Our Muslim heritage



Barack OBAMA, during his Cairo speech, said: "I know, too, that Islam
has always been a part of America 's story." '



AN AMERICAN CITIZEN'S RESPONSE:



Dear Mr. Obama:



Were those Muslims that were in America when the Pilgrims first landed?
Funny, I thought they were Native American Indians.

Were those Muslims that celebrated the first Thanksgiving day? Sorry
again, those were Pilgrims and Native American Indians.

Can you show me one Muslim signature on the United States Constitution?

Declaration of Independence ?

Bill of Rights?

Didn't think so.

Did Muslims fight for this country's freedom from England ? No.



Did Muslims fight during the Civil War to free the slaves in America ?
No, they did not. In fact, Muslims to this day are still the largest
traffickers in human slavery. Your own half brother, a devout Muslim,
still advocates slavery himself, even though Muslims of Arabic descent
refer to black Muslims as "pug nosed slaves." Says a lot of what the
Muslim world really thinks of your family's "rich Islamic heritage,"
doesn't it Mr. Obama?

Where were Muslims during the Civil Rights era of this country? Not
present.

There are no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking side by side
with Martin Luther King, Jr. or helping to advance the cause of Civil
Rights.

Where were Muslims during this country's Woman's Suffrage era? Again,
not present. In fact, devout Muslims demand that women are subservient
to men in the Islamic culture. So much so, that often they are beaten
for not wearing the 'hajib' or for talking to a man who is not a direct
family member or their husband. Yep, the Muslims are all for women's
rights, aren't they?

Where were Muslims during World War II? They were aligned with Adolf
Hitler. The Muslim grand mufti himself met with Adolf Hitler, reviewed
the troops and accepted support from the Nazi's in killing Jews.

Finally, Mr. Obama, where were Muslims on Sept. 11th, 2001? If they
weren't flying planes into the World Trade Center , the Pentagon or a
field in Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 people on our own soil, they
were rejoicing in the Middle East .. No one can dispute the pictures
shown from all parts of the Muslim world celebrating on CNN, Fox News,
MSNBC and other cable news network's that day. Strangely, the very
"moderate" Muslims who's asses you bent over backwards to kiss in Cairo
, Egypt on June 4th were stone cold silent post 9-11. To many Americans,
their silence has meant approval for the acts of that day.

And THAT, Mr. Obama, is the "rich heritage" Muslims have here in America

On May 21, 6:44*pm, wrote:
* *Our Muslim heritage

* *Barack OBAMA, during his Cairo speech, said: "I know, too, that Islam
* *has always been a part of America 's story." '

He's turned out to be just another politician, kissing ass where he
deems
it expedient, especially to Big Oil, Big Coal, Big Pharma, Big
Insurance,
and Big Wall Street. The entities that are really runniing our
country.

Amazing, how a guy I thought was smart, doesn't realize you don't
extend your hand to mad dogs
who want to bite it off -- whether they're from hostile Muslims or
from the equally-hostile, destructive,
un-American far-far-far-Right wing Republican party (what's left of it
after it's been taken over by those
who openly said, from Inauguration Day onward, that they are working
to wreck Obama's presidency).
Note: I'm an Independent voter, but I really hoped for better from
Obama.

[...]

In article
,
Higgs Boson wrote:

On May 21, 6:44*pm, wrote:
* *Our Muslim heritage

* *Barack OBAMA, during his Cairo speech, said: "I know, too, that Islam
* *has always been a part of America 's story." '

He's turned out to be just another politician, kissing ass where he
deems
it expedient, especially to Big Oil, Big Coal, Big Pharma, Big
Insurance,
and Big Wall Street. The entities that are really runniing our
country.

Amazing, how a guy I thought was smart, doesn't realize you don't
extend your hand to mad dogs
who want to bite it off -- whether they're from hostile Muslims or
from the equally-hostile, destructive,
un-American far-far-far-Right wing Republican party (what's left of it
after it's been taken over by those
who openly said, from Inauguration Day onward, that they are working
to wreck Obama's presidency).
Note: I'm an Independent voter, but I really hoped for better from
Obama.

