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GA Pinhead 09-07-2005 11:18 PM

Ripe Tomatoes by July 4th, Almost...
 
Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big
green ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last year.

John! in NE GA US

Andy Petro 10-07-2005 02:21 AM

You should always state what part of the world or state you are in. For
instance i live in Canada and no way can we have red tomatoes that early.
-----================================================== ===========================


"GA Pinhead" wrote in message
...
Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big green
ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last year.

John! in NE GA US




GK 10-07-2005 03:05 AM

I'm in the Chicagoland area, and I don't even have buds yet. I planted
shortly after March 15.

We've had almost zero rain. I've watered every day for roughly 1/2 hour
with a "seeping" hose.

GK

Andy Petro wrote:
You should always state what part of the world or state you are in. For
instance i live in Canada and no way can we have red tomatoes that early.
-----================================================== ===========================


"GA Pinhead" wrote in message
...

Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big green
ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last year.

John! in NE GA US


Keith Warren 10-07-2005 03:15 AM

Uhhhh, Andy.........John said Northeast Georgia USA, or do you want
something a little more specific :-)

For the record, I just picked my first one today, Early Girl.

Keith in Extreme NE Georgia. To be exact Blairsville, GA USA. For
perspective we are 19 miles from North Carolina, 23 miles from Tennessee and
36 miles from South Carolina.


"Andy Petro" wrote in message
. ..
You should always state what part of the world or state you are in. For
instance i live in Canada and no way can we have red tomatoes that early.
-----================================================== ===================

========


"GA Pinhead" wrote in message
...
Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big

green
ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last

year.

John! in NE GA US






Steve Calvin 10-07-2005 03:30 AM



"GA Pinhead" wrote in message
. ..

Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big


green

ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last


year.

John! in NE GA US




Poughkeepsie NY here (about 1/2 way between NYC and Albany). I've got
tons of green ones but no color yet.


--
Steve
Ever notice that putting the and IRS together makes "theirs"?

Sallyrat&Sweetie 10-07-2005 03:58 AM

Yes way, we can.

I live in Toronto and I had my first ripe tomato on July 7( two days ago).
I started them from seed too.(in mid March , I believe. Normal time). And
this one isn't even advertised as being an early tomato( Bloody Butcher,
heritage variety). There is another one ready to be picked tomorrow. I
have also started picking the currant tomatoes( 2 so far). The weather has
been disgustingly hot but the tomatoes are loving it.

Sally

"Andy Petro" wrote in message
. ..
You should always state what part of the world or state you are in. For
instance i live in Canada and no way can we have red tomatoes that early.
-----================================================== ===========================


"GA Pinhead" wrote in message
...
Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big green
ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last
year.

John! in NE GA US






mondo colnago 10-07-2005 08:08 AM

Hey Sally,

You're lucky then. I'm in Calgary and just got one tomato starting
this week. I also started from seed in March. We had so much rain
here my plants which are usually a few feet high by now are barely a
foot and a half. I have a little green house which is the only reason
I have the tomato I do. The weather here has not been conducive to
growing anything but weeds and asperagus (which I've been eating for
awhile) So are your tomato plants inside/outside, using anything
special on them, anything you can help us less fortunate growers that
are going to have to wait until Sept to enjoy our first ripe one?



On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:58:01 -0400, "Sallyrat&Sweetie"
wrote:

Yes way, we can.

I live in Toronto and I had my first ripe tomato on July 7( two days ago).
I started them from seed too.(in mid March , I believe. Normal time). And
this one isn't even advertised as being an early tomato( Bloody Butcher,
heritage variety). There is another one ready to be picked tomorrow. I
have also started picking the currant tomatoes( 2 so far). The weather has
been disgustingly hot but the tomatoes are loving it.

Sally

"Andy Petro" wrote in message
...
You should always state what part of the world or state you are in. For
instance i live in Canada and no way can we have red tomatoes that early.
-----================================================== ===========================


"GA Pinhead" wrote in message
...
Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big green
ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last
year.

John! in NE GA US






Pat Kiewicz 10-07-2005 11:48 AM

GA Pinhead said:

Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big
green ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last year.

