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[email protected] 10-04-2006 01:00 AM

shasta daisies
 
hello,

we're considering putting some shasta daisies up in front of the house.
however, we're unsure how much sun they need. the area gets morning
sun up until about 1pm. is this enough? if not, can someone recommend
another prolific flowering plant that can thrive in this environment
(2ft+)? we're in zone 7.

thanks!


Doug Kanter 10-04-2006 01:09 PM

shasta daisies
 
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hello,

we're considering putting some shasta daisies up in front of the house.
however, we're unsure how much sun they need. the area gets morning
sun up until about 1pm. is this enough? if not, can someone recommend
another prolific flowering plant that can thrive in this environment
(2ft+)? we're in zone 7.

thanks!


Shastas will do fine in that kind of light. As far as others, there are too
many to mention. OK - I'll add one: Daylillies.



[email protected] 10-04-2006 03:29 PM

shasta daisies
 
wrote:
hello,

we're considering putting some shasta daisies up in front of the house.
however, we're unsure how much sun they need. the area gets morning
sun up until about 1pm. is this enough? if not, can someone recommend
another prolific flowering plant that can thrive in this environment
(2ft+)? we're in zone 7.

thanks!


That should be enough sun. Mine only get afternoon sun and they do
very well and I am in zone-6.

My comments:
o They need room. Like 3-ft diameter for each plant
should be OK.
o They die back all the way to the ground in winter.
There is no winter interest.
o I don't like their leaf shape. Too weed-like for my
taste.

I prefer hydrangea better. The leaves in a hydrangea looks MUCH better
than those in a shasta daisy. Its dry branches provide some winter
interest. Hydrangea needs even more room than shasta daisy though --
something like 4-ft to 5-ft diameter of space. We can easily propagate
hydrangea by using cuttings if you like it so much that you want to
plant it all over your garden.

Hope this helps.

Jay Chan


Doug Kanter 11-04-2006 12:32 PM

shasta daisies
 
wrote in message
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thanks for the responses. has anyone ever tried growing them from
seeds? are they relatively fast growing? (e.g. can i expect them to
bloom this season if i were to plant the seeds now?)


Not hard to grow from seed, but I've never seen flowers until the 2nd
season. How many plants do you want to end up with?



[email protected] 11-04-2006 04:00 PM

shasta daisies
 
I would expect on the order of 15-20 of them. they'll be sandwich
between the house and some yews we just planted.


Doug Kanter 11-04-2006 04:06 PM

shasta daisies
 

wrote in message
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I would expect on the order of 15-20 of them. they'll be sandwich
between the house and some yews we just planted.


Well, unless you can get a hot deal on that quantity of year-old plants from
a local nursery, seeds are the way to go. Even with plants, they'll be a
little light on the flowers during the first year. After that, you'll be
inundated.

Another thought: They're nice plants, and almost impossible to kill once
they're established. But, on a 1 to 10 scale of "interesting", I'd say
they're a 6. Every garden needs some plants which don't need a lot of
coddling, and that's one reason for having some shastas. But...15-20 might
be overkill. There are so many other things that'll grow under those same
conditions. Why not mix in some others?



[email protected] 11-04-2006 04:40 PM

shasta daisies
 
wrote:
thanks for the responses. has anyone ever tried growing them from
seeds? are they relatively fast growing? (e.g. can i expect them to
bloom this season if i were to plant the seeds now?)


Yes, they are very easy to grow from seeds. Mine all grow from seeds.

But I didn't know that. I only wanted four. But I planted many just
in case they didn't grow well. I ended up getting way too many, and
had to plant the extras in place that I didn't plan to.

If I remember correctly, they didn't bloom in the first year.

Jay Chan


Doug Kanter 11-04-2006 04:44 PM

shasta daisies
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
wrote:
thanks for the responses. has anyone ever tried growing them from
seeds? are they relatively fast growing? (e.g. can i expect them to
bloom this season if i were to plant the seeds now?)


Yes, they are very easy to grow from seeds. Mine all grow from seeds.

But I didn't know that. I only wanted four. But I planted many just
in case they didn't grow well. I ended up getting way too many, and
had to plant the extras in place that I didn't plan to.

If I remember correctly, they didn't bloom in the first year.

Jay Chan


You're supposed to stop total strangers walking past your house and just
stick extra plants in their hands and then run away. :)



Lynn 13-04-2006 12:19 PM

shasta daisies
 


wrote in message
ups.com...
wrote:
thanks for the responses. has anyone ever tried growing them from
seeds? are they relatively fast growing? (e.g. can i expect them to
bloom this season if i were to plant the seeds now?)


