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Antipodean Bucket Farmer 19-10-2004 06:27 AM

Cuscumbers - Up Or Down?
 
Hi, Everybody,

Springtime here, and I just put in some cucumber
seedlings into 10-litre (2 and a half gal) buckets.
Any suggestions on leaving them to wander on the
surface, or supporting them?

One stake in the centre (tied with string), or three
stakes around the edge, in a tripod form, with strings
going between?

Thanks in advance!


--
Guide To DIY Living
http://www.self-reliance.co.nz
(Work in progress)

Pat Kiewicz 19-10-2004 11:37 AM

Antipodean Bucket Farmer said:

Hi, Everybody,

Springtime here, and I just put in some cucumber
seedlings into 10-litre (2 and a half gal) buckets.
Any suggestions on leaving them to wander on the
surface, or supporting them?

One stake in the centre (tied with string), or three
stakes around the edge, in a tripod form, with strings
going between?


I first grew cucumbers up the antenna mast when I was a kid.
(Pre-cable, small town Indiana we needed a good sized tower
to pull in television stations.)

Vertical growing is great. The tripod with strings sounds like
the better idea.
--
Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast)

Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)


Pat Kiewicz 19-10-2004 11:37 AM

Antipodean Bucket Farmer said:

Hi, Everybody,

Springtime here, and I just put in some cucumber
seedlings into 10-litre (2 and a half gal) buckets.
Any suggestions on leaving them to wander on the
surface, or supporting them?

One stake in the centre (tied with string), or three
stakes around the edge, in a tripod form, with strings
going between?


I first grew cucumbers up the antenna mast when I was a kid.
(Pre-cable, small town Indiana we needed a good sized tower
to pull in television stations.)

Vertical growing is great. The tripod with strings sounds like
the better idea.
--
Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast)

Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)


shazzbat 19-10-2004 01:28 PM


"Antipodean Bucket Farmer" wrote in message
...
Hi, Everybody,

Springtime here, and I just put in some cucumber
seedlings into 10-litre (2 and a half gal) buckets.
Any suggestions on leaving them to wander on the
surface, or supporting them?

One stake in the centre (tied with string), or three
stakes around the edge, in a tripod form, with strings
going between?

Thanks in advance!


Up is best. Tie or train to canes/mesh/whatever. If allowed to sprawl all
over the ground the plant will take up way too much space, the cucumbers
will be more accessible to slugs etc, and the cucumbers will have yellow
areas where the sun hasn't got to them.

Don't ask how I know :-))

Steve



shazzbat 19-10-2004 01:28 PM


"Antipodean Bucket Farmer" wrote in message
...
Hi, Everybody,

Springtime here, and I just put in some cucumber
seedlings into 10-litre (2 and a half gal) buckets.
Any suggestions on leaving them to wander on the
surface, or supporting them?

One stake in the centre (tied with string), or three
stakes around the edge, in a tripod form, with strings
going between?

Thanks in advance!


Up is best. Tie or train to canes/mesh/whatever. If allowed to sprawl all
over the ground the plant will take up way too much space, the cucumbers
will be more accessible to slugs etc, and the cucumbers will have yellow
areas where the sun hasn't got to them.

Don't ask how I know :-))

Steve



Penelope Periwinkle 20-10-2004 03:30 AM

On 19 Oct 2004 17:25:33 -0700, (simy1) wrote:


well, if you have borers, plenty of space, and no slugs, your vine
will root more readily, be healthier and produce more if you leave it
down. In my case, down is better. You can also feed 150 of your
closest friends with the harvest.


Growing it on the ground will reduce the problem with borers?
For real?


Penelope


--
"Maybe you'd like to ask the Wizard for a heart."
"ElissaAnn"

Penelope Periwinkle 20-10-2004 03:30 AM

On 19 Oct 2004 17:25:33 -0700, (simy1) wrote:


well, if you have borers, plenty of space, and no slugs, your vine
will root more readily, be healthier and produce more if you leave it
down. In my case, down is better. You can also feed 150 of your
closest friends with the harvest.


Growing it on the ground will reduce the problem with borers?
For real?


Penelope


--
"Maybe you'd like to ask the Wizard for a heart."
"ElissaAnn"

omi 20-10-2004 05:39 AM

"Antipodean Bucket Farmer" wrote in message
...
Hi, Everybody,

Springtime here, and I just put in some cucumber
seedlings into 10-litre (2 and a half gal) buckets.
Any suggestions on leaving them to wander on the
surface, or supporting them?

