acrylic Tanks?
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would this be a problem at all if you put it on the first floor? I've read that all homes have to be spec'd to 1.5lbs/in^2 min, on EVERY floor "WD" wrote in message t.net... "Dustin" wrote in message ... In this county, we are not zoned nor do we need contractors :) I would rethink that. The need for the contractor has little to do with the law. The concern is that a 300 gallon tank (for example) will weigh in excess of 3000 pounds (US). (water weighs over 8 pounds (US) per gallon, plus filters, substrate, decor) Most frame houses cannot support this kind of weight. If you put in a tank of that size in your home without consulting professional advice, you're going to have a disaster. Dead fish, broken tank, broken house, impromptu swimming pool. I guarantee it. The cost of repairing the damage will be much more than hiring someone who knows what they're doing. |
acrylic Tanks?
Xref: 127.0.0.1 rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants:62908
would this be a problem at all if you put it on the first floor? I've read that all homes have to be spec'd to 1.5lbs/in^2 min, on EVERY floor "WD" wrote in message t.net... "Dustin" wrote in message ... In this county, we are not zoned nor do we need contractors :) I would rethink that. The need for the contractor has little to do with the law. The concern is that a 300 gallon tank (for example) will weigh in excess of 3000 pounds (US). (water weighs over 8 pounds (US) per gallon, plus filters, substrate, decor) Most frame houses cannot support this kind of weight. If you put in a tank of that size in your home without consulting professional advice, you're going to have a disaster. Dead fish, broken tank, broken house, impromptu swimming pool. I guarantee it. The cost of repairing the damage will be much more than hiring someone who knows what they're doing. |
acrylic Tanks?
would this be a problem at all if you put it on the first floor?
Yes, it can be. I've read that all homes have to be spec'd to 1.5lbs/in^2 min, on EVERY floor Even if that's true...that means a 6' by 18" "footprint" will hold less than 2,000 pounds: 72" x 18" = 1296 square inches 1.5 x 1296 = 1944 pounds So, in water alone: 1944 pounds /8.3 pounds per gallon = 234 gallons But...it's not just water alone you have to worry about. There's also the weight of the tank and stand, the gravel, rocks, driftwood, filter, hood, etc. Plus the weight of anyone standing by the tank to watch it. :-) And the real-life situation can be a lot more complicated. The weight won't be distributed evenly over the "footprint." Depending on the stand you get, it will distributed over four or six or eight small feet, or around the edges of the stand. You definitely want the feet to be on the joists, if you have a stand with feet. In sum, I would really save the upstairs for smaller tanks. For the first floor, if you have a slab, you'll probably be okay as long as you don't go crazy. If you have a basement, shore up the first floor from the basement (you can get "instant footings" from Home Depot). And do it *before* you set up the tank. Once the tank is set up and filled, it's too late -- the beams are already deformed. Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
acrylic Tanks?
would this be a problem at all if you put it on the first floor?
Yes, it can be. I've read that all homes have to be spec'd to 1.5lbs/in^2 min, on EVERY floor Even if that's true...that means a 6' by 18" "footprint" will hold less than 2,000 pounds: 72" x 18" = 1296 square inches 1.5 x 1296 = 1944 pounds So, in water alone: 1944 pounds /8.3 pounds per gallon = 234 gallons But...it's not just water alone you have to worry about. There's also the weight of the tank and stand, the gravel, rocks, driftwood, filter, hood, etc. Plus the weight of anyone standing by the tank to watch it. :-) And the real-life situation can be a lot more complicated. The weight won't be distributed evenly over the "footprint." Depending on the stand you get, it will distributed over four or six or eight small feet, or around the edges of the stand. You definitely want the feet to be on the joists, if you have a stand with feet. In sum, I would really save the upstairs for smaller tanks. For the first floor, if you have a slab, you'll probably be okay as long as you don't go crazy. If you have a basement, shore up the first floor from the basement (you can get "instant footings" from Home Depot). And do it *before* you set up the tank. Once the tank is set up and filled, it's too late -- the beams are already deformed. Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
acrylic Tanks?
