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Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
Received this email few moments ago...thought it would interest some.
News from the House Agriculture Committee FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, July 25, 2007 Media Contacts: April Demert Slayton (202) 225-6872 Scott Kuschmider (202) 225-1496 Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation Agriculture Committee Chairman Collin Peterson issued the following statement today: "Today, the Bush Administration failed rural America and all Americans by threatening to veto the 2007 Farm Bill passed by the House Agriculture Committee. This Farm Bill is supported by a broad spectrum of agriculture, conservation, nutrition and renewable energy advocates. It represents a carefully crafted compromise that includes substantial reforms and new investments in programs that matter, including fruit and vegetable production, nutrition programs, conservation and renewable energy. Our bill implements Country of Origin Labeling, improves food safety, and paves the way for energy independence while preserving the safety net that our farmers and ranchers need. This is not the first time that the Bush Administration has turned its back on American agriculture and rural America. They repeatedly threatened to veto disaster assistance for agriculture, which the Democratic leadership passed this year. The Administration also vigorously opposed the 2002 Farm Bill, which Secretary Johanns and others now praise as 'the right bill at the right time.' Political posturing is par for the course for this Administration, and they have failed to pursue and achieve compromise on any number of issues, including the Farm Bill. The House Agriculture Committee put together a balanced, fiscally responsible Farm Bill, and I am confident that the House of Representatives will stand with us in supporting this important legislation." ### The U.S. House Committee on Agriculture web site http://agriculture.house.gov has additional information on this and other subjects. |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
"rachael simpson" wrote in message ... Received this email few moments ago...thought it would interest some. News from the House Agriculture Committee FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, July 25, 2007 Media Contacts: April Demert Slayton (202) 225-6872 Scott Kuschmider (202) 225-1496 Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation Agriculture Committee Chairman Collin Peterson issued the following statement today: "Today, the Bush Administration failed rural America and all Americans by threatening to veto the 2007 Farm Bill passed by the House Agriculture Committee. This Farm Bill is supported by a broad spectrum of agriculture, conservation, nutrition and renewable energy advocates. It represents a carefully crafted compromise that includes substantial reforms and new investments in programs that matter, including fruit and vegetable production, nutrition programs, conservation and renewable energy. Our bill implements Country of Origin Labeling, improves food safety, and paves the way for energy independence while preserving the safety net that our farmers and ranchers need. And, Dwayne Andreas and family of Archer Daniels Midland couldn't have any of that, now could they? Or, newish CEO Patricia Woertz, formerly of Chevron........ Guess she and the Andreases called up George and Condi and did some 'splainin 'bout had bad that'd be for the "family farmer". |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
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"cat daddy" wrote: "rachael simpson" wrote in message ... Received this email few moments ago...thought it would interest some. News from the House Agriculture Committee FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, July 25, 2007 Media Contacts: April Demert Slayton (202) 225-6872 Scott Kuschmider (202) 225-1496 Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation Agriculture Committee Chairman Collin Peterson issued the following statement today: "Today, the Bush Administration failed rural America and all Americans by threatening to veto the 2007 Farm Bill passed by the House Agriculture Committee. This Farm Bill is supported by a broad spectrum of agriculture, conservation, nutrition and renewable energy advocates. It represents a carefully crafted compromise that includes substantial reforms and new investments in programs that matter, including fruit and vegetable production, nutrition programs, conservation and renewable energy. Our bill implements Country of Origin Labeling, improves food safety, and paves the way for energy independence while preserving the safety net that our farmers and ranchers need. And, Dwayne Andreas and family of Archer Daniels Midland couldn't have any of that, now could they? Or, newish CEO Patricia Woertz, formerly of Chevron........ Guess she and the Andreases called up George and Condi and did some 'splainin 'bout had bad that'd be for the "family farmer". Still wondering where the oil and natural gas are gonna' to come from to grow the corn that is gonna' free us from foreign oil;-) Also been wonderin', if we won the eternal war on terror, Haliburton, Black Water, et al, would have to go home, forget big profits, and find honest work. War came at a good time for Haliburton. Under Cheney's leadership, Halliburton acquired Dresser Industries, Inc. for $7.7 billion in 1998. Halliburton then had to spend $4.17 billion dollars to settle asbestos claims against Dresser Industries. Somehow the debt was limited to subsidiaries of Haliburton, like Kelloge, Brown, and Root which were forced into bankruptcy protection. Looks like Dick has handsomely paid back his debt to the company for his gaff. FB - FFF -- Billy http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and FarmLegislation
