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I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. They are far
from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. I think it's made of rubber. Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? MC |
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MiamiCuse wrote:
I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. They are far from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. I think it's made of rubber. Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? I remember admiring a Model A, and I asked the owner where he got the replacement rubber, it was perfect. He said "Replacement, that's original!". I have a 1" rubber hose that would never think of kinking, of course, this is a monster. My guess is that thinner hoses will be more likely to kink, look for substance, no matter what you get, if this is a concern. Jeff MC |
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jeff wrote:
MiamiCuse wrote: I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. They are far from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. I think it's made of rubber. Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? I remember admiring a Model A, and I asked the owner where he got the replacement rubber, it was perfect. He said "Replacement, that's original!". I have a 1" rubber hose that would never think of kinking, of course, this is a monster. My guess is that thinner hoses will be more likely to kink, look for substance, no matter what you get, if this is a concern. Jeff MC Good point. I have 19mm (3/4in) and 12mm (1/2in) made of the same material, the thinner kinks much more. David |
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MiamiCuse wrote:
I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. They are far from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. I think it's made of rubber. Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? MC Hi, You bet. Heavy duty industrial/commercial one. I have one and it is so heavy and kink free but hard to handle. |
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"MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. They are far from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. I think it's made of rubber. Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? MC IMO, yes, it is better, but after 15 years it may be deteriorating. If you want the best possible hose reel, go to www.rapidreel.com After curing every other type for years, I spent the money and have never been happier using the hoses and being able to re-wind it easily. . |
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Mine, I hang over my air conditioner bracket. at Ace
Hardware, I did buy a roll of canvass and rubber "stores flat on a reel" hose, but havn't yet used it. I suggest to get used to twisting the hose as you coil it up on the ground. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. They are far from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. I think it's made of rubber. Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? MC |
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"MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. They are far from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. I think it's made of rubber. Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? MC Good hoses are still available. They just cost more. Most people do not understand the principles behind coiling. Hose is like wire rope. It will coil, but it doesn't twist very much. Lay out a stretch of steel wire, and you notice that if you turn one end, the other end turns the same amount. Weaker things will spin a couple of times before the other end starts to move. Over time, this bending develops a memory in the tube, and then it becomes harder to straighten it out. Figure eight'ing hose will allow storage without twisting. A coil method of one coil one way, and the next reversed works great, but few can master it. You can properly coil wire rope using this technique, then pull it all out straight without a spiral in it. Same for hose. As for using reels ............ lots of variables. Hoses go onto reels much differently if they are pressurized than if not pressurized. Some hoses are weak, and will flatten when rolled up on a reel, and others won't. Then there's unreeling. Have you left it full of water, and now it has frozen? Did you reel it up right and even? Reels work pretty good, and there's all grades, some even with level wind mechanisms. But knowing the principles of the whole thing help to gain predictable results. HTH Steve |
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"MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. They are far from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. I think it's made of rubber. Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? MC I recently replaced two old plastic 50' hoses with two 50' rubber hoses I bought at Lowes. These new hoses have not kinked, so far. I found if I coiled the old plastic hoses while they were filled with water, they coiled much easier and never kinked. Once I had them coiled, I drained the water off. My main complaint with the plastic hoses was that they deteriorated very fast in the hot Texas sun. The rubber hoses, so far, do not seem to be damaged by the sun. Freckles |