John! in NE GA US


I will be picking my first tomato (SunSugar) maybe today, and there is color
showing on the '4th of July' plant. Planted out last week of May, started
indoors second week of April. Held indoors far longer than I would have
liked due to miserable May weather, so they got a bit spindly but they
are extremely robust now, with lots of green tomatoes.
--
Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast)

Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)


Maryc 10-07-2005 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GA Pinhead
Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big
green ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last year.

John! in NE GA US

I'm in North East Arkansas and I am geting little Jelly Bean tomatoes that are ripe. THe big ones aren't yet but there are lots of green ones. I have neighbors that have tons of ripe big tomatoes. But I know mine are coming.

GA Pinhead 10-07-2005 01:56 PM

in NE GA US

Northeast Georgia United States.

I thought I did, sorry if I was not clear enough...

John!

Andy Petro wrote:
You should always state what part of the world or state you are in. For
instance i live in Canada and no way can we have red tomatoes that early.
-----================================================== ===========================


"GA Pinhead" wrote in message
...

Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big green
ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last year.

John! in NE GA US





GA Pinhead 10-07-2005 02:07 PM

Hey Neighbor! You must be on the south side of the mountain. I used to
go up to the Experiment St all the time doing their computer work.
Beautiful area to be sure.

John!

Keith Warren wrote:
Uhhhh, Andy.........John said Northeast Georgia USA, or do you want
something a little more specific :-)

For the record, I just picked my first one today, Early Girl.

Keith in Extreme NE Georgia. To be exact Blairsville, GA USA. For
perspective we are 19 miles from North Carolina, 23 miles from Tennessee and
36 miles from South Carolina.


"Andy Petro" wrote in message
. ..

You should always state what part of the world or state you are in. For
instance i live in Canada and no way can we have red tomatoes that early.
-----================================================== ===================


========


"GA Pinhead" wrote in message
. ..

Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big


green

ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last


year.

John! in NE GA US






Doug 10-07-2005 02:26 PM

NE Kansas here, picked our first Jetstar on the 5th, picked 20lbs the
9th, (got lots of plants). Planted May 7th.




On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 05:48:11 -0500, (Pat
Kiewicz) wrote:

GA Pinhead said:

Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big
green ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last year.

John! in NE GA US


I will be picking my first tomato (SunSugar) maybe today, and there is color
showing on the '4th of July' plant. Planted out last week of May, started
indoors second week of April. Held indoors far longer than I would have
liked due to miserable May weather, so they got a bit spindly but they
are extremely robust now, with lots of green tomatoes.



Sue 10-07-2005 03:25 PM

On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:18:43 -0400, GA Pinhead
wrote:

Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big
green ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last year.

John! in NE GA US


San Joaquin Valley, CA. Planted (not from seed) in early April. I've
been eating Sweet 100s ("cherry" tomatoes) for a couple weeks. Ate
two regular sized ones (Better Boy?) last night.
Sue


[email protected] 10-07-2005 03:50 PM

GK wrote:
I'm in the Chicagoland area, and I don't even have buds yet. I planted
shortly after March 15.

We've had almost zero rain. I've watered every day for roughly 1/2 hour
with a "seeping" hose.

GK

No buds yet? What varities? It sounds like you are watering way to
much. I water once a week and make sure the plants get at least 1 inch
of water/week. I also mulched heavily. They are well established, so
I skipped this weekend watering, they should be fine. And you aren't
fertilizing, correct? Low feeders so too much and you get all green,
no tomatoes.

I'm in a SW Chicago Burb (actually have Chicago bordering to the East,
North and South) and so far have picked one Azoychka (smallish yellow
beefsteak tomatoes) with two more ripening and have three early girls a
dark orange. Two Early Goliath plants I gave away have resulted in
one ripe tomato and one dark orange. The Early Golitah I have isn't
showing signs yet. The Delicious (late beefteak) is doing OK, a few
other plants I gave away have have anywhere from a few little ones
finally starting to show to about 10 or so mid size tomatoes. Burgess
Stuffing (first time trying) has a bunch, nothing close to ripening
(unless they are small stuffing tomatoes?).

