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Anonymous 07-02-2005 09:18 AM

greenhouse newbie
 

Hi,

ok... the greenhouse is up (12-24 quonset)... concrete floor.

have a hydropharm ebb-flow in it just 'cause I had one... have mixed
lettuce in rockwool in it now.... seems to be doing ok but just getting
the buggs out it... never grown lettuce before.

have a 200W aquarium heater in the tank set at it's lowest setting so
the roots get some "warm" nutrient but no light at this point in time
(there's a 400W HPS on a track ready to go)

and when I'm out there I crank up a little kerosean heater... heat and
co2....

adding some Little Buddy homebuilt clones to fill my space (I've got
12*12 and swmbo has 12*12)

intending for the tube setups to house quicky tomatoes and peppers....
and they'll get the additional light.

any suggestions?

like right now I'm using "2 scoops" (3 T) of miracle grow general
purupose to 20 gallons of nutrient... it's a stop gap to be sure... but
anybody got suggestions?

any tips on greenhouse bluebonnets?

Anonymous 08-02-2005 06:34 AM


Anonymous wrote:

ok... the greenhouse is up (12-24 quonset)... concrete floor.



and if you've been put off by high greenhouse prices in the retail
catalogs.... when manage to get onto one of the wholesale lists and buy
one of the "point of sale" mini greenhouses... mine was the samllest the
vendor sold at 12*24!

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barbara beardsley 08-02-2005 03:22 PM


What are the best maters to plant in a 5 gallon bucket? I think all the ones
I have get too big- (Marglobe, Brandywine, Early Cascade, Black Krim, Giant
Belgium) Can any go in a 10 gallon pot? What about cherry maters?
Thanks

Barbara



barbara beardsley 08-02-2005 03:22 PM


What are the best maters to plant in a 5 gallon bucket? I think all the ones
I have get too big- (Marglobe, Brandywine, Early Cascade, Black Krim, Giant
Belgium) Can any go in a 10 gallon pot? What about cherry maters?
Thanks

Barbara




Bill 08-02-2005 06:25 PM

In article hP4Od.24685$W16.18104@trndny07,
says...

What are the best maters to plant in a 5 gallon bucket? I think all the ones
I have get too big- (Marglobe, Brandywine, Early Cascade, Black Krim, Giant
Belgium) Can any go in a 10 gallon pot? What about cherry maters?
Thanks

Barbara





Two I've grown and liked are Patio tomatos and Red Robin.

See info at:

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/nga-gardenshop/44-3811.html

http://www.reimerseeds.com/ProductIn...uctid=TM114-20

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...129043875.html

Bill

Antipodean Bucket Farmer 09-02-2005 01:33 AM

In article hP4Od.24684$W16.21109@trndny07,
says...

What are the best maters to plant in a 5 gallon bucket? I think all the ones
I have get too big- (Marglobe, Brandywine, Early Cascade, Black Krim, Giant
Belgium) Can any go in a 10 gallon pot? What about cherry maters?
Thanks



I may be a bit premature on this, but... I have four
tomato plants in 20-litre/5-gal buckets right now.
They are "Moneymaker" variety, and seem to be thriving
in general. Summer here started on December 1st. And,
despite the off-and-on weather, I have a nice amount of
green fruits at this point.

Last season, I did "Beefsteak" variety, and the low
yields could reasonably be put down to storms last Feb.

My general understanding is that 20-litre/5-gal will
accommodate just about any variety. The real variables
then are sunlight/heat and very diligent watering.


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Antipodean Bucket Farmer 09-02-2005 01:40 AM

In article
,
se says...
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 15:22:53 GMT, "barbara beardsley"
wrote:


What are the best maters to plant in a 5 gallon bucket? I think all the ones
I have get too big- (Marglobe, Brandywine, Early Cascade, Black Krim, Giant
Belgium) Can any go in a 10 gallon pot? What about cherry maters?
Thanks

Barbara

I should think just about any tomato would do well in a 5 gallon, or
even a bit smaller bucket. They do not need a huge root system in
rich, well fertilized soil with the right moister content.



