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§tudz 09-12-2005 06:43 PM

beard alage
 
Hi,

I have a bad case of beard alage in my planted tank.
I've read on the net it doesn't mean my water is bad, and it says a SAE
would help, I don't have room for an SAE.

I already have 4 octos and a CAE, would using a chemical algae killer work?
or would this kill my plants as well?

I've used the bleach method of dipping but it just comes back.

any further help?


§tudz



Daniel Morrow 10-12-2005 01:32 AM

beard alage
 
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"§tudz" wrote in message
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Hi,

I have a bad case of beard alage in my planted tank.
I've read on the net it doesn't mean my water is bad, and it says a

SAE
would help, I don't have room for an SAE.

I already have 4 octos and a CAE, would using a chemical algae

killer work?
or would this kill my plants as well?

I've used the bleach method of dipping but it just comes back.

any further help?


§tudz


A product by api called algae fix might work for you (lists black
beard algae), it is supposedly safe for freshwater tanks with plants,
don't know about invertebrates though (i.e. snails), or beneficial
bacteria (filter). One other product by marc weiss called algae magic
should be safe to try, it is 100% organic and will harm no other
organisms in your tank other than algae. Sounds great, haven't tried
any myself (haven't needed to), but keep in mind the experts here
would tell you they (the products) would only turn your tank into a
chemical soup (natural chemicals or not). Good luck and later! P.s. -
I grew a little black beard like algae in one of my tanks because the
lighting at that time was more intense (i.e. the light was 3 or 4
inches away from the plant I was growing, the light came through the
side of my tank (glass side wall), and I have recently moved the
light overhead but further away and the black beard algae gunk has
been going away slowly but surely. Later!

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Justin 10-12-2005 03:38 AM

beard alage
 
Hi,

I had a bad experience with Algae killers, I lost half of my tank population
and it said that it didn't harm fish, only inverterbrets... If you must use
it, then make sure your KH is at about 7 otherwise, be ready with a net to
remove the dead fish as they float to the surface...

Why don't you try 50% water changes every week for about 6 weeks, it will
remove any excess nutrients...


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Hi,

I have a bad case of beard alage in my planted tank.
I've read on the net it doesn't mean my water is bad, and it says a

SAE
would help, I don't have room for an SAE.

I already have 4 octos and a CAE, would using a chemical algae

killer work?
or would this kill my plants as well?

I've used the bleach method of dipping but it just comes back.

any further help?


§tudz


A product by api called algae fix might work for you (lists black
beard algae), it is supposedly safe for freshwater tanks with plants,
don't know about invertebrates though (i.e. snails), or beneficial
bacteria (filter). One other product by marc weiss called algae magic
should be safe to try, it is 100% organic and will harm no other
organisms in your tank other than algae. Sounds great, haven't tried
any myself (haven't needed to), but keep in mind the experts here
would tell you they (the products) would only turn your tank into a
chemical soup (natural chemicals or not). Good luck and later! P.s. -
I grew a little black beard like algae in one of my tanks because the
lighting at that time was more intense (i.e. the light was 3 or 4
inches away from the plant I was growing, the light came through the
side of my tank (glass side wall), and I have recently moved the
light overhead but further away and the black beard algae gunk has
been going away slowly but surely. Later!

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Grae 10-12-2005 10:01 AM

beard alage
 
rty double dosing flourish excel, it works!! i have used it before and its
actually good for your tank/plants as well
"Justin" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I had a bad experience with Algae killers, I lost half of my tank

population
and it said that it didn't harm fish, only inverterbrets... If you must

use
it, then make sure your KH is at about 7 otherwise, be ready with a net to
remove the dead fish as they float to the surface...

Why don't you try 50% water changes every week for about 6 weeks, it will
remove any excess nutrients...


"Daniel Morrow" wrote in message
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"§tudz" wrote in message
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Hi,

I have a bad case of beard alage in my planted tank.
I've read on the net it doesn't mean my water is bad, and it says a

SAE
would help, I don't have room for an SAE.

I already have 4 octos and a CAE, would using a chemical algae

killer work?
or would this kill my plants as well?

I've used the bleach method of dipping but it just comes back.

any further help?