Yes, they are very easy to grow from seeds. Mine all grow from seeds.

But I didn't know that. I only wanted four. But I planted many just
in case they didn't grow well. I ended up getting way too many, and
had to plant the extras in place that I didn't plan to.

If I remember correctly, they didn't bloom in the first year.

Jay Chan


Hi,
So I take it it I should not of planted a package of seeds into 3 little
pots hoping for a nice slightly rounded potted plant to plant outside but
instead of used just one seed per pot?
I figured I would get one flower from one seed and wanted something bushy

:) lynn



Doug Kanter 13-04-2006 12:24 PM

shasta daisies
 

"Lynn" wrote in message
...


wrote in message
ups.com...
wrote:
thanks for the responses. has anyone ever tried growing them from
seeds? are they relatively fast growing? (e.g. can i expect them to
bloom this season if i were to plant the seeds now?)


Yes, they are very easy to grow from seeds. Mine all grow from seeds.

But I didn't know that. I only wanted four. But I planted many just
in case they didn't grow well. I ended up getting way too many, and
had to plant the extras in place that I didn't plan to.

If I remember correctly, they didn't bloom in the first year.

Jay Chan


Hi,
So I take it it I should not of planted a package of seeds into 3 little
pots hoping for a nice slightly rounded potted plant to plant outside but
instead of used just one seed per pot?
I figured I would get one flower from one seed and wanted something bushy

:) lynn


Lynn, didn't you read the instructions on the packet??? Unless you have
seeds which you KNOW have a very high germination rate, or are very large,
you plant two per pot. If both seeds sprout, you wait a few days and then
pinch off one of them.



[email protected] 13-04-2006 05:34 PM

shasta daisies
 
Lynn wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
wrote:
thanks for the responses. has anyone ever tried growing them from
seeds? are they relatively fast growing? (e.g. can i expect them to
bloom this season if i were to plant the seeds now?)


Yes, they are very easy to grow from seeds. Mine all grow from seeds.

But I didn't know that. I only wanted four. But I planted many just
in case they didn't grow well. I ended up getting way too many, and
had to plant the extras in place that I didn't plan to.

If I remember correctly, they didn't bloom in the first year.

Jay Chan


Hi,
So I take it it I should not of planted a package of seeds into 3 little
pots hoping for a nice slightly rounded potted plant to plant outside but
instead of used just one seed per pot?
I figured I would get one flower from one seed and wanted something bushy

:) lynn


I figure you are joking. Anyway, I normally plant 3 seeds in each
pots, and only keep the strongest one.

My impression of shasta daisies is that they are not bushy. They are
kind of wild, leggy, and leave a hole in the middle of the plant.

Jay Chan


Doug Kanter 13-04-2006 05:37 PM

shasta daisies
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Lynn wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
wrote:
thanks for the responses. has anyone ever tried growing them from
seeds? are they relatively fast growing? (e.g. can i expect them to
bloom this season if i were to plant the seeds now?)

Yes, they are very easy to grow from seeds. Mine all grow from seeds.

But I didn't know that. I only wanted four. But I planted many just
in case they didn't grow well. I ended up getting way too many, and
had to plant the extras in place that I didn't plan to.

If I remember correctly, they didn't bloom in the first year.

Jay Chan


Hi,
So I take it it I should not of planted a package of seeds into 3
little
pots hoping for a nice slightly rounded potted plant to plant outside
but
instead of used just one seed per pot?
I figured I would get one flower from one seed and wanted something
bushy

:) lynn


I figure you are joking. Anyway, I normally plant 3 seeds in each
pots, and only keep the strongest one.

My impression of shasta daisies is that they are not bushy. They are
kind of wild, leggy, and leave a hole in the middle of the plant.

Jay Chan


When the center of the clump looks empty, you dig it up, cut the outer rim
into 2 or more pieces, and replant them. Same with daylillies, although
those usually require high explosives to pry into pieces.



Lynn 14-04-2006 03:35 PM

shasta daisies
 


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Lynn" wrote in message
...


wrote in message
ups.com...


Hi,
So I take it it I should not of planted a package of seeds into 3 little
pots hoping for a nice slightly rounded potted plant to plant outside
but instead of used just one seed per pot?
I figured I would get one flower from one seed and wanted something bushy

:) lynn


Lynn, didn't you read the instructions on the packet??? Unless you have
seeds which you KNOW have a very high germination rate, or are very large,
you plant two per pot. If both seeds sprout, you wait a few days and then
pinch off one of them.


LOL apparently not till now, I totally missed the seed spacing on the
instructions.
:) lynn





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