at this rate 2007 will be long gone before they settle the farm bill for
this year, yet another release received tonight: News from the House Agriculture Committee FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, July 25, 2007 Media Contacts: April Demert Slayton (202) 225-6872 Scott Kuschmider (202) 225-1496 Agriculture Committee Chairman Collin Peterson Statement on the Ways and Means Committee's Offset to Increase Nutrition Programs in the 2007 Farm Bill "At every turn, the Bush Administration and Republican Leadership have done their best to stall progress on the 2007 Farm Bill. Mischaracterizing the offset that will expand nutrition benefits for working families is just the latest attempt to derail this Farm Bill, despite broad support for the bill from farm, conservation, nutrition, energy, specialty crop and renewable energy groups. Apparently, the Bush Administration and some in the Republican leadership care more about defending the ability of foreign companies to exploit a loophole in the U.S. tax system than they do about supporting the hardworking families and farmers in this country. I hope that they will reconsider their opposition and join us in supporting this Farm Bill that represents a new direction for agriculture policy. ### The U.S. House Committee on Agriculture web site http://agriculture.house.gov has additional information on this and other subjects. |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
"Billy Rose" wrote in message ... In article , "cat daddy" wrote: "rachael simpson" wrote in message ... Received this email few moments ago...thought it would interest some. News from the House Agriculture Committee Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation Agriculture Committee Chairman Collin Peterson issued the following statement today: "Today, the Bush Administration failed rural America and all Americans by threatening to veto the 2007 Farm Bill passed by the House Agriculture Committee. This Farm Bill is supported by a broad spectrum of agriculture, conservation, nutrition and renewable energy advocates. It represents a carefully crafted compromise that includes substantial reforms and new investments in programs that matter, including fruit and vegetable production, nutrition programs, conservation and renewable energy. Our bill implements Country of Origin Labeling, improves food safety, and paves the way for energy independence while preserving the safety net that our farmers and ranchers need. And, Dwayne Andreas and family of Archer Daniels Midland couldn't have any of that, now could they? Or, newish CEO Patricia Woertz, formerly of Chevron........ Guess she and the Andreases called up George and Condi and did some 'splainin 'bout had bad that'd be for the "family farmer". Still wondering where the oil and natural gas are gonna' to come from to grow the corn that is gonna' free us from foreign oil;-) Yep. Too bad there's not an alternative to corporate agribusiness farm practices we could fall back on. Also been wonderin', if we won the eternal war on terror, Haliburton, Black Water, et al, would have to go home, forget big profits, and find honest work. I've read that war profiteering goes back hundreds of years, most times in the same families of scoundrels. That's what they are so desperate to protect. War came at a good time for Haliburton. Under Cheney's leadership, Halliburton acquired Dresser Industries, Inc. for $7.7 billion in 1998. Halliburton then had to spend $4.17 billion dollars to settle asbestos claims against Dresser Industries. Somehow the debt was limited to subsidiaries of Haliburton, like Kelloge, Brown, and Root which were forced into bankruptcy protection. Looks like Dick has handsomely paid back his debt to the company for his gaff. I wish I could invent an imaginary friend to take on all my debts and make 'em go poof..... But, when he wins at blackjack, I get the goodies. I'm just dumb I guess. |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