§tudz


A product by api called algae fix might work for you (lists black
beard algae), it is supposedly safe for freshwater tanks with plants,
don't know about invertebrates though (i.e. snails), or beneficial
bacteria (filter). One other product by marc weiss called algae magic
should be safe to try, it is 100% organic and will harm no other
organisms in your tank other than algae. Sounds great, haven't tried
any myself (haven't needed to), but keep in mind the experts here
would tell you they (the products) would only turn your tank into a
chemical soup (natural chemicals or not). Good luck and later! P.s. -
I grew a little black beard like algae in one of my tanks because the
lighting at that time was more intense (i.e. the light was 3 or 4
inches away from the plant I was growing, the light came through the
side of my tank (glass side wall), and I have recently moved the
light overhead but further away and the black beard algae gunk has
been going away slowly but surely. Later!

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§tudz 11-12-2005 06:14 PM

beard alage
 
I have some 'Plant food' by King British.

would adding this help as well?



§tudz 11-12-2005 08:59 PM

beard alage
 



Some snails eat beard algae - and shrimps (Caridina or
Neocaridina) help to avoid it.

Phosphates: Do you feed life or frozen bloodworms?



Please wait!

any further help?


Filter cycle established?
To much O2?
Not enough CO2?
Not enough NH4/NO3?
--
cu
Marco


I feed some freeze dried Bloodworm

filters are fully cycled, as I said it was an established tank, which I
planted, the alage has only just started to show up over the last month or
so.

As for Snails, I'm not a fan, they create a lot of waste, and they look an
eye sore. IMO

I don't have any air stones in the tank anymore.

possibly not enough CO2 as I don't have an injector, but it is only a 15gal
tank ( yes I know the CAE will grow too big for the tank )

as for nitrates, last time I checked they were at good levels.




Marco Schwarz 11-12-2005 09:08 PM

beard alage
 
Hi..

it says a SAE would help


Some snails eat beard algae - and shrimps (Caridina or
Neocaridina) help to avoid it.

Phosphates: Do you feed life or frozen bloodworms?

I already have 4 octos and a CAE, would using a chemical
algae killer work?


Please wait!

any further help?


Filter cycle established?
To much O2?
Not enough CO2?
Not enough NH4/NO3?
--
cu
Marco

Bill Stock 11-12-2005 09:30 PM

beard alage
 

"§tudz" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have a bad case of beard alage in my planted tank.
I've read on the net it doesn't mean my water is bad, and it says a SAE
would help, I don't have room for an SAE.

I already have 4 octos and a CAE, would using a chemical algae killer
work? or would this kill my plants as well?

I've used the bleach method of dipping but it just comes back.

any further help?


§tudz


Flourish Excel (carbon supplement) seems to be the one fix I've seen
recommended, also higher CO2 levels are supposed to help. My BBA seemed to
thrive when I started dosing Phosphates, but the plants are growing like
crazy, so I can't complain. I've increased my CO2 levels to about 35 PPM
and the BBA seems to be in check. My Otos don't touch BBA, but they may
prefer the GSA (Green Spot Algae). I'll be adding some SAEs in a few days,
I'm hoping they will turn the tide. Give your CAE a chance.



§tudz 12-12-2005 10:46 AM

beard alage
 

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
...


Flourish Excel (carbon supplement) seems to be the one fix I've seen
recommended, also higher CO2 levels are supposed to help. My BBA seemed to
thrive when I started dosing Phosphates, but the plants are growing like
crazy, so I can't complain. I've increased my CO2 levels to about 35 PPM
and the BBA seems to be in check. My Otos don't touch BBA, but they may
prefer the GSA (Green Spot Algae). I'll be adding some SAEs in a few days,
I'm hoping they will turn the tide. Give your CAE a chance.



MY CAE has done a great job on the black algae that was on one of my swords,
but it hasn't done much for the green spot algae on the glass at the back of
the tank.
I've also got a lawn of green hair algae on my Bog wood, and a fake log, it
has started again to grow on the glass. I have platies in one of my tanks,
and they used to be in this one.
they gave birth and I didn't notice, before I moved them, but one of the fry
has survived, and he seems to enjoy eating the black and green algae, so I
might try put a few of the adults from the other tank in there for a few
days and see what happens.