[...]

I'm with you on this. Still I think we get what we deserve and I do
not see ( in the media) few complaining intelligent voices. God I miss
Bill Moyers already and Keilor is getting there too. What to do?

Saw this (below) the other day. If being smart is a good thing with
all those Harvard folks going to wall street. Wonder I think not still
education of the heart is needed and it may be helped by example and
nothing else. Here is something else just to contradict myself I saw
the other day.

.............

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2010-05/uonr-bih052010.php

Public release date: 20-May-2010
[ Print | E-mail | Share ] [ Close Window ]

Contact: Claudene Wharton

775-784-1169
University of Nevada, Reno
Books in home as important as parents' education in determining
children's education level
University of Nevada, Reno, sociologist leads 20-year study of over
70,000 cases in 27 countries
RENO, Nev. * Whether rich or poor, residents of the United States or
China, illiterate or college graduates, parents who have books in the
home increase the level of education their children will attain,
according to a 20-year study led by Mariah Evans, University of Nevada,
Reno associate professor of sociology and resource economics.
For years, educators have thought the strongest predictor of attaining
high levels of education was having parents who were highly educated.
But, strikingly, this massive study showed that the difference between
being raised in a bookless home compared to being raised in a home with
a 500-book library has as great an effect on the level of education a
child will attain as having parents who are barely literate (3 years of
education) compared to having parents who have a university education
(15 or 16 years of education). Both factors, having a 500-book library
or having university-educated parents, propel a child 3.2 years further
in education, on average.
Being a sociologist, Evans was particularly interested to find that
children of lesser-educated parents benefit the most from having books
in the home. She has been looking for ways to help Nevada's rural
communities, in terms of economic development and education.
"What kinds of investments should we be making to help these kids get
ahead?" she asked. "The results of this study indicate that getting some
books into their homes is an inexpensive way that we can help these
children succeed."
Evans said, "Even a little bit goes a long way," in terms of the number
of books in a home. Having as few as 20 books in the home still has a
significant impact on propelling a child to a higher level of education,
and the more books you add, the greater the benefit.
"You get a lot of 'bang for your book'," she said. "It's quite a good
return-on-investment in a time of scarce resources."
In some countries, such as China, having 500 or more books in the home
propels children 6.6 years further in their education. In the United
States, the effect is less, 2.4 years, than the 3.2-year average
advantage experienced across all 27 countries in the study. But, Evans
points out that 2.4 years is still a significant advantage in terms of
educational attainment.
For example, according to the U.S. Census Bureau's American Community
Survey, Americans who have some college or an associate's degree, but
not a bachelor's degree, earn an average of $7,213 more annually than
those with just a high school education. Those who attain a bachelor's
degree earn $21,185 more each year, on average, than those with just
high school diplomas.
The study by Evans and her colleagues at Nevada, UCLA and Australian
National University is one of the largest and most comprehensive studies
ever conducted on what influences the level of education a child will
attain.
The researchers were struck by the strong effect having books in the
home had on children's educational attainment even above and beyond such
factors as education level of the parents, the country's GDP, the
father's occupation or the political system of the country.
Having books in the home is twice as important as the father's education
level, and more important than whether a child was reared in China or
the United States. Surprisingly, the difference in educational
attainment for children born in the United States and children born in
China was just 2 years, less than two-thirds the effect that having 500
or more books in the home had on children (3.2 years).

###
The study, "Family scholarly culture and educational success: Books and
schooling in 27 nations," was published in the journal, Research in
Social Stratification and Mobility (online at www.sciencedirect.com).
Nevada's land-grant university founded in 1874, the University of
Nevada, Reno has an enrollment of nearly 17,000 students. The University
is home to one the country's largest study-abroad programs and the
state's medical school, and offers outreach and education programs in
all Nevada counties. For more information, visit www.unr.edu.

