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Charles[_1_] 26-08-2007 09:31 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
I have a pond, so they can get water there if they're thirsty. there
are flowers all around, so they can get nectar.

this one insisted on drinking from my Coke can.

glad I heard her before I drank her.

Peter[_3_] 27-08-2007 09:03 AM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 

"Charles" wrote in message
...
I have a pond, so they can get water there if they're thirsty. there
are flowers all around, so they can get nectar.
this one insisted on drinking from my Coke can.
glad I heard her before I drank her.


All that chemical soup... perhaps it was trying to commit suicide?

As Willy Shake wrote..

"To bee or not to bee?"



enigma 27-08-2007 12:48 PM

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Charles wrote in
:

I have a pond, so they can get water there if they're
thirsty. there are flowers all around, so they can get
nectar.

this one insisted on drinking from my Coke can.


then it wasn't a BEE, it was a yellowjacket.

it's not that hard to tell the difference, since they don't
look at all alike.
lee

Cheryl Isaak 27-08-2007 01:38 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
On 8/27/07 7:48 AM, in article ,
"enigma" wrote:

Charles wrote in
:

I have a pond, so they can get water there if they're
thirsty. there are flowers all around, so they can get
nectar.

this one insisted on drinking from my Coke can.


then it wasn't a BEE, it was a yellowjacket.

it's not that hard to tell the difference, since they don't
look at all alike.
lee


Hee Lee, how's your summer been?

Actually, I've had mason and bumble bees investigate sweet drinks. Not
often, but it has happened at least twice. It was sweet mint tea, not a
cola...
C


Charles[_1_] 27-08-2007 05:29 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:48:43 +0000 (UTC), enigma
wrote:

Charles wrote in
:

I have a pond, so they can get water there if they're
thirsty. there are flowers all around, so they can get
nectar.

this one insisted on drinking from my Coke can.


then it wasn't a BEE, it was a yellowjacket.

it's not that hard to tell the difference, since they don't
look at all alike.
lee



I know the difference, I've tangled with yellowjackets way too many
times.

loonyhiker 27-08-2007 06:44 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
You were lucky! I didn't notice one time and it stung me right on the
lip. Not that I was so beautiful before, but the fat lip really looked
awful as I met parents of my students at the first football game of
the season! LOL


Peter[_3_] 27-08-2007 06:48 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 

"Charles" wrote in message
...

I know the difference, I've tangled with yellowjackets way too many
times.


Does "yellowjacket" mean "wasp"?



Charles[_1_] 27-08-2007 07:30 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:48:27 +0100, "Peter" wrote:


"Charles" wrote in message
.. .

I know the difference, I've tangled with yellowjackets way too many
times.


Does "yellowjacket" mean "wasp"?



Not to me, I think of paperwasps as wasps. Technically yellowjackets
may be wasps, but I dislike them more (the yellowjackets). I got
stung way too many times while I worked in the woods, two or three
times a week I'd kick up a ground nest.

Charles[_1_] 27-08-2007 07:31 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:44:31 -0700, loonyhiker
wrote:

You were lucky! I didn't notice one time and it stung me right on the
lip. Not that I was so beautiful before, but the fat lip really looked
awful as I met parents of my students at the first football game of
the season! LOL



I was imagining getting stung in the throat. I'm not allergic, but I
do swell from stings, it can make breathing difficult.

Ann 28-08-2007 12:38 AM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
enigma expounded:

Charles wrote in
:

I have a pond, so they can get water there if they're
thirsty. there are flowers all around, so they can get
nectar.

this one insisted on drinking from my Coke can.


then it wasn't a BEE, it was a yellowjacket.

it's not that hard to tell the difference, since they don't
look at all alike.
lee


Believe it or not, I've seen honeybees go for diet coke cans! Yes,
they do visit soda cans, but not as much as yellowjackets do.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

Charles[_1_] 28-08-2007 01:01 AM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:31:12 GMT, Charles
wrote:

I have a pond, so they can get water there if they're thirsty. there
are flowers all around, so they can get nectar.

this one insisted on drinking from my Coke can.

glad I heard her before I drank her.



