Just a head's up for anyone interested....

Rae
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NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Deer hunting could be a dangerous endeavor
for men with heart disease or risk factors for it, research findings
suggest.

In a study of 25 middle-aged male deer hunters, researchers found that
the activities inherent to hunting -- like walking over rough terrain,
shooting an animal and dragging its carcass -- sent the men's heart
rates up significantly.

In some cases, this led to potentially dangerous heart-rhythm
disturbances, or diminished oxygen supply to the heart.

Of the 25 hunters, 17 had established coronary heart disease, while the
rest had risk factors such as being overweight, smoking or having high
blood pressure or cholesterol.

The findings suggest that for men like these, hunting could boost the
risk of heart attack or cardiac arrest.

Susan Haapaniemi and colleagues at William Beaumont Hospital in Royal
Oaks, Michigan, report the findings in the American Journal of Cardiology.

For the study, the researchers outfitted each man with a portable
monitor that continuously recorded his heart's electrical activity
during a day of deer hunting. For comparison, the men also had their
hearts monitored as they exercised on a treadmill on a separate day.

In general, the researchers found, deer hunting put the men's hearts
under more strain than the treadmill did. Ten men exceeded the maximum
heart rate they logged on the treadmill, and several showed potentially
dangerous heart responses to hunting that they did not show during the
treadmill test.

Three men had signs of impeded blood flow to the heart during hunting,
but not on the treadmill. Similarly, three of the men with heart disease
had heart-rhythm abnormalities while hunting that did not show up on the
treadmill test.

The combination of physical exertion, adrenaline rush and the stress of
rough terrain and cold weather may explain the "excessive cardiac
demands" seen with hunting, according to Haapaniemi's team.

What's more, they point out, most of the men in the study were taking
part in an exercise program to treat their heart disease, or were
regularly physically active. Hunting could be an even greater strain on
the heart in men who are usually sedentary, the researchers note.

SOURCE: American Journal of Cardiology, July 15, 2007.

rachael simpson wrote:
Just a head's up for anyone interested....

Rae
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NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Deer hunting could be a dangerous endeavor
for men with heart disease or risk factors for it, research findings
suggest.

In a study of 25 middle-aged male deer hunters, researchers found that
the activities inherent to hunting -- like walking over rough terrain,
shooting an animal and dragging its carcass -- sent the men's heart
rates up significantly.

Nothing new to me. My heart gets a thumpin' whenever I have bambi in my
sights
Frank

"rachael simpson" wrote in message
...
Just a head's up for anyone interested....

Rae
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NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Deer hunting could be a dangerous endeavor for
men with heart disease or risk factors for it, research findings suggest.

In a study of 25 middle-aged male deer hunters, researchers found that the
activities inherent to hunting -- like walking over rough terrain,
shooting an animal and dragging its carcass -- sent the men's heart rates
up significantly.

In some cases, this led to potentially dangerous heart-rhythm
disturbances, or diminished oxygen supply to the heart.

Of the 25 hunters, 17 had established coronary heart disease, while the
rest had risk factors such as being overweight, smoking or having high
blood pressure or cholesterol.

The findings suggest that for men like these, hunting could boost the risk
of heart attack or cardiac arrest.

Susan Haapaniemi and colleagues at William Beaumont Hospital in Royal
Oaks, Michigan, report the findings in the American Journal of Cardiology.

For the study, the researchers outfitted each man with a portable monitor
that continuously recorded his heart's electrical activity during a day of
deer hunting. For comparison, the men also had their hearts monitored as
they exercised on a treadmill on a separate day.

In general, the researchers found, deer hunting put the men's hearts under
more strain than the treadmill did. Ten men exceeded the maximum heart
rate they logged on the treadmill, and several showed potentially
dangerous heart responses to hunting that they did not show during the
treadmill test.

Three men had signs of impeded blood flow to the heart during hunting, but
not on the treadmill. Similarly, three of the men with heart disease had
heart-rhythm abnormalities while hunting that did not show up on the
treadmill test.

The combination of physical exertion, adrenaline rush and the stress of
rough terrain and cold weather may explain the "excessive cardiac demands"
seen with hunting, according to Haapaniemi's team.

What's more, they point out, most of the men in the study were taking part
in an exercise program to treat their heart disease, or were regularly
physically active. Hunting could be an even greater strain on the heart in
men who are usually sedentary, the researchers note.

SOURCE: American Journal of Cardiology, July 15, 2007.

Have to agree this would be a problem for anyone out of shape. As would any
other strenuous exercise similar to it. Some "honey do"s can do the same
thing.