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"MiamiCuse" wrote: I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. They are far from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. All brand new hose is prone to kinking. Hose needs to be broken in, so that it loses it's factory "memory" (from being tightly wound in its sale mode), with use it will become softer and more flexible (lower quality hose may never become soft and flexible, and in fact over time tends to harden). And when you say "roll them back up" do you mean on the ground or on a hose reel? Winding hose on the grond automatically causes hose to twist, whech will caue it to kink in use. It's best to use a hose reel, and still there is a proper way to wind hose on a reel. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. I think it's made of rubber. Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? Rubber hoses are not better, they're different... they're more abrasion resistant and can better withstand being constantly driven over... but they are less flexible and are much heavier to drag around than vinyl hose. Were I going to be using a hose mostly over a paved area and/or where there are sharp protruding objects like inside a factory building, and over reletively short distances I'd choose rubber... for garden and lawn areas I'd choose vinyl. Generally for home use vinyl hose is a better choice. For commercial use rubber hose is generally a better choice; rubber hose costs more but can withstand the rigors of hard use and abuse much better than vinyl. |
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MiamiCuse wrote:
I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. They are far from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. I think it's made of rubber. Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? MC Same thing I have said before. Sears sells a life time warranted rubber hose. If anything ever goes wrong with it you take it back and they give you a new one. They are heavier, but it is worth it for the fact that when you pull a kink in one all you have to do is untwist it and the kink goes away. They cost more, I paid about $35 for my 70 foot one, but since I won't ever have to buy a replacement for it it is well worth the price. Bill |
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"BillGill" wrote in message ... MiamiCuse wrote: I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. They are far from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. I think it's made of rubber. Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? MC Same thing I have said before. Sears sells a life time warranted rubber hose. If anything ever goes wrong with it you take it back and they give you a new one. They are heavier, but it is worth it for the fact that when you pull a kink in one all you have to do is untwist it and the kink goes away. They cost more, I paid about $35 for my 70 foot one, but since I won't ever have to buy a replacement for it it is well worth the price. Bill I agree. I bought a heavy duty 100' rubber hose from sears many years ago and it still kink-free and in great shape. I use on of those free standing reels with a big crank from one of the big home improvement stores. It works pretty well winding neatly and the hose is enclosed which helps it's lifespan. I bought a few more 50' rubber hoses for the front yard and they are pretty good, but will kink on occasion. I attribute this to the crappy wall-mounted reel they are on more than the hose themselves. Once we get the furniture we are holding for my daughter out of the garage later this summer, I''' be able to put a better reel in the garage for these hoses. Jon |
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SteveB wrote: A coil method of one coil one way, and the next reversed works great, but few can master it. By far the best method to use. One note though is that once a cable / hose / wire has been abused and kinked, it won't coil well no matter what technique you use. |
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"MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. They are far from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. I think it's made of rubber. Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? MC I have a black hose from Sears and it's way better than any of the green hoses I've owned. I also have a SideWinder hose reel. This combination works for me. You still have to make sure you don't kink the hose, but it's a small problem instead of a big problem. |
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"BillGill" wrote in message ... MiamiCuse wrote: I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. They are far from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. I think it's made of rubber. Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? MC Same thing I have said before. Sears sells a life time warranted rubber hose. If anything ever goes wrong with it you take it back and they give you a new one. They are heavier, but it is worth it for the fact that when you pull a kink in one all you have to do is untwist it and the kink goes away. They cost more, I paid about $35 for my 70 foot one, but since I won't ever have to buy a replacement for it it is well worth the price. I find rubber hose much too heavy to drag around over lawns, especially with water in it... heavy rubber hose is meant for commercial applications, it will easily slide over paved areas but not lawn. I can buy 100' lengths of Swan brand 5/8" hose at Lowes at end of season for under $10. Since I live where winters are very cold I drain my hoses and store them reel and all in a barn. During warm weather my hoses are outdoors but the reels are set in a shaded area... sun is a killer of plastics and rubber. Always remember to close the bib valve and open the nozzle end before winding on the reel, leaving a hose under pressure greatly shortens its life... even with the supply turned off if the hose is filled and in the sun the water will expand and damage the hose, always leave the nozzle open while winding so that the hose drains... this also places much less stress on your hose reel, a filled hose is a lot heavier than one realizes. It's best to wind less hose than a reel's rating, by carring less weight the reel will last a lot longer, and so will the hose... the portion of hose at the core of the reel will crush, and if rarely used will be apt to harden and rot... for the rare times you need a longer hose it's better to simply screw on an extra length, then remove it when done. Most folks will have at least two lenghths of hose on a reel, it's a good idea to rotate the lengths each season. If you're short a hose bib it's better to connect a second reel with a "y" fitting and a length of rubber hose tucked into the foundation than to overload a reel with more hose. Never leave a hose lying stretched out in the sun, put it back on its reel directly after use... and wind neatly with no crossing, and wind loosely, if a hose is wound in a stretched mode it will be damaged, it will kink because stretching will give hose an oval cross section, and its life will be greatly shortened... bring your hose to the reel before winding rather than use the reel to drag the full length of hose across the ground; this will save your hose, your reel, and your arm. I like the heavy duty Swan brand hose, it's well made so it lasts a long time (and has a lifetime guarantee), and I especially like its solid machined brass couplings, formed brass is thinner and more prone to deform and therefore leak. Replace all hose gaskets each season, it's a lot cheaper to spend 10¢ on a new gasket than to over tighten and ruin the coupling... if you find yourself needing a pair of pliers to tighten hose couplings then you need new gaskets, hose couplings should only be hand tightened. Some people flip gaskets to use the other side but then they typically need tightening with pliers, false economy. Don't buy too many hose gaskets in advance, they will harden with age and become useless. http://www.swanhose.com/hose.shtml I live near the world's leading reel company but I think their garden hose reels are just too pricey for home use. http://www.hannay.com/ |
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"brooklyn1" wrote in message I live near the world's leading reel company but I think their garden hose reels are just too pricey for home use. http://www.hannay.com/ Never saw them before. Look good but pricey at $339. A couple of years ago I went with www.rapidreel.com. Not cheap either, but works great. Hose does not kink and unwinds and winds easily. The one I have was $179 but they do have less expensive models. Don't waste your money on the $30 plastic jobs at the big box stores. |
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:06:52 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"brooklyn1" wrote in message I live near the world's leading reel company but I think their garden hose reels are just too pricey for home use. http://www.hannay.com/ Never saw them before. Look good but pricey at $339. A couple of years ago I went with www.rapidreel.com. Not cheap either, but works great. Hose does not kink and unwinds and winds easily. The one I have was $179 but they do have less expensive models. Don't waste your money on the $30 plastic jobs at the big box stores. I'd rather use those plastic jobs. They last 5 years. The cost of a $180 model will never be recouped. I have better places to put $150. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... "brooklyn1" wrote in message I live near the world's leading reel company but I think their garden hose reels are just too pricey for home use. http://www.hannay.com/ Never saw them before. Look good but pricey at $339. A couple of years ago I went with www.rapidreel.com. Not cheap either, but works great. Hose does not kink and unwinds and winds easily. The one I have was $179 but they do have less expensive models. Don't waste your money on the $30 plastic jobs at the big box stores. Everything is being made cheaper except for prices. I bought three of those plastic hose reels at Lowes 7 years ago for $20 each and they're still going strong. I bought a similar one for my tenant a little over a year ago that cost $30 and it cracked after a year... it's still usable but it won't last much longer... the plastic is less than half the thickness of my older ones. $339 is way too much, but so is $179... I don't think a decent quality homeowner type hose reel should cost more than $50. |
