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Greg 17-09-2003 05:02 PM

Seedless Grape Propagation
 
I've rooted some cuttings from my Concord Seedless grape vines. I'm
new to grape gardening, and would like to know if these cuttings will
produce seedless concord grapes?

Pat Meadows 17-09-2003 06:02 PM

Seedless Grape Propagation
 
On 17 Sep 2003 08:41:26 -0700, (Greg) wrote:

I've rooted some cuttings from my Concord Seedless grape vines. I'm
new to grape gardening, and would like to know if these cuttings will
produce seedless concord grapes?


They certainly should. They should be genetically identical
to the parent plant. Different environmental conditions
could change the resulting plants, but they should still be
seedless Concord grapes.

I'd say 'they will' instead of 'they should' but then
somebody would pop up with some esoteric reason why this
works on every plant in creation EXCEPT Concord grapes.. :)
In other words, I'm just being cautious in saying 'should'.

Pat
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Dwayne 18-09-2003 03:12 AM

Seedless Grape Propagation
 
Hi. I have been told not to plant then within one or two hundred feet of
grapes that are seeded. I don't know why, but that is what they teach at
college. I took a pruning class and that was one of the tidbits of
information that I remembered.

Dwayne


"Greg" wrote in message
om...
I've rooted some cuttings from my Concord Seedless grape vines. I'm
new to grape gardening, and would like to know if these cuttings will
produce seedless concord grapes?




Greg 18-09-2003 03:42 PM

Seedless Grape Propagation
 
That's good information to know Dwayne, since I have a seeded vine
within 200 feet of my seedless vines.

Still would like to know if the seedless cuttings will produce
seedless grapes. Is cuttings the method of choice for seedless grape
propagation?


"Dwayne" wrote in message ...
Hi. I have been told not to plant then within one or two hundred feet of
grapes that are seeded. I don't know why, but that is what they teach at
college. I took a pruning class and that was one of the tidbits of
information that I remembered.

Dwayne


"Greg" wrote in message
om...
I've rooted some cuttings from my Concord Seedless grape vines. I'm
new to grape gardening, and would like to know if these cuttings will
produce seedless concord grapes?


Steve 19-09-2003 04:13 AM

Seedless Grape Propagation
 


Greg wrote:

That's good information to know Dwayne, since I have a seeded vine
within 200 feet of my seedless vines.

Still would like to know if the seedless cuttings will produce
seedless grapes. Is cuttings the method of choice for seedless grape
propagation?


Your seedless cuttings will grow up to produce seedless grapes, just
like the mother plant that the cuttings came from. Sometimes grapes are
grafted to a better root variety. This is done only when there is a
specific problem with growing a grape in its own roots. Most propagation
is with cuttings as you have done.

As far as the 200 ft rule, I've never heard of that before. I know that
if seedless cucumbers are pollinated by a seedy variety of cucumber, the
seedless one will have seeds too. I didn't think it worked that way with
grapes but I suppose it's possible.

Steve


Dwayne 01-10-2003 04:37 AM

Seedless Grape Propagation
 
Someone toold me that planting them too close will produce very small soft
seed things in the seedless grapes.

Dwayne



"Steve" wrote in message
...


Greg wrote:

That's good information to know Dwayne, since I have a seeded vine
within 200 feet of my seedless vines.

Still would like to know if the seedless cuttings will produce
seedless grapes. Is cuttings the method of choice for seedless grape
propagation?


Your seedless cuttings will grow up to produce seedless grapes, just
like the mother plant that the cuttings came from. Sometimes grapes are
grafted to a better root variety. This is done only when there is a
specific problem with growing a grape in its own roots. Most propagation
is with cuttings as you have done.

As far as the 200 ft rule, I've never heard of that before. I know that
if seedless cucumbers are pollinated by a seedy variety of cucumber, the
seedless one will have seeds too. I didn't think it worked that way with
grapes but I suppose it's possible.

Steve




Steve 02-10-2003 01:42 AM

Seedless Grape Propagation
 
Some "seedless" grapes are known to produce those soft seeds. I have
read that Venus is prone to that and my Venus does, in fact, have small
seeds in some of the grapes. They are small enough to be easily edible
and they often stay with the stem when you pull the grape loose.
In my case, cross pollination with a seeded variety isn't the cause
because I have no seeded variety on my property. I'm pretty sure I'm the
only one in the neighborhood with any grapes at all.

Steve


Dwayne wrote:
Someone toold me that planting them too close will produce very small soft
seed things in the seedless grapes.

Dwayne



"Steve" wrote in message
...


As far as the 200 ft rule, I've never heard of that before. I know that
if seedless cucumbers are pollinated by a seedy variety of cucumber, the
seedless one will have seeds too. I didn't think it worked that way with
grapes but I suppose it's possible.

Steve







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