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"cat daddy" wrote: I wish I could invent an imaginary friend to take on all my debts and make 'em go poof..... But, when he wins at blackjack, I get the goodies. I'm just dumb I guess. I hope I wasn't too general in my meaning. I'm saying from where I'm sitting, it looks like Bush and Co. made up this war. Some ****ed-off Arabs, and I presume many others, are angry at how the IMF and the World Bank have been pillaging there economies. Since the 80s NSA has been vacuuming international telephone calls, not much gets by them ( Body of Secrets by James Bamford). The Twin Towers were the perfect target for this "push back" as Ward Churchill would say. A terrorist (nationalist) attack has been turned into an "Eternal War" against everything that is anti-New American Century and along the way Bush has developed a war in Iraq that he can't win (because he doesn't want to), which keeps the "War Profits" flowing to the very worst of people. That is the concept. The reality is all the dead and broken people that it has taken to fill the Bush bank account. I hope he gets his appropriate judgement from the American people. Pelosi should be off the table. FB (intercourse the *******) - FFF (raise a big stink) -- Billy http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
Let's not forget:
Scooter Libby Cheney forging his home state Gonzoles who doesn't remember anything Guantanamo Abu Graib (sp?) WMD Iran Valeria Plame Seven minutes He doesn't read Drunk daughters Petrol making record profits Enron Halliburton This list is endless. Why is it so amazng tha he'd threaten food and farm legislation? Most farming is done now by huge corporations, not small town farmers. This country has gone astray as a result of this administration and we're hated more than any terrorist was ever hated, across every nation in the history of the world. No shock to read this post about farms. On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:04:58 -0400, rachael simpson wrote: Received this email few moments ago...thought it would interest some. News from the House Agriculture Committee FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, July 25, 2007 Media Contacts: April Demert Slayton (202) 225-6872 Scott Kuschmider (202) 225-1496 Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation Agriculture Committee Chairman Collin Peterson issued the following statement today: "Today, the Bush Administration failed rural America and all Americans by threatening to veto the 2007 Farm Bill passed by the House Agriculture Committee. This Farm Bill is supported by a broad spectrum of agriculture, conservation, nutrition and renewable energy advocates. It represents a carefully crafted compromise that includes substantial reforms and new investments in programs that matter, including fruit and vegetable production, nutrition programs, conservation and renewable energy. Our bill implements Country of Origin Labeling, improves food safety, and paves the way for energy independence while preserving the safety net that our farmers and ranchers need. This is not the first time that the Bush Administration has turned its back on American agriculture and rural America. They repeatedly threatened to veto disaster assistance for agriculture, which the Democratic leadership passed this year. The Administration also vigorously opposed the 2002 Farm Bill, which Secretary Johanns and others now praise as 'the right bill at the right time.' Political posturing is par for the course for this Administration, and they have failed to pursue and achieve compromise on any number of issues, including the Farm Bill. The House Agriculture Committee put together a balanced, fiscally responsible Farm Bill, and I am confident that the House of Representatives will stand with us in supporting this important legislation." ### The U.S. House Committee on Agriculture web site http://agriculture.house.gov has additional information on this and other subjects. |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
"Billy Rose" wrote in message ... In article , "cat daddy" wrote: I wish I could invent an imaginary friend to take on all my debts and make 'em go poof..... But, when he wins at blackjack, I get the goodies. I'm just dumb I guess. I hope I wasn't too general in my meaning. I'm saying from where I'm sitting, it looks like Bush and Co. made up this war. No, you weren't too general, but maybe I was. I can't begin to write the volumes needed, but it's always been this way. I once found great insight into the seeds of the power, corruption, and lies in "A World Lit Only by Fi The Medieval Mind and the Renaissance: Portrait of an Age " by William Manchester. http://www.amazon.com/World-Lit-Only.../dp/0316545562 More contemporary, today's post he http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/ "Smedley Butler Foretold Our Future" "WAR is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious." by Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient: Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC [Retired] written in 1935. Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps and, at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history. More excerpts: http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/ar...risaracket.