--
Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden
What use one more wake up call?

In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Higgs Boson wrote:

On May 21, 6:44*pm, wrote:
* *Our Muslim heritage

* *Barack OBAMA, during his Cairo speech, said: "I know, too, that Islam
* *has always been a part of America 's story." '

He's turned out to be just another politician, kissing ass where he
deems
it expedient, especially to Big Oil, Big Coal, Big Pharma, Big
Insurance,
and Big Wall Street. The entities that are really runniing our
country.

Amazing, how a guy I thought was smart, doesn't realize you don't
extend your hand to mad dogs
who want to bite it off -- whether they're from hostile Muslims or
from the equally-hostile, destructive,
un-American far-far-far-Right wing Republican party (what's left of it
after it's been taken over by those
who openly said, from Inauguration Day onward, that they are working
to wreck Obama's presidency).
Note: I'm an Independent voter, but I really hoped for better from
Obama.

[...]

I'm with you on this. Still I think we get what we deserve and I do
not see ( in the media) few complaining intelligent voices. God I miss
Bill Moyers already and Keilor is getting there too. What to do?

Saw this (below) the other day. If being smart is a good thing with
all those Harvard folks going to wall street. Wonder I think not still
education of the heart is needed and it may be helped by example and
nothing else. Here is something else just to contradict myself I saw
the other day.

Isn't it obvious that what the public thinks doesn't matter.

Sunday, May 23, 2010
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows
that 26% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack
Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-three percent (43%)
Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating
of -17

27% are even somewhat confident that Congress knows what it¹s doing when
addressing that nation¹s economic challenges.

Forty-one percent (41%) of voters say that a group of people randomly
selected from the phone book would do a better job than the current
Congress. Thirty-eight percent (38%) disagree.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ama_administra
tion/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

What we need is for these "baby killers" to bring our troops home, cut
military spending in half, and give us campaign finance reform, but . .
.. that ain't gonna happen.

What will happen is national wealth will keep disappearing into private
pockets, and we'll be left with a huge public debt, like Greece, and
just when the citizenry start to boil over, a "new threat" will emerge
to take our minds off what a bunch of thieves they are. If they though
they had enough bayonets, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Welcome to the "new and improved" feudalism.

............

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2010-05/uonr-bih052010.php

Public release date: 20-May-2010
[ Print | E-mail | Share ] [ Close Window ]

Contact: Claudene Wharton

775-784-1169
University of Nevada, Reno
Books in home as important as parents' education in determining
children's education level
University of Nevada, Reno, sociologist leads 20-year study of over
70,000 cases in 27 countries
RENO, Nev. * Whether rich or poor, residents of the United States or
China, illiterate or college graduates, parents who have books in the
home increase the level of education their children will attain,
according to a 20-year study led by Mariah Evans, University of Nevada,
Reno associate professor of sociology and resource economics.
For years, educators have thought the strongest predictor of attaining
high levels of education was having parents who were highly educated.
But, strikingly, this massive study showed that the difference between
being raised in a bookless home compared to being raised in a home with
a 500-book library has as great an effect on the level of education a
child will attain as having parents who are barely literate (3 years of
education) compared to having parents who have a university education
(15 or 16 years of education). Both factors, having a 500-book library
or having university-educated parents, propel a child 3.2 years further
in education, on average.
Being a sociologist, Evans was particularly interested to find that
children of lesser-educated parents benefit the most from having books
in the home. She has been looking for ways to help Nevada's rural
communities, in terms of economic development and education.
"What kinds of investments should we be making to help these kids get
ahead?" she asked. "The results of this study indicate that getting some
books into their homes is an inexpensive way that we can help these
children succeed."
Evans said, "Even a little bit goes a long way," in terms of the number
of books in a home. Having as few as 20 books in the home still has a
significant impact on propelling a child to a higher level of education,
and the more books you add, the greater the benefit.
"You get a lot of 'bang for your book'," she said. "It's quite a good
return-on-investment in a time of scarce resources."
In some countries, such as China, having 500 or more books in the home
propels children 6.6 years further in their education. In the United
States, the effect is less, 2.4 years, than the 3.2-year average
advantage experienced across all 27 countries in the study. But, Evans
points out that 2.4 years is still a significant advantage in terms of
educational attainment.
For example, according to the U.S. Census Bureau's American Community
Survey, Americans who have some college or an associate's degree, but
not a bachelor's degree, earn an average of $7,213 more annually than
those with just a high school education. Those who attain a bachelor's
degree earn $21,185 more each year, on average, than those with just
high school diplomas.
The study by Evans and her colleagues at Nevada, UCLA and Australian
National University is one of the largest and most comprehensive studies
ever conducted on what influences the level of education a child will
attain.
The researchers were struck by the strong effect having books in the
home had on children's educational attainment even above and beyond such
factors as education level of the parents, the country's GDP, the
father's occupation or the political system of the country.
Having books in the home is twice as important as the father's education
level, and more important than whether a child was reared in China or
the United States. Surprisingly, the difference in educational
attainment for children born in the United States and children born in
China was just 2 years, less than two-thirds the effect that having 500
or more books in the home had on children (3.2 years).

