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Boxwood Studios 03-01-2006 01:07 AM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
I'm going to retire soon, and I'm going home where I grew up, in
Guthrie. One of the things I want to do--besides teach (I'm a music
teacher)--is gardening. I remember how beautiful both sets of
grandparents' gardens were. I have been collecting seed catalogs for
this purpose.

Problem is, I can't figure out what growing zone Guthrie is in, whether
it's 7a or 6b, since there's a little bump in the chart, just above
Oklahoma City where Guthrie is. (In the Stokes catalog, for example.)

Anyone know about this?

Thanks,
Connie


Travis M. 03-01-2006 01:16 AM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
"Boxwood Studios" wrote in message
oups.com
I'm going to retire soon, and I'm going home where I grew up,
in
Guthrie. One of the things I want to do--besides teach (I'm a
music
teacher)--is gardening. I remember how beautiful both sets of
grandparents' gardens were. I have been collecting seed
catalogs for
this purpose.

Problem is, I can't figure out what growing zone Guthrie is in,
whether it's 7a or 6b, since there's a little bump in the
chart,
just above Oklahoma City where Guthrie is. (In the Stokes
catalog,
for example.)

Anyone know about this?

Thanks,
Connie


This should help: http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/ushzmap.html

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5


Boxwood Studios 03-01-2006 01:29 AM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
That's the problem (thank you for posting the link): but it gives a
reading for Oklahoma City but not for Guthrie.

The zip is 73044; is there someplace I can plug in the zip?

Sorry if I'm not seeing it..

Connie


Anthony B 03-01-2006 01:50 AM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
Connie,
The differences between zones 6b and 7a is minimal. Maybe a 5 degree or so
average winter temperature. This will not make much difference in
survivabilty of your plants. Rthese zones are based on AVERAGE winter
temperatures, so even though somone may be listed as zone 6b, for example,
they may have several zone 7-ish winters in a row.

To make things even more complicated.. the USDA is having to revise their
charts due to global climate changes.

Bottom line... You can grow both zone 6 and zone 7 rated plants with Zone 6
being more ....'surviveable'



"Boxwood Studios" wrote in message
oups.com...
That's the problem (thank you for posting the link): but it gives a
reading for Oklahoma City but not for Guthrie.

The zip is 73044; is there someplace I can plug in the zip?

Sorry if I'm not seeing it..

Connie




Travis M. 03-01-2006 05:36 AM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
"Boxwood Studios" wrote in message
oups.com
That's the problem (thank you for posting the link): but it
gives a
reading for Oklahoma City but not for Guthrie.

The zip is 73044; is there someplace I can plug in the zip?

Sorry if I'm not seeing it..

Connie


Is this better?
http://www.growit.com/bin/USDAZoneMaps.exe?MyState=OK

Or this: http://davesgarden.com/pf/zipbyzip.php?zip=73044

If all else fails I would go conservative and say zone 6. Better
safe than sorry.

Remember this is a minimum temperature rating so if you are
talking about summer annuals it don't really matter.

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5


madgardener 03-01-2006 07:29 AM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
from the looks of what I was able to discern, you are straddling growing
zones 6a and 7a. With the little micro climates you'll have all over your
yard, it will take a couple of seasons before you are able to figure out
just what zone you're in. But since there isn't too much temperature
difference between those, you should find a wide diversity of plants to
grow. I'd say get in touch with the Agricultural department of the largest
college nearest where you're going to settle (from the looks of it, it
appears it will be Oklahoma City) I'd even contact the extension agent for
Guthrie. that will clinch it. Good luck and lets home those wild brush
fires don't deter you from your retirement dream.....
madgardener, up on the ridge, back in Fairy Holler, overlooking English
Mountain in Eastern Tennessee (straddling zone 6b and 7a)
"Boxwood Studios" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm going to retire soon, and I'm going home where I grew up, in
Guthrie. One of the things I want to do--besides teach (I'm a music
teacher)--is gardening. I remember how beautiful both sets of
grandparents' gardens were. I have been collecting seed catalogs for
this purpose.

Problem is, I can't figure out what growing zone Guthrie is in, whether
it's 7a or 6b, since there's a little bump in the chart, just above
Oklahoma City where Guthrie is. (In the Stokes catalog, for example.)