Anyone have a HUGE tank?
Pics? Have you seen this site: http://www.mr4000.com He's called "Mr. 4000" because he has a 4000 gallon tank! He's also got a more moderate 750 gallon tank. I would also recommend reading this page, however: http://www.cichlid-forum.com/article...ium_weight.php Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
acrylic Tanks?
Anyone have a HUGE tank?
Pics? Have you seen this site: http://www.mr4000.com He's called "Mr. 4000" because he has a 4000 gallon tank! He's also got a more moderate 750 gallon tank. I would also recommend reading this page, however: http://www.cichlid-forum.com/article...ium_weight.php Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
acrylic Tanks?
Thats considering you have a wooden floor w/ crawl space or basement. I was
thinking about putting it on a concrete floor. with a custom built wood / iron stand. "WD" wrote in message t.net... "Dustin" wrote in message ... In this county, we are not zoned nor do we need contractors :) I would rethink that. The need for the contractor has little to do with the law. The concern is that a 300 gallon tank (for example) will weigh in excess of 3000 pounds (US). (water weighs over 8 pounds (US) per gallon, plus filters, substrate, decor) Most frame houses cannot support this kind of weight. If you put in a tank of that size in your home without consulting professional advice, you're going to have a disaster. Dead fish, broken tank, broken house, impromptu swimming pool. I guarantee it. The cost of repairing the damage will be much more than hiring someone who knows what they're doing. |
acrylic Tanks?
Thats considering you have a wooden floor w/ crawl space or basement. I was
thinking about putting it on a concrete floor. with a custom built wood / iron stand. "WD" wrote in message t.net... "Dustin" wrote in message ... In this county, we are not zoned nor do we need contractors :) I would rethink that. The need for the contractor has little to do with the law. The concern is that a 300 gallon tank (for example) will weigh in excess of 3000 pounds (US). (water weighs over 8 pounds (US) per gallon, plus filters, substrate, decor) Most frame houses cannot support this kind of weight. If you put in a tank of that size in your home without consulting professional advice, you're going to have a disaster. Dead fish, broken tank, broken house, impromptu swimming pool. I guarantee it. The cost of repairing the damage will be much more than hiring someone who knows what they're doing. |
acrylic Tanks?
I agree with Leigh here.
I put in 3 *24,000 lb* floor joysts before puttin in the tank. since I have a full basement. Its the strongest point in the house now :) "LeighMo" wrote in message ... would this be a problem at all if you put it on the first floor? Yes, it can be. I've read that all homes have to be spec'd to 1.5lbs/in^2 min, on EVERY floor Even if that's true...that means a 6' by 18" "footprint" will hold less than 2,000 pounds: 72" x 18" = 1296 square inches 1.5 x 1296 = 1944 pounds So, in water alone: 1944 pounds /8.3 pounds per gallon = 234 gallons But...it's not just water alone you have to worry about. There's also the weight of the tank and stand, the gravel, rocks, driftwood, filter, hood, etc. Plus the weight of anyone standing by the tank to watch it. :-) And the real-life situation can be a lot more complicated. The weight won't be distributed evenly over the "footprint." Depending on the stand you get, it will distributed over four or six or eight small feet, or around the edges of the stand. You definitely want the feet to be on the joists, if you have a stand with feet. In sum, I would really save the upstairs for smaller tanks. For the first floor, if you have a slab, you'll probably be okay as long as you don't go crazy. If you have a basement, shore up the first floor from the basement (you can get "instant footings" from Home Depot). And do it *before* you set up the tank. Once the tank is set up and filled, it's too late -- the beams are already deformed. Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
acrylic Tanks?
I agree with Leigh here.