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler "In 1934 Butler came forward and reported to the U.S. Congress that a group of wealthy pro-nazi industrialists had been plotting to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a right-wing military coup. Even though the congressional investigating committee corroborated most of the specifics of his testimony, no further action was taken." Guess whose granddaddy was a "wealthy pro-nazi industrialist"? [scroll down from the http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/ Prescott Bush and the attempted overthrow of the United States government, a BBC radio documentary "The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression." Some ****ed-off Arabs, and I presume many others, are angry at how the IMF and the World Bank have been pillaging there economies. Since the 80s NSA has been vacuuming international telephone calls, not much gets by them ( Body of Secrets by James Bamford). The Twin Towers were the perfect target for this "push back" as Ward Churchill would say. A terrorist (nationalist) attack has been turned into an "Eternal War" against everything that is anti-New American Century and along the way Bush has developed a war in Iraq that he can't win (because he doesn't want to), which keeps the "War Profits" flowing to the very worst of people. That is the concept. The reality is all the dead and broken people that it has taken to fill the Bush bank account. I hope he gets his appropriate judgement from the American people. Pelosi should be off the table. FB (intercourse the *******) - FFF (raise a big stink) -- Billy http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
and how many of us end up talking to somebody in Timbuktu when we call
companies for information, help with technology... Ingrid On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:03:12 -0700, Billy Rose wrote: Since the 80s NSA has been vacuuming international telephone calls, not much gets by them |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
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Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
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"cat daddy" wrote: "Billy Rose" wrote in message ... In article , "cat daddy" wrote: I wish I could invent an imaginary friend to take on all my debts and make 'em go poof..... But, when he wins at blackjack, I get the goodies. I'm just dumb I guess. I hope I wasn't too general in my meaning. I'm saying from where I'm sitting, it looks like Bush and Co. made up this war. No, you weren't too general, but maybe I was. I can't begin to write the volumes needed, but it's always been this way. I once found great insight into the seeds of the power, corruption, and lies in "A World Lit Only by Fi The Medieval Mind and the Renaissance: Portrait of an Age " by William Manchester. http://www.amazon.com/World-Lit-Only.../dp/0316545562 More contemporary, today's post he http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/ "Smedley Butler Foretold Our Future" "WAR is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious." by Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient: Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC [Retired] written in 1935. Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps and, at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history. More excerpts: http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/ar...risaracket.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler "In 1934 Butler came forward and reported to the U.S. Congress that a group of wealthy pro-nazi industrialists had been plotting to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a right-wing military coup. Even though the congressional investigating committee corroborated most of the specifics of his testimony, no further action was taken." Guess whose granddaddy was a "wealthy pro-nazi industrialist"? [scroll down from the http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/ Prescott Bush and the attempted overthrow of the United States government, a BBC radio documentary "The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression." Some ****ed-off Arabs, and I presume many others, are angry at how the IMF and the World Bank have been pillaging there economies. Since the 80s NSA has been vacuuming international telephone calls, not much gets by them ( Body of Secrets by James Bamford). The Twin Towers were the perfect target for this "push back" as Ward Churchill would say. A terrorist (nationalist) attack has been turned into an "Eternal War" against everything that is anti-New American Century and along the way Bush has developed a war in Iraq that he can't win (because he doesn't want to), which keeps the "War Profits" flowing to the very worst of people. That is the concept. The reality is all the dead and broken people that it has taken to fill the Bush bank account. I hope he gets his appropriate judgement from the American people. Pelosi should be off the table. FB (intercourse the *******) - FFF (raise a big stink) -- Billy http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ It is strange that while technology flourishes and grows, human spirit seems to be returning to the "Middle Ages" and it's reptilian mind. That period when Mediterranean culture lost a thousand years of development, from the fall of Rome in 500 AD to the "Renaissance" in 1500 AD, and only rediscovered it in Arab translations of the Roman and Greek originals. Not that the Arabs didn't contribute with what is now our numbering system, including the concept of zero, the distillation process, troubadours, and the idea of romantic love, to name a few. Reminds me of the Bob Zimmerman lyric about Manhattan where buildings go up to the sky and people go down into the