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On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:24:21 -0400, joevan
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:22:42 -0700, charles
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:18:12 -0400, Wolf K
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On 13/10/2010 17:19, Kilgore Trout wrote:
In ,
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Well, that's surprising. MT-Newswatcher usually decodes anything with
no problem.

But Dave Moorman reports he can't see them as images, and he's using
"MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X)"

I see one odd thing, Gravity is adding these lines to the header,
even though I've selected UUENCODE:

Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Precisely. It shouldn't be encoding the images as plain text. The post
should be sent as a two part message: part one a text message (which can
be blank), and part two as a MIME (or UU-)encoded *.jpg file. Gravity
doesn't seem to be doing that. Maybe if you select MIME, Gravity will
send the message correctly. MIME was developed after UUEncode, because
UUEncode is not a good method of encoding binary files. Or so I
understand it.

Gravity can see and download these just fine.


Well, sure, it's the one that's _sending_ these messages in plain text.
Why, I don't know. IMO, there is a standards violation here. We are
(once again) faced with the consequences of freebie-writers ignoring
standards because they "know a better way".

TBird sees:



Just another data point, Forte Agent decodes them without a problem.

I think I said the same thing a while ago.



You may have, I didn't see the post where you mentioned which
newsreader software you were using. I must have missed it somehow.
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In article charles wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:24:21 -0400, joevan
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:22:42 -0700, charles
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:18:12 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 13/10/2010 17:19, Kilgore Trout wrote:
In ,
says...
[...]
Well, that's surprising. MT-Newswatcher usually decodes anything with
no problem.

But Dave Moorman reports he can't see them as images, and he's using
"MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X)"

I see one odd thing, Gravity is adding these lines to the header,
even though I've selected UUENCODE:

Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Precisely. It shouldn't be encoding the images as plain text. The post
should be sent as a two part message: part one a text message (which can
be blank), and part two as a MIME (or UU-)encoded *.jpg file. Gravity
doesn't seem to be doing that. Maybe if you select MIME, Gravity will
send the message correctly. MIME was developed after UUEncode, because
UUEncode is not a good method of encoding binary files. Or so I
understand it.

Gravity can see and download these just fine.


Well, sure, it's the one that's _sending_ these messages in plain text.
Why, I don't know. IMO, there is a standards violation here. We are
(once again) faced with the consequences of freebie-writers ignoring
standards because they "know a better way".

TBird sees:


Just another data point, Forte Agent decodes them without a problem.

I think I said the same thing a while ago.



You may have, I didn't see the post where you mentioned which
newsreader software you were using. I must have missed it somehow.


It's in the headers
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:46:03 -0700, Garrapata
wrote:

In article charles wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:24:21 -0400, joevan
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:22:42 -0700, charles
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:18:12 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 13/10/2010 17:19, Kilgore Trout wrote:
In ,
says...
[...]
Well, that's surprising. MT-Newswatcher usually decodes anything with
no problem.

But Dave Moorman reports he can't see them as images, and he's using
"MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X)"

I see one odd thing, Gravity is adding these lines to the header,
even though I've selected UUENCODE:

Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Precisely. It shouldn't be encoding the images as plain text. The post
should be sent as a two part message: part one a text message (which can
be blank), and part two as a MIME (or UU-)encoded *.jpg file. Gravity
doesn't seem to be doing that. Maybe if you select MIME, Gravity will
send the message correctly. MIME was developed after UUEncode, because
UUEncode is not a good method of encoding binary files. Or so I
understand it.

Gravity can see and download these just fine.


Well, sure, it's the one that's _sending_ these messages in plain text.
Why, I don't know. IMO, there is a standards violation here. We are
(once again) faced with the consequences of freebie-writers ignoring
standards because they "know a better way".

TBird sees:


Just another data point, Forte Agent decodes them without a problem.
I think I said the same thing a while ago.



You may have, I didn't see the post where you mentioned which
newsreader software you were using. I must have missed it somehow.


It's in the headers


I'm one of those people who don't study each header before replying to
a post.
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In article charles wrote:

X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186

On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:46:03 -0700, Garrapata
wrote:

In article charles wrote:


It's in the headers


I'm one of those people who don't study each header before replying to
a post.



I don't either but I use an Agent.ini tweak which displays the poster's
newsreader at the top of the post(usually)
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