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Norma J. Briggs 15-05-2004 07:13 PM

temp and tomato fruit set
 
Is it true what I read about the fruit not setting in night time temps are
too high? I have read mixed reports and am not sure what to think (like
there is anything I can do about it short of putting a fan in the garden at
night-which btw: I don't see myself doing)

Norma


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belly 15-05-2004 09:04 PM

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On Sat, 15 May 2004 17:36:01 GMT in
, "Norma J. Briggs"
nbriggs@(NO SPAM)houston.rr.com graced the world with this thought:

Is it true what I read about the fruit not setting in night time temps are
too high? I have read mixed reports and am not sure what to think (like
there is anything I can do about it short of putting a fan in the garden at
night-which btw: I don't see myself doing)

Norma


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Frogleg 16-05-2004 01:05 PM

temp and tomato fruit set
 
On Sat, 15 May 2004 17:36:01 GMT, "Norma J. Briggs" nbriggs@(NO
SPAM)houston.rr.com wrote:

Is it true what I read about the fruit not setting in night time temps are
too high? I have read mixed reports and am not sure what to think (like
there is anything I can do about it short of putting a fan in the garden at
night-which btw: I don't see myself doing)


Where did you read that? Tomatoes will fail to bloom and/or set fruit
when *daytime* temperatures get above 90F, or some such, and tomato
plants don't care for nighttime temperatures in the 40s, but I've
never heard about some nighttime upper-limit temperature. Tomatoes
just slow down when it's really, really hot. Around here, that means
hot night AND day. Less humid climates cool a lot more at night. And
"slow down" doesn't mean they stop or die -- they just become
somewhat less productive for a while.

Rez 16-05-2004 05:06 PM

temp and tomato fruit set
 
In article , Frogleg wrote:
Where did you read that? Tomatoes will fail to bloom and/or set fruit
when *daytime* temperatures get above 90F, or some such, and tomato


No one told the random tomatoes we planted here the past couple years.
The hotter it got the better they liked it. And we often get a couple
weeks with daytime temps regularly hitting 115F. This year's random
tomatos (freebies from the fair, one is Champion and I forget the
other variety, maybe Challenger??) decided to bloom for the first time
during a cold snap, when temps were in the 40-50 range all the time.

Maybe it's the desert climate... too much sun on their heads makes
plants crazy ;)

~REZ~

belly 16-05-2004 10:09 PM

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On Sun, 16 May 2004 15:27:36 GMT in
et,
(Rez) graced the world with this thought:

In article , Frogleg wrote:
Where did you read that? Tomatoes will fail to bloom and/or set fruit
when *daytime* temperatures get above 90F, or some such, and tomato


No one told the random tomatoes we planted here the past couple years.
The hotter it got the better they liked it. And we often get a couple
weeks with daytime temps regularly hitting 115F. This year's random
tomatos (freebies from the fair, one is Champion and I forget the
other variety, maybe Challenger??) decided to bloom for the first time
during a cold snap, when temps were in the 40-50 range all the time.

Maybe it's the desert climate... too much sun on their heads makes
plants crazy ;)

~REZ~


I've always been under the impression that beefsteaks like warm
weather...

Glenna Rose 17-05-2004 04:10 AM

temp and tomato fruit set
 
writes:

I've always been under the impression that beefsteaks like warm
weather...



Would seem so. That was my grandparents' market tomato, sold hundreds of
flats of them every year. They lived in the Yakima Valley . . . that's
warm weather!

Glenna



Frogleg 17-05-2004 10:07 AM

temp and tomato fruit set
 
On Sun, 16 May 2004 15:27:36 GMT, (Rez)
wrote:

Frogleg wrote:


Where did you read that? Tomatoes will fail to bloom and/or set fruit
when *daytime* temperatures get above 90F, or some such, and tomato


No one told the random tomatoes we planted here the past couple years.
The hotter it got the better they liked it.


Sorry. I wrote as if this (tomatoes not setting fruit in hot weather)
is universal and absolute. It *is* what many references on growing
tomatoes suggest, and has also been my and friends' experience.

Rez 17-05-2004 05:17 PM

temp and tomato fruit set
 
In article , Frogleg wrote:
No one told the random tomatoes we planted here the past couple years.
The hotter it got the better they liked it.

Sorry. I wrote as if this (tomatoes not setting fruit in hot weather)
is universal and absolute. It *is* what many references on growing
tomatoes suggest, and has also been my and friends' experience.


I've noticed that a lot of veggies behave weirdly in this area. You
should see how strange broccoli grows here -- the heading kind doesn't
make heads, it makes leafy things with occasional spates of bloom
(which are tasty but not much to them). Probably due to having a
rather broad climate range (middling winter to severe summer,
sometimes on the same day), low moisture, and soil with very skewed
and sometimes absent nutrients (beyond where you can amend it to
normalcy).

Or maybe it's the relatively high background radiation ... the reason
they put Edwards AFB in the Antelope Valley in the first place, was
because the soil was considered too radioactive for human habitation
(lots of uranium deposits), and they figured a research base wasn't
going to make it any worse. We do see lots of mutated/deformed stink
beetles... Now it's going on half a million residents and is the
fastest growing city in the U.S. Just wait til our mutant descendants
take over the world. g

~REZ~


norma briggs 18-05-2004 04:09 AM

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"Glenna Rose" wrote in message
news:fc.003d094101c5e6553b9aca00f3f1208f.1c5e658@p mug.org...
writes:

I've always been under the impression that beefsteaks like warm
weather...



Would seem so. That was my grandparents' market tomato, sold hundreds of
flats of them every year. They lived in the Yakima Valley . . . that's
warm weather!

Glenna


I guess that again --the correct answer is: it depends. I have read
differing ideas about tempatue and fruit setting, most of the literature
claims night temps to be the most crucial. I will see. At this point there
is no turning back but next year I may try to grow varieties that are
recommened by the Texas Ag office breed for the heat. Amazing how as
amateur gardeners we go from just trying to keep the plant alive to wanting
maximum production!




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