BTW the last 4 - 5 years I've been starting the tomatoes outside in a
cheap-o cold frame. The nice thing is, no hardening off come planting
time, just dig up and transplant :0)

Oh yeah - despite having a very cool spring (summer more than making up
for it) I put a teeny Delicious plant outside & unprotected on March
18th to see how cold it could get before frost wiped it out. The darn
thing surivived!


Sue 10-07-2005 04:10 PM

On 10 Jul 2005 07:50:58 -0700, wrote:

GK wrote:
I'm in the Chicagoland area, and I don't even have buds yet. I planted
shortly after March 15.

We've had almost zero rain. I've watered every day for roughly 1/2 hour
with a "seeping" hose.

GK

No buds yet? What varities? It sounds like you are watering way to
much. I water once a week and make sure the plants get at least 1 inch
of water/week. I also mulched heavily. They are well established, so
I skipped this weekend watering, they should be fine. And you aren't
fertilizing, correct? Low feeders so too much and you get all green,
no tomatoes.


I have very vigorous plants and not many tomatoes. One of my plants
is really small but has lots of tomatoes. Could you rewrite that last
sentence so I can understand it? I assume you're suggesting
fertilizer of some sort.
Sue



Puckdropper 10-07-2005 06:09 PM

I've got a few small tomatoes going, but nothing ready to turn red.
The plants I started from seed aren't nearly as tall as those from
store-bought plants.

The tomatoes I started in a bucket are doing ok, there's one fruit, but
many more blossoms. They weren't doing so well until a week ago when I
trimmed several of the weak-looking branches off. Now they're doing
much better. :-)


Richard 10-07-2005 06:36 PM

I live in Albany, NY. I picked my first smallish red tomato, June
10th. Beat last years first tomato by 10 days. Since about the 25th of
June, I have been picking about 1 pound/day. The variety I am picking
is called "subartic". I have raised beds on the back of my house
facing south. I started them March 1 and then put them outdoors in a
coldframe on April 15th. I am also picking the same variety from open
field plants I also put out April 15th using Wall o Water. I should
mention that I am using black IRT plastic mulch throughout.
Richard



On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:18:43 -0400, GA Pinhead
wrote:

Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big
green ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last year.

John! in NE GA US



The Cook 10-07-2005 06:41 PM

GA Pinhead wrote:

Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big
green ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last year.

John! in NE GA US



I have been picking tomatoes for over a week. I got my first full
sized tomatoes on July 6. I have already picked at least 18 pounds.

Susan
In the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains in North Carolina
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

[email protected] 10-07-2005 07:06 PM

Sue wrote:
On 10 Jul 2005 07:50:58 -0700, wrote:

Low feeders so too much and you get all green,
no tomatoes.


I have very vigorous plants and not many tomatoes. One of my plants
is really small but has lots of tomatoes. Could you rewrite that last
sentence so I can understand it? I assume you're suggesting
fertilizer of some sort.
Sue

==========
Sorry - I meant tomato plants really don't need much fertilizer. Some
people equate big plants = heavy fertilization(wd?). Too much
nitrogen and you get massive plants and few tomatoes. So far I just
fertilized at planting time (late May). Compost should feed the
plants the remainder of the year.


Sue 10-07-2005 08:13 PM

On 10 Jul 2005 11:06:45 -0700, wrote:

Sue wrote:
On 10 Jul 2005 07:50:58 -0700,
wrote:

Low feeders so too much and you get all green,
no tomatoes.


I have very vigorous plants and not many tomatoes. One of my plants
is really small but has lots of tomatoes. Could you rewrite that last
sentence so I can understand it? I assume you're suggesting
fertilizer of some sort.
Sue

==========
Sorry - I meant tomato plants really don't need much fertilizer. Some
people equate big plants = heavy fertilization(wd?). Too much
nitrogen and you get massive plants and few tomatoes. So far I just
fertilized at planting time (late May). Compost should feed the
plants the remainder of the year.


Thanks. All I did was to put these little commercial tomato stakes
in. I have no idea what was in them, but I seem to be getting less
blossom drop (a *big* problem) and, therefore, more tomatoes since
doing it.
Sue



Andy Petro 11-07-2005 12:57 AM

What is your secret with tomatoes. I live in Kitchener not far from you and
i only have a few small green tomatoes so far. It will be another month
before they are ripe . Do you use black plastic or anything special. ?