Addendum. I had turned the Coke can upside down, but it tipped and
the Coke ran out. I checked later and the bee was not in the can, nor
was it on the ground. So it may have tasted the dust, but it didn't
bite it, which is good, we need bees. Just not in my drink.

enigma 28-08-2007 02:49 AM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
Cheryl Isaak wrote in
:

Hee Lee, how's your summer been?


busy. i bought a place in upstate NY, mostly for summer use by
the SO's family. it has a nice veggie garden spot ;) oh, and
black currents! i was really surprised & delighted to find
them.
i need to redo my upper garden. i think it'll be an herb
garden, but with a lilac because i'm not moving the poor thing
*again*.
how's your summer?

Actually, I've had mason and bumble bees investigate sweet
drinks. Not often, but it has happened at least twice. It
was sweet mint tea, not a cola...


late August is when the yellowjackets go into overdrive
trying to store sweets & protein for winter (even though they
don't winter over well in New England). while the masons &
bumbles might investigate, those yellowjackets are staking a
claim & they love sodapop. it's good for baiting wasp traps
this time of year (whereas something stinky, like catfood,
works better in early summer)
lee

enigma 28-08-2007 02:49 AM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
"Peter" wrote in :


"Charles" wrote in message
...

I know the difference, I've tangled with yellowjackets way
too many times.


Does "yellowjacket" mean "wasp"?


it's a type of wasp
lee

Cheryl Isaak 28-08-2007 02:14 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
On 8/27/07 9:49 PM, in article ,
"enigma" wrote:

Cheryl Isaak wrote in
:

Hee Lee, how's your summer been?


busy. i bought a place in upstate NY, mostly for summer use by
the SO's family. it has a nice veggie garden spot ;) oh, and
black currents! i was really surprised & delighted to find
them.

Sounds nice!
i need to redo my upper garden. i think it'll be an herb
garden, but with a lilac because i'm not moving the poor thing
*again*.

Need chives! LOL
how's your summer?

Long form or short form
Short form - summer from hell. DS broke his leg, needed surgery (3 screws
stay put, one comes out in a month). I cut my left index finger, needed nine
stitches, still having issues with the scar.

Actually, I've had mason and bumble bees investigate sweet
drinks. Not often, but it has happened at least twice. It
was sweet mint tea, not a cola...


late August is when the yellowjackets go into overdrive
trying to store sweets & protein for winter (even though they
don't winter over well in New England). while the masons &
bumbles might investigate, those yellowjackets are staking a
claim & they love sodapop. it's good for baiting wasp traps
this time of year (whereas something stinky, like catfood,
works better in early summer)
lee


I hate yellow jackets. They are just nasty to be nasty.

Cheryl


enigma 28-08-2007 05:25 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
Cheryl Isaak wrote in
:

On 8/27/07 9:49 PM, in article
, "enigma"
wrote:


busy. i bought a place in upstate NY, mostly for summer
use by the SO's family. it has a nice veggie garden spot
;) oh, and black currents! i was really surprised &
delighted to find them.


Sounds nice!


the ban on black currents was recently (3 years ago i think)
repealed in NY. i was surprised to find them growing wild. i'm
going to try starting some from seed. if they grow i'll
probably take them back to NY though. NH isn't so enlightened
about currents yet. i'm a big fan of currents, black or red
(i've not seen white ones yet)

i need to redo my upper garden. i think it'll be an herb
garden, but with a lilac because i'm not moving the poor
thing *again*.


Need chives! LOL


hah! chives are a weed (or is that a groundcover... g).
Boo is really into herbs & gardening. he was totally smitten
by the herballist at the Renaissance faire. he was spending
all his allowance on herb plants & dried herbs and wanted to
spend all day hanging out at her booth.

how's your summer?


Long form or short form
Short form - summer from hell. DS broke his leg, needed
surgery (3 screws stay put, one comes out in a month). I
cut my left index finger, needed nine stitches, still
having issues with the scar.


index finger cuts suck! have you tried putting vitamin E oil
on the scar tissue?
how did your son break his leg? that sounds like a pretty bad
green stick break!