How important is a CO2 injector? I don't have one, and I've read you don't
need it, but would it be a good idea to buy one?

§tudz



Bill Stock 13-12-2005 02:12 AM

beard alage
 

"§tudz" wrote in message
...

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
...


Flourish Excel (carbon supplement) seems to be the one fix I've seen
recommended, also higher CO2 levels are supposed to help. My BBA seemed
to thrive when I started dosing Phosphates, but the plants are growing
like crazy, so I can't complain. I've increased my CO2 levels to about
35 PPM and the BBA seems to be in check. My Otos don't touch BBA, but
they may prefer the GSA (Green Spot Algae). I'll be adding some SAEs in a
few days, I'm hoping they will turn the tide. Give your CAE a chance.



MY CAE has done a great job on the black algae that was on one of my
swords, but it hasn't done much for the green spot algae on the glass at
the back of the tank.
I've also got a lawn of green hair algae on my Bog wood, and a fake log,
it has started again to grow on the glass. I have platies in one of my
tanks, and they used to be in this one.
they gave birth and I didn't notice, before I moved them, but one of the
fry has survived, and he seems to enjoy eating the black and green algae,
so I might try put a few of the adults from the other tank in there for a
few days and see what happens.

How important is a CO2 injector? I don't have one, and I've read you don't
need it, but would it be a good idea to buy one?


If your lighting is below 2 wpg you shouldn't need CO2. If you have a small
tank, a Yeast/Sugar CO2 generator should do.

§tudz




§tudz 13-12-2005 08:22 AM

beard alage
 

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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If your lighting is below 2 wpg you shouldn't need CO2. If you have a
small tank, a Yeast/Sugar CO2 generator should do.


2 wpg?

I have two tubes in my planted tank, which is a 15gallon tank.

1 x Arcadia - Original Tropical Lamp
1 x Arcadia - Frsh Water Lamp

Both are 15watts

I was reading one of the NGs and gound a thread about DIY CO2 kits
yesterday, so decided to read up about them.
They seem to have some draw backs, such as killing all the fish? if not done
right, and knowing my luck, lol, thats what would happen.

I've seen the tetra CO2 kits on Ebay for about £5, so its not breaking the
bank, well at the moment it is, damn Xmas, but it wont be when I get paid.

§tudz



§tudz 13-12-2005 10:01 AM

beard alage
 
oh god!

well I've been doing bleach dips, as I said earlier, I've just started one,
and I jusy found my small clown loach floating in the bucket.... :'(

I checked the log throughly before adding it, he must had been hiding
extremely well.

Just a point to everyone trying this, make sure your fish aren't hiding in
the stuff your gonna dip :(

R.I.P - poor little clown loach, whos life was taken mistakenly.

§tudz



Marco Schwarz 13-12-2005 08:30 PM

beard alage
 
Hi..

I feed some freeze dried Bloodworm


FD Bloodworm shouldn't contain as much phosphate as frozen
Bloodworm.

How much CO2 is in water?

--
cu
Marco

Bill Stock 13-12-2005 11:31 PM

beard alage
 

"§tudz" wrote in message
...

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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If your lighting is below 2 wpg you shouldn't need CO2. If you have a
small tank, a Yeast/Sugar CO2 generator should do.


2 wpg?


2 watts per gallon.

So you have 30 watts on your 15 gallon tank or 2 wpg. CO2 probably not
rerquired.


I have two tubes in my planted tank, which is a 15gallon tank.

1 x Arcadia - Original Tropical Lamp
1 x Arcadia - Frsh Water Lamp

Both are 15watts

I was reading one of the NGs and gound a thread about DIY CO2 kits
yesterday, so decided to read up about them.
They seem to have some draw backs, such as killing all the fish? if not
done right, and knowing my luck, lol, thats what would happen.


They can get tipped over and leak into the tank. You should make sure it
can't fall over and use a check valve.


I've seen the tetra CO2 kits on Ebay for about £5, so its not breaking the
bank, well at the moment it is, damn Xmas, but it wont be when I get paid.

§tudz




Koi-lo 13-12-2005 11:49 PM

beard alage
 

"§tudz" wrote in message
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R.I.P - poor little clown loach, whos life was taken mistakenly.