================================================== ============================

"Sallyrat&Sweetie" wrote in message
...
Yes way, we can.

I live in Toronto and I had my first ripe tomato on July 7( two days ago).
I started them from seed too.(in mid March , I believe. Normal time).
And this one isn't even advertised as being an early tomato( Bloody
Butcher, heritage variety). There is another one ready to be picked
tomorrow. I have also started picking the currant tomatoes( 2 so far).
The weather has been disgustingly hot but the tomatoes are loving it.

Sally

"Andy Petro" wrote in message
. ..
You should always state what part of the world or state you are in. For
instance i live in Canada and no way can we have red tomatoes that early.
-----================================================== ===========================


"GA Pinhead" wrote in message
...
Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big
green ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of
course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last
year.

John! in NE GA US








Keith Warren 11-07-2005 02:21 AM

Hey back at ya. You hit it dead on. We live about a mile and a half (as the
crow flies) south of the Experiment Station on a road that sits across 129
from Pappy's. I too do work for Joe, Freya and UGA on the side, but it is of
the remodeling variety. Joe and I sit on the local Boy Scout Committee
together. Where are you located and are you guys covered in June Bugs and
Japanese Beetles too?

Keith

With a 4 acre playground in God's country!


"GA Pinhead" wrote in message
...
Hey Neighbor! You must be on the south side of the mountain. I used to
go up to the Experiment St all the time doing their computer work.
Beautiful area to be sure.

John!

Keith Warren wrote:
Uhhhh, Andy.........John said Northeast Georgia USA, or do you want
something a little more specific :-)

For the record, I just picked my first one today, Early Girl.

Keith in Extreme NE Georgia. To be exact Blairsville, GA USA. For
perspective we are 19 miles from North Carolina, 23 miles from Tennessee

and
36 miles from South Carolina.


"Andy Petro" wrote in message
. ..

You should always state what part of the world or state you are in. For
instance i live in Canada and no way can we have red tomatoes that

early.

-----================================================== ===================

========


"GA Pinhead" wrote in message
. ..

Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of

July
4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of big


green

ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last


year.

John! in NE GA US







TQ 11-07-2005 02:34 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Sorry - I meant tomato plants really don't need much fertilizer. Some
people equate big plants = heavy fertilization(wd?). Too much
nitrogen and you get massive plants and few tomatoes. So far I just
fertilized at planting time (late May). Compost should feed the
plants the remainder of the year.


All plants will benefit from an occasional foliar feeding of seaweed/fish
emulsion.



Puckdropper 11-07-2005 03:27 AM

*snip*

Do you use black plastic or
anything special. ?


Is that like black magic? *taps the tomato cage with the end of a
trowel* Grow, my pretties! Grow! lol.

Puckdropper
--
www.uncreativelabs.net

Old computers are getting to be a lost art. Here at Uncreative Labs, we
still enjoy using the old computers. Sometimes we want to see how far a
particular system can go, other times we use a stock system to remind
ourselves of what we once had.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

Sallyrat&Sweetie 11-07-2005 02:00 PM

Okay, I admit it. I cheat with Wall o' Water !. I actually didn't take
them off during the hot spell in June. I just made sure they were opened up
so the plants wouldn't cook. I have a few tomato plants in large pots and
used the walls on them as well and, once the walls were balanced (I didn't
fill all the holes), they worked beautifully.

I took off most of the walls a about three weeks ago but one actually came
off last week. i have been using them for years and am always the first one
in the neighbourhood with tomatoes. The red ones seem to work the best
except that they disintegrate faster than the clear ones ( flimsier
plastic).

And, of course, everything has been overly mulched this year b/c of the lack
of rain. We haven't had rain in this neighbourhood for over a month...

"Andy Petro" wrote in message
.. .
What is your secret with tomatoes. I live in Kitchener not far from you
and
i only have a few small green tomatoes so far. It will be another month
before they are ripe . Do you use black plastic or anything special. ?

================================================== ============================

"Sallyrat&Sweetie" wrote in message
...
Yes way, we can.