I hate yellow jackets. They are just nasty to be nasty.


yup. especially in August. i had an arborial nest under the
porch on year. i thought it was paper wasps so i left it
alone... until August when they started stinging me when i was
hanging laundry 10 or more feet away from the nest.
my skunk is missing this year so i expect we'll be finding
huge ground nests soon. he was 5 years old so i guess he died
of old age. he used to hang out in the chicken barn & eat with
the barn cats. he did a great job eating yellowjacket nests.
lee

Cheryl Isaak 28-08-2007 08:09 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
On 8/28/07 12:25 PM, in article
, "enigma"
wrote:

Cheryl Isaak wrote in
:

On 8/27/07 9:49 PM, in article
, "enigma"
wrote:


busy. i bought a place in upstate NY, mostly for summer
use by the SO's family. it has a nice veggie garden spot
;) oh, and black currents! i was really surprised &
delighted to find them.


Sounds nice!


the ban on black currents was recently (3 years ago i think)
repealed in NY. i was surprised to find them growing wild. i'm
going to try starting some from seed. if they grow i'll
probably take them back to NY though. NH isn't so enlightened
about currents yet. i'm a big fan of currents, black or red
(i've not seen white ones yet)

I love currents. Interestingly, the "ornamental" ones are just fine

i need to redo my upper garden. i think it'll be an herb
garden, but with a lilac because i'm not moving the poor
thing *again*.


Need chives! LOL


hah! chives are a weed (or is that a groundcover... g).
Boo is really into herbs & gardening. he was totally smitten
by the herballist at the Renaissance faire. he was spending
all his allowance on herb plants & dried herbs and wanted to
spend all day hanging out at her booth.

how's your summer?


Long form or short form
Short form - summer from hell. DS broke his leg, needed
surgery (3 screws stay put, one comes out in a month). I
cut my left index finger, needed nine stitches, still
having issues with the scar.


index finger cuts suck! have you tried putting vitamin E oil
on the scar tissue?
how did your son break his leg? that sounds like a pretty bad
green stick break!

It was no green stick - remember he's 15 and 6 feet. It was a "spiral"
fracture

I hate yellow jackets. They are just nasty to be nasty.


yup. especially in August. i had an arborial nest under the
porch on year. i thought it was paper wasps so i left it
alone... until August when they started stinging me when i was
hanging laundry 10 or more feet away from the nest.
my skunk is missing this year so i expect we'll be finding
huge ground nests soon. he was 5 years old so i guess he died
of old age. he used to hang out in the chicken barn & eat with
the barn cats. he did a great job eating yellowjacket nests.
lee

Ah a good reason for skunks


thistletoes 28-08-2007 08:50 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
On Aug 28, 9:25 am, enigma wrote:
Cheryl Isaak wrote :

On 8/27/07 9:49 PM, in article
, "enigma"
wrote:
busy. i bought a place in upstate NY, mostly for summer
use by the SO's family. it has a nice veggie garden spot
;) oh, and black currents! i was really surprised &
delighted to find them.

Sounds nice!


the ban on black currents was recently (3 years ago i think)
repealed in NY. i was surprised to find them growing wild. i'm
going to try starting some from seed. if they grow i'll
probably take them back to NY though. NH isn't so enlightened
about currents yet. i'm a big fan of currents, black or red
(i've not seen white ones yet)

i need to redo my upper garden. i think it'll be an herb
garden, but with a lilac because i'm not moving the poor
thing *again*.

Need chives! LOL


hah! chives are a weed (or is that a groundcover... g).
Boo is really into herbs & gardening. he was totally smitten
by the herballist at the Renaissance faire. he was spending
all his allowance on herb plants & dried herbs and wanted to
spend all day hanging out at her booth.

how's your summer?

Long form or short form
Short form - summer from hell. DS broke his leg, needed
surgery (3 screws stay put, one comes out in a month). I
cut my left index finger, needed nine stitches, still
having issues with the scar.


index finger cuts suck! have you tried putting vitamin E oil
on the scar tissue?
how did your son break his leg? that sounds like a pretty bad
green stick break!

