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IRR 11-09-2004 01:56 AM

vivarium ground cover
 
Anyone have any suggestions for an attractive vivarium ground cover and/or
creeping vine? This is a very well lit, high humidity (90%+), high
temperature (80-85 deg. F) setup.



so238 16-09-2004 11:52 PM

IRR wrote:
Anyone have any suggestions for an attractive vivarium ground cover and/or
creeping vine? This is a very well lit, high humidity (90%+), high
temperature (80-85 deg. F) setup.


You're in the right newsgroup! A number of aquarium plants will do well
in such a setting, often as not better than underwater. Dwarf anubias
(A. nana) is up to 2" high, pretty tough-leaved, likes high temp and
very hardy. Bright light not necessary but won't harm. Has a reputation
for growing so slow it drives you mad, but if grown emerged, is much
faster than underwater. I had real good results growing it above water
under the filter return spray. Let it creep up the driftwood, on rocks etc.
Java moss and similar moss-like things should do well. Riccia might need
to have water after all so not so great. Hope it's a good start.

Seb

jaypython 17-09-2004 05:51 PM

hi................what u keeping in your vivarium? ive kept reptiles for
about 10 yrs and depending on what species you are keeping depends on
the type of bottom ground substrate u need.keep me posted.;)



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sophie 17-09-2004 05:59 PM

In message , so238
writes
IRR wrote:
Anyone have any suggestions for an attractive vivarium ground cover and/or
creeping vine? This is a very well lit, high humidity (90%+), high
temperature (80-85 deg. F) setup.

You're in the right newsgroup! A number of aquarium plants will do well
in such a setting, often as not better than underwater. Dwarf anubias
(A. nana) is up to 2" high, pretty tough-leaved, likes high temp and
very hardy. Bright light not necessary but won't harm. Has a reputation
for growing so slow it drives you mad, but if grown emerged, is much
faster than underwater. I had real good results growing it above water
under the filter return spray. Let it creep up the driftwood, on rocks etc.
Java moss and similar moss-like things should do well. Riccia might
need to have water after all so not so great. Hope it's a good start.

Seb


creeping jenny should do well; it's not an aquatic plant (though you can
grow it in aquariums) - the only problem is it might take over.

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sophie

IRR 19-09-2004 09:16 PM

Thanks for the replies so far. Right now all we have (critter-wise) are
some of the "buy by the dozen" feeder fish, to try and get some kind of bio
cycles established. We'd really like to have some lush plant growth going,
and then try to play off of that to establish what sort of reptiles/herps we
might be able to introduce; does that seem like a good way to go?
I hadn't even thought of dwarf anubias, and also am excited to try the java
moss and creeping jenny, at least a few small plants to test things out.
Any other suggestions are welcomed!




"jaypython" -DONTEMAIL wrote in message
...
hi................what u keeping in your vivarium? ive kept reptiles for
about 10 yrs and depending on what species you are keeping depends on
the type of bottom ground substrate u need.keep me posted.;)



--
-RadCliffe-

Posted via CichlidFish.com
http://www.cichlidfish.com/portal/forums




sophie 19-09-2004 10:06 PM

In message , IRR
writes
Thanks for the replies so far. Right now all we have (critter-wise) are
some of the "buy by the dozen" feeder fish, to try and get some kind of bio
cycles established. We'd really like to have some lush plant growth going,
and then try to play off of that to establish what sort of reptiles/herps we
might be able to introduce; does that seem like a good way to go?
I hadn't even thought of dwarf anubias, and also am excited to try the java
moss and creeping jenny, at least a few small plants to test things out.
Any other suggestions are welcomed!


Is this a vivarium or an aquarium? I'm puzzled now! I suggested creeping
jenny thinking it _wouldn't_ be underwater. I do grow it in my aquarium,
but I'm expecting to have to replace it at some point as it isn't
actually an aquatic plant. I have a ridiculous amount of the stuff in my
garden, so replacement isn't a problem, and the goldfish don't eat it,
which is unusual enough for me to be willing to replace it if necessary!




"jaypython" -DONTEMAIL wrote in message
...
hi................what u keeping in your vivarium? ive kept reptiles for
about 10 yrs and depending on what species you are keeping depends on
the type of bottom ground substrate u need.keep me posted.;)



--
-RadCliffe-

Posted via CichlidFish.com
http://www.cichlidfish.com/portal/forums




--
sophie

IRR 21-09-2004 03:53 AM

"sophie" wrote in message
...
In message , IRR
writes
Thanks for the replies so far. Right now all we have (critter-wise) are
some of the "buy by the dozen" feeder fish, to try and get some kind of
bio
cycles established. We'd really like to have some lush plant growth
going,
and then try to play off of that to establish what sort of reptiles/herps
we
might be able to introduce; does that seem like a good way to go?
I hadn't even thought of dwarf anubias, and also am excited to try the
java
moss and creeping jenny, at least a few small plants to test things out.
Any other suggestions are welcomed!


