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Poison Ivy
Well, I was vindicated today. For years I have maintained that there
is a 5-leaf version of poison ivy and no-one believed me. Today I pulled up a poison ivy vine by the roots, and found both the standard 3-leaflet sets *and* the 5-leaflet sets on it! And yes, they were from one plant - there was only one small root. Silly me, though, I didn't think to take a photo of it until just now - when it's already met it's fate. Oh well, I'll just have to wait - I'm sure I'll find the (#&%&^% stuff again. Just in case you're curious, the 5-leaflet set looks like the 3-leaflet set, except there are 2 more small leaves on the outside forming a neat circle of leaves. The notches are the same and everything. This version looks verrry like another vine that is called wandering jenny, as I recall. Makes me wonder if they are related. |
Poison Ivy
Ever hear of Virginia Creeper??
"fran" wrote in message ... Well, I was vindicated today. For years I have maintained that there is a 5-leaf version of poison ivy and no-one believed me. Today I pulled up a poison ivy vine by the roots, and found both the standard 3-leaflet sets *and* the 5-leaflet sets on it! And yes, they were from one plant - there was only one small root. Silly me, though, I didn't think to take a photo of it until just now - when it's already met it's fate. Oh well, I'll just have to wait - I'm sure I'll find the (#&%&^% stuff again. Just in case you're curious, the 5-leaflet set looks like the 3-leaflet set, except there are 2 more small leaves on the outside forming a neat circle of leaves. The notches are the same and everything. This version looks verrry like another vine that is called wandering jenny, as I recall. Makes me wonder if they are related. |
Poison Ivy
pixi wrote:
Ever hear of Virginia Creeper?? "fran" wrote in message .. Well, I was vindicated today. For years I have maintained that there is a 5-leaf version of poison ivy and no-one believed me. Today I pulled up a poison ivy vine by the roots, and found both the standard 3-leaflet sets *and* the 5-leaflet sets on it! And yes, they were from one plant - there was only one small root. Silly me, though, I didn't think to take a photo of it until just now - when it's already met it's fate. Oh well, I'll just have to wait - I'm sure I'll find the (#&%&^% stuff again. Just in case you're curious, the 5-leaflet set looks like the 3-leaflet set, except there are 2 more small leaves on the outside forming a neat circle of leaves. The notches are the same and everything. This version looks verrry like another vine that is called wandering jenny, as I recall. Makes me wonder if they are related. There's also Box Elder, a maple, that looks like poison ivy if you get its 3-leaf version, but usually has 5. -- Ron Hardin On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. |
Poison Ivy
In article , fran1234
@volcanomail.com says... :) Well, I was vindicated today. For years I have maintained that there :) is a 5-leaf version of poison ivy and no-one believed me. :) :) Today I pulled up a poison ivy vine by the roots, and found both the :) standard 3-leaflet sets *and* the 5-leaflet sets on it! And yes, they :) were from one plant - there was only one small root. :) :) Silly me, though, I didn't think to take a photo of it until just now :) - when it's already met it's fate. Oh well, I'll just have to wait - :) I'm sure I'll find the (#&%&^% stuff again. :) :) Just in case you're curious, the 5-leaflet set looks like the :) 3-leaflet set, except there are 2 more small leaves on the outside :) forming a neat circle of leaves. The notches are the same and :) everything. This version looks verrry like another vine that is :) called wandering jenny, as I recall. Makes me wonder if they are :) related. :) I've come across poison ivy with a 5 leaflet pattern a couple of times over the years, it's more of a modified leaf of the bottom part of the leaflet that gives it the 5 leaf look, as mentioned in another post box elder saplings look exactly like poison ivy and will have 5 leaf mixed with the 3 leaf pattern, but it will grow more upright and won't have the clinging "hairs" as will the ivy. -- Lar It is said that the early bird gets the worm, but it is the second mouse that gets the cheese. |
Poison Ivy