I hate yellow jackets. They are just nasty to be nasty.


yup. especially in August. i had an arborial nest under the
porch on year. i thought it was paper wasps so i left it
alone... until August when they started stinging me when i was
hanging laundry 10 or more feet away from the nest.
my skunk is missing this year so i expect we'll be finding
huge ground nests soon. he was 5 years old so i guess he died
of old age. he used to hang out in the chicken barn & eat with
the barn cats. he did a great job eating yellowjacket nests.
lee


In case anyone is interested, unseasoned meat tenderizer, applied as
soon as possible to the stung area - which you liberally moisten with
water first - takes away pain and digests the venom. I've used this
remedy on my family for 40 years, but I never was stung by a wasp till
just this week. I ran in the house, wet my hand, sprinkled on the
meat tenderizer which has sat in mu cupboard most of my married life,
and in just a few minutes, the searing pain left and my hand was
neither swelled nor red.
Deb


Cheryl Isaak 28-08-2007 09:08 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
On 8/28/07 3:50 PM, in article
, "thistletoes"
wrote:
snip

In case anyone is interested, unseasoned meat tenderizer, applied as
soon as possible to the stung area - which you liberally moisten with
water first - takes away pain and digests the venom. I've used this
remedy on my family for 40 years, but I never was stung by a wasp till
just this week. I ran in the house, wet my hand, sprinkled on the
meat tenderizer which has sat in mu cupboard most of my married life,
and in just a few minutes, the searing pain left and my hand was
neither swelled nor red.
Deb

I've used baking soda with equal success. Both are in the hiking emergency
kit.

C


Ann 28-08-2007 10:43 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
Cheryl Isaak expounded:

On 8/28/07 3:50 PM, in article
.com, "thistletoes"
wrote:
snip

In case anyone is interested, unseasoned meat tenderizer, applied as
soon as possible to the stung area - which you liberally moisten with
water first - takes away pain and digests the venom. I've used this
remedy on my family for 40 years, but I never was stung by a wasp till
just this week. I ran in the house, wet my hand, sprinkled on the
meat tenderizer which has sat in mu cupboard most of my married life,
and in just a few minutes, the searing pain left and my hand was
neither swelled nor red.
Deb

I've used baking soda with equal success. Both are in the hiking emergency
kit.

C


If there is plantain around (the weed, not the banana G), chew up a
leaf and apply it to the sting. Beeks all over have recommended this
method. I haven't been stung recently, so I haven't tried it.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

William Wagner[_2_] 28-08-2007 11:00 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
In article ,
Ann wrote:

Cheryl Isaak expounded:

On 8/28/07 3:50 PM, in article
.com, "thistletoes"
wrote:
snip

In case anyone is interested, unseasoned meat tenderizer, applied as
soon as possible to the stung area - which you liberally moisten with
water first - takes away pain and digests the venom. I've used this
remedy on my family for 40 years, but I never was stung by a wasp till
just this week. I ran in the house, wet my hand, sprinkled on the
meat tenderizer which has sat in mu cupboard most of my married life,
and in just a few minutes, the searing pain left and my hand was
neither swelled nor red.
Deb

I've used baking soda with equal success. Both are in the hiking emergency
kit.

C


If there is plantain around (the weed, not the banana G), chew up a
leaf and apply it to the sting. Beeks all over have recommended this
method. I haven't been stung recently, so I haven't tried it.


The underside is for drawing and the top side is for healing. Plantain
likes to grow on my driveway.

We have used it under regular band aids for a long time.

Just a suggestion......Swedish lore.

Bill

--

S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade

This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with
Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational
and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit.

http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid


raeannsimpson 28-08-2007 11:21 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
On Aug 28, 6:00 pm, William Wagner wrote:
In article ,





Ann wrote:
Cheryl Isaak expounded:


On 8/28/07 3:50 PM, in article
.com, "thistletoes"
wrote:
snip


In case anyone is interested, unseasoned meat tenderizer, applied as
soon as possible to the stung area - which you liberally moisten with
water first - takes away pain and digests the venom. I've used this
remedy on my family for 40 years, but I never was stung by a wasp till
just this week. I ran in the house, wet my hand, sprinkled on the
meat tenderizer which has sat in mu cupboard most of my married life,
and in just a few minutes, the searing pain left and my hand was
neither swelled nor red.
Deb


I've used baking soda with equal success. Both are in the hiking emergency
kit.