###
The study, "Family scholarly culture and educational success: Books and
schooling in 27 nations," was published in the journal, Research in
Social Stratification and Mobility (online at www.sciencedirect.com).
Nevada's land-grant university founded in 1874, the University of
Nevada, Reno has an enrollment of nearly 17,000 students. The University
is home to one the country's largest study-abroad programs and the
state's medical school, and offers outreach and education programs in
all Nevada counties. For more information, visit www.unr.edu.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Higgs Boson wrote:

On May 21, 6:44 pm, wrote:
Our Muslim heritage

Barack OBAMA, during his Cairo speech, said: "I know, too, that
Islam
has always been a part of America 's story." '

He's turned out to be just another politician, kissing ass where he
deems
it expedient, especially to Big Oil, Big Coal, Big Pharma, Big
Insurance,
and Big Wall Street. The entities that are really runniing our
country.

Amazing, how a guy I thought was smart, doesn't realize you don't
extend your hand to mad dogs
who want to bite it off -- whether they're from hostile Muslims or
from the equally-hostile, destructive,
un-American far-far-far-Right wing Republican party (what's left of it
after it's been taken over by those
who openly said, from Inauguration Day onward, that they are working
to wreck Obama's presidency).
Note: I'm an Independent voter, but I really hoped for better from
Obama.

[...]

I'm with you on this. Still I think we get what we deserve and I do
not see ( in the media) few complaining intelligent voices. God I miss
Bill Moyers already and Keilor is getting there too. What to do?

Saw this (below) the other day. If being smart is a good thing with
all those Harvard folks going to wall street. Wonder I think not still
education of the heart is needed and it may be helped by example and
nothing else. Here is something else just to contradict myself I saw
the other day.

Isn't it obvious that what the public thinks doesn't matter.

Sunday, May 23, 2010
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows
that 26% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack
Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-three percent (43%)
Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating
of -17

27% are even somewhat confident that Congress knows what it¹s doing when
addressing that nation¹s economic challenges.

Forty-one percent (41%) of voters say that a group of people randomly
selected from the phone book would do a better job than the current
Congress. Thirty-eight percent (38%) disagree.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ama_administra
tion/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

What we need is for these "baby killers" to bring our troops home, cut
military spending in half, and give us campaign finance reform, but . .
. that ain't gonna happen.

What will happen is national wealth will keep disappearing into private
pockets, and we'll be left with a huge public debt, like Greece, and
just when the citizenry start to boil over, a "new threat" will emerge
to take our minds off what a bunch of thieves they are. If they though
they had enough bayonets, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Welcome to the "new and improved" feudalism.

............

Make sure you have a lot of guns, you might need them some day.

