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new Eheim on established planted tank??
Hello folks,
I've got a 35 gallon established planted tank (various swords and anubias) with a bunch of cardinal tetras, a zebra pleco, 4 clown loaches, and black rubber eel. I've also got an undergravel plate running with 2 mini powerheads. It's been set up for 2 years now along with an aquaclear 300 power filter hanging off the back. Well...the aquaclear has become quite noisy over time so I've decided to upgrade to an eheim cansiter filter (2213 model) which I bought 2 days ago. Since wednesday I've had the eheim set up and I've kept the aquaclear also running so as to keep bacterial buildup present throughout the switchover process. I've got the eheim running with a layer of ceramic rings, a sponge from the aquaclear, followed by 3 new circular eheim sponges and 1 polish sponge. I figured by using one of my aquaclear sponges (I wuz running my aq 300 with 2 sponges and nothing else).....that would kick start bacteria buildup in the eheim. My question now is...how long should I keep the aquaclear running?? Is 2 days enough time for the eheim to get enough bacteria buildup in order to hold the tank on it's own?? Any and all pointers appreciated... thx... Dave |
Dave wrote:
Hello folks, I've got a 35 gallon established planted tank (various swords and anubias) with a bunch of cardinal tetras, a zebra pleco, 4 clown loaches, and black rubber eel. I've also got an undergravel plate running with 2 mini powerheads. It's been set up for 2 years now along with an aquaclear 300 power filter hanging off the back. Well...the aquaclear has become quite noisy over time so I've decided to upgrade to an eheim cansiter filter (2213 model) which I bought 2 days ago. Since wednesday I've had the eheim set up and I've kept the aquaclear also running so as to keep bacterial buildup present throughout the switchover process. I've got the eheim running with a layer of ceramic rings, a sponge from the aquaclear, followed by 3 new circular eheim sponges and 1 polish sponge. I figured by using one of my aquaclear sponges (I wuz running my aq 300 with 2 sponges and nothing else).....that would kick start bacteria buildup in the eheim. My question now is...how long should I keep the aquaclear running?? Is 2 days enough time for the eheim to get enough bacteria buildup in order to hold the tank on it's own?? Any and all pointers appreciated... Get yourself a test kit and use it, they are especially for this situation. For eg what are your nitrate levels and water changes like? This would give you an idea of how well your old filters were keeping on top of waste production. It is very hard to answer without some info like this. For eg if your setup is well over specced there might be not much feedstock available for the new filter with the aquaclear running as well so you would be best off dropping the aquaclear. OTOH if you are only just staying on top of things the eheim should not take longer than say a week, especially with that sponge. Peter -- Add my middle initial to email me. It has become attached to a country |
For what it is worth, you should also have the bacterial colonies living
down in your substrate if you have rock, sand, etc. I would say to go ahead and remove the over-the-back filter and just stick with the canister filter. Over time, the canister will start a bacteria colony pretty quickly especially if there already is some on the substrate. Brian S. "Dave" wrote in message ... Hello folks, I've got a 35 gallon established planted tank (various swords and anubias) with a bunch of cardinal tetras, a zebra pleco, 4 clown loaches, and black rubber eel. I've also got an undergravel plate running with 2 mini powerheads. It's been set up for 2 years now along with an aquaclear 300 power filter hanging off the back. Well...the aquaclear has become quite noisy over time so I've decided to upgrade to an eheim cansiter filter (2213 model) which I bought 2 days ago. Since wednesday I've had the eheim set up and I've kept the aquaclear also running so as to keep bacterial buildup present throughout the switchover process. I've got the eheim running with a layer of ceramic rings, a sponge from the aquaclear, followed by 3 new circular eheim sponges and 1 polish sponge. I figured by using one of my aquaclear sponges (I wuz running my aq 300 with 2 sponges and nothing else).....that would kick start bacteria buildup in the eheim. My question now is...how long should I keep the aquaclear running?? Is 2 days enough time for the eheim to get enough bacteria buildup in order to hold the tank on it's own?? Any and all pointers appreciated... thx... Dave |
I agree... I wouldn't bother leaving both running for more than a day or
two (in my experiences). The filter will begin to get well colonized almost immediately. -- Craig Brye University of Phoenix Online "Brian S." wrote in message news:dzXbd.253423$D%.147947@attbi_s51... For what it is worth, you should also have the bacterial colonies living down in your substrate if you have rock, sand, etc. I would say to go ahead and remove the over-the-back filter and just stick with the canister filter. Over time, the canister will start a bacteria colony pretty quickly especially if there already is some on the substrate. Brian S. "Dave" wrote in message ... Hello folks, I've got a 35 gallon established planted tank (various swords and anubias) with a bunch of cardinal tetras, a zebra pleco, 4 clown loaches, and black rubber eel. I've also got an undergravel plate running with 2 mini powerheads. It's been set up for 2 years now along with an aquaclear 300 power filter hanging off the back. Well...the aquaclear has become quite noisy over time so I've decided to upgrade to an eheim cansiter filter (2213 model) which I bought 2 days ago. Since wednesday I've had the eheim set up and I've kept the aquaclear also running so as to keep bacterial buildup present throughout the switchover process. I've got the eheim running with a layer of ceramic rings, a sponge from the aquaclear, followed by 3 new circular eheim sponges and 1 polish sponge. I figured by using one of my aquaclear sponges (I wuz running my aq 300 with 2 sponges and nothing else).....that would kick start bacteria buildup in the eheim. My question now is...how long should I keep the aquaclear running?? Is 2 days enough time for the eheim to get enough bacteria buildup in order to hold the tank on it's own?? Any and all pointers appreciated... thx... Dave |
