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Time to bring in your pot plants...
If you own any agricultural land in New Orleans area, write it off now.
If you thought your tax money was safe from aiding evacuees in a bowl below
sea-level along the Gulf Coast for awhile, guess again.
If you thought NWS is straight-up, unbiased science, guess again.
Yesterday, Gustav was estimated Cat3 throughtout its journey to the Gulf
Coast. Despite its obvious path through warm waters that aid hurricane
intensity. In one day, tropical storm to Cat4 hurricane. In prior times,
the Cuba's west almost mountains had tremendous detremental effect on
hurricanes, not this time per the forecast.

I live more than 300 miles from the TX shoreline, and am over 800 feet above
sea level. I'm scared of hurricanes, their tornadoes, and the amount of
rain they can bring. You couldn't pay me enought to live in the New Orleans
drowning bowl. Yet, I still do that via taxes for other people.

Gas up your car, whether it needs it or not. Some of those oil rigs out in
the Gulf will be down for awhile. Consider this a safe form of oil price
speculation on my part.

SSDD
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:37:30 -0500, "Dioclese" NONE wrote:

Time to bring in your pot plants...
If you own any agricultural land in New Orleans area, write it off now.
If you thought your tax money was safe from aiding evacuees in a bowl
below
sea-level along the Gulf Coast for awhile, guess again.
If you thought NWS is straight-up, unbiased science, guess again.
Yesterday, Gustav was estimated Cat3 throughtout its journey to the Gulf
Coast. Despite its obvious path through warm waters that aid hurricane
intensity. In one day, tropical storm to Cat4 hurricane. In prior times,
the Cuba's west almost mountains had tremendous detremental effect on
hurricanes, not this time per the forecast.

I live more than 300 miles from the TX shoreline, and am over 800 feet
above
sea level. I'm scared of hurricanes, their tornadoes, and the amount of
rain they can bring. You couldn't pay me enought to live in the New
Orleans
drowning bowl. Yet, I still do that via taxes for other people.

Gas up your car, whether it needs it or not. Some of those oil rigs out
in
the Gulf will be down for awhile. Consider this a safe form of oil price
speculation on my part.

SSDD


The portion of western Cuba which Gustav made land is a very flat area
so it didn't slow it down at all. The waters inside the Gulf are much
warmer than they are further east of the island chains. There is no
way to really predict what a Cat 1 can do once it hits land. There
are so many entities which must happen at the same time for a
hurricane to become a Cat 5, which is what it is being predicted as
hitting the coast with. I live in Austin, a hundred miles in and not
only wouldn't I live in New Orleans, I will never go there again. We
used to drive there at least once a year as it is one of our favorite
cities. I don't think we have really started seeing the health
problems many will start to have in the next decade. The place was
sewage in 100 degree heat for weeks.

I don't judge those people, but I would never live there. My taxes
pay for the better of the all. It's part of being lucky enough to
live in a country which is among the wealthiest on the planet. Rejoice
that we have tax money to pay taxes with instead of being hard on
those it helps.
http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/
Security is not what I have, it's what I can do without,,,


They were semi-right. It stayed CAT3 most of the way. However, after
hitting the "flat" western side of Cuba, it dropped from CAT4 to CAT2 for
awhile.

I wouldn't feel supportive of anyone living or owning a business immediately
below an active volcano. Feel empathy for their plight if overrun with lava
or debris, yes. Feel obligated in any fashion to provide monies for their
obvious bad decision to live there, no. Its not a case of "sh..t happens",
its a case of sh..t that will happen.

This country has been singing the song of wealthy too long. Meanwhile,
we're 53 trillion dollars in debt.
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or whatever you choose, is not separate
from nature. Stop living and thinking
that way.


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"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Jangchub" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:37:30 -0500, "Dioclese" NONE wrote:

Time to bring in your pot plants...
If you own any agricultural land in New Orleans area, write it off now.
If you thought your tax money was safe from aiding evacuees in a bowl
below
sea-level along the Gulf Coast for awhile, guess again.
If you thought NWS is straight-up, unbiased science, guess again.
Yesterday, Gustav was estimated Cat3 throughtout its journey to the Gulf
Coast. Despite its obvious path through warm waters that aid hurricane
intensity. In one day, tropical storm to Cat4 hurricane. In prior times,
the Cuba's west almost mountains had tremendous detremental effect on
hurricanes, not this time per the forecast.

I live more than 300 miles from the TX shoreline, and am over 800 feet
above
sea level. I'm scared of hurricanes, their tornadoes, and the amount of
rain they can bring. You couldn't pay me enought to live in the New
Orleans
drowning bowl. Yet, I still do that via taxes for other people.

Gas up your car, whether it needs it or not. Some of those oil rigs out
in
the Gulf will be down for awhile. Consider this a safe form of oil price
speculation on my part.

SSDD


The portion of western Cuba which Gustav made land is a very flat area
so it didn't slow it down at all. The waters inside the Gulf are much
warmer than they are further east of the island chains. There is no
way to really predict what a Cat 1 can do once it hits land. There
are so many entities which must happen at the same time for a
hurricane to become a Cat 5, which is what it is being predicted as
hitting the coast with. I live in Austin, a hundred miles in and not
only wouldn't I live in New Orleans, I will never go there again. We
used to drive there at least once a year as it is one of our favorite
cities. I don't think we have really started seeing the health
problems many will start to have in the next decade. The place was
sewage in 100 degree heat for weeks.

I don't judge those people, but I would never live there. My taxes
pay for the better of the all. It's part of being lucky enough to
live in a country which is among the wealthiest on the planet. Rejoice
that we have tax money to pay taxes with instead of being hard on
those it helps.
http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/
Security is not what I have, it's what I can do without,,,


They were semi-right. It stayed CAT3 most of the way. However, after
hitting the "flat" western side of Cuba, it dropped from CAT4 to CAT2 for
awhile.

I wouldn't feel supportive of anyone living or owning a business immediately
below an active volcano. Feel empathy for their plight if overrun with lava
or debris, yes. Feel obligated in any fashion to provide monies for their
obvious bad decision to live there, no. Its not a case of "sh..t happens",
its a case of sh..t that will happen.

This country has been singing the song of wealthy too long. Meanwhile,
we're 53 trillion dollars in debt.


There is an article over in Salon worth a read.

Since it is a premium site here is a edited taste.

Bill

............................

Question

³Isn't there something strange about people in California scratching
their heads about New Orleans: "Wow, how could they get in this
situation?" Who are we to say that?³

Response

³Totally. We are the state that is waiting to fall down at a moment's
notice from a major earthquake. We're definitely in the same kind of
boat. We've concentrated our populations in the worst possible place,
when it comes to natural disasters. Who are we to talk?

Our capital city is the most flood-threatened major metropolitan area in
the country. Period. Sacramento has the highest flood risk of a major
metropolitan area in the United States. So, hello! We've just gotten
lucky. And we will lose the battle of the inevitable. ³

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feat...ogy/index.html

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