"fran" wrote in message ... Well, I was vindicated today. For years I have maintained that there is a 5-leaf version of poison ivy and no-one believed me. Today I pulled up a poison ivy vine by the roots, and found both the standard 3-leaflet sets *and* the 5-leaflet sets on it! And yes, they were from one plant - there was only one small root. Silly me, though, I didn't think to take a photo of it until just now - when it's already met it's fate. Oh well, I'll just have to wait - I'm sure I'll find the (#&%&^% stuff again. Just in case you're curious, the 5-leaflet set looks like the 3-leaflet set, except there are 2 more small leaves on the outside forming a neat circle of leaves. The notches are the same and everything. This version looks verrry like another vine that is called wandering jenny, as I recall. Makes me wonder if they are related. virginia creeper |
Poison Ivy
Believe me, it's not Virginia Creeper or Box Elder. This thing had the
standard 3-leaf vine (~2ft long) branching off the 5-leaf vine (~6 inches long). The 5-leaf also had the center leaf with symetrical (sp?) notches and all 4 side leaves with the irregular notches (few on the side closest to the middle, many on the side furthest from the middle). And it was definately 5 seperate leaves. Virginia Creeper has all 5 leaves with identical symetrical notches. pixi wrote: Ever hear of Virginia Creeper?? "fran" wrote in message ... Well, I was vindicated today. For years I have maintained that there is a 5-leaf version of poison ivy and no-one believed me. Today I pulled up a poison ivy vine by the roots, and found both the standard 3-leaflet sets *and* the 5-leaflet sets on it! And yes, they were from one plant - there was only one small root. Silly me, though, I didn't think to take a photo of it until just now - when it's already met it's fate. Oh well, I'll just have to wait - I'm sure I'll find the (#&%&^% stuff again. Just in case you're curious, the 5-leaflet set looks like the 3-leaflet set, except there are 2 more small leaves on the outside forming a neat circle of leaves. The notches are the same and everything. This version looks verrry like another vine that is called wandering jenny, as I recall. Makes me wonder if they are related. |
Poison Ivy
Believe me, it's not Virginia Creeper or Box Elder. This thing had the
standard 3-leaf vine (~2ft long) branching off the 5-leaf vine (~6 inches long). The 5-leaf also had the center leaf with symetrical (sp?) notches and all 4 side leaves with the irregular notches (few on the side closest to the middle, many on the side furthest from the middle). And it was definately 5 seperate leaves. Virginia Creeper has all 5 leaves with identical symetrical notches. pixi wrote: Ever hear of Virginia Creeper?? "fran" wrote in message ... Well, I was vindicated today. For years I have maintained that there is a 5-leaf version of poison ivy and no-one believed me. Today I pulled up a poison ivy vine by the roots, and found both the standard 3-leaflet sets *and* the 5-leaflet sets on it! And yes, they were from one plant - there was only one small root. Silly me, though, I didn't think to take a photo of it until just now - when it's already met it's fate. Oh well, I'll just have to wait - I'm sure I'll find the (#&%&^% stuff again. Just in case you're curious, the 5-leaflet set looks like the 3-leaflet set, except there are 2 more small leaves on the outside forming a neat circle of leaves. The notches are the same and everything. This version looks verrry like another vine that is called wandering jenny, as I recall. Makes me wonder if they are related. |
Poison Ivy
fran wrote: Well, I was vindicated today. For years I have maintained that there is a 5-leaf version of poison ivy and no-one believed me. Today I pulled up a poison ivy vine by the roots, and found both the standard 3-leaflet sets *and* the 5-leaflet sets on it! And yes, they were from one plant - there was only one small root. Silly me, though, I didn't think to take a photo of it until just now - when it's already met it's fate. Oh well, I'll just have to wait - I'm sure I'll find the (#&%&^% stuff again. Just in case you're curious, the 5-leaflet set looks like the 3-leaflet set, except there are 2 more small leaves on the outside forming a neat circle of leaves. The notches are the same and everything. This version looks verrry like another vine that is called wandering jenny, as I recall. Makes me wonder if they are related. OH NO! If it crosses with Virginia Creeper, we'll never get it killed! |