ground. The site: http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/ has me back in the mainstream again. The Smedley book is a good read and only 80 pages long. Listen up "jar-heads", he was a Marine General. Ain't no BS here. Semper fi. Yeah, looks like ol' Prescott's plan is back on the table. They wanted Gen. Smedley to be their front-man but he blew the whistle on them instead. Gen. Smedley spoke in favor of an early payment of a bonus that the veterans of WWI had been promised to them (this was in 1932). His support endeared him to all soldiers. Then Hoover set the dogs (Gen. McArthur and Gen. Patton and their troops on the encampment. You find honest men in the strangest places. Of course no good deed goes unpunished as Gen. Smedley quickly discovered. FB - FFF -- Billy http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
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, Billy Rose wrote: In article , "cat daddy" wrote: "Billy Rose" wrote in message ... In article , "cat daddy" wrote: I wish I could invent an imaginary friend to take on all my debts and make 'em go poof..... But, when he wins at blackjack, I get the goodies. I'm just dumb I guess. I hope I wasn't too general in my meaning. I'm saying from where I'm sitting, it looks like Bush and Co. made up this war. No, you weren't too general, but maybe I was. I can't begin to write the volumes needed, but it's always been this way. I once found great insight into the seeds of the power, corruption, and lies in "A World Lit Only by Fi The Medieval Mind and the Renaissance: Portrait of an Age " by William Manchester. http://www.amazon.com/World-Lit-Only.../dp/0316545562 More contemporary, today's post he http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/ "Smedley Butler Foretold Our Future" "WAR is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious." by Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient: Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC [Retired] written in 1935. Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps and, at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history. More excerpts: http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/ar...risaracket.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler "In 1934 Butler came forward and reported to the U.S. Congress that a group of wealthy pro-nazi industrialists had been plotting to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a right-wing military coup. Even though the congressional investigating committee corroborated most of the specifics of his testimony, no further action was taken." Guess whose granddaddy was a "wealthy pro-nazi industrialist"? [scroll down from the http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/ Prescott Bush and the attempted overthrow of the United States government, a BBC radio documentary "The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression." Some ****ed-off Arabs, and I presume many others, are angry at how the IMF and the World Bank have been pillaging there economies. Since the 80s NSA has been vacuuming international telephone calls, not much gets by them ( Body of Secrets by James Bamford). The Twin Towers were the perfect target for this "push back" as Ward Churchill would say. A terrorist (nationalist) attack has been turned into an "Eternal War" against everything that is anti-New American Century and along the way Bush has developed a war in Iraq that he can't win (because he doesn't want to), which keeps the "War Profits" flowing to the very worst of people. That is the concept. The reality is all the dead and broken people that it has taken to fill the Bush bank account. I hope he gets his appropriate judgement from the American people. Pelosi should be off the table. FB (intercourse the *******) - FFF (raise a big stink) -- Billy http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ It is strange that while technology flourishes and grows, human spirit seems to be returning to the "Middle Ages" and it's reptilian mind. That period when Mediterranean culture lost a thousand years of development, from the fall of Rome in 500 AD to the "Renaissance" in 1500 AD, and only rediscovered it in Arab translations of the Roman and Greek originals. Not that the Arabs didn't contribute with what is now our numbering system, including the concept of zero, the distillation process, troubadours, and the idea of romantic love, to name a few. Reminds me of the Bob Zimmerman lyric about Manhattan where buildings go up to the sky and people go down into the ground. The site: http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/ has me back in the mainstream again. The Smedley book is a good read and only 80 pages long. Listen up "jar-heads", he was a Marine General. Ain't no BS here. Semper fi. Yeah, looks like ol' Prescott's plan is back on the table. They wanted Gen. Smedley to be their front-man but he blew the whistle on them instead. Gen. Smedley spoke in favor of an early payment of a bonus that the veterans of WWI had been promised to them (this was in 1932). His support endeared him to all soldiers. Then Hoover set the dogs (Gen. McArthur and Gen. Patton and their troops on the encampment. You find honest men in the strangest places. Of course no good deed goes unpunished as Gen. Smedley quickly discovered. FB - FFF Thank folks for the interesting info. Smedley on order! http://genealogy.about.com/od/presid...eorge_bush.htm Bill who may not vote for Hillary as this family tradition stuff doesn't sit well. -- S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit. |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
