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D. Staples 31-08-2008 03:16 PM

Black walnuts
 

"Stephen Henning" wrote in message
...
"D. Staples" wrote:

Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy moth,
yard man.


He didn't say that. He said that turf was bad for black walnut and
gypsy moth was just an annoyance. However, fall webworm is not gypsy
moth.
--

You must have missed the past few years of the yard boy recommending
mulching for every possible condition or conditions of trees.



symplastless 31-08-2008 07:16 PM

Black walnuts
 

"D. Staples" wrote in message
yinc...

"Stephen Henning" wrote in message
...
"D. Staples" wrote:

Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy moth,
yard man.


He didn't say that. He said that turf was bad for black walnut and
gypsy moth was just an annoyance. However, fall webworm is not gypsy
moth.
--

You must have missed the past few years of the yard boy recommending
mulching for every possible condition or conditions of trees.
Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


Sure salvage logging deforestation person staples. When most tree problems
are trouble in the rhizosphere than mulching could be the answer for many
problems if done correctly. I would not expect Don Staples to have a clue.
his specialty is wood products and not tree biology. He actually says that
removing all wood and cellulose is restoration of a forest. I strongly
disagree as well as many other tree people.

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html



Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.



Dave Smith[_2_] 31-08-2008 07:52 PM

Black walnuts
 
wrote:
Salutations, gentlefolk,

Did a bit of research and found that the little green tennisballs
falling in my front yard actually contain black walnuts.

Any advice on how to seperate the edible part from the "containers'',
and prepare them ?

Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?



Let them dry out and they should be easier to get the nuts out of them.
It is a good idea to wear rubber gloves because you will quickly learn
where they get the colouring for Black Walnut stain. They were turn your
fingers black.

Those nests are more likely tent caterpillars. They are quite common on
Black Walnut trees. The easiest way to deal with them is to get one of
those long telescoping pruners and lop off the end of the branch, then
burn it, or else you can try to burn them on the branch with a propane
torch. If you can at least poke a hole in the nest the birds will
probably eat them. They are not the same hazard that gypsy moth
caterpillars are. Gypsy Moths will quickly wipe out entire trees.....
forests.

D. Staples 31-08-2008 09:59 PM

Black walnuts
 

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

"D. Staples" wrote in message
yinc...

"Stephen Henning" wrote in message
...
"D. Staples" wrote:

Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy
moth,
yard man.

He didn't say that. He said that turf was bad for black walnut and
gypsy moth was just an annoyance. However, fall webworm is not gypsy
moth.
--

You must have missed the past few years of the yard boy recommending
mulching for every possible condition or conditions of trees.
Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


Sure salvage logging deforestation person staples. When most tree
problems are trouble in the rhizosphere than mulching could be the answer
for many problems if done correctly. I would not expect Don Staples to
have a clue. his specialty is wood products and not tree biology. He
actually says that removing all wood and cellulose is restoration of a
forest. I strongly disagree as well as many other tree people.



Your a tree person, all right, dense as a dead log. Like I said, yard boy,
Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy moth,
yard man.

A 58 day biologist, what a boy wonder.



Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treemdic tionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Mulching -
http://www.treedmi ctionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html



Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting yard boy
www.trededictionary.com
Beware of yard boys who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
Some yard boys will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
that will give them understanding.




symplastless 01-09-2008 01:29 PM

Black walnuts
 

"D. Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

"D. Staples" wrote in message
yinc...

"Stephen Henning" wrote in message
...
"D. Staples" wrote:

Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy
moth,
yard man.

He didn't say that. He said that turf was bad for black walnut and
gypsy moth was just an annoyance. However, fall webworm is not gypsy
moth.
--
You must have missed the past few years of the yard boy recommending
mulching for every possible condition or conditions of trees.
Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy
moth,
yard man.


You must have missed the past few years of the yard boy recommending
mulching for every possible condition or conditions of trees.


Correct mulching is a natural requirement of trees of a forest. Do you have
any understanding of tree biology? I think not.
Don Staples has no clue as to the importance of correct mulching for the
health of trees and their associates.

Most tree problems are trouble in the rhizosphere.
Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Don Staples claims that removing all wood from a site is restoration.
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

Mulch comes in different gradations from fine organic material to large tree
trunks with soil contact. Nurse logs provide water during drought. When
trees do not have water during drought their energy reserves is reduced.
Trees with energy reserves reduced are more likely to suffer from gypsy
moths. Just one of many benefits of mulch.

Enjoy the storm Don Staples.

Other than gypsy moths and mulch comes the benefits of wood for forest
health. here is an example of what your restoration work really is:
Tree Farming and Related Problems
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/

Ok, then, Don Staples. Please provide data specific to Texas that states
that your salvage and restoration work increases the health of a forest
rather
than what I state, which that is that your practice is deforestation.
Please
provide the page and paragraph number where your data can be found stating
that you increase forest health by your salvage and restoration work. You
claim I am a fraud while all along you promote deforestation. You claim to
be a consulting forester. Please consult and provide the data for your
practice.
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.




symplastless 01-09-2008 01:37 PM

mulch
 
Mulch when applied correctly can help trees acquire conditions for healthy
growth has they had when they got their genetic codes in a forest. Mulch
comes in different gradations. Some people claim removing mulch from a
forest is good for forest health
(http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm ). I strongly
disagree.

Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html

A Touch of Chemistry
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Also Don Staples claims removing all mulch from a forest is restoration?
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm
Tree Farming and Related Problems with Dons plans to remove all material.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/


Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.



stark 01-09-2008 02:21 PM

Black walnuts
 
On Aug 30, 12:34*pm, wrote:
Salutations, gentlefolk,

Did a bit of research and found that the little green tennisballs
falling in my front yard actually contain black walnuts.

Any advice on how to seperate the edible part from the *"containers'',
and prepare them ?

Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. *Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?

Yours, John Desmond


Enigma has the scoop on dehusking black walnuts; and drying them out.
I'm not sure about driving a car over them. Maybe a tank, something
with metal treads. My method was purely primitive. I had a large
stone with a round depression in which the walnuts fit. Then to work
with a good hammer, a light touch and a good pick. You quickly learn
where to whack the nut, but you'll never get clean half pieces like
with English walnuts. It's bits and pieces all the way and you wonder
a dozen times "is this really worth it?"

Don Staples 01-09-2008 02:38 PM

Black walnuts
 
You are an idiot, yard boy.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting yard boy
http://homde.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedicdtionary.com
Beware of yard boys who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
Some yard boys will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
that will give them understanding.






symplastless 03-09-2008 02:53 AM

Black walnuts
 

"Don Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
You are an idiot, yard boy.

Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm



About you suggesting removing mulch from a forest helps forest health.

Ok, then, Don Staples. Please provide data specific to Texas that states
that your salvage and restoration work increases the health of a forest
rather
than what I state, which that is that your practice is deforestation.
Please
provide the page and paragraph number where your data can be found stating
that you increase forest health by your salvage and restoration work. You
claim I am a fraud while all along you promote deforestation. You claim to
be a consulting forester. Please consult and provide the data for your
practice.
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.




D. Staples 03-09-2008 03:19 AM

Black walnuts
 

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

"Don Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
You are an idiot, yard boy.

Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm



About you suggesting removing mulch from a forest helps forest health.


Show me, idiot, where I suggested removing mulch from the forest.


Ok, then, Don Staples. Please provide data specific to Texas that states
that your salvage and restoration work increases the health of a forest
rather
than what I state, which that is that your practice is deforestation.


How can it be deforestation, when it is dead material, already deforested by
natural causes, idiot?

Please
provide the page and paragraph number where your data can be found stating
that you increase forest health by your salvage and restoration work. You
claim I am a fraud while all along you promote deforestation. You claim
to be a consulting forester. Please consult and provide the data for your
practice.
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting yard boy
http://home.ccil.onrg/~treeman
and www.treedicdtionary.com
Beware of yard boys who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
Some yard boys will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
that will give them understanding.






Nancy2 03-09-2008 09:55 PM

Black walnuts
 

Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. *Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?

Yours, John Desmond


Tent caterpillars - just cut off the part that is "tented," and burn
it. If that doesn't work, call your county extension office.

N.

Don Staples 04-09-2008 02:26 PM

Black walnuts
 
"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

"Don Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
You are an idiot, yard boy.

Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm



About you suggesting removing mulch from a forest helps forest health.

Ok, then, Don Staples. Please provide data specific to Texas that states
that your salvage and restoration work increases the health of a forest
rather
than what I state, which that is that your practice is deforestation.
Please
provide the page and paragraph number where your data can be found stating
that you increase forest health by your salvage and restoration work. You
claim I am a fraud while all along you promote deforestation. You claim
to be a consulting forester. Please consult and provide the data for your
practice.
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


I provide such services to professionals, and paying clients, you are
neither, and never will be, yard boy. You have still failed to show what
you claim are my comments. So, yard boy, blow it out your ass.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting yard boy
http://home.cscil.org/~treeman
and www.treesdictionary.com
Beware of yard boys who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
Some yard boys will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
that will give them understanding.






Leon Fisk 04-09-2008 07:48 PM

Black walnuts
 
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:55:30 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
wrote:


Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. *Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?

Yours, John Desmond


Tent caterpillars - just cut off the part that is "tented," and burn
it. If that doesn't work, call your county extension office.


As mentioned earlier, more likely to be Webworms this time
of the year.

I came across this nice little book on Caterpillars while
looking for something else:

http://extension.missouri.edu/explor...ts/ipm1019.htm

"IPM1019 Caterpillars in Your Yard and Garden, MU Extension"

At the top of the page on the left-hand side there was a
link to get a pdf version for free. It has pretty good color
pictures and some reference.

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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kartlonbaugh 16-02-2011 04:15 PM

I anticipate they are delicious--aromatic and not absinthian like some English walnuts. They're admirable in accolade or brownies. They are a PITA to abstract from the shells, however, and never appear out whole.


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