Poison Ivy
Steve wrote:
wrote: Believe me, it's not Virginia Creeper or Box Elder. This thing had the standard 3-leaf vine (~2ft long) branching off the 5-leaf vine (~6 inches long). The 5-leaf also had the center leaf with symetrical (sp?) notches and all 4 side leaves with the irregular notches (few on the side closest to the middle, many on the side furthest from the middle). And it was definately 5 seperate leaves. Like this plant? http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...330152.html?11 Well, I shouldn't have just left it like that. The pictures seem to be Virginia Creeper (I guess) but that first picture appears to fit your description of the notches being fewer on the inside. I could go look closer at the Virginia Creeper in my yard but I recently pulled most of it out (again). I've lived in the Adirondacks for nearly 30 years and I have never seen poison ivy here, though I am told it can be found if you look in just the right places. Steve |
Poison Ivy
In article . com,
says... :) Believe me, it's not Virginia Creeper or Box Elder. This thing had the :) standard 3-leaf vine (~2ft long) branching off the 5-leaf vine (~6 :) inches long). The 5-leaf also had the center leaf with symetrical :) (sp?) notches and all 4 side leaves with the irregular notches (few on :) the side closest to the middle, many on the side furthest from the :) middle). And it was definately 5 seperate leaves. :) :) Virginia Creeper has all 5 leaves with identical symetrical notches. :) :) pixi wrote: :) Ever hear of Virginia Creeper?? :) :) "fran" wrote in message :) ... :) Well, I was vindicated today. For years I have maintained that there :) is a 5-leaf version of poison ivy and no-one believed me. :) :) Today I pulled up a poison ivy vine by the roots, and found both the :) standard 3-leaflet sets *and* the 5-leaflet sets on it! And yes, they :) were from one plant - there was only one small root. :) :) Silly me, though, I didn't think to take a photo of it until just now :) - when it's already met it's fate. Oh well, I'll just have to wait - :) I'm sure I'll find the (#&%&^% stuff again. :) :) Just in case you're curious, the 5-leaflet set looks like the :) 3-leaflet set, except there are 2 more small leaves on the outside :) forming a neat circle of leaves. The notches are the same and :) everything. This version looks verrry like another vine that is :) called wandering jenny, as I recall. Makes me wonder if they are :) related. :) :) Here ya go Fran....found these this morning. http://arrow-pestcontrol.com/PoisonIvy.htm -- Lar -- Lar It is said that the early bird gets the worm, but it is the second mouse that gets the cheese. |
Believe me, it's not Virginia Creeper or Box Elder. This thing had the
standard 3-leaf vine (~2ft long) branching off the 5-leaf vine (~6 inches long). The 5-leaf also had the center leaf with symetrical (sp?) notches and all 4 side leaves with the irregular notches (few on the side closest to the middle, many on the side furthest from the middle). And it was definately 5 seperate leaves. Virginia Creeper has all 5 leaves with identical symetrical notches. pixi wrote: Ever hear of Virginia Creeper?? "fran" wrote in message ... Well, I was vindicated today. For years I have maintained that there is a 5-leaf version of poison ivy and no-one believed me. Today I pulled up a poison ivy vine by the roots, and found both the standard 3-leaflet sets *and* the 5-leaflet sets on it! And yes, they were from one plant - there was only one small root. Silly me, though, I didn't think to take a photo of it until just now - when it's already met it's fate. Oh well, I'll just have to wait - I'm sure I'll find the (#&%&^% stuff again. Just in case you're curious, the 5-leaflet set looks like the 3-leaflet set, except there are 2 more small leaves on the outside forming a neat circle of leaves. The notches are the same and everything. This version looks verrry like another vine that is called wandering jenny, as I recall. Makes me wonder if they are related. http://www.zanfel.com/help/rashfaq.html http://drcribben.wordpress.com/2006/06/21/poison-ivy/ http://nac.tamu.edu/x075bb/caddo/frameidx.html http://extension.unh.edu/FHGEC/docs/poisnivy.htm take a peek at these links and maybe it might clear things up concerning whether there are more than three leaves on poison ivy. cyaaa, sockiescat. |
Poison Ivy
Young VC leaves are often only three leaved.