I live in Toronto and I had my first ripe tomato on July 7( two days
ago). I started them from seed too.(in mid March , I believe. Normal
time). And this one isn't even advertised as being an early tomato(
Bloody Butcher, heritage variety). There is another one ready to be
picked tomorrow. I have also started picking the currant tomatoes( 2 so
far). The weather has been disgustingly hot but the tomatoes are loving
it.

Sally

"Andy Petro" wrote in message
. ..
You should always state what part of the world or state you are in. For
instance i live in Canada and no way can we have red tomatoes that
early.
-----================================================== ===========================


"GA Pinhead" wrote in message
...
Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of
July 4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of
big green ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of
course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last
year.

John! in NE GA US









GA Pinhead 11-07-2005 02:38 PM

Keith:

We are south of Gainesville, just off 129 as well. No june bugs this
year for some reason, but lots of jap beetles. I leave a couple of
evening primroses as traps and kill them on it. That is the only thing
they are attacking this year, but I must kill 20 a day on it.

Tell Freya John L says hi! I miss the trips up there and so does my
wife, she would go with me and shop all day...

Well, I need to go and see what the rain did to the garden.

John!

Keith Warren wrote:
Hey back at ya. You hit it dead on. We live about a mile and a half (as the
crow flies) south of the Experiment Station on a road that sits across 129
from Pappy's. I too do work for Joe, Freya and UGA on the side, but it is of
the remodeling variety. Joe and I sit on the local Boy Scout Committee
together. Where are you located and are you guys covered in June Bugs and
Japanese Beetles too?

Keith

With a 4 acre playground in God's country!


Andy Petro 12-07-2005 03:05 AM

What is a Wall o' Water. I never heard of it.

================================================== ========================


"Sallyrat&Sweetie" wrote in message
.. .
Okay, I admit it. I cheat with Wall o' Water !. I actually didn't take
them off during the hot spell in June. I just made sure they were opened
up so the plants wouldn't cook. I have a few tomato plants in large pots
and used the walls on them as well and, once the walls were balanced (I
didn't fill all the holes), they worked beautifully.

I took off most of the walls a about three weeks ago but one actually came
off last week. i have been using them for years and am always the first
one in the neighbourhood with tomatoes. The red ones seem to work the
best except that they disintegrate faster than the clear ones ( flimsier
plastic).

And, of course, everything has been overly mulched this year b/c of the
lack of rain. We haven't had rain in this neighbourhood for over a
month...

"Andy Petro" wrote in message
.. .
What is your secret with tomatoes. I live in Kitchener not far from you
and
i only have a few small green tomatoes so far. It will be another month
before they are ripe . Do you use black plastic or anything special. ?

================================================== ============================

"Sallyrat&Sweetie" wrote in message
...
Yes way, we can.

I live in Toronto and I had my first ripe tomato on July 7( two days
ago). I started them from seed too.(in mid March , I believe. Normal
time). And this one isn't even advertised as being an early tomato(
Bloody Butcher, heritage variety). There is another one ready to be
picked tomorrow. I have also started picking the currant tomatoes( 2 so
far). The weather has been disgustingly hot but the tomatoes are loving
it.

Sally

"Andy Petro" wrote in message
. ..
You should always state what part of the world or state you are in. For
instance i live in Canada and no way can we have red tomatoes that
early.
-----================================================== ===========================


"GA Pinhead" wrote in message
...
Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of
July 4th. Sausalito won the race this year. I did pick a couple of
big green ones for my wife to fry up for herself. Not the biggest of
course!

Lots of green ones and blooms so this year looks good, not like last
year.

John! in NE GA US











Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com 12-07-2005 03:07 AM


Missed my goal by a couple of days this year, but still the week of July
4th.


We didn't get our garden in until May 18th this year (global warming
my a**). Nothing even close to turning red right now.

But, oh boy, with 22 giant tomato plants out there, when they hit,
they're really gonna hit.

GA Pinhead 12-07-2005 03:45 AM


First hit on google.

http://www.gemplers.com/a/shop/produ...00&src=21TL002

basically tubes of water.

John!

Andy Petro wrote:
What is a Wall o' Water. I never heard of it.

================================================== ========================


"Sallyrat&Sweetie" wrote in message
.. .

Okay, I admit it. I cheat with Wall o' Water !. I actually didn't take



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