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rec.gardens.edible top posting question
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**** Posted and mailed **** I received an email regarding my comments on top posting which would normally "tick me off" too but it wasn't a "flaming" mail. It's a serious request and should receive a valid reply. I also thought that others may find it informative (hopefully) which is why I'm posting it to the group. The context of the note is below but the identify of the sender has been deleted. **** Start of email text **** Hello, I read your post about top posting on the rec.gardens.edible newsgroup, and have a question. I'm mainly curious, so don't take this as any kind of attack. It's not intended to be. What's wrong with top posting? I understand refusing to read replies that are full of previous messages, but I cannot see why either posting method would be better than the other. **** End of email text **** This issue has been debated/argued/discussed more times than I could probably count. Without going into a whole historical tirade about usenet I'll simply post the following example which hopefully will make it clear along with a few links for those interested enough to do some reading. Example which hopefully shows how difficult it is to follow: Dave: Oh! Now it makes sense to me. Okay! No more top-posting for me! Bob: It's annoying because it reverses the normal order of conversation. In fact, many people ignore top-posted articles. Dave: What's so wrong with that? Bob: That's posting your response *before* the article you're quoting. Dave: People keep bugging me about "top-posting." What does that mean? A: Top posters. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet? http://www.the-foxhole.org/strads/sp...faq.html#avoid http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.3 There is a plethora of information and discussions on the use of usenet if a google search is done. Bottom line? Top posting is just considered to be rude by the majority (notice I didn't say all) of folks using usenet. -- Steve |
GA Pinhead wrote:
Yes but most newsreaders these days show the top of the message, I don't read bottom posters because they never do any snipping and I hate scrolling through 14 pages of old stuff. Never say "never." That's generalizing about a whole class of people based on the dumb behavior of the few. And it's a religious issue anyway; always has been. I regard non-snipping as reason not to read the post; almost as bad as repeating the same paragraph twice. And the ground is still 80% snow covered in Upstate NY in the hills, but nice bright sun, so that will change. I swear I heard the Troy-Bilt sigh as I slogged past the shed yesterday. Don't worry big fella, I'll wake you up soon for a stroll through the asparagus bed. Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G |
GA Pinhead wrote:
Yes but most newsreaders these days show the top of the message, I don't read bottom posters because they rarely do any snipping and I hate scrolling through 14 pages of old stuff. Times changes... snip Yes but most newsreaders these days show the top of the message, I don't read bottom posters because they never do any snipping and I hate scrolling through 14 pages of old stuff. I think that you'll find that more people prefer to read top to bottom as opposed to bottom to top. I guess we'll just agree to killfile each other. And NO, any reader worth the time to download sets the default to bottom post. bye-bye -- Steve |
Yes but most newsreaders these days show the top of the message, I don't
read bottom posters because they rarely do any snipping and I hate scrolling through 14 pages of old stuff. Times changes... John! Steve Calvin wrote: xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx wrote: **** Posted and mailed **** I received an email regarding my comments on top posting which would normally "tick me off" too but it wasn't a "flaming" mail. It's a serious request and should receive a valid reply. I also thought that others may find it informative (hopefully) which is why I'm posting it to the group. The context of the note is below but the identify of the sender has been deleted. snip Bottom line? Top posting is just considered to be rude by the majority (notice I didn't say all) of folks using usenet. Yes but most newsreaders these days show the top of the message, I don't read bottom posters because they never do any snipping and I hate scrolling through 14 pages of old stuff. |
Gary Woods wrote:
And the ground is still 80% snow covered in Upstate NY in the hills, but nice bright sun, so that will change. I swear I heard the Troy-Bilt sigh as I slogged past the shed yesterday. Don't worry big fella, I'll wake you up soon for a stroll through the asparagus bed. Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G Not quite that bad around Poughkeepsie. Snow is almost gone. I'm getting ready to fire my tiller up too. I'm pleasently surprised though that my garlic is doing very well even with all of the weird weather we had this year. -- Steve |
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SNIP. And the ground is still 80% snow covered in Upstate NY in the hills, but nice bright sun, so that will change. I swear I heard the Troy-Bilt sigh as I slogged past the shed yesterday. Don't worry big fella, I'll wake you up soon for a stroll through the asparagus bed. What is a Troy-Bilt? I don't think we have them in UK. I've heard of Peterbilt, but that's a truck and you'd need a hell of an asparagus bed for that, no? I'm guessing that Troy-Bilt is a Rotavator or similar. Educate me if you will. Steve. Ferndown, Dorset. No snow, bags of sun for most of the easter weekend :-)) Early potatoes went in today :-)) My back went out:-(( |
shazzbat wrote:
SNIP. And the ground is still 80% snow covered in Upstate NY in the hills, but nice bright sun, so that will change. I swear I heard the Troy-Bilt sigh as I slogged past the shed yesterday. Don't worry big fella, I'll wake you up soon for a stroll through the asparagus bed. What is a Troy-Bilt? I don't think we have them in UK. I've heard of Peterbilt, but that's a truck and you'd need a hell of an asparagus bed for that, no? I'm guessing that Troy-Bilt is a Rotavator or similar. Educate me if you will. Steve. Ferndown, Dorset. No snow, bags of sun for most of the easter weekend :-)) Early potatoes went in today :-)) My back went out:-(( Troy-Bilt is a name brand of equipment here in the States. He's referring to their garden 'tiller. Here's a site with a pic: http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=fram...s/tillers.html -- Steve |
"shazzbat" wrote:
I'm guessing that Troy-Bilt is a Rotavator or similar. Educate me if you will. My apologies.... forgot to engage trans-Atlantic cultural translator: Yes, it's a rear-tine rototiller.... erm... rotivator.... Similar to a Howard, but not as huge. Mine is 20 odd years old, been through a few sets of tines and a the odd oil seal, but still running strong. 7HP cast-iron Kohler engine; don't know if Kohler exports, but they run rings around Briggs and Stratton, which I believe is. The same engine often powers cement mixers and suchlike. Getting balky in its old age; last spring took 2 pulls on the recoil starter to get it to run. Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G |
G'day, You said: " My point is, with bottom posting, you at least have to scroll through the previous post, so you then have an idea what the heck the response is in reference to. ; ) Isn't the subject line and position within the thread more than enough to recognise the reference? China Wingham NSW |
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