Anyone know about this?

Thanks,
Connie




Boxwood 03-01-2006 02:21 PM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
Thanks Travis, that did help. At
http://images.meredith.com/bhg/pdf/g...s/oklahoma.pdf
it's easy to see where the confusion lies. Logan County has a big
yellow "dip" in it: Zone 6b.


Boxwood 03-01-2006 02:23 PM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
Yeah, those fires are really bad, aren't they. But stuff happens
everywhere. Tornados, floods, hurricanes, earthquakes, no water,
terrorism. There's no place on the planet that's safe, as far as I can
see.


Emery Davis 03-01-2006 08:03 PM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
On 2 Jan 2006 17:07:10 -0800
"Boxwood Studios" wrote:

] I'm going to retire soon, and I'm going home where I grew up, in
] Guthrie. One of the things I want to do--besides teach (I'm a music
] teacher)--is gardening. I remember how beautiful both sets of
] grandparents' gardens were. I have been collecting seed catalogs for
] this purpose.
]
] Problem is, I can't figure out what growing zone Guthrie is in, whether
] it's 7a or 6b, since there's a little bump in the chart, just above
] Oklahoma City where Guthrie is. (In the Stokes catalog, for example.)
]
] Anyone know about this?
]

Hi Connie,

No, I don't really know about your zone. But thought I'd say "hi"
in a different group, anyway. :)

I assume you'll be establishing a new teaching practice, so
how does that count as "retirement?" I can't imagine you'll
be any less invested in the little horrors. :) (meant entirely
lovingly, of course!)

Re the zone, I'd consider it a risk to try zone 6 plants, as
apparently you will be quite close to the fuzzy edge. Although
you will of course learn more about the real micro-climate when
you find a place.

cheers!

-E

--
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Boxwood 03-01-2006 08:30 PM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
Hi Emery! "Retirement" from being on the road. Yeah, it's
interesting that there is a little dip going down from the Zone 7 zone
into the county where Guthrie is, so it's uneven, to say the least. It
occurs to me that we usually visited the grandparents during good
weather, so my memory of the beautiful gardens must have been mainly
during those times.

Cheers,
Connie


Mel M Kelly 03-01-2006 09:25 PM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
Play it safe and go to a local Greenhouse. Don't go the Wal-Mart route
where they start the plants in FL. and they don't care what zone they go
to. GOOD LUCK


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley





Travis M. 03-01-2006 09:25 PM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
"Emery Davis" wrote in message

On 2 Jan 2006 17:07:10 -0800
"Boxwood Studios" wrote:

] I'm going to retire soon, and I'm going home where I grew up,
in
] Guthrie. One of the things I want to do--besides teach (I'm
a
music ] teacher)--is gardening. I remember how beautiful both
sets
of ] grandparents' gardens were. I have been collecting seed
catalogs for ] this purpose.
]
] Problem is, I can't figure out what growing zone Guthrie is
in,
whether ] it's 7a or 6b, since there's a little bump in the
chart,
just above ] Oklahoma City where Guthrie is. (In the Stokes
catalog, for example.) ]
] Anyone know about this?
]

Hi Connie,

No, I don't really know about your zone. But thought I'd say
"hi"
in a different group, anyway. :)

I assume you'll be establishing a new teaching practice, so
how does that count as "retirement?" I can't imagine you'll
be any less invested in the little horrors. :) (meant entirely
lovingly, of course!)

Re the zone, I'd consider it a risk to try zone 6 plants, as
apparently you will be quite close to the fuzzy edge. Although
you will of course learn more about the real micro-climate when
you find a place.

cheers!

-E


If she is on the zone 6/7 border zone 6 plants should be no
problem. The smaller the zone number the colder.

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5


Emery Davis 03-01-2006 11:41 PM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 21:25:27 GMT
"Travis M." wrote:
[]
] If she is on the zone 6/7 border zone 6 plants should be no
] problem. The smaller the zone number the colder.
]

Yes, of course. Pardon the typo, and thanks for the
correction.

-E


--
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Dwayne 04-01-2006 02:22 AM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
I am in Kansas, zone 5, and planted glads on the east side of the house as
annuals. They have come back for two years, and NO they weren't the hardy
glads. I would give it a try as though it was a zone 7.