But, I've found just listening to your body signs is enough to know when to
stop or slow down. But, I guess, that's just me.
Dave

"rachael simpson" wrote in message
...
Just a head's up for anyone interested....

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Deer hunting could be a dangerous endeavor for
men with heart disease or risk factors for it, research findings suggest.
~snipped~
SOURCE: American Journal of Cardiology, July 15, 2007.

There's about a dozen major triggers for heart attacks established by
Harvard Medical School*. I figure this particular "in depth scientific
study" was done by somebody who wanted to write off a free hunting trip all
in the name of research. Having lived and hunted (deer, elk, bear, moose,
cougar) in prime Montana/Idaho mountain country; these "twenty five
subjects" sound like the big city desk jockies I saw who showed up in the
fall to pay out a few grand for a week's worth of guided Daniel Boone
fantasies to mount a dead animal on their wall to serve no other purpose
than bragging rights.

*from HARVARD HEALTH PUBLICATIONS
Harvard Medical School

Waking from sleep. Long before you wake up, your body prepares for a new day
by trickling stress hormones into the bloodstream. They signal small blood
vessels to constrict, make your heart beat faster, and begin boosting your
blood pressure from its sleep-time low. This activity ensures adequate blood
flow through your blood vessels by the time you are ready to get out of bed.
It's no coincidence that cardiovascular problems peak between 6 a.m. and
noon. The slight dehydration that occurs during sleep may contribute to this
early morning peak, as may the overnight fade in protection from blood
pressure drugs and other heart medicines.

Heavy physical exertion. Shoveling snow, lifting heavy objects, running, and
other types of strenuous physical activity can trigger heart attacks,
strokes, and cardiac arrests. Don't take this as a reason to stop
exercising. In fact, the opposite is true - exertion is much less likely to
cause trouble in people who exercise regularly than in those who don't.

Anger. A furious argument or gut-churning anger can provoke a heart attack,
stroke, or cardiac arrest. In two large studies, a bout of anger increased
the chances of having a heart attack between ninefold and 14-fold over a
two-hour period following the anger-provoking event. A study presented at
last year's American Heart Association meeting showed that anger often
preceded shocks from implanted cardioverter-defibrillators, pacemaker-like
devices used to halt potentially deadly, fast or chaotic heart rhythms.

Natural disasters and war. Heart attacks and cardiac arrests spiked abruptly
on the day of the early-morning earthquake in Northridge, Calif., in 1994.
Israeli researchers saw spikes in heart attacks during the first week of
Iraqi missile attacks in 1991, while New Jersey researchers found a 49%
increase in heart attacks within a 50-mile radius of the World Trade Center
immediately after the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

Weather. Severe heat waves, such as the ones that struck Europe in 2003 or
the Midwest in 1995, increase heart-related deaths. Cold weather triggers
cardiovascular problems, too - in the United States, deaths from heart
disease peak in December and January.

Air pollution. Breathing air full of tiny particles from car, bus, and truck
tailpipes and fuel-burning factories or electricity generators is a trigger
for heart attack and stroke.

Infections. Pneumonia, the flu, and upper respiratory infections are potent
triggers for stroke and heart attack. Urinary tract infections have also
been linked to strokes.

Sexual activity. Sexual activity briefly raises heart attack risk. Sex with
a new partner in an unfamiliar setting increases the risk more than sex with
a familiar partner in a familiar setting.

Overeating. A heavy meal, especially one that is chock-full of saturated fat
or carbohydrates, can raise the risk of having a heart attack by temporarily
making blood more likely to clot, interfering with blood vessels' ability to
relax and contract, or increasing the heart rate and release of stress
hormones.

Other triggers. These include grief, lack of sleep, mental and work-related
stress, the use of cocaine and other "recreational" drugs, holidays, and
sporting events (like the World Cup) if your team loses.

BTW, there have been many studies done that show that avid gardeners are
healthier, both physically. emotionally and mentally than their non
gardening counterparts. I take this to mean us gardening folk will live long
and not be crazy, eccentric and a little quirky perhaps, but seldom
certifiable.

Val

"Val" wrote in message
...

"rachael simpson" wrote in message
...
Just a head's up for anyone interested....

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Deer hunting could be a dangerous endeavor
for men with heart disease or risk factors for it, research findings
suggest.
~snipped~
SOURCE: American Journal of Cardiology, July 15, 2007.

There's about a dozen major triggers for heart attacks established by
Harvard Medical School*. I figure this particular "in depth scientific
study" was done by somebody who wanted to write off a free hunting trip
all in the name of research. Having lived and hunted (deer, elk, bear,
moose, cougar) in prime Montana/Idaho mountain country; these "twenty five
subjects" sound like the big city desk jockies I saw who showed up in the
fall to pay out a few grand for a week's worth of guided Daniel Boone
fantasies to mount a dead animal on their wall to serve no other purpose
than bragging rights.