In article ,
"aluckyguess" wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Higgs Boson wrote:

On May 21, 6:44 pm, wrote:
Our Muslim heritage

Barack OBAMA, during his Cairo speech, said: "I know, too, that
Islam
has always been a part of America 's story." '

He's turned out to be just another politician, kissing ass where he
deems
it expedient, especially to Big Oil, Big Coal, Big Pharma, Big
Insurance,
and Big Wall Street. The entities that are really runniing our
country.

Amazing, how a guy I thought was smart, doesn't realize you don't
extend your hand to mad dogs
who want to bite it off -- whether they're from hostile Muslims or
from the equally-hostile, destructive,
un-American far-far-far-Right wing Republican party (what's left of it
after it's been taken over by those
who openly said, from Inauguration Day onward, that they are working
to wreck Obama's presidency).
Note: I'm an Independent voter, but I really hoped for better from
Obama.

[...]

I'm with you on this. Still I think we get what we deserve and I do
not see ( in the media) few complaining intelligent voices. God I miss
Bill Moyers already and Keilor is getting there too. What to do?

Saw this (below) the other day. If being smart is a good thing with
all those Harvard folks going to wall street. Wonder I think not still
education of the heart is needed and it may be helped by example and
nothing else. Here is something else just to contradict myself I saw
the other day.

Isn't it obvious that what the public thinks doesn't matter.

Sunday, May 23, 2010
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows
that 26% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack
Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-three percent (43%)
Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating
of -17

27% are even somewhat confident that Congress knows what it¹s doing when
addressing that nation¹s economic challenges.

Forty-one percent (41%) of voters say that a group of people randomly
selected from the phone book would do a better job than the current
Congress. Thirty-eight percent (38%) disagree.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ama_administra
tion/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

What we need is for these "baby killers" to bring our troops home, cut
military spending in half, and give us campaign finance reform, but . .
. that ain't gonna happen.

What will happen is national wealth will keep disappearing into private
pockets, and we'll be left with a huge public debt, like Greece, and
just when the citizenry start to boil over, a "new threat" will emerge
to take our minds off what a bunch of thieves they are. If they though
they had enough bayonets, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Welcome to the "new and improved" feudalism.

............

Make sure you have a lot of guns, you might need them some day.

Problem being is that when your door comes off its hinges at 3 AM, you
can only hope it's the police ('course that didn't help Fred Hampton
none). The good folks of Sreberneza were told that there was a curfew.
They were found at home at 3 AM.

I'm reminded of the story of the guy that was run off a cliff by wolves.
He caught a branch on the way down, which was good, because when he
looked down, he saw more wolves. Then the branch moved, and he saw that
it was coming loose from the cliff. Looking about for something that
would help, he saw a ripe strawberry clinging to the cliff. Reaching
out, he grabbed the strawberry, and put it into his mouth, where he
savored the flavor. It's a story that we all share.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

How does this relate to gardening you stupid ****??


"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Higgs Boson wrote:

On May 21, 6:44 pm, wrote:
Our Muslim heritage

Barack OBAMA, during his Cairo speech, said: "I know, too, that Islam
has always been a part of America 's story." '

He's turned out to be just another politician, kissing ass where he
deems
it expedient, especially to Big Oil, Big Coal, Big Pharma, Big
Insurance,
and Big Wall Street. The entities that are really runniing our
country.

Amazing, how a guy I thought was smart, doesn't realize you don't
extend your hand to mad dogs
who want to bite it off -- whether they're from hostile Muslims or
from the equally-hostile, destructive,
un-American far-far-far-Right wing Republican party (what's left of it
after it's been taken over by those
who openly said, from Inauguration Day onward, that they are working
to wreck Obama's presidency).
Note: I'm an Independent voter, but I really hoped for better from
Obama.

[...]

I'm with you on this. Still I think we get what we deserve and I do
not see ( in the media) few complaining intelligent voices. God I miss
Bill Moyers already and Keilor is getting there too. What to do?