I put in 3 *24,000 lb* floor joysts before puttin in the tank. since I have a full basement. Its the strongest point in the house now :) "LeighMo" wrote in message ... would this be a problem at all if you put it on the first floor? Yes, it can be. I've read that all homes have to be spec'd to 1.5lbs/in^2 min, on EVERY floor Even if that's true...that means a 6' by 18" "footprint" will hold less than 2,000 pounds: 72" x 18" = 1296 square inches 1.5 x 1296 = 1944 pounds So, in water alone: 1944 pounds /8.3 pounds per gallon = 234 gallons But...it's not just water alone you have to worry about. There's also the weight of the tank and stand, the gravel, rocks, driftwood, filter, hood, etc. Plus the weight of anyone standing by the tank to watch it. :-) And the real-life situation can be a lot more complicated. The weight won't be distributed evenly over the "footprint." Depending on the stand you get, it will distributed over four or six or eight small feet, or around the edges of the stand. You definitely want the feet to be on the joists, if you have a stand with feet. In sum, I would really save the upstairs for smaller tanks. For the first floor, if you have a slab, you'll probably be okay as long as you don't go crazy. If you have a basement, shore up the first floor from the basement (you can get "instant footings" from Home Depot). And do it *before* you set up the tank. Once the tank is set up and filled, it's too late -- the beams are already deformed. Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
acrylic Tanks?
oh wow , what are your stats?
My 125 has a running total of 1799.03 right now. And ive only had it a month. Any Pics? Dustin "Christopher" wrote in message ink.net... $3k for a custom setup sounds mighty reasonable to me, I'm up to $2700 on my 125g... (but that includes fish and food and such) "350X_Rider" wrote in message ... Where is the best place to custom order an Acrylic Tank? Guessing Acrylic is the best way to go on large tanks 200+gal? When a friend researched putting a 200+ tank in his house, he had to contract with a builder, for codes, foundation checking, load balancing, structural integrity and other issues... He found that some/alot of contractors know people who "custom install" acrylic tanks per the blue prints from the owners... You might find one such builder/contractor in your area... They can build, install, plumb, run your wires, whatever you need.... but yep, did cost him nearly $3k for a 285gallon tank in his living room... and in his kitchen and in his den... it's a 3 sided tank. it's something like 8feet long, 3feet tall, 4feet wide |
acrylic Tanks?
oh wow , what are your stats?
My 125 has a running total of 1799.03 right now. And ive only had it a month. Any Pics? Dustin "Christopher" wrote in message ink.net... $3k for a custom setup sounds mighty reasonable to me, I'm up to $2700 on my 125g... (but that includes fish and food and such) "350X_Rider" wrote in message ... Where is the best place to custom order an Acrylic Tank? Guessing Acrylic is the best way to go on large tanks 200+gal? When a friend researched putting a 200+ tank in his house, he had to contract with a builder, for codes, foundation checking, load balancing, structural integrity and other issues... He found that some/alot of contractors know people who "custom install" acrylic tanks per the blue prints from the owners... You might find one such builder/contractor in your area... They can build, install, plumb, run your wires, whatever you need.... but yep, did cost him nearly $3k for a 285gallon tank in his living room... and in his kitchen and in his den... it's a 3 sided tank. it's something like 8feet long, 3feet tall, 4feet wide |
acrylic Tanks?
Hes now my HERO :) haha
See the pics where he is swimming in it! WOW :) Very COOL :) "LeighMo" wrote in message ... Anyone have a HUGE tank? Pics? Have you seen this site: http://www.mr4000.com He's called "Mr. 4000" because he has a 4000 gallon tank! He's also got a more moderate 750 gallon tank. I would also recommend reading this page, however: http://www.cichlid-forum.com/article...ium_weight.php Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
acrylic Tanks?