C


If there is plantain around (the weed, not the banana G), chew up a
leaf and apply it to the sting. Beeks all over have recommended this
method. I haven't been stung recently, so I haven't tried it.


The underside is for drawing and the top side is for healing. Plantain
likes to grow on my driveway.

We have used it under regular band aids for a long time.

Just a suggestion......Swedish lore.

Bill

--

S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade

This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with
Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational
and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit.

http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid- Hide quoted text -

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hey y'all,

tobacco &/or tobacco juice works in that department as well.....

rae


Seahag 29-08-2007 03:09 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 

"raeannsimpson" wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:00 pm, William Wagner
wrote:

Ann wrote:
Cheryl Isaak expounded:


wrote:
In case anyone is interested, unseasoned meat
tenderizer, applied as
soon as possible to the stung area - which you
liberally moisten with
water first - takes away pain and digests the venom.
I've used this
remedy on my family for 40 years, but I never was
stung by a wasp till
just this week. I ran in the house, wet my hand,
sprinkled on the
meat tenderizer which has sat in mu cupboard most of
my married life,
and in just a few minutes, the searing pain left and
my hand was
neither swelled nor red.


I've used baking soda with equal success. Both are in
the hiking emergency
kit.


If there is plantain around (the weed, not the banana
G), chew up a
leaf and apply it to the sting. Beeks all over have
recommended this
method. I haven't been stung recently, so I haven't
tried it.


The underside is for drawing and the top side is for
healing. Plantain
likes to grow on my driveway.

We have used it under regular band aids for a long time.

Just a suggestion......Swedish lore.

hey y'all,

tobacco &/or tobacco juice works in that department as
well.....


So does raw onion.

Seahag



Leon Fisk 29-08-2007 09:06 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:08:55 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
wrote:

On 8/28/07 3:50 PM, in article
.com, "thistletoes"
wrote:
snip

In case anyone is interested, unseasoned meat tenderizer, applied as
soon as possible to the stung area - which you liberally moisten with
water first - takes away pain and digests the venom. I've used this
remedy on my family for 40 years, but I never was stung by a wasp till
just this week. I ran in the house, wet my hand, sprinkled on the
meat tenderizer which has sat in mu cupboard most of my married life,
and in just a few minutes, the searing pain left and my hand was
neither swelled nor red.
Deb

I've used baking soda with equal success. Both are in the hiking emergency
kit.

C


I use nothing, wait 30-60 minutes and it is virtually gone.
Can't find any clue that I was stung the next day. I've been
stung many times by most everything except Scorpions (none
in this area).

This reminds me of Granny Clampett's cure for the common
cold. It was some horrible concoction she would brew up and
feed you. In a week to 10 days your cold would be cured.
Worked every time! (grin)

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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FragileWarrior 29-08-2007 10:34 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
Leon Fisk wrote in
:

I use nothing, wait 30-60 minutes and it is virtually gone.


Lucky you. I got stung by a teeny little sweat bee this spring and ended
up on steroids for an arm that was swollen from wrist to armpit and half-
way 'round the circumferance -- and still swelling three days later.

I used Plantain in it immediately and although it helped with the sting, it
did nothing to stop the reaction. Well... wait... I *hope* that was an
unstopped reaction or I'd hate to see a full-blown one.

Leon Fisk 30-08-2007 09:21 PM

Another Bee Bites the Dust
 
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:34:04 +0000 (UTC), FragileWarrior
wrote:

Leon Fisk wrote in
:

I use nothing, wait 30-60 minutes and it is virtually gone.


Lucky you. I got stung by a teeny little sweat bee this spring and ended
up on steroids for an arm that was swollen from wrist to armpit and half-
way 'round the circumferance -- and still swelling three days later.

I used Plantain in it immediately and although it helped with the sting, it
did nothing to stop the reaction. Well... wait... I *hope* that was an
unstopped reaction or I'd hate to see a full-blown one.


Bummer...

I don't know if it is lucky or not. It still hurts like the
begeezers for a few seconds. Really annoying when the
culprit gets away too, before I can squash it.

I know that it is no trivial matter for some people. I
didn't mean to be flippant. I have my doubts though that the
home remedies mentioned are of much help for a reaction like
you are getting...

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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