"Billy Rose" wrote in message
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In article ,
"cat daddy" wrote:

"jangchub" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:58:47 -0400, rachael simpson
wrote:

i could go for the smell..........but agree with others that they
should
find something else to use instead of driving food prices up.

What makes you think food prices will go up because a company, which
most likely uses the oranges to make juice, will use the waste to
supplement petrol?

Fundamentally, I'm against finding ways to keep the internal
combustion
engine going, especially if it involves using food or food by-products.
The
by-products should be composted and returned to the earth, rather than
burned.
Besides the use of citrus waste for animal feed (which may be good or
bad), but will make poultry and cow raisers look for alternatives,
citrus
oil has uses as a bio-friendly cleaner, flavouring, and other uses
listed at
the site below.
I imagine candied lemon peel will cost more, at the very least...

http://www.citrusdepot.biz/applications.html

Direct Solvent Replacement being extremely useful, imo.

This is what happens when you starve out the small farmer and leave a
few agri-businesses controlling food production. It's another turn of
the screw in the closing of the "Commons".

Yessir..... On National Public Radio here yesterday, there was a
discussion of farm subsidies and Big Agribusiness gets 30% of their income
from that corporate welfare program. No mention of that from the current
regime when discussing cutting "entitlement" programs, of course. The little
guy gets squat.

cat daddy wrote:


The little
guy gets squat.



i can certainly vouch for that!

Charlie wrote in message
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:54:20 -0500, "cat daddy"
wrote:


Yessir..... On National Public Radio here yesterday, there was a
discussion of farm subsidies and Big Agribusiness gets 30% of their
income
from that corporate welfare program. No mention of that from the current
regime when discussing cutting "entitlement" programs, of course. The
little
guy gets squat.


Don't know where you came from, but welcome and glad to read 'ya. Maybe
your're an old hand. Another like-minded one, it would seem.

Glad to read you, too. I don't post much anymore, if I ever really did
here. I had to look myself up and apparently I go back to 2002 (and probably
lurked for quite some time before that). Something about Udder Balm and Bag
Balm and Shania Twain rubbing it all over......... Hey, someone was looking
for it and it's makes a gardener's hands soft, too, so it was on-topic.

In article ,
"cat daddy" wrote:

"Billy Rose" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"cat daddy" wrote:

"jangchub" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:58:47 -0400, rachael simpson
wrote:

i could go for the smell..........but agree with others that they
should
find something else to use instead of driving food prices up.

What makes you think food prices will go up because a company, which
most likely uses the oranges to make juice, will use the waste to
supplement petrol?

Fundamentally, I'm against finding ways to keep the internal
combustion
engine going, especially if it involves using food or food by-products.
The
by-products should be composted and returned to the earth, rather than
burned.
Besides the use of citrus waste for animal feed (which may be good or
bad), but will make poultry and cow raisers look for alternatives,
citrus
oil has uses as a bio-friendly cleaner, flavouring, and other uses
listed at
the site below.
I imagine candied lemon peel will cost more, at the very least...

http://www.citrusdepot.biz/applications.html

Direct Solvent Replacement being extremely useful, imo.

This is what happens when you starve out the small farmer and leave a
few agri-businesses controlling food production. It's another turn of
the screw in the closing of the "Commons".

Yessir..... On National Public Radio here yesterday, there was a
discussion of farm subsidies and Big Agribusiness gets 30% of their income
from that corporate welfare program. No mention of that from the current
regime when discussing cutting "entitlement" programs, of course. The little
guy gets squat.

http://farm.ewg.org/farm/region.php?fips=00000

€ $164.7 billion in subsidies 1995-2005.

€ 67 percent of all farmers and ranchers do not collect government
subsidy payments in United States, according to USDA.

€ Among subsidy recipients, ten percent collected 73 percent of all
subsidies amounting to $120.5 billion over 11 years.

€ Recipients in the top 10% averaged $34,190 in annual payments between
1995 and 2005. The bottom 80 percent of the recipients saw only $704 on
average per year.

Small farmers are doing a social service. While Cargill and Archer
Daniel Midlands make us sick with high fructose corn syrup. And it ain't
just the Republicans that have their hands out. They just seem to be the
worst.

Fart for Freedom, Raise a Stink.
--
Billy
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

In article ,
says...
just heard on the 5:30 news that some company is planning on building a
factory in Florida that will produce ethanol from orange peel and other
citric waste.

wonder what that will do to citric prices in the stores.......


My guess is that it won't effect the prices of, say, regular
oranges in supermarkets. Because those oranges won't be diverted
just for the recycling value of the peels.

My guess is that they will get the material from some juice
company.


--
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"Billy Rose" wrote in message
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In article ,
"cat daddy" wrote:


I imagine candied lemon peel will cost more, at the very least...

http://www.citrusdepot.biz/applications.html

Direct Solvent Replacement being extremely useful, imo.

This is what happens when you starve out the small farmer and leave a
few agri-businesses controlling food production. It's another turn of
the screw in the closing of the "Commons".

Yessir..... On National Public Radio here yesterday, there was a
discussion of farm subsidies and Big Agribusiness gets 30% of their
income
from that corporate welfare program. No mention of that from the current
regime when discussing cutting "entitlement" programs, of course. The
little
guy gets squat.

http://farm.ewg.org/farm/region.php?fips=00000

€ $164.7 billion in subsidies 1995-2005.

€ 67 percent of all farmers and ranchers do not collect government
subsidy payments in United States, according to USDA.

€ Among subsidy recipients, ten percent collected 73 percent of all
subsidies amounting to $120.5 billion over 11 years.

€ Recipients in the top 10% averaged $34,190 in annual payments between
1995 and 2005. The bottom 80 percent of the recipients saw only $704 on
average per year.

Small farmers are doing a social service. While Cargill and Archer
Daniel Midlands make us sick with high fructose corn syrup. And it ain't
just the Republicans that have their hands out. They just seem to be the
worst.

Fart for Freedom, Raise a Stink.

It's worse than the above even sounds. And this from 1995....

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-241.html

"At least 43 percent of ADM's annual profits are from products heavily
subsidized or protected by the American government. Moreover, every $1 of
profits earned by ADM's corn sweetener operation costs consumers $10, and
every $1 of profits earned by its ethanol operation costs taxpayers $30."

Charlie wrote in message
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:56:34 -0700, Billy Rose
wrote:


Small farmers are doing a social service. While Cargill and Archer
Daniel Midlands make us sick with high fructose corn syrup. And it ain't
just the Republicans that have their hands out. They just seem to be the
worst.

Fart for Freedom, Raise a Stink.

Well you old killjoy! Here I was trying to imagine what the new old
guy was on about with his post and you go and inject reality into my
daydream!! Thinkin' about gardens and .........never mind again.

Phooo! (oops)

Here ya go, Charlie.....

"Original Udder Balm is an excellent moisturizer for both udders, be they
bovine or otherwise."

Back to dreamin'....