I can't see deer hunting being a particularly strenuous an activity. You
have to haul the gear into the bush, but that's not all that much really -
depends on the REAL reason for hunting. Some people take it more like a
vacation, others see it as a day trip, others a need to get food to sustain
themselves and their family. A guy hunting out of need isn't going to pack
100 lbs of gear and 2 half-racks of beer. Once you bag one you have to haul
it back out - but deer's don't weigh that much and its not tough to rig up a
travois or skid pan to aid you.

Now Elk hunting can get strenuous - just pulling it out.



*from HARVARD HEALTH PUBLICATIONS
Harvard Medical School

Waking from sleep. Long before you wake up, your body prepares for a new
day by trickling stress hormones into the bloodstream. They signal small
blood vessels to constrict, make your heart beat faster, and begin
boosting your blood pressure from its sleep-time low. This activity
ensures adequate blood flow through your blood vessels by the time you are
ready to get out of bed. It's no coincidence that cardiovascular problems
peak between 6 a.m. and noon. The slight dehydration that occurs during
sleep may contribute to this early morning peak, as may the overnight fade
in protection from blood pressure drugs and other heart medicines.

Heavy physical exertion. Shoveling snow, lifting heavy objects, running,
and other types of strenuous physical activity can trigger heart attacks,
strokes, and cardiac arrests. Don't take this as a reason to stop
exercising. In fact, the opposite is true - exertion is much less likely
to cause trouble in people who exercise regularly than in those who don't.

Anger. A furious argument or gut-churning anger can provoke a heart
attack, stroke, or cardiac arrest. In two large studies, a bout of anger
increased the chances of having a heart attack between ninefold and
14-fold over a two-hour period following the anger-provoking event. A
study presented at last year's American Heart Association meeting showed
that anger often preceded shocks from implanted
cardioverter-defibrillators, pacemaker-like devices used to halt
potentially deadly, fast or chaotic heart rhythms.

Natural disasters and war. Heart attacks and cardiac arrests spiked
abruptly on the day of the early-morning earthquake in Northridge, Calif.,
in 1994. Israeli researchers saw spikes in heart attacks during the first
week of Iraqi missile attacks in 1991, while New Jersey researchers found
a 49% increase in heart attacks within a 50-mile radius of the World Trade
Center immediately after the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

Weather. Severe heat waves, such as the ones that struck Europe in 2003 or
the Midwest in 1995, increase heart-related deaths. Cold weather triggers
cardiovascular problems, too - in the United States, deaths from heart
disease peak in December and January.

Air pollution. Breathing air full of tiny particles from car, bus, and
truck tailpipes and fuel-burning factories or electricity generators is a
trigger for heart attack and stroke.

Infections. Pneumonia, the flu, and upper respiratory infections are
potent triggers for stroke and heart attack. Urinary tract infections have
also been linked to strokes.

Sexual activity. Sexual activity briefly raises heart attack risk. Sex
with a new partner in an unfamiliar setting increases the risk more than
sex with a familiar partner in a familiar setting.

Overeating. A heavy meal, especially one that is chock-full of saturated
fat or carbohydrates, can raise the risk of having a heart attack by
temporarily making blood more likely to clot, interfering with blood
vessels' ability to relax and contract, or increasing the heart rate and
release of stress hormones.

Other triggers. These include grief, lack of sleep, mental and
work-related stress, the use of cocaine and other "recreational" drugs,
holidays, and sporting events (like the World Cup) if your team loses.

BTW, there have been many studies done that show that avid gardeners are
healthier, both physically. emotionally and mentally than their non
gardening counterparts. I take this to mean us gardening folk will live
long and not be crazy, eccentric and a little quirky perhaps, but seldom
certifiable.

Val

In article ,
"Val" wrote:

"rachael simpson" wrote in message
...
Just a head's up for anyone interested....

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Deer hunting could be a dangerous endeavor for
men with heart disease or risk factors for it, research findings suggest.
~snipped~
SOURCE: American Journal of Cardiology, July 15, 2007.

There's about a dozen major triggers for heart attacks established by
Harvard Medical School*. I figure this particular "in depth scientific
study" was done by somebody who wanted to write off a free hunting trip all
in the name of research. Having lived and hunted (deer, elk, bear, moose,
cougar) in prime Montana/Idaho mountain country; these "twenty five
subjects" sound like the big city desk jockies I saw who showed up in the
fall to pay out a few grand for a week's worth of guided Daniel Boone
fantasies to mount a dead animal on their wall to serve no other purpose
than bragging rights.