Saw this (below) the other day. If being smart is a good thing with
all those Harvard folks going to wall street. Wonder I think not still
education of the heart is needed and it may be helped by example and
nothing else. Here is something else just to contradict myself I saw
the other day.

Isn't it obvious that what the public thinks doesn't matter.

Sunday, May 23, 2010
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows
that 26% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack
Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-three percent (43%)
Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating
of -17

27% are even somewhat confident that Congress knows what it¹s doing when
addressing that nation¹s economic challenges.

Forty-one percent (41%) of voters say that a group of people randomly
selected from the phone book would do a better job than the current
Congress. Thirty-eight percent (38%) disagree.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ama_administra
tion/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

What we need is for these "baby killers" to bring our troops home, cut
military spending in half, and give us campaign finance reform, but . .
. that ain't gonna happen.

What will happen is national wealth will keep disappearing into private
pockets, and we'll be left with a huge public debt, like Greece, and
just when the citizenry start to boil over, a "new threat" will emerge
to take our minds off what a bunch of thieves they are. If they though
they had enough bayonets, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Welcome to the "new and improved" feudalism.

............

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2010-05/uonr-bih052010.php

Public release date: 20-May-2010
[ Print | E-mail | Share ] [ Close Window ]

Contact: Claudene Wharton

775-784-1169
University of Nevada, Reno
Books in home as important as parents' education in determining
children's education level
University of Nevada, Reno, sociologist leads 20-year study of over
70,000 cases in 27 countries
RENO, Nev. * Whether rich or poor, residents of the United States or
China, illiterate or college graduates, parents who have books in the
home increase the level of education their children will attain,
according to a 20-year study led by Mariah Evans, University of Nevada,
Reno associate professor of sociology and resource economics.
For years, educators have thought the strongest predictor of attaining
high levels of education was having parents who were highly educated.
But, strikingly, this massive study showed that the difference between
being raised in a bookless home compared to being raised in a home with
a 500-book library has as great an effect on the level of education a
child will attain as having parents who are barely literate (3 years of
education) compared to having parents who have a university education
(15 or 16 years of education). Both factors, having a 500-book library
or having university-educated parents, propel a child 3.2 years further
in education, on average.
Being a sociologist, Evans was particularly interested to find that
children of lesser-educated parents benefit the most from having books
in the home. She has been looking for ways to help Nevada's rural
communities, in terms of economic development and education.
"What kinds of investments should we be making to help these kids get
ahead?" she asked. "The results of this study indicate that getting some
books into their homes is an inexpensive way that we can help these
children succeed."
Evans said, "Even a little bit goes a long way," in terms of the number
of books in a home. Having as few as 20 books in the home still has a
significant impact on propelling a child to a higher level of education,
and the more books you add, the greater the benefit.
"You get a lot of 'bang for your book'," she said. "It's quite a good
return-on-investment in a time of scarce resources."
In some countries, such as China, having 500 or more books in the home
propels children 6.6 years further in their education. In the United
States, the effect is less, 2.4 years, than the 3.2-year average
advantage experienced across all 27 countries in the study. But, Evans
points out that 2.4 years is still a significant advantage in terms of
educational attainment.
For example, according to the U.S. Census Bureau's American Community
Survey, Americans who have some college or an associate's degree, but
not a bachelor's degree, earn an average of $7,213 more annually than
those with just a high school education. Those who attain a bachelor's
degree earn $21,185 more each year, on average, than those with just
high school diplomas.
The study by Evans and her colleagues at Nevada, UCLA and Australian
National University is one of the largest and most comprehensive studies
ever conducted on what influences the level of education a child will
attain.
The researchers were struck by the strong effect having books in the
home had on children's educational attainment even above and beyond such
factors as education level of the parents, the country's GDP, the
father's occupation or the political system of the country.
Having books in the home is twice as important as the father's education
level, and more important than whether a child was reared in China or
the United States. Surprisingly, the difference in educational
attainment for children born in the United States and children born in
China was just 2 years, less than two-thirds the effect that having 500
or more books in the home had on children (3.2 years).