"Billy Rose" wrote in message ... It is strange that while technology flourishes and grows, human spirit seems to be returning to the "Middle Ages" and it's reptilian mind. That period when Mediterranean culture lost a thousand years of development, from the fall of Rome in 500 AD to the "Renaissance" in 1500 AD, and only rediscovered it in Arab translations of the Roman and Greek originals. Not that the Arabs didn't contribute with what is now our numbering system, including the concept of zero, the distillation process, troubadours, and the idea of romantic love, to name a few. Reminds me of the Bob Zimmerman lyric about Manhattan where buildings go up to the sky and people go down into the ground. I'm sure countless civilizations and societies have come and gone, all the while believing they are the epitome of what has gone before and will last forever. Yet, they are gone, and we will go, and it will start all over again. We are capable of much ingenuity, but are still barely out of the caves as a species. All I can hope is that in this time period, we won't damage the planet irreparably so that it can continue. The site: http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/ has me back in the mainstream again. The Smedley book is a good read and only 80 pages long. Listen up "jar-heads", he was a Marine General. Ain't no BS here. Semper fi. Yeah, looks like ol' Prescott's plan is back on the table. They wanted Gen. Smedley to be their front-man but he blew the whistle on them instead. Gen. Smedley spoke in favor of an early payment of a bonus that the veterans of WWI had been promised to them (this was in 1932). His support endeared him to all soldiers. Then Hoover set the dogs (Gen. McArthur and Gen. Patton and their troops on the encampment. You find honest men in the strangest places. Of course no good deed goes unpunished as Gen. Smedley quickly discovered. |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
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"cat daddy" wrote: I'm sure countless civilizations and societies have come and gone, all the while believing they are the epitome of what has gone before and will last forever. Yet, they are gone, and we will go, and it will start all over again. We are capable of much ingenuity, but are still barely out of the caves as a species. All I can hope is that in this time period, we won't damage the planet irreparably so that it can continue. It is embarrassing to think that dinosaurs survived for hundreds of millions of years with their tiny little brains and we will be lucky to just get past 1 million. I guess the real test will be when the nuclear reactor's water gets turned off and they all melt down. I've always heard the the cockroaches would survive. Eventually, with us gone, after a very long time, things will get back to normal. See http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?cha...ID=2691D71 6- E7F2-99DF-38F54EF6075AAB4D FB - FFF -- Billy http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
In article , Charlie wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:34:39 -0700, Billy Rose wrote: The site: http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/ has me back in the mainstream again. OK...where the hell you been recently then? What does this mean? Charlie It means that describing Bush as a "fellationist" has hit main stream. Or have I been watching too much "Deadwood"? Na, I don't think so. FB - FFF -- Billy http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
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Steve wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:22:50 -0500, "cat daddy" wrote: "Billy Rose" wrote in message ... It is strange that while technology flourishes and grows, human spirit seems to be returning to the "Middle Ages" and it's reptilian mind. That period when Mediterranean culture lost a thousand years of development, from the fall of Rome in 500 AD to the "Renaissance" in 1500 AD, and only rediscovered it in Arab translations of the Roman and Greek originals. Not that the Arabs didn't contribute with what is now our numbering system, including the concept of zero, the distillation process, troubadours, and the idea of romantic love, to name a few. Reminds me of the Bob Zimmerman lyric about Manhattan where buildings go up to the sky and people go down into the ground. I'm sure countless civilizations and societies have come and gone, all the while believing they are the epitome of what has gone before and will last forever. Yet, they are gone, and we will go, and it will start all over again. We are capable of much ingenuity, but are still barely out of the caves as a species. All I can hope is that in this time period, we won't damage the planet irreparably so that it can continue. As a civilization America is but teenaged, and we will on occasion act the part. What use in mourning a culture yet to develop into itself? As to planet damage, when she's had enough of us she will dispose of us. It is not the planet that has a tenuous grip on existence. Since someone opened the Dylan door; "And but for the sky there are no fences facing". Pollyanna couldn't have said it better. The sky is the fence and we can't run, and we can't hide from Dr. Strangelove. The only door that is likely to open is marked "entropy". FB - FFF -- Billy http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