*from HARVARD HEALTH PUBLICATIONS
Harvard Medical School

Waking from sleep. Long before you wake up, your body prepares for a new day
by trickling stress hormones into the bloodstream. They signal small blood
vessels to constrict, make your heart beat faster, and begin boosting your
blood pressure from its sleep-time low. This activity ensures adequate blood
flow through your blood vessels by the time you are ready to get out of bed.
It's no coincidence that cardiovascular problems peak between 6 a.m. and
noon. The slight dehydration that occurs during sleep may contribute to this
early morning peak, as may the overnight fade in protection from blood
pressure drugs and other heart medicines.

Heavy physical exertion. Shoveling snow, lifting heavy objects, running, and
other types of strenuous physical activity can trigger heart attacks,
strokes, and cardiac arrests. Don't take this as a reason to stop
exercising. In fact, the opposite is true - exertion is much less likely to
cause trouble in people who exercise regularly than in those who don't.

Anger. A furious argument or gut-churning anger can provoke a heart attack,
stroke, or cardiac arrest. In two large studies, a bout of anger increased
the chances of having a heart attack between ninefold and 14-fold over a
two-hour period following the anger-provoking event. A study presented at
last year's American Heart Association meeting showed that anger often
preceded shocks from implanted cardioverter-defibrillators, pacemaker-like
devices used to halt potentially deadly, fast or chaotic heart rhythms.

Natural disasters and war. Heart attacks and cardiac arrests spiked abruptly
on the day of the early-morning earthquake in Northridge, Calif., in 1994.
Israeli researchers saw spikes in heart attacks during the first week of
Iraqi missile attacks in 1991, while New Jersey researchers found a 49%
increase in heart attacks within a 50-mile radius of the World Trade Center
immediately after the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

Weather. Severe heat waves, such as the ones that struck Europe in 2003 or
the Midwest in 1995, increase heart-related deaths. Cold weather triggers
cardiovascular problems, too - in the United States, deaths from heart
disease peak in December and January.

Air pollution. Breathing air full of tiny particles from car, bus, and truck
tailpipes and fuel-burning factories or electricity generators is a trigger
for heart attack and stroke.

Infections. Pneumonia, the flu, and upper respiratory infections are potent
triggers for stroke and heart attack. Urinary tract infections have also
been linked to strokes.

Sexual activity. Sexual activity briefly raises heart attack risk. Sex with
a new partner in an unfamiliar setting increases the risk more than sex with
a familiar partner in a familiar setting.

Overeating. A heavy meal, especially one that is chock-full of saturated fat
or carbohydrates, can raise the risk of having a heart attack by temporarily
making blood more likely to clot, interfering with blood vessels' ability to
relax and contract, or increasing the heart rate and release of stress
hormones.

Other triggers. These include grief, lack of sleep, mental and work-related
stress, the use of cocaine and other "recreational" drugs, holidays, and
sporting events (like the World Cup) if your team loses.

BTW, there have been many studies done that show that avid gardeners are
healthier, both physically. emotionally and mentally than their non
gardening counterparts.
..................

I take this to mean us gardening folk will live long
and not be crazy, eccentric and a little quirky perhaps, but seldom
certifiable.

I hope so!

Bill

.............
Serious deer hunting in S jersey USA usually involves hunting clubs.
I was never in a club but know a bit about how it works. Young members
are drivers that walk miles making noise towards the standards older
folks not inclined to shoot anything that moves. I was a driver in 1964.

Of course there are folks that climb tree stands and just wait.
Sounds easy but those folks have been known to fall asleep and break
their necks even with a low pulse rate.

--

S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade

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"rachael simpson" wrote in message
...
Just a head's up for anyone interested....

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Deer hunting could be a dangerous endeavor
for men with heart disease or risk factors for it, research findings
suggest.
~snipped~
SOURCE: American Journal of Cardiology, July 15, 2007.

There's about a dozen major triggers for heart attacks established by
Harvard Medical School*. I figure this particular "in depth scientific
study" was done by somebody who wanted to write off a free hunting trip
all in the name of research. Having lived and hunted (deer, elk, bear,
moose, cougar) in prime Montana/Idaho mountain country; these "twenty five
subjects" sound like the big city desk jockies I saw who showed up in the
fall to pay out a few grand for a week's worth of guided Daniel Boone
fantasies to mount a dead animal on their wall to serve no other purpose
than bragging rights.