Hes now my HERO :) haha
See the pics where he is swimming in it! WOW :) Very COOL :) "LeighMo" wrote in message ... Anyone have a HUGE tank? Pics? Have you seen this site: http://www.mr4000.com He's called "Mr. 4000" because he has a 4000 gallon tank! He's also got a more moderate 750 gallon tank. I would also recommend reading this page, however: http://www.cichlid-forum.com/article...ium_weight.php Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
acrylic Tanks?
PRICE DATE ITEMS
$ 1,372.88 (fish tank, stand, canopy, lights, heater, pumps, aragonite, buffer, salt, de-chlorinator, bubbler, air stone) $ 171.99 (gravel, 2 rocks, pH kit) $ 151.17 (water scrubber, nets, vacuum, acrylic care stuff, tongs, thermometer, feeding suction cup, magnet wall cleaner) $ 24.86 (surge protector, extension cord, timer, bucket) $ 32.00 (15 starter fish and fish food) $ 80.00 (rocks and suction cups) $ 66.76 (automatic feeder, extra hopper, silicone) $ 49.73 (plants) $ 3.78 (white backing for lights) $ 35.89 (plant fertilizer and 50lbs of gravel) $ 16.74 (butterfly pleco and 3 golden algae eaters) $ 127.66 (2 ballasts, 2 lights, 3 plants, 25 ghost shrimp) $ 2.71 (2 big spherical shaped rocks) $ 4.21 (spotted XL puffer) $ 24.76 (acryllic feeding rod, suction cup for cucumber, hopper for feeder) $ 59.21 (petco supplies: two 18" bubbler bars, food, flora pride) $ 39.99 (second automatic fish feeder) $ 47.79 (25 ghost shrimp, 1 red crab, 1 brazilian sword, spirullina pellets, plankton, 1 year membership to marks aquarium) $ 220.04 (main fish order off of www.aquariumfish.net) $ 3.24 (baby cichlid pellets, sold back 14 red eye tetra) $ 22.26 (2 bamboo shrimp, frozen brine shrimp + spirulina, frozen emerald vegetable mix) $ 31.15 (30 ghost shrimp, half portion of blood worms, ornate bicarb) $ 225.73 (lots of fish food, python sink attachment, 8 bags, 4.8kg carbon, florapride, algae scrapper) $ 23.05 (topaz puffer, 30 ghost shrimp) $ 29.11 2/7/2003 (crushed coral, plants, 30 ghost shrimp) $ 5.20 2/14/2003 (30 ghost shrimp) $ 47.60 2/21/2003 (30 ghost shrimp, anubus, onion rush, actinic 24") thats pretty much everything...if you add it up its actually ~$2900 thats since end of october... water is free for my apartment...the only thing thats not in there is the power bill I have 2 fluval 404 canister filters, a digital thermometer, 2 automatic fish feeders, 6x24" (20W) over the tank, 15lbs of argonite, 130-150lbs of gravel (I forget how much exactly) 80 or so lbs of rocks ohh I also have TONS of fish food I've purchased in bulk from www.drsfostersmith.com (when you buy 2.2lbs of hikari stuff its expensive $30-50) "Dustin" wrote in message ... oh wow , what are your stats? My 125 has a running total of 1799.03 right now. And ive only had it a month. Any Pics? Dustin "Christopher" wrote in message ink.net... $3k for a custom setup sounds mighty reasonable to me, I'm up to $2700 on my 125g... (but that includes fish and food and such) "350X_Rider" wrote in message ... Where is the best place to custom order an Acrylic Tank? Guessing Acrylic is the best way to go on large tanks 200+gal? When a friend researched putting a 200+ tank in his house, he had to contract with a builder, for codes, foundation checking, load balancing, structural integrity and other issues... He found that some/alot of contractors know people who "custom install" acrylic tanks per the blue prints from the owners... You might find one such builder/contractor in your area... They can build, install, plumb, run your wires, whatever you need.... but yep, did cost him nearly $3k for a 285gallon tank in his living room... and in his kitchen and in his den... it's a 3 sided tank. it's something like 8feet long, 3feet tall, 4feet wide |
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