wrote in message ups.com... Believe me, it's not Virginia Creeper or Box Elder. This thing had the standard 3-leaf vine (~2ft long) branching off the 5-leaf vine (~6 inches long). The 5-leaf also had the center leaf with symetrical (sp?) notches and all 4 side leaves with the irregular notches (few on the side closest to the middle, many on the side furthest from the middle). And it was definately 5 seperate leaves. Virginia Creeper has all 5 leaves with identical symetrical notches. pixi wrote: Ever hear of Virginia Creeper?? "fran" wrote in message ... Well, I was vindicated today. For years I have maintained that there is a 5-leaf version of poison ivy and no-one believed me. Today I pulled up a poison ivy vine by the roots, and found both the standard 3-leaflet sets *and* the 5-leaflet sets on it! And yes, they were from one plant - there was only one small root. Silly me, though, I didn't think to take a photo of it until just now - when it's already met it's fate. Oh well, I'll just have to wait - I'm sure I'll find the (#&%&^% stuff again. Just in case you're curious, the 5-leaflet set looks like the 3-leaflet set, except there are 2 more small leaves on the outside forming a neat circle of leaves. The notches are the same and everything. This version looks verrry like another vine that is called wandering jenny, as I recall. Makes me wonder if they are related. |
Poison Ivy
Yeah, it looked like the second URL. Nasty crap, and it's all over the
place in NC. I have to keep pulling it up or killing it with RoundUp because I'm severely allergic to it. I've gotten to the point I can identify it with just a glance. sockiescat wrote: Believe me, it's not Virginia Creeper or Box Elder. This thing had the standard 3-leaf vine (~2ft long) branching off the 5-leaf vine (~6 inches long). The 5-leaf also had the center leaf with symetrical (sp?) notches and all 4 side leaves with the irregular notches (few on the side closest to the middle, many on the side furthest from the middle). And it was definately 5 seperate leaves. Virginia Creeper has all 5 leaves with identical symetrical notches. pixi wrote: Ever hear of Virginia Creeper?? "fran" wrote in message ... Well, I was vindicated today. For years I have maintained that there is a 5-leaf version of poison ivy and no-one believed me. Today I pulled up a poison ivy vine by the roots, and found both the standard 3-leaflet sets *and* the 5-leaflet sets on it! And yes, they were from one plant - there was only one small root. Silly me, though, I didn't think to take a photo of it until just now - when it's already met it's fate. Oh well, I'll just have to wait - I'm sure I'll find the (#&%&^% stuff again. Just in case you're curious, the 5-leaflet set looks like the 3-leaflet set, except there are 2 more small leaves on the outside forming a neat circle of leaves. The notches are the same and everything. This version looks verrry like another vine that is called wandering jenny, as I recall. Makes me wonder if they are related. http://www.zanfel.com/help/rashfaq.html http://tinyurl.com/oe5fb http://tinyurl.com/ktev7 http://tinyurl.com/efu28 take a peek at these links and maybe it might clear things up concerning whether there are more than three leaves on poison ivy. cyaaa, sockiescat. -- sockiescat |
Poison Ivy
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 01:06:29 GMT, fran
wrote: Well, I was vindicated today. For years I have maintained that there is a 5-leaf version of poison ivy and no-one believed me. Today I pulled up a poison ivy vine by the roots, and found both the standard 3-leaflet sets *and* the 5-leaflet sets on it! And yes, they were from one plant - there was only one small root. Silly me, though, I didn't think to take a photo of it until just now - when it's already met it's fate. Oh well, I'll just have to wait - I'm sure I'll find the (#&%&^% stuff again. Just in case you're curious, the 5-leaflet set looks like the 3-leaflet set, except there are 2 more small leaves on the outside forming a neat circle of leaves. The notches are the same and everything. This version looks verrry like another vine that is called wandering jenny, as I recall. Makes me wonder if they are related. Call me skeptical, I'd want to see it myself to be sure :) Virginia creeper has tendrils, Poison Ivy (PI) has aerial rootlets. Think "hairy rope" when looking for a PI vine. Look up tendrils and then aerial rootlets to see the difference between them. Box Elder (more properly called Ash leave Maple) has opposite leaves. Usually only three leaflets on young trees only 1-2 feet tall. Mature trees have 3-7 leaflets. PI always has **alternate leaves**. Here is some crappy ASCII art. Opposite: | ---|--- | ---|--- | | Alternate: | |--- | ---| | |--- | There are only six other common species with three leaflets and alternate leaves. Poison Oak- questionable if it even differs from PI and should be classified differently. Fragrant Sumac - Could be confused with PI. Cissus - much different. Hoptree - not all that uncommon, but I've only seen it in one particular area by me. Could be confused with PI. Scotch Broom - much different. Bicolor Lespedeza - much different. Most of the common plants that look similar to PI have opposite leaves and can be eliminated quickly with this knowledge from a distance. The shape of the leaves, toothed, smooth, irregular, is meaningless and not a good method for identification of PI. -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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