I can't see deer hunting being a particularly strenuous an activity. You
have to haul the gear into the bush, but that's not all that much really -
depends on the REAL reason for hunting. Some people take it more like a
vacation, others see it as a day trip, others a need to get food to sustain
themselves and their family. A guy hunting out of need isn't going to pack
100 lbs of gear and 2 half-racks of beer. Once you bag one you have to haul
it back out - but deer's don't weigh that much and its not tough to rig up a
travois or skid pan to aid you.

Now Elk hunting can get strenuous - just pulling it out.



*from HARVARD HEALTH PUBLICATIONS
Harvard Medical School

Waking from sleep. Long before you wake up, your body prepares for a new
day by trickling stress hormones into the bloodstream. They signal small
blood vessels to constrict, make your heart beat faster, and begin
boosting your blood pressure from its sleep-time low. This activity
ensures adequate blood flow through your blood vessels by the time you are
ready to get out of bed. It's no coincidence that cardiovascular problems
peak between 6 a.m. and noon. The slight dehydration that occurs during
sleep may contribute to this early morning peak, as may the overnight fade
in protection from blood pressure drugs and other heart medicines.

Heavy physical exertion. Shoveling snow, lifting heavy objects, running,
and other types of strenuous physical activity can trigger heart attacks,
strokes, and cardiac arrests. Don't take this as a reason to stop
exercising. In fact, the opposite is true - exertion is much less likely
to cause trouble in people who exercise regularly than in those who don't.

Anger. A furious argument or gut-churning anger can provoke a heart
attack, stroke, or cardiac arrest. In two large studies, a bout of anger
increased the chances of having a heart attack between ninefold and
14-fold over a two-hour period following the anger-provoking event. A
study presented at last year's American Heart Association meeting showed
that anger often preceded shocks from implanted
cardioverter-defibrillators, pacemaker-like devices used to halt
potentially deadly, fast or chaotic heart rhythms.

Natural disasters and war. Heart attacks and cardiac arrests spiked
abruptly on the day of the early-morning earthquake in Northridge, Calif.,
in 1994. Israeli researchers saw spikes in heart attacks during the first
week of Iraqi missile attacks in 1991, while New Jersey researchers found
a 49% increase in heart attacks within a 50-mile radius of the World Trade
Center immediately after the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

Weather. Severe heat waves, such as the ones that struck Europe in 2003 or
the Midwest in 1995, increase heart-related deaths. Cold weather triggers
cardiovascular problems, too - in the United States, deaths from heart
disease peak in December and January.

Air pollution. Breathing air full of tiny particles from car, bus, and
truck tailpipes and fuel-burning factories or electricity generators is a
trigger for heart attack and stroke.

Infections. Pneumonia, the flu, and upper respiratory infections are
potent triggers for stroke and heart attack. Urinary tract infections have
also been linked to strokes.

Sexual activity. Sexual activity briefly raises heart attack risk. Sex
with a new partner in an unfamiliar setting increases the risk more than
sex with a familiar partner in a familiar setting.

Overeating. A heavy meal, especially one that is chock-full of saturated
fat or carbohydrates, can raise the risk of having a heart attack by
temporarily making blood more likely to clot, interfering with blood
vessels' ability to relax and contract, or increasing the heart rate and
release of stress hormones.

Other triggers. These include grief, lack of sleep, mental and
work-related stress, the use of cocaine and other "recreational" drugs,
holidays, and sporting events (like the World Cup) if your team loses.

BTW, there have been many studies done that show that avid gardeners are
healthier, both physically. emotionally and mentally than their non
gardening counterparts. I take this to mean us gardening folk will live
long and not be crazy, eccentric and a little quirky perhaps, but seldom
certifiable.

Val

I usually get a young, dry doe around three or four hundred yards from
the house. Then I come back, get the tractor and bring her back in
the loader.
As a young man in WY,CO, ID,WA, and MT, I used to run all over hell to
get the winter's ration of deer, elk, and (best of all) antelope.
Don't do that anymore.

cheers

oz, who always observed the prime directive in elk hunting: NEVER HUNT
DOWNHILL

Well just send the young and healthy hunters over here to Indiana. We
have so many deer they should be able to get a dozen each and we would
still have a bunch of car deer wrecks. Not to mention what the damb
things eat.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley





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Mel M Kelly wrote:
Well just send the young and healthy hunters over here to Indiana. We
have so many deer they should be able to get a dozen each and we would
still have a bunch of car deer wrecks. Not to mention what the damb
things eat.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley





http://community.webtv.net/MelKelly/TheKids


Honestly, I just thought it was crazy that some would work themselves up
so over deer hunting...

Although, my brother-in-law is one of them...

Rae