Charlie wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:22:50 -0500, "cat daddy" wrote: All I can hope is that in this time period, we won't damage the planet irreparably so that it can continue. And what do you think our chances are that we *haven't* damaged our nest past the point of no return? I'm not being a wiseass, I am serious. I am in a rather "we're screwed" state of mind and wonder if I have lost my perspective, and Hope. I doesn't look good at all, to me. Yet we go on because we must. What else can we do? Sorry for not getting back on this sooner. Other stuff got in the way. And, I can't begin to do justice to the question you pose. But, the history of this planet has had such a mindblowing diversity of life, existing and going extinct for vast ages beyond our comprehension. Humans are just a blip. I have no doubt the planet and many more wondrous lifeforms will exist until the Sun goes nova. It's a shame, with our alleged intellect, that we can't seem to recognize and avoid the petty pitfalls that may not see our species through to the end. But, one thing happened recently that gave me hope, both for us and the species we share this rock with. I was dismayed, as many others, at the decline of the bees. I had only *three* bees this Spring hanging around the oxalis blossoms. I had direct evidence that something really bad was going on. But last week, I went out back and the coralvines were blooming, and they were covered in hundreds of bees. Every day since, I've gone out there just to watch them and hope that they have recovered and overcome whatever it was that happened to them. I read that one reason that Monsanto et. al. doesn't want farmers saving seeds (beyond the obvious profit threat) is that the GMO mods don't last in succeeding generations. Nature tends to slough off our meddling. That makes me feel good. Nature may, in fact, slough off humans sooner rather than later. It's probably what we deserve. But, as long as the bees make it, I'm alright with that...... |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
In article , Charlie wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:08:40 -0500, "cat daddy" wrote: Charlie wrote in message .. . On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:22:50 -0500, "cat daddy" wrote: All I can hope is that in this time period, we won't damage the planet irreparably so that it can continue. And what do you think our chances are that we *haven't* damaged our nest past the point of no return? I'm not being a wiseass, I am serious. I am in a rather "we're screwed" state of mind and wonder if I have lost my perspective, and Hope. I doesn't look good at all, to me. Yet we go on because we must. What else can we do? Sorry for not getting back on this sooner. Other stuff got in the way. And, I can't begin to do justice to the question you pose. But, the history of this planet has had such a mindblowing diversity of life, existing and going extinct for vast ages beyond our comprehension. Humans are just a blip. I have no doubt the planet and many more wondrous lifeforms will exist until the Sun goes nova. It's a shame, with our alleged intellect, that we can't seem to recognize and avoid the petty pitfalls that may not see our species through to the end. But, one thing happened recently that gave me hope, both for us and the species we share this rock with. I was dismayed, as many others, at the decline of the bees. I had only *three* bees this Spring hanging around the oxalis blossoms. I had direct evidence that something really bad was going on. But last week, I went out back and the coralvines were blooming, and they were covered in hundreds of bees. Every day since, I've gone out there just to watch them and hope that they have recovered and overcome whatever it was that happened to them. I read that one reason that Monsanto et. al. doesn't want farmers saving seeds (beyond the obvious profit threat) is that the GMO mods don't last in succeeding generations. Nature tends to slough off our meddling. That makes me feel good. Nature may, in fact, slough off humans sooner rather than later. It's probably what we deserve. But, as long as the bees make it, I'm alright with that...... I wish I could share in your hope, for us anyway, but I fear that hope has been extinguished and replaced with fear of the fate that likely will befall my children and grandchildren. Yet facing this fear, I am coming to acceptance and acting upon it, taking actions that will mitigate some of the dire consequences that I fear. Perhaps it will suffice to provide some measure of safety and comfort for those who follow me. The fittest will survive. And by fittest, I mean the greediest and meanest of our species, those that