Is this a vivarium or an aquarium? I'm puzzled now! I suggested creeping
jenny thinking it _wouldn't_ be underwater. I do grow it in my aquarium,
but I'm expecting to have to replace it at some point as it isn't actually
an aquatic plant. I have a ridiculous amount of the stuff in my garden, so
replacement isn't a problem, and the goldfish don't eat it, which is
unusual enough for me to be willing to replace it if necessary!


Sorry about that (and sorry about the toppost before!) -- it is basically
both. The tank is a 30G tall that is basically partitioned vertically. The
bottom 6" or so is freshwater (lit from behind through a diffuser), whereas
at about 9" we have a thin (artificial) rock platform that is almost the
same area as the tank, minus a small (5"x5") opening and rock "staircase"
that leads down to the water below. The top partition is where we are
planting, already have a good scaffolding of grapewood and vertical rocks w/
a waterfall. So the short answer is 'both', while hopefully clearing up my
earlier vivarium question!




jaypython 21-09-2004 12:54 PM

..............so its not a vivarium????

:idonno:



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sophie 21-09-2004 03:37 PM

In message , IRR
writes
"sophie" wrote in message
...
In message , IRR
writes
Thanks for the replies so far. Right now all we have (critter-wise) are
some of the "buy by the dozen" feeder fish, to try and get some kind of
bio
cycles established. We'd really like to have some lush plant growth
going,
and then try to play off of that to establish what sort of reptiles/herps
we
might be able to introduce; does that seem like a good way to go?
I hadn't even thought of dwarf anubias, and also am excited to try the
java
moss and creeping jenny, at least a few small plants to test things out.
Any other suggestions are welcomed!


Is this a vivarium or an aquarium? I'm puzzled now! I suggested creeping
jenny thinking it _wouldn't_ be underwater. I do grow it in my aquarium,
but I'm expecting to have to replace it at some point as it isn't actually
an aquatic plant. I have a ridiculous amount of the stuff in my garden, so
replacement isn't a problem, and the goldfish don't eat it, which is
unusual enough for me to be willing to replace it if necessary!


Sorry about that (and sorry about the toppost before!) -- it is basically
both. The tank is a 30G tall that is basically partitioned vertically. The
bottom 6" or so is freshwater (lit from behind through a diffuser), whereas
at about 9" we have a thin (artificial) rock platform that is almost the
same area as the tank, minus a small (5"x5") opening and rock "staircase"
that leads down to the water below. The top partition is where we are
planting, already have a good scaffolding of grapewood and vertical rocks w/
a waterfall. So the short answer is 'both', while hopefully clearing up my
earlier vivarium question!


It sounds lovely. do you have photos?




--
sophie

IRR 23-09-2004 05:56 AM

"sophie" wrote in message
...
In message , IRR
writes
"sophie" wrote in message
...
In message , IRR
writes
Thanks for the replies so far. Right now all we have (critter-wise) are
some of the "buy by the dozen" feeder fish, to try and get some kind of
bio
cycles established. We'd really like to have some lush plant growth
going,
and then try to play off of that to establish what sort of
reptiles/herps
we
might be able to introduce; does that seem like a good way to go?
I hadn't even thought of dwarf anubias, and also am excited to try the
java
moss and creeping jenny, at least a few small plants to test things out.
Any other suggestions are welcomed!

Is this a vivarium or an aquarium? I'm puzzled now! I suggested creeping
jenny thinking it _wouldn't_ be underwater. I do grow it in my aquarium,
but I'm expecting to have to replace it at some point as it isn't
actually
an aquatic plant. I have a ridiculous amount of the stuff in my garden,
so
replacement isn't a problem, and the goldfish don't eat it, which is
unusual enough for me to be willing to replace it if necessary!


Sorry about that (and sorry about the toppost before!) -- it is basically
both. The tank is a 30G tall that is basically partitioned vertically.
The
bottom 6" or so is freshwater (lit from behind through a diffuser),
whereas
at about 9" we have a thin (artificial) rock platform that is almost the
same area as the tank, minus a small (5"x5") opening and rock "staircase"
that leads down to the water below. The top partition is where we are
planting, already have a good scaffolding of grapewood and vertical rocks
w/
a waterfall. So the short answer is 'both', while hopefully clearing up
my
earlier vivarium question!


It sounds lovely. do you have photos?




--
sophie


Thanks Sophie.. as soon as this creeping jenny fills in the brown spots :)
I'll post a link with photos, hopefully garner some more tips from the old
pros here!




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