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"AZ Nomad" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:06:52 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: "brooklyn1" wrote in message I live near the world's leading reel company but I think their garden hose reels are just too pricey for home use. http://www.hannay.com/ Never saw them before. Look good but pricey at $339. A couple of years ago I went with www.rapidreel.com. Not cheap either, but works great. Hose does not kink and unwinds and winds easily. The one I have was $179 but they do have less expensive models. Don't waste your money on the $30 plastic jobs at the big box stores. I'd rather use those plastic jobs. They last 5 years. The cost of a $180 model will never be recouped. I have better places to put $150. Good for you. IMO, the plastic jobs are crap, aggravating to use, and don't last more than a year or two. I'm willing to pay for convenience and quality. I can wind my hose up in seconds and smoothly, something a plastic reel never could achieve. We have choices, mine differs from yours. |
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"Pete C." wrote in message ster.com... SteveB wrote: A coil method of one coil one way, and the next reversed works great, but few can master it. By far the best method to use. One note though is that once a cable / hose / wire has been abused and kinked, it won't coil well no matter what technique you use. Problem with the el-cheapo Wal-Mart/Home-Depot/Costco hoses (yes, even Costco sells these piece of crap hoses) is that it is so very easy to kink them. And as many here have pointed out, once it kinks, it will keep kinking in the same place. I have several of them that I keep on the ground in my garden - I don't coil them up when done, they stay in place where I need them and I just drag them around as needed. And the !@#$ things kink so easly I'm ready to throw the whole lot of them in the trash and go buy an industrial quality hose that I can use without kinking.... |
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"Zootal" wrote in message ... "Pete C." wrote in message ster.com... SteveB wrote: A coil method of one coil one way, and the next reversed works great, but few can master it. By far the best method to use. One note though is that once a cable / hose / wire has been abused and kinked, it won't coil well no matter what technique you use. Problem with the el-cheapo Wal-Mart/Home-Depot/Costco hoses (yes, even Costco sells these piece of crap hoses) is that it is so very easy to kink them. And as many here have pointed out, once it kinks, it will keep kinking in the same place. I have several of them that I keep on the ground in my garden - I don't coil them up when done, they stay in place where I need them and I just drag them around as needed. And the !@#$ things kink so easly I'm ready to throw the whole lot of them in the trash and go buy an industrial quality hose that I can use without kinking.... My epiphany came when I had a driveway put in. The company crushed my hose in front of the house. They bought me another. A Goodyear 1" black 75 footer with nice cast brass fittings. I tell you what, that hose was probably $50 or more. More than I would have ever spent. It's still going strong after five years, and doesn't look used. I've bought a couple since then, and there's just no comparison. With the money I've spent for shitty hoses, I could have good ones everywhere I have hoses. The end sprayers thread on so much better, and the hose bibb connectors don't leak, too. Steve |
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Actually, Gilmore irrigation products sold in Lowes and Home Depot
come with a lifetime warranty. I've had my 120 foot hose replaced three times now. No questions asked. It's even easier now in the modern day with digital. I simply cut both ends off and take a photo and they send me a new hose. I am certain most people do not take advantage of this service. So remember, Gilmore hoses, watering tools, sprinklers, timers...all have a Lifetime Warranty version. Just look on the packaging. Victoria Meh. I'd rather have a good quality product then a piece of junk that needs replacing periodically. A warranty doesn't do me any good when I have a broken tool that I need now and the stores are closed until Monday. Case in point - I made the mistake of buying a cheap off-brand tiller (you think I would have learned by now to NEVER buy cheap off-brand products). After two years the handle breaks. Replacement? No problem! Just wait 5 weeks for us to get one from the factory. Spring...ground is dry, but rain is coming next week. Till the ground now or wait another month or two for another break in the rain. And my tiller is broken and the best warranty in the world does me no good because I bought a cheap made in China plastic piece of crap and it takes 5 weeks to get a replacement handle. Moral of the story. Never buy cheap plastic made in China (or made anywhere else for that matter) crap. Fork out the bucks for something good so it doesn't bite you later. |
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:59:46 -0700, Zootal wrote:
Moral of the story. Never buy cheap plastic made in China (or made anywhere else for that matter) crap. Fork out the bucks for something good so it doesn't bite you later. While that may true for complicated equipment with motors like tillers, lawnmowers, and snow blowers that's not the case for simple things like hoses. Pity the fool who buys the cheap snow blower and spends space storing it all summer only to have it crap out during the first blizzard. A hose is kind of hard to screw up manufacturing wise and if it does break they're trivial to fix with splices. I only buy the cheapest hoses sold and my hoses go through the most brutal environmental conditions on my rooftop garden. They stay up there year round and suffer intense heat sitting on a flat rubber roof in the summer to intense sub zero cold during the winter. Only twice in seven years did a bubble appear in the