###
The study, "Family scholarly culture and educational success: Books and
schooling in 27 nations," was published in the journal, Research in
Social Stratification and Mobility (online at www.sciencedirect.com).
Nevada's land-grant university founded in 1874, the University of
Nevada, Reno has an enrollment of nearly 17,000 students. The University
is home to one the country's largest study-abroad programs and the
state's medical school, and offers outreach and education programs in
all Nevada counties. For more information, visit www.unr.edu.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

In article ,
"Thos" wrote:

How does this relate to gardening you stupid ****??
Which stupid **** are you talking to asshole?


"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Higgs Boson wrote:

On May 21, 6:44 pm, wrote:
Our Muslim heritage

Barack OBAMA, during his Cairo speech, said: "I know, too, that Islam
has always been a part of America 's story." '

He's turned out to be just another politician, kissing ass where he
deems
it expedient, especially to Big Oil, Big Coal, Big Pharma, Big
Insurance,
and Big Wall Street. The entities that are really runniing our
country.

Amazing, how a guy I thought was smart, doesn't realize you don't
extend your hand to mad dogs
who want to bite it off -- whether they're from hostile Muslims or
from the equally-hostile, destructive,
un-American far-far-far-Right wing Republican party (what's left of it
after it's been taken over by those
who openly said, from Inauguration Day onward, that they are working
to wreck Obama's presidency).
Note: I'm an Independent voter, but I really hoped for better from
Obama.

[...]

I'm with you on this. Still I think we get what we deserve and I do
not see ( in the media) few complaining intelligent voices. God I miss
Bill Moyers already and Keilor is getting there too. What to do?

Saw this (below) the other day. If being smart is a good thing with
all those Harvard folks going to wall street. Wonder I think not still
education of the heart is needed and it may be helped by example and
nothing else. Here is something else just to contradict myself I saw
the other day.

Isn't it obvious that what the public thinks doesn't matter.

Sunday, May 23, 2010
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows
that 26% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack
Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-three percent (43%)
Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating
of -17

27% are even somewhat confident that Congress knows what it¹s doing when
addressing that nation¹s economic challenges.

Forty-one percent (41%) of voters say that a group of people randomly
selected from the phone book would do a better job than the current
Congress. Thirty-eight percent (38%) disagree.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ama_administra
tion/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

What we need is for these "baby killers" to bring our troops home, cut
military spending in half, and give us campaign finance reform, but . .
. that ain't gonna happen.

What will happen is national wealth will keep disappearing into private
pockets, and we'll be left with a huge public debt, like Greece, and
just when the citizenry start to boil over, a "new threat" will emerge
to take our minds off what a bunch of thieves they are. If they though
they had enough bayonets, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Welcome to the "new and improved" feudalism.

............

