves are a little hairy. It has a
good taste for making mint tea, and best of all, doesn't spread aggressively
like other mints that I have. This mint was here when I moved in, and I
suspect it's been here a long time and it's still a small patch:

http://www.joekaz.net/photos/whatsth...l/index_0.html


I cannot be sure, but it looks an awful lot like lemon balm
(Melissa officinalis) to me. My lemon balm did not spread
aggressively.

Does it have a lemony smell when you crush a leaf?

Pat

EvelynMcH 09-08-2003 10:32 PM

help id mint?
 
I looked and I don't know - the flowers are not peppermint or spearmint, both
of whom have smaller flowers. It almost looks to me to have catnip-type
flowers. Could it be a pineapple mint or one of those other hybrid scents? They
all smell minty, but not as strong as true mint.

I'll have to take a look at the garden center...
-=epm=-

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there is no difference between large and small problems,
for issues concerning the treatment of people are all the same.
- Albert Einstein

Joe 09-08-2003 11:22 PM

help id mint?
 
On 08/09/2003 05:12 PM, Pat Meadows said:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 17:07:07 -0400, Joe
wrote:


Can anyone help identify this mint? It grows 4 to 5 feet high, the largest
leaves are 3 inches long, the stems and leaves are a little hairy. It has a
good taste for making mint tea, and best of all, doesn't spread aggressively
like other mints that I have. This mint was here when I moved in, and I
suspect it's been here a long time and it's still a small patch:

http://www.joekaz.net/photos/whatsth...l/index_0.html



I cannot be sure, but it looks an awful lot like lemon balm
(Melissa officinalis) to me. My lemon balm did not spread
aggressively.

Does it have a lemony smell when you crush a leaf?

Pat



I have time naming smells sometimes, but it's not lemony. Peppermint is the
closest I can describe it, but I don't think that's right either.

--
Joe
http://www.joekaz.net/



Henriette Kress 10-08-2003 07:02 AM

help id mint?
 
Joe wrote:

Can anyone help identify this mint? It grows 4 to 5 feet high, the largest
leaves are 3 inches long, the stems and leaves are a little hairy. It has a
good taste for making mint tea, and best of all, doesn't spread aggressively
like other mints that I have. This mint was here when I moved in, and I
suspect it's been here a long time and it's still a small patch:

http://www.joekaz.net/photos/whatsth...l/index_0.html


If the flowers were pinker you'd have applemint, Mentha suaveolens. That's
a real spreader. Not that I have anything against spreading mints in
general, I have about 10 "real" mints (Mentha spp.), but this particular
one takes over the peppermint patch and doesn't taste very good. So this
year I've just ripped up every applemint I've seen pop up, in my garden.
Cat**** is quite a good description of both taste and scent.
It's a species, therefore easily grown from seeds.

http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/pictu...suaveolens.htm
http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/pictu...aveolens-1.htm
http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/pictu...aveolens-2.htm
http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/pictu...aveolens-3.htm

If the leaves were narrower it could be Moroccan mint, Mentha spicata var.
crispa cv., which is very good in ice tea indeed. That doesn't spread as
much and has a nice sweetish spearminty taste - and the flowers are in
small (less than 1 cm in diameter), distinct white balls on their
flowerstems.
It's a hybrid, doesn't grow from seeds (or well, it might make seeds, but
they won't give you moroccan mint), so it has to be planted from runners.

http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/pictu...-spicata-6.htm

Of course, mints hybridize freely, so you could have something else again.

Henriette

--
Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

Pat Meadows 10-08-2003 01:32 PM

help id mint?
 
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 18:20:52 -0400, Joe
wrote:



I have time naming smells sometimes, but it's not lemony. Peppermint is the
closest I can describe it, but I don't think that's right either.


I think not lemon balm then, it has a very distinct lemony
smell.

Pat

Joe 10-08-2003 03:32 PM

help id mint?
 
On 08/10/2003 02:01 AM, Henriette Kress said:
Joe wrote:


Can anyone help identify this mint? It grows 4 to 5 feet high, the largest
leaves are 3 inches long, the stems and leaves are a little hairy. It has a
good taste for making mint tea, and best of all, doesn't spread aggressively
like other mints that I have. This mint was here when I moved in, and I
suspect it's been here a long time and it's still a small patch:

http://www.joekaz.net/photos/whatsth...l/index_0.html



If the flowers were pinker you'd have applemint, Mentha suaveolens. That's
a real spreader. Not that I have anything against spreading mints in
general, I have about 10 "real" mints (Mentha spp.), but this particular
one takes over the peppermint patch and doesn't taste very good. So this
year I've just ripped up every applemint I've seen pop up, in my garden.
Cat**** is quite a good description of both taste and scent.
It's a species, therefore easily grown from seeds.

http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/pictu...suaveolens.htm
http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/pictu...aveolens-1.htm
http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/pictu...aveolens-2.htm
http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/pictu...aveolens-3.htm

If the leaves were narrower it could be Moroccan mint, Mentha spicata var.
crispa cv., which is very good in ice tea indeed. That doesn't spread as
much and has a nice sweetish spearminty taste - and the flowers are in
small (less than 1 cm in diameter), distinct white balls on their
flowerstems.
It's a hybrid, doesn't grow from seeds (or well, it might make seeds, but
they won't give you moroccan mint), so it has to be planted from runners.

http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/pictu...-spicata-6.htm

Of course, mints hybridize freely, so you could have something else again.

Henriette



Thanks for the links! My mint does resemble mentha suaveolens / applemint
more than the other mints on your site. The descriptions I read say that
applemint only reaches 2 feet high, but mine are nearly 5 feet, so that seems
odd - I haven't come across any descriptions for mints this tall yet.

I found this site which mentions Egyptian mint as being fuzzy like applemint.
I never heard of this mint before, but it is described as 3 foot tall with
sturdy stems, so I think it's a possibility:
http://www.mountainvalleygrowers.com/menniliaca.htm


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Joe
http://www.joekaz.net/




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