middle one of my main transfer hose that needed to be cut out but that only costs a few dollars each time. Sometimes leaks pop at ends of tributary watering garden hoses due to stress from changing out watering wands but then again, that's trivial and cheap to fix as well. Why spend $50 on a hose when there's one for $20? The thing I do buy quality are hose splices, new ends, and splitters, I only get the copper stuff. The plastic splitters and splices never lasted more than a week in my garden. I can't believe some of you people get warranties for something as simple as a hose and are organized enough to keep track of your hose warranty. I'd rather fix the damn hose myself than even drive to some big box store, stand in line, and explain to some bored clerk that my hose is broke and I want a new one. Actually, I'd be kind of embarrassed doing something like that. Some people, however, have no shame LOL. |
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"Zootal" wrote: Actually, Gilmore irrigation products sold in Lowes and Home Depot come with a lifetime warranty. I've had my 120 foot hose replaced three times now. No questions asked. It's even easier now in the modern day with digital. I simply cut both ends off and take a photo and they send me a new hose. I am certain most people do not take advantage of this service. So remember, Gilmore hoses, watering tools, sprinklers, timers...all have a Lifetime Warranty version. Just look on the packaging. Victoria Meh. I'd rather have a good quality product then a piece of junk that needs replacing periodically. A warranty doesn't do me any good when I have a broken tool that I need now and the stores are closed until Monday. Case in point - I made the mistake of buying a cheap off-brand tiller (you think I would have learned by now to NEVER buy cheap off-brand products). After two years the handle breaks. Replacement? No problem! Just wait 5 weeks for us to get one from the factory. Spring...ground is dry, but rain is coming next week. Till the ground now or wait another month or two for another break in the rain. And my tiller is broken and the best warranty in the world does me no good because I bought a cheap made in China plastic piece of crap and it takes 5 weeks to get a replacement handle. Moral of the story. Never buy cheap plastic made in China (or made anywhere else for that matter) crap. Fork out the bucks for something good so it doesn't bite you later. Apples/Oranges... no comparison between a tiller and a garden hose. For a few bucks one can easily replace a garden hose with a quick trip to any store that sells gardening stuff. A tiller is not so inexpensive to replace (although were I in your spot I'd have rented one for the day). The moral is not about cheap price so much as it is about never buy machinery except from a reliable service center nearby that stocks the parts for and services what it sells. I bought my tiller from the Authorized dealership in town that sells all sorts of farming equipment including huge tractors... when a belt broke on my practically new tiller requiring a couple days wait for a new one to ship they delivered a loaner tiller right to my door, and picked it up three days later when they brought the new belt, installed and test ran it. Never buy mechanical equipment except from a reliable dealership that services what they sell. I would never buy a new tiller, mower, chainsaw, snowblower and such from a big box hardware just because it's $30 cheaper. |
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"Mark Anderson" wrote: Zootal wrote: Moral of the story. Never buy cheap plastic made in China (or made anywhere else for that matter) crap. Fork out the bucks for something good so it doesn't bite you later. While that may true for complicated equipment with motors like tillers, lawnmowers, and snow blowers that's not the case for simple things like hoses. Pity the fool who buys the cheap snow blower and spends space storing it all summer only to have it crap out during the first blizzard. A hose is kind of hard to screw up manufacturing wise and if it does break they're trivial to fix with splices. I only buy the cheapest hoses sold and my hoses go through the most brutal environmental conditions on my rooftop garden. They stay up there year round and suffer intense heat sitting on a flat rubber roof in the summer to intense sub zero cold during the winter. Only twice in seven years did a bubble appear in the middle one of my main transfer hose that needed to be cut out but that only costs a few dollars each time. Sometimes leaks pop at ends of tributary watering garden hoses due to stress from changing out watering wands but then again, that's trivial and cheap to fix as well. Why spend $50 on a hose when there's one for $20? The thing I do buy quality are hose splices, new ends, and splitters, I only get the copper stuff. The plastic splitters and splices never lasted more than a week in my garden. I can't believe some of you people get warranties for something as simple as a hose and are organized enough to keep track of your hose warranty. I'd rather fix the damn hose myself than even drive to some big box store, stand in line, and explain to some bored clerk that my hose is broke and I want a new one. Actually, I'd be kind of embarrassed doing something like that. Some people, however, have no shame LOL. That they have no shame is right... 