==========================
Stuff like that happens to all of us..... :(

Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o




§tudz 14-12-2005 12:39 PM

beard alage
 

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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2 watts per gallon.

So you have 30 watts on your 15 gallon tank or 2 wpg. CO2 probably not
rerquired.

They can get tipped over and leak into the tank. You should make sure it
can't fall over and use a check valve.


right, so you would say I don't need a CO2 kit?

While done the clean yesterday, I notice one of the filters was not working
properly, so I clean it up, and its working great again.

oh and yeah, its only 15gal but has two filters as it was over stocked, prob
still is.

Filters:
» Fluval - 2Plus
» Furplast - BluCompact02

I've also done some replacement of some of the plants, as the have
multiplied, mostly the dwarf swords have, so they are move spred out now, so
they have room to grow.
if the continue to grow like that I'll have a forest in the tank in no time.

I have a red Sword (or what I think is a red sword) in the tank as well,
I've had to cut back a lot of the leaves as they were dead, but they grow
back pretty well, don't they?
well that what I read some place.

in one of my tanks I have 5 platies, 3 females and 2 males. in the planeted
tank I have 1 young male platey, he is about maybe two months old now, if I
took one of the males from the other tank and placed it in the planeted
tank, to eat the H/A (As I've seen the young platy munching on it alot)
would they battle each other, even without any females about?

Thanks for all your help so far,

§tudz



Bill Stock 15-12-2005 12:50 AM

beard alage
 

"§tudz" wrote in message
...

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
...

2 watts per gallon.

So you have 30 watts on your 15 gallon tank or 2 wpg. CO2 probably not
rerquired.

They can get tipped over and leak into the tank. You should make sure it
can't fall over and use a check valve.


right, so you would say I don't need a CO2 kit?


Do your plants pearl (give off O2 bubbles) after you do a large water
change? If the answer is yes, you may benefit from adding CO2. Even if they
don't pearl after a water change, you may still benefit from a water change.
It depends on the amount of CO2 in your water. Comapre the PH of your water
fresh out of the tap and after it sits about 24 hours. although it sounds
like you're doing OK based on your notes below.


While done the clean yesterday, I notice one of the filters was not
working properly, so I clean it up, and its working great again.

oh and yeah, its only 15gal but has two filters as it was over stocked,
prob still is.


This will provide lots of Nitrates (probably Phosphate too) for your plants.
So as long as your fish are healthy, proably not an issue.


Filters:
» Fluval - 2Plus
» Furplast - BluCompact02

I've also done some replacement of some of the plants, as the have
multiplied, mostly the dwarf swords have, so they are move spred out now,
so they have room to grow.
if the continue to grow like that I'll have a forest in the tank in no
time.

I have a red Sword (or what I think is a red sword) in the tank as well,
I've had to cut back a lot of the leaves as they were dead, but they grow
back pretty well, don't they?
well that what I read some place.


I've got a few 'Red' Swords, a Rubin, a Rose and an Osiris. The Rose was
doing poorly for a while, but has really done well since I started paying
more attention to the nutrient levels (low Phosphate). It has practically
taken over the tank as you say.


in one of my tanks I have 5 platies, 3 females and 2 males. in the
planeted tank I have 1 young male platey, he is about maybe two months old
now, if I took one of the males from the other tank and placed it in the
planeted tank, to eat the H/A (As I've seen the young platy munching on it
alot) would they battle each other, even without any females about?


I don't know much about Platies, I've always avoided live bearers. :)


Thanks for all your help so far,

§tudz




§tudz 15-12-2005 01:45 PM

beard alage
 

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
...
Do your plants pearl (give off O2 bubbles) after you do a large water
change? If the answer is yes, you may benefit from adding CO2. Even if
they don't pearl after a water change, you may still benefit from a water
change. It depends on the amount of CO2 in your water. Comapre the PH of
your water fresh out of the tap and after it sits about 24 hours. although
it sounds like you're doing OK based on your notes below.


This will provide lots of Nitrates (probably Phosphate too) for your
plants. So as long as your fish are healthy, proably not an issue.

I don't know much about Platies, I've always avoided live bearers. :)



They don't pearl no, the ph in the tank is 7.