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2010-05/uonr-bih052010.php

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Contact: Claudene Wharton

775-784-1169
University of Nevada, Reno
Books in home as important as parents' education in determining
children's education level
University of Nevada, Reno, sociologist leads 20-year study of over
70,000 cases in 27 countries
RENO, Nev. * Whether rich or poor, residents of the United States or
China, illiterate or college graduates, parents who have books in the
home increase the level of education their children will attain,
according to a 20-year study led by Mariah Evans, University of Nevada,
Reno associate professor of sociology and resource economics.
For years, educators have thought the strongest predictor of attaining
high levels of education was having parents who were highly educated.
But, strikingly, this massive study showed that the difference between
being raised in a bookless home compared to being raised in a home with
a 500-book library has as great an effect on the level of education a
child will attain as having parents who are barely literate (3 years of
education) compared to having parents who have a university education
(15 or 16 years of education). Both factors, having a 500-book library
or having university-educated parents, propel a child 3.2 years further
in education, on average.
Being a sociologist, Evans was particularly interested to find that
children of lesser-educated parents benefit the most from having books
in the home. She has been looking for ways to help Nevada's rural
communities, in terms of economic development and education.
"What kinds of investments should we be making to help these kids get
ahead?" she asked. "The results of this study indicate that getting some
books into their homes is an inexpensive way that we can help these
children succeed."
Evans said, "Even a little bit goes a long way," in terms of the number
of books in a home. Having as few as 20 books in the home still has a
significant impact on propelling a child to a higher level of education,
and the more books you add, the greater the benefit.
"You get a lot of 'bang for your book'," she said. "It's quite a good
return-on-investment in a time of scarce resources."
In some countries, such as China, having 500 or more books in the home
propels children 6.6 years further in their education. In the United
States, the effect is less, 2.4 years, than the 3.2-year average
advantage experienced across all 27 countries in the study. But, Evans
points out that 2.4 years is still a significant advantage in terms of
educational attainment.
For example, according to the U.S. Census Bureau's American Community
Survey, Americans who have some college or an associate's degree, but
not a bachelor's degree, earn an average of $7,213 more annually than
those with just a high school education. Those who attain a bachelor's
degree earn $21,185 more each year, on average, than those with just
high school diplomas.
The study by Evans and her colleagues at Nevada, UCLA and Australian
National University is one of the largest and most comprehensive studies
ever conducted on what influences the level of education a child will
attain.
The researchers were struck by the strong effect having books in the
home had on children's educational attainment even above and beyond such
factors as education level of the parents, the country's GDP, the
father's occupation or the political system of the country.
Having books in the home is twice as important as the father's education
level, and more important than whether a child was reared in China or
the United States. Surprisingly, the difference in educational
attainment for children born in the United States and children born in
China was just 2 years, less than two-thirds the effect that having 500
or more books in the home had on children (3.2 years).

###
The study, "Family scholarly culture and educational success: Books and
schooling in 27 nations," was published in the journal, Research in
Social Stratification and Mobility (online at www.sciencedirect.com).
Nevada's land-grant university founded in 1874, the University of
Nevada, Reno has an enrollment of nearly 17,000 students. The University
is home to one the country's largest study-abroad programs and the
state's medical school, and offers outreach and education programs in
all Nevada counties. For more information, visit www.unr.edu.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

In article ,
wrote:

Our Muslim heritage



Barack OBAMA, during his Cairo speech, said: "I know, too, that Islam
has always been a part of America 's story." '



AN AMERICAN CITIZEN'S RESPONSE:

The earliest documented cases of Muslims to come to the United States
were two West African slaves: Ayuba Suleiman Diallo, who was brought to
America in 1731 and returned to Africa in 1734,[1] and Omar Ibn Said in
the mid 19th century. There has been some speculation that a Moor slave
Estevanico of Azamor, who had converted to Christianity [2][3][4] 14
years before his arrival in North America in the early 16th century, was
at least the first born Muslim to enter the historical record in North
America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States

". . . more than 3,500 Muslims have deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan,
according to Defense Department figures provided to The Times. As of
2006, some 212 Muslim-American soldiers had been awarded Combat Action
Ribbons for their service in Iraq and Afghanistan, and seven had been
killed."
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/us...pagewanted=all

Looks like the religion has a right to be here, it's paid for in blood
and service.

Disrespecting another American's religion, isn't the American way.
Neither is killing non-combatants, and calling them "collateral damage",
to use Timothy McVeigh's words.

You break it, you own it.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

Our Muslim heritage



Barack OBAMA, during his Cairo speech, said: "I know, too, that Islam
has always been a part of America 's story." '



AN AMERICAN CITIZEN'S RESPONSE:

The earliest documented cases of Muslims to come to the United States
were two West African slaves: Ayuba Suleiman Diallo, who was brought to
America in 1731 and returned to Africa in 1734,[1] and Omar Ibn Said in
the mid 19th century. There has been some speculation that a Moor slave
Estevanico of Azamor, who had converted to Christianity [2][3][