"Craig Brye" wrote in message ... I agree... I wouldn't bother leaving both running for more than a day or two (in my experiences). The filter will begin to get well colonized almost immediately. -- Craig Brye University of Phoenix Online "Brian S." wrote in message news:dzXbd.253423$D%.147947@attbi_s51... For what it is worth, you should also have the bacterial colonies living down in your substrate if you have rock, sand, etc. I would say to go ahead and remove the over-the-back filter and just stick with the canister filter. Over time, the canister will start a bacteria colony pretty quickly especially if there already is some on the substrate. Brian S. "Dave" wrote in message ... Hello folks, I've got a 35 gallon established planted tank (various swords and anubias) with a bunch of cardinal tetras, a zebra pleco, 4 clown loaches, and black rubber eel. I've also got an undergravel plate running with 2 mini powerheads. It's been set up for 2 years now along with an aquaclear 300 power filter hanging off the back. Well...the aquaclear has become quite noisy over time so I've decided to upgrade to an eheim cansiter filter (2213 model) which I bought 2 days ago. Since wednesday I've had the eheim set up and I've kept the aquaclear also running so as to keep bacterial buildup present throughout the switchover process. I've got the eheim running with a layer of ceramic rings, a sponge from the aquaclear, followed by 3 new circular eheim sponges and 1 polish sponge. I figured by using one of my aquaclear sponges (I wuz running my aq 300 with 2 sponges and nothing else).....that would kick start bacteria buildup in the eheim. My question now is...how long should I keep the aquaclear running?? Is 2 days enough time for the eheim to get enough bacteria buildup in order to hold the tank on it's own?? Any and all pointers appreciated... thx... Dave Thx for the advice. I've diconnected the aquaclear last night. Everything seems to be fine (and a lot more quiet). Dave - Toronto |
Just be sure to check to Ammonia and Nitrites a couple of times during the
next few days. I've never had a problem doing this, but I would hate to find out that I was just lucky! -- Craig Brye University of Phoenix Online "Dave" wrote in message ... "Craig Brye" wrote in message ... I agree... I wouldn't bother leaving both running for more than a day or two (in my experiences). The filter will begin to get well colonized almost immediately. -- Craig Brye University of Phoenix Online "Brian S." wrote in message news:dzXbd.253423$D%.147947@attbi_s51... For what it is worth, you should also have the bacterial colonies living down in your substrate if you have rock, sand, etc. I would say to go ahead and remove the over-the-back filter and just stick with the canister filter. Over time, the canister will start a bacteria colony pretty quickly especially if there already is some on the substrate. Brian S. "Dave" wrote in message ... Hello folks, I've got a 35 gallon established planted tank (various swords and anubias) with a bunch of cardinal tetras, a zebra pleco, 4 clown loaches, and black rubber eel. I've also got an undergravel plate running with 2 mini powerheads. It's been set up for 2 years now along with an aquaclear 300 power filter hanging off the back. Well...the aquaclear has become quite noisy over time so I've decided to upgrade to an eheim cansiter filter (2213 model) which I bought 2 days ago. Since wednesday I've had the eheim set up and I've kept the aquaclear also running so as to keep bacterial buildup present throughout the switchover process. I've got the eheim running with a layer of ceramic rings, a sponge from the aquaclear, followed by 3 new circular eheim sponges and 1 polish sponge. I figured by using one of my aquaclear sponges (I wuz running my aq 300 with 2 sponges and nothing else).....that would kick start bacteria buildup in the eheim. My question now is...how long should I keep the aquaclear running?? Is 2 days enough time for the eheim to get enough bacteria buildup in order to hold the tank on it's own?? Any and all pointers appreciated... thx... Dave Thx for the advice. I've diconnected the aquaclear last night. Everything seems to be fine (and a lot more quiet). Dave - Toronto |
"Craig Brye" wrote in message
... Just be sure to check to Ammonia and Nitrites a couple of times during the next few days. I've never had a problem doing this, but I would hate to find out that I was just lucky! Actually, I suspect it's *Dave* who would hate to find out that you were just lucky ;-) Cheers, Michi. -- Michi Henning Ph: +61 4 1118-2700 ZeroC, Inc. http://www.zeroc.com |
"Dave" wrote in message ... Hello folks, I've got a 35 gallon established planted tank (various swords and anubias) with a bunch of cardinal tetras, a zebra pleco, 4 clown loaches, and black rubber eel. I've also got an undergravel plate running with 2 mini powerheads. It's been set up for 2 years now along with an aquaclear 300 power filter hanging off the back. Well...the aquaclear has become quite noisy over time so I've decided to upgrade to an eheim cansiter filter (2213 model) which I bought 2 days ago. Since wednesday I've had the eheim set up and I've kept the aquaclear also running so as to keep bacterial buildup present throughout the switchover process. I've got the eheim running with a layer of ceramic rings, a sponge from the aquaclear, followed by 3 new circular eheim sponges and 1 polish sponge. I figured by using one of my aquaclear sponges (I wuz running my aq 300 with 2 sponges and nothing else).....that would kick start bacteria buildup in the eheim. My question now is...how long should I keep the aquaclear running?? Is 2 days enough time for the eheim to get enough bacteria buildup in order to hold the tank on it's own?? Any and all pointers appreciated... Given that you have a UGF running I'd say you can switch it off now. If it was your only filter then I'd give it 2-3 weeks I. |
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