I guess there would be a test kit I could buy to test for phosphates?
I've started to keep a log now, of when I do water changes, and anything
else I do to the tank. I am also recording the Nitrates and Nitrites, as
well as ammonia.

My nitrates are high ast the moment (40ppm), where as Nitrites are oppm and
Ammonia are 0ppm.

could the high nitrates be worsening the problem?

I'm using amquel+ Plus and water changes to decrease the NO3-

as for the comment about live breaders I was always told never to keep them
as I'd have hundreds in a few months time, but I think I kept the balance
between fry and 'fry eaters' right, as I have only actually seen 3 fry, one
of them has survived, and I've had the LBs for over 6 months, may be longer
now.

§tudz



Bill Stock 16-12-2005 01:01 AM

beard alage
 

"§tudz" wrote in message
...

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
...
Do your plants pearl (give off O2 bubbles) after you do a large water
change? If the answer is yes, you may benefit from adding CO2. Even if
they don't pearl after a water change, you may still benefit from a water
change. It depends on the amount of CO2 in your water. Comapre the PH of
your water fresh out of the tap and after it sits about 24 hours.
although it sounds like you're doing OK based on your notes below.


This will provide lots of Nitrates (probably Phosphate too) for your
plants. So as long as your fish are healthy, proably not an issue.

I don't know much about Platies, I've always avoided live bearers. :)



They don't pearl no, the ph in the tank is 7.


What's the PH of your tap water? What's your LH?

I guess there would be a test kit I could buy to test for phosphates?
I've started to keep a log now, of when I do water changes, and anything
else I do to the tank. I am also recording the Nitrates and Nitrites, as
well as ammonia.

My nitrates are high ast the moment (40ppm), where as Nitrites are oppm
and Ammonia are 0ppm.


I'd try to keep them under 20ppm.

Do you add any Potassium?
Any idea what your Phosphate levels are?

could the high nitrates be worsening the problem?

I'm using amquel+ Plus and water changes to decrease the NO3-


How often do you do water changes, how big?

as for the comment about live breaders I was always told never to keep
them as I'd have hundreds in a few months time, but I think I kept the
balance between fry and 'fry eaters' right, as I have only actually seen 3
fry, one of them has survived, and I've had the LBs for over 6 months, may
be longer now.

§tudz




§tudz 16-12-2005 08:11 AM

beard alage
 

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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What's the PH of your tap water? What's your LH?


I'd try to keep them under 20ppm.

Do you add any Potassium?
Any idea what your Phosphate levels are?


How often do you do water changes, how big?


Yeah I do try to keep the Nirtrates under 20ppm but not very successful.

I think my tap water PH is about 7. did you mean PH not LH? is so my tank PH
is 7 as well

I don't add any Potassium, and how can I check my Phospahate levels?

I normally do a 50% change every two weeks,


§tudz



Bill Stock 17-12-2005 01:34 AM

beard alage
 

"§tudz" wrote in message
...

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
...

What's the PH of your tap water? What's your LH?


I'd try to keep them under 20ppm.

Do you add any Potassium?
Any idea what your Phosphate levels are?


How often do you do water changes, how big?


Yeah I do try to keep the Nirtrates under 20ppm but not very successful.

I think my tap water PH is about 7. did you mean PH not LH? is so my tank
PH is 7 as well


No KH or carbonate hardness.

If the PH of your tap water is 7 and the PH of the tank is 7, then you
likely have very little CO2 in your tap water. so you would not see any
pearling from a water change. You should really test the PH of your tap
water fresh out of the tap and then test it again after it has sat for 24
hours. Compare these two PH values to determine how much CO2 you have in
your tap water.


I don't add any Potassium, and how can I check my Phospahate levels?


You can buy a test kit to test your Phosphate levels.

I normally do a 50% change every two weeks,


That's not bad. Do you vacuum your gravel and clean your filter regularly? I
think you said you did.

§tudz


P.S. My scum sucking ISP is dropping Usenet, so I likely won't be posting
again, until I change ISPs.





Daniel Morrow 17-12-2005 02:15 AM

beard alage
 
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"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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"§tudz" wrote in message
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"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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What's the PH of your tap water? What's your LH?