One stake in the centre (tied with string), or three
stakes around the edge, in a tripod form, with strings
going between?

Thanks in advance!


In our AZ desert location, the hot winds and relentless sun tend to dry out
the vines so letting them run free is best. But you need to put a board or
some such thing under the cukes to keep them off the ground. Olin



omi 20-10-2004 05:39 AM

"Antipodean Bucket Farmer" wrote in message
...
Hi, Everybody,

Springtime here, and I just put in some cucumber
seedlings into 10-litre (2 and a half gal) buckets.
Any suggestions on leaving them to wander on the
surface, or supporting them?

One stake in the centre (tied with string), or three
stakes around the edge, in a tripod form, with strings
going between?

Thanks in advance!


In our AZ desert location, the hot winds and relentless sun tend to dry out
the vines so letting them run free is best. But you need to put a board or
some such thing under the cukes to keep them off the ground. Olin



shazzbat 20-10-2004 01:14 PM


"Penelope Periwinkle" wrote in message
...
On 19 Oct 2004 17:25:33 -0700, (simy1) wrote:


well, if you have borers, plenty of space, and no slugs, your vine
will root more readily, be healthier and produce more if you leave it
down. In my case, down is better. You can also feed 150 of your
closest friends with the harvest.


Growing it on the ground will reduce the problem with borers?
For real?



Educate me if you will, what are these borers? Are they something we in UK
know by a different name?

And incidentally, who has no slugs?

Steve



shazzbat 20-10-2004 01:14 PM


"Penelope Periwinkle" wrote in message
...
On 19 Oct 2004 17:25:33 -0700, (simy1) wrote:


well, if you have borers, plenty of space, and no slugs, your vine
will root more readily, be healthier and produce more if you leave it
down. In my case, down is better. You can also feed 150 of your
closest friends with the harvest.


Growing it on the ground will reduce the problem with borers?
For real?



Educate me if you will, what are these borers? Are they something we in UK
know by a different name?

And incidentally, who has no slugs?

Steve



Penelope Periwinkle 20-10-2004 02:41 PM

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:14:40 +0100, "shazzbat"
wrote:
"Penelope Periwinkle" wrote in message
On 19 Oct 2004 17:25:33 -0700, (simy1) wrote:

well, if you have borers, plenty of space, and no slugs, your vine
will root more readily, be healthier and produce more if you leave it
down. In my case, down is better. You can also feed 150 of your
closest friends with the harvest.


Growing it on the ground will reduce the problem with borers?
For real?


Educate me if you will, what are these borers? Are they something we in UK
know by a different name?


Squash vine borers
http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2153.html

And incidentally, who has no slugs?


Very lucky people!



Penelope

Penelope Periwinkle 20-10-2004 02:41 PM

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:14:40 +0100, "shazzbat"
wrote:
"Penelope Periwinkle" wrote in message
On 19 Oct 2004 17:25:33 -0700, (simy1) wrote:

well, if you have borers, plenty of space, and no slugs, your vine
will root more readily, be healthier and produce more if you leave it
down. In my case, down is better. You can also feed 150 of your
closest friends with the harvest.


Growing it on the ground will reduce the problem with borers?
For real?


Educate me if you will, what are these borers? Are they something we in UK
know by a different name?


Squash vine borers
http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2153.html

And incidentally, who has no slugs?


Very lucky people!



Penelope

simy1 20-10-2004 06:21 PM

Penelope Periwinkle wrote in message . ..
On 19 Oct 2004 17:25:33 -0700, (simy1) wrote:


well, if you have borers, plenty of space, and no slugs, your vine
will root more readily, be healthier and produce more if you leave it
down. In my case, down is better. You can also feed 150 of your
closest friends with the harvest.


Growing it on the ground will reduce the problem with borers?
For real?


more chances for the vine to root and survive the attack. And a vine
that has rooted in several places is more productive than one that has
only one set of roots. I had one this summer that rooted in five
places. That was one cucumber factory.


Penelope


simy1 20-10-2004 06:21 PM

Penelope Periwinkle wrote in message . ..
On 19 Oct 2004 17:25:33 -0700, (simy1) wrote:


well, if you have borers, plenty of space, and no slugs, your vine
will root more readily, be healthier and produce more if you leave it
down. In my case, down is better. You can also feed 150 of your
closest friends with the harvest.


Growing it on the ground will reduce the problem with borers?
For real?


more chances for the vine to root and survive the attack. And a vine
that has rooted in several places is more productive than one that has
only one set of roots. I had one this summer that rooted in five
places. That was one cucumber factory.


Penelope



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