I know some of the McBane family who came from Guthrie. We were in the
service together in 58 - 63. Then I lost track of him until about 9 years
ago. He lives in Sparks now and we drive past Guthrie at least once a year.
I also have a cousin that ropes out the big arena there.

Dwayne


"Boxwood Studios" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm going to retire soon, and I'm going home where I grew up, in
Guthrie. One of the things I want to do--besides teach (I'm a music
teacher)--is gardening. I remember how beautiful both sets of
grandparents' gardens were. I have been collecting seed catalogs for
this purpose.

Problem is, I can't figure out what growing zone Guthrie is in, whether
it's 7a or 6b, since there's a little bump in the chart, just above
Oklahoma City where Guthrie is. (In the Stokes catalog, for example.)

Anyone know about this?

Thanks,
Connie




J Kolenovsky 04-01-2006 05:08 AM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
Did Guthrie escape the fires?

Boxwood Studios wrote:
I'm going to retire soon, and I'm going home where I grew up, in
Guthrie. One of the things I want to do--besides teach (I'm a music
teacher)--is gardening. I remember how beautiful both sets of
grandparents' gardens were. I have been collecting seed catalogs for
this purpose.

Problem is, I can't figure out what growing zone Guthrie is in, whether
it's 7a or 6b, since there's a little bump in the chart, just above
Oklahoma City where Guthrie is. (In the Stokes catalog, for example.)

Anyone know about this?

Thanks,
Connie


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[email protected] 04-01-2006 03:43 PM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
Did Guthrie escape the fires?

I think it did for the most part; I think there was a house on the
near edge of town that was burned down, unfortunately. Maybe more than
one? I don't know. But not the town proper. No one was killed -- not
humans anyway.


[email protected] 04-01-2006 04:36 PM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
NEWS:

As Oklahoma firefighters extinguished embers near Guthrie, where dozens of homes were damaged by grass fires northeast of Oklahoma City, residents assessed the damage and counted their blessings.


http://newsok.com/article/1723231/?template=home/main
(won't let me copy and paste)

GUTHRIE, Okla. -- Passers-by were able to get an elderly couple out of
their home minutes before it was engulfed by flames from a grass fire.

Gary and Dama Maker were passing by Albert and Wilma Clayton's home in
Guthrie Sunday night when they noticed the couple were inside, there
was no car at the house and a grass fire was spreading across their
lawn.

Albert Clayton, 99, and Wilma Clayton, 87, did not want to leave.

"We told them they had to get out of the house quickly," Dama Maker
said. "It took a lot of convincing. If we had to pick them up and carry
them to the car, we would have."


After they got the couple into the yard, Gary Maker began spraying the
fire with a garden hose, which allowed Dama Maker to coax the Claytons
into the car. Then, a burst of embers from the fire ignited the fence
and, soon after, the house.

"We basically had to trick them to get them into the car and leave
their home," Dama Maker said.

The next morning, the Makers went back to find only charred remains.

Ken Smith, Wilma Clayton's son-in-law, said the couple shopped for some
new clothes on Monday and will eventually progress to house hunting.

"They got out of the house with their two walking canes," Smith said.
"That's all they got out with -- their two canes."


[email protected] 05-01-2006 12:55 PM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
More on Guthrie fires:

http://www.newsok.com/article/1723834/


Newsgroup 06-01-2006 10:20 PM

Gardening zone in Guthrie, Oklahoma
 
Excellent site for this! Thank you!


"Travis M." wrote in message
news:T3ouf.7188$gq4.6822@trndny04...
"Boxwood Studios" wrote in message
oups.com
That's the problem (thank you for posting the link): but it gives a
reading for Oklahoma City but not for Guthrie.

The zip is 73044; is there someplace I can plug in the zip?

Sorry if I'm not seeing it..

Connie


Is this better? http://www.growit.com/bin/USDAZoneMaps.exe?MyState=OK

Or this: http://davesgarden.com/pf/zipbyzip.php?zip=73044

If all else fails I would go conservative and say zone 6. Better safe
than sorry.

Remember this is a minimum temperature rating so if you are talking about
summer annuals it don't really matter.

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5





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