Yes, it seems to be a big issue of *consistency* with
the watering/moisture. They seem to want just a
certain amount every 1 or 2 days, and EVERY daily cycle
for their whole life.

I found last season to watch for a bucket with drainage
probs (perhaps position, or more likely my sloppiness
with unfinished compost.) They don't like wet feet -
seems to stunt their growth.

Right now, my schedule is one litre per plant, on one-
day-on-one-day-off, then the off-days have a general
hose-down for the whole garden.

My tomatoes are in 20-litre/5-gal buckets, and
everything else is in 10-litre/2.5-gal buckets. They
seem to be reasonably happy, as long as I keep
disciplined with giving them attention.


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Al Dykes 09-02-2005 06:55 PM

In article ,
Antipodean Bucket Farmer wrote:
In article
,
says...
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 15:22:53 GMT, "barbara beardsley"
wrote:


What are the best maters to plant in a 5 gallon bucket? I think all the ones
I have get too big- (Marglobe, Brandywine, Early Cascade, Black Krim, Giant
Belgium) Can any go in a 10 gallon pot? What about cherry maters?
Thanks

Barbara

I should think just about any tomato would do well in a 5 gallon, or
even a bit smaller bucket. They do not need a huge root system in
rich, well fertilized soil with the right moister content.



Yes, it seems to be a big issue of *consistency* with
the watering/moisture. They seem to want just a
certain amount every 1 or 2 days, and EVERY daily cycle
for their whole life.

I found last season to watch for a bucket with drainage
probs (perhaps position, or more likely my sloppiness
with unfinished compost.) They don't like wet feet -
seems to stunt their growth.

Right now, my schedule is one litre per plant, on one-
day-on-one-day-off, then the off-days have a general
hose-down for the whole garden.

My tomatoes are in 20-litre/5-gal buckets, and
everything else is in 10-litre/2.5-gal buckets. They
seem to be reasonably happy, as long as I keep
disciplined with giving them attention.


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If I start cherry tomatoes in a 5Gal pot in the basement how do I
light it ? I'd buy a 4 ft fluorescent grow lamp, put it vertical and
rotate the plant every day. Do I need two lamps







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Matthew Montchalin 13-02-2005 06:14 AM

Al Dykes wrote:
|If I start cherry tomatoes in a 5Gal pot in the basement how do I
|light it ? I'd buy a 4 ft fluorescent grow lamp, put it vertical and
|rotate the plant every day. Do I need two lamps

Well, I just germinated two whole packets of tomato seeds overnight, and
all of the sprouts seem to be poking up green enough under ordinary
"cool white" fluorescent lights.

Are "grow" lamps really necessary for raising tomatoes?

Right now, the tomatoes enjoy warm temperatures because I made my
own miniature terrariums (terraria) out of clear transparent plastic
bottles, and the light comes through their walls where beams of light
are presumably captured in the high humidity of the terrariums.

At least for germinating tomato seeds, warm and humid is more important
than having fancy kinds of spotlights.


Penelope Periwinkle 14-02-2005 05:51 PM

On 9 Feb 2005 13:55:34 -0500, (Al Dykes) wrote:

If I start cherry tomatoes in a 5Gal pot in the basement how do I
light it ? I'd buy a 4 ft fluorescent grow lamp, put it vertical and
rotate the plant every day. Do I need two lamps


You don't have to start them in the 5 gallon containers, you can start
them in anything from a small peat pot to a disposable plastic
drinking cup. I like the 3' Jiffy Strips or the 16 oz plastic cups
myself. There's enough root room in each cup or peat cell for the
plant to get off to a good start, and I only have to transplant them
once. When they're 6 weeks old or so, I either put them in the garden
or in a larger container.

Smaller containers mean more can fit under a single Gro-Light or
florescent light. Since space seed starting space is limited at my
house (we don't have basements in the midlands of South Carolina
the water table is too high), smaller containers means I can get more
seeds started early.


Penelope





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