you already see in power and accumulating "wealth" at whatever cost, even now to the blatant and obvious stealing from the poorest among us in this world. We've had it. The Earth cannot support this continual desire for people to advance, consume, procreate, accumulate, masturbate, etc. Endgame, my friend. The changes have begun. And sadly, *most* Usians (I speak from that perspective, and am saddened that this country has been the leading purveyor of misery and greed) are unaware of how close is the edge of the cliff to which we are blindly racing. Those in power *know* these things to be true. Climate change, and the ensuing famine and other natural disasters will not be avoided. We cannot grow enough corn to fuel our desire for transport. Not and feed ourselves as well. But we can grow enough corn if the world were minus, say, several billion people. The *fittest* among us are simply allowing the poorest of us to die-off, it's happening now. Look at the situations in Africa. Quite a few resources there, eh? Soon as the AIDS "problem" runs it's course, should be easier pickin's. DU should take care of most of the MidEast within a generation or two, and should take care of the costly problem of all those wounded children returning from war, many minus their parts and their sanity. As things worsen, we will become the poorest and our turn shall be upon us. Oil may diminish soon enough to prevent complete global catastropic warming, but it makes little difference, for the end result will be the same. The deaths of billions and a new beginning. Those that survive may find themselves in worse straits than they can imagine. The fittest may need workers, and those who are hungry will sell their birthright for a bowl of pottage. No, I have little hope left for mankind, yet maybe the bees will survive and Gaia will be able to remake herself yet again. Perhaps some of the kinder of us may make it as well, and contribute to a new beginning based upon principles other than what are being espoused by the vocal majority, which is, in truth, the minority. But you know, it is kinda cool to witness this amazing, amazing thing, that such weak stupid creatures, humans, have been able to totally trash and destroy our home in such a short period of time and not even realize that we are the cause our own undoing. Remarkable. Peace and care, Brother, Charlie Heaven brings forth individuals in it's own way. Chinese Philo... Very easy to write but it sort of explains how I got here now whatever wherever that is. Not trying to be cute. Bill whose belief system sort of helps dealing with change. That may change too depending on circumstance. The way things are. Come back to line one as a personal refuge. PS Find your own way or be enslaved by someone else. Courtesy William Blake. Meanwhile our garden is OK and gives great joy. -- S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit. |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
In article , Charlie wrote:
"The earth is not dying. It is being killed, and those killing it have names and addresses." - Utah Phillips Ah, quotin' ol' Uter. Must have seen the starlight on the rails. Well, shit, in five billion years, it will all be over anyway. Kind of embarrassing that we only lasted a measly million years. Dinosaurs did it for hundreds of millions of years. Dey de man. Maybe when the next species gifted(?) with conceptual thought and abstract reasoning finds a fossilized tool, things will happen quicker and better. Avarice and stupidity = Bush. The whacked out religious right is bringing the raptures and Jamestown to your block, enjoy. Enjoy each day as if it were your last. Carp diem. If you get a chance to throw your shoes into the machinery, go for it. You'll find me in my garden. -- FB - FFF Billy http://angryarab.blogspot.com/ |
Bush Administration Threatens to Veto Bipartisan Food and Farm Legislation
In article , Charlie wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:09:49 -0400, William Wagner wrote: Heaven brings forth individuals in it's own way. Chinese Philo... Very easy to write but it sort of explains how I got here now whatever wherever that is. Not trying to be cute. Bill whose belief system sort of helps dealing with change. That may change too depending on circumstance. The way things are. Come back to line one as a personal refuge. PS Find your own way or be enslaved by someone else. Courtesy William Blake. Meanwhile our garden is OK and gives great joy. Thank you Bill. These words had an effect upon me that I can't quite explain. I *felt* them and they "caused" something. Something I haven't felt for a long time. Been in my head for several hours now. There is peace and acceptance in those words, and a relinquishing of control? A sense that all is as it should be? I don't understand, yet I feel them to be true. Your whole post centered me or something. The sun has just set and the magical hour is upon us. Back to the garden I now go. I feel ok about things at the moment. Charlie....seeking to find my own way On a more serious note and I do watch Yahoo Serious. http://www.csmngt.com/laughter_the_best_medicine.htm Bill -- S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit. |
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