I'd try to keep them under 20ppm.

Do you add any Potassium?
Any idea what your Phosphate levels are?


How often do you do water changes, how big?


Yeah I do try to keep the Nirtrates under 20ppm but not very successful.

I think my tap water PH is about 7. did you mean PH not LH? is so my

tank
PH is 7 as well


No KH or carbonate hardness.

If the PH of your tap water is 7 and the PH of the tank is 7, then you
likely have very little CO2 in your tap water. so you would not see any
pearling from a water change. You should really test the PH of your tap
water fresh out of the tap and then test it again after it has sat for 24
hours. Compare these two PH values to determine how much CO2 you have in
your tap water.


I don't add any Potassium, and how can I check my Phospahate levels?


You can buy a test kit to test your Phosphate levels.

I normally do a 50% change every two weeks,


That's not bad. Do you vacuum your gravel and clean your filter regularly?

I
think you said you did.

§tudz


P.S. My scum sucking ISP is dropping Usenet, so I likely won't be posting
again, until I change ISPs.





Bill/studs whoever - you can find decent free newservers on the net -
especially on the web. And no - I don't mean web forums, I mean actual
newservers you can use - but getting one you can post to is admittedly
difficult. Check out the following newserver (usenet newgroups) search
engine that exists on the web: http://www.disenter.com/ . It should give you
enough information to be able to use a free newserver with your default (or
whatever handles usenet for you) newsreader (and poster) to read and
hopefully (depending on the newsserver used from this list) write messages
to these groups. Good luck and later! P.s. just as a side note - you will
most likely have to hop to other free newsservers after a short time with
each as in my experience any one newserver doesn't last very long, from this
list.




Koi-lo 17-12-2005 03:20 AM

beard alage
 

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
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P.S. My scum sucking ISP is dropping Usenet, so I likely won't be posting
again, until I change ISPs.

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Larry Blanchard 17-12-2005 05:09 PM

beard alage
 
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:34:52 -0500, Bill Stock wrote:

P.S. My scum sucking ISP is dropping Usenet, so I likely won't be posting
again, until I change ISPs.


In the meantime you can read at news.readfreenews.net, but you can't post.
Worst case, you could always post via Google.

Richard Sexton 14-01-2006 11:15 PM

beard alage
 
In article ,
Grae wrote:
rty double dosing flourish excel, it works!! i have used it before and its
actually good for your tank/plants as well


if I let things go a while and don't fertilize or change water often
enough I get staghorn, thread, beard and who knpows what other
kinds of algae.

I simply go out and get some Flourish Excel, use per the instructions
and it's usualy turned white on the third day and simly dissolves.

You can shock alage by changung 80% of the water two days in a row,
then chnage 50% once a week ans it shouldn't come back. Vacuum the
gravel if you have it, lots of crud sits there, enough to pollute
the water again if it has the chance.

There are complicated legal reasons why SeaChem says nothing
about it's algae killi properties - these have been discussed
in this group many time and can be found by googling the web.

The only thing they will say officially is if you're trying
to grow "moss balls": (Cladophora algae) then use of Flourish
Excel is expected to have a deleterious efect on them.

Fertiize as per Tom Barr's Estimative Index and you should not have
algae coma back; oddly it's the lack or nutrients in a planted
tank that causes algae, not too much of something.



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Richard Sexton 14-01-2006 11:16 PM

beard alage
 
MY CAE has done a great job on the black algae that was on one of my swords,
but it hasn't done much for the green spot algae on the glass at the back of
the tank.


That's caused by low phosphates.

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Richard Sexton 14-01-2006 11:19 PM

beard alage
 
In article ,
§tudz wrote:

"Bill Stock" wrote in message
. ..

If your lighting is below 2 wpg you shouldn't need CO2. If you have a
small tank, a Yeast/Sugar CO2 generator should do.


2 wpg?

I have two tubes in my planted tank, which is a 15gallon tank.

1 x Arcadia - Original Tropical Lamp
1 x Arcadia - Frsh Water Lamp


In case I haven't stirred up enough shit today can I just
take this moment to point out that neither work as well
as warm whites?

The only reason to use anything else is strictly for the
aesthetics.

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