99.9 percent of garden hose failure is due to user abuse, which is very easy to ascertain, at least you are honest enough to admit that you abuse your garden hoses. When the big box stores replace garden hoses (and other merchandise) under warranty no questions asked it's really for customer good will. The big stores have an agreement with the manufacturers to share the loss., and they know that the products are abused but they sell enough volume that the loss is spread amongst all who buy those products by selling at higher prices. The honest consumers get hosed in all orifices, wealth has been spread around for many years, losses have also been spread around for just as long, if not longer... such policies are nothing new but of late the greed factor has crossed the line and so there'll be hell to pay when it all backfires. Only individuals can decide what level of charity/good will is comfortable and a good cause, but when people are forced to give charity to the undeserving they simply stop giving anything. It's by no accident that Democrat and Depression begin with the same letter, same as Republican and Revolution. |
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On Jul 13, 7:23*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"Zootal" wrote in message ... "Pete C." wrote in message nster.com... SteveB wrote: A coil method of one coil one way, and the next reversed works great, but few can master it. By far the best method to use. One note though is that once a cable / hose / wire has been abused and kinked, it won't coil well no matter what technique you use. Problem with the el-cheapo Wal-Mart/Home-Depot/Costco hoses (yes, even Costco sells these piece of crap hoses) is that it is so very easy to kink them. And as many here have pointed out, once it kinks, it will keep kinking in the same place. I have several of them that I keep on the ground in my garden - I don't coil them up when done, they stay in place where I need them and I just drag them around as needed. And the !@#$ things kink so easly I'm ready to throw the whole lot of them in the trash and go buy an industrial quality hose that I can use without kinking..... My epiphany came when I had a driveway put in. *The company crushed my hose in front of the house. *They bought me another. *A Goodyear 1" black 75 footer with nice cast brass fittings. *I tell you what, that hose was probably $50 or more. *More than I would have ever spent. *It's still going strong after five years, and doesn't look used. *I've bought a couple since then, and there's just no comparison. *With the money I've spent for shitty hoses, I could have good ones everywhere I have hoses. *The end sprayers thread on so much better, and the hose bibb connectors don't leak, too. Steve I, too, bought a Goodyear 5/8" rubber hose at (sob!) Home Despot. (Wish I'd thought of Sears!) It has a much better brass fitting than the ? brand which I returned to H.D. because it leaked at the faucet connection. But to my surprise, the new rubber hose kinks much more than the no-name hose that I returned. Downside of this Goodyear hose is that to use the warranty, you have to send the whole (*&&^%^ hose back, not just both end connectors, as with Gilmore and maybe other brands. Who the hell is going to pay a fortune to ship a ton of hose to wherever? Again, wish I'd thought of Sears where I could just walk it in. Other downside of Goodyear hose is that it kinks a lot. I may have to try Steve's figure -8 solution, though the storage area doesn't lend itself, and I'd have to retrain the gardener. Sigh! Pers. |
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Garden hose
On Jul 8, 3:48*pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
I have two of the home depot variety "kink free" garden hoses. *They are far from kink free, in fact they kink all the time when you stretch them out. When you roll them back up you have to keep flipping the hose the right way so it won't kink. However, I have a very old hose probably more than 15 years I found in this garage and it never kinks. *It does not kink because it does not flatten not even a little bit. *I think it's made of rubber. *Are those better hoses than the modern day vinyl hoses? MC I have had quality ones, cheap ones and medium ones. All kinked and once kinked, always kinked. My solution? The yellow ell cheapos (I get 'em at Wal Mart). Yes they kink but are easily unkinked, usually just by walking down them and kicking them. They also don't kink in the same places. About the same amoutn of kinks as a heavy duty one but the fooling around unkinking beats them hands down. Harry K |
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I have a 1" rubber hose that would never think of kinking, of course, this is a monster. My guess is that thinner hoses will be more likely to kink, look for substance, no matter what you get, if this is a concern. |
Hi there,
I use hoselock hosepipes and dont seem to have a problem with kinking i get the heavy duty form of the hose Hozelock Ultra Tough Heavy Use Hose 30M/100 Ft - Whitehall Garden Centre Ltd which has lasted me around 10 years so far and still seems to be going strong (its coiled up on a wall mounted rack in the sunlight and doesnt seem to have been effected by this. A top tip i would say is use a hose gun on the end of the pipe turn it off at the gun and then at the tap so that you have the water pressure in the pipe and then wind up your pipe. It keeps everything kink free and once it is coiled you just let of the pressure into a nearby pot. Quote:
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