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[email protected] 06-08-2008 01:48 PM

digging up plants at tree base
 
I have to dig up a huge liriope which is at the base of a 5 year old
weeping bald cypress. I don't want to kill the cypress. Is there a
way to do this? Thanks.

Don Staples 06-08-2008 03:05 PM

digging up plants at tree base
 
wrote in message
...
I have to dig up a huge liriope which is at the base of a 5 year old
weeping bald cypress. I don't want to kill the cypress. Is there a
way to do this? Thanks.



No real safe way, if it is that close you will do some root damage to the
cypress. Roots will be inter mixed, very difficult to remove without
damage. You may try to soak the soil, make it as loose and pliable as
possible, and work the liriope out, carefully, dig with a hose washing the
dirt away from the roots.

Good luck.


paghat[_2_] 06-08-2008 05:12 PM

digging up plants at tree base
 
In article
,
wrote:

I have to dig up a huge liriope which is at the base of a 5 year old
weeping bald cypress. I don't want to kill the cypress. Is there a
way to do this? Thanks.


If you love the cypress don't do this. You'll cause considerable damage if
you use anything resembling a shovel and the tree might bounce back from
the injury, but it might not.

Liriope is so cheap and grows so easily, risking only that would be more
reasonable. You could soak the area well then just yank out the liriope
without chopping up the tree's roots, then replant whatever comes up with
enough roots. If it dies it costs very little to replace, but
realistically you'll get enough of it to transplant where you want it and
it'll soon spread.

-paghat the ratgirl
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symplastless 06-08-2008 11:08 PM

digging up plants at tree base
 
Watch the roots. Better if just cut to ground level rather than digging
out.
SEE: Troubles in the Rhizosphere for problems in absorbing area.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.
wrote in message
...
I have to dig up a huge liriope which is at the base of a 5 year old
weeping bald cypress. I don't want to kill the cypress. Is there a
way to do this? Thanks.




symplastless 06-08-2008 11:11 PM

digging up plants at tree base
 

"Don Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
wrote in message
...
I have to dig up a huge liriope which is at the base of a 5 year old
weeping bald cypress. I don't want to kill the cypress. Is there a
way to do this? Thanks.



No real safe way, if it is that close you will do some root damage to the
cypress. Roots will be inter mixed, very difficult to remove without
damage. You may try to soak the soil, make it as loose and pliable as
possible, and work the liriope out, carefully, dig with a hose washing the
dirt away from the roots.

Good luck.
Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


Dirt? Why would he have dirt for the tree to grow in? Most trees prefer
soil.

SOIL: http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/S/soil.html

Best not to dig out. Grass roots grow deeper than non-woody absorbing roots
of tree.
--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.



paghat[_2_] 07-08-2008 01:10 AM

digging up plants at tree base
 
In article , "symplastless"
wrote:

"Don Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
wrote in message
...
I have to dig up a huge liriope which is at the base of a 5 year old
weeping bald cypress. I don't want to kill the cypress. Is there a
way to do this? Thanks.



No real safe way, if it is that close you will do some root damage to the
cypress. Roots will be inter mixed, very difficult to remove without
damage. You may try to soak the soil, make it as loose and pliable as
possible, and work the liriope out, carefully, dig with a hose washing the
dirt away from the roots.

Good luck.
Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


Dirt? Why would he have dirt for the tree to grow in? Most trees prefer
soil.

SOIL: http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/S/soil.html

Best not to dig out. Grass roots grow deeper than non-woody absorbing roots
of tree.


Wadda dumbass. Definition of Dirt according to Princeton's wordnet is
"part of the earth's crust consisting of humus and disintegrated rock,"
synonym for Soil, separately defined as "part of the earth's crust
consisting of humos and disintegrated rock." Websters defines dirt as
"earth or soil."

Your problem is you rely on your own website for all answers to all
things, and you're not the bright. It's kind of like someone with their
head cut off relying on their neck-stump for fresh ideas.

-paggers
--
visit my temperate gardening website:
http://www.paghat.com
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http://www.weirdwildrealm.com

D. Staples 07-08-2008 06:12 AM

digging up plants at tree base
 

"sympleass" wrote in message
. ..
Watch the roots. Better if just cut to ground level rather than digging
out.
SEE: Troubles in the Rhizosphere for problems in absorbing area.
http://www.treeddictionary.com/DICT2...igo/RHIZO.html


Hey, yard boy, she wants to move the tree, no problem in absorbing area,
problem is MOVING THE DAMN PLANT.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Yard Boy
www.treeddictionary.com
Beware of yard boys who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
Some yard boys will buy products they do not understand and buy books
that they do not understand..
wrote in message
...
I have to dig up a huge liriope which is at the base of a 5 year old
weeping bald cypress. I don't want to kill the cypress. Is there a
way to do this? Thanks.






David Hare-Scott 07-08-2008 07:20 AM

digging up plants at tree base
 

"symplastless" wrote in message

I have to dig up a huge liriope which is at the base of a 5 year old
weeping bald cypress. I don't want to kill the cypress. Is there a
way to do this? Thanks.



No real safe way, if it is that close you will do some root damage to the
cypress. Roots will be inter mixed, very difficult to remove without
damage. You may try to soak the soil, make it as loose and pliable as
possible, and work the liriope out, carefully, dig with a hose washing the
dirt away from the roots.

Good luck.
Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


Dirt? Why would he have dirt for the tree to grow in? Most trees prefer
soil.


Please explain in what way this gem of pointless pedantry is going to help the
OP.

David



Billy[_5_] 07-08-2008 08:41 AM

digging up plants at tree base
 
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

"symplastless" wrote in message

I have to dig up a huge liriope which is at the base of a 5 year old
weeping bald cypress. I don't want to kill the cypress. Is there a
way to do this? Thanks.


No real safe way, if it is that close you will do some root damage to the
cypress. Roots will be inter mixed, very difficult to remove without
damage. You may try to soak the soil, make it as loose and pliable as
possible, and work the liriope out, carefully, dig with a hose washing the
dirt away from the roots.

Good luck.
Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


Dirt? Why would he have dirt for the tree to grow in? Most trees prefer
soil.


Please explain in what way this gem of pointless pedantry is going to help the
OP.

David


Nice alliteration ;O)
--

Billy
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Dioclese 07-08-2008 04:05 PM

digging up plants at tree base
 
"Jangchub" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 05:48:59 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I have to dig up a huge liriope which is at the base of a 5 year old
weeping bald cypress. I don't want to kill the cypress. Is there a
way to do this? Thanks.


Just cut the liriope to the ground and continue cutting it and leaving
it covered with no light and repeat and repeat the process and
eventually it will die. I've done this with Chinese tallow, Palo
Verde and a bunch of different trees which come up rapidly and it
works. No disturbance at all to the roots of the tree.


Just tie a goat to the tree... See your local rent-a-goat outlet.
;)
--
Dave



newsreader 08-08-2008 11:13 PM

digging up plants at tree base
 
Damn Paggers,
Why don't you say what you really think. ;)

[email protected] 09-08-2008 01:01 PM

digging up plants at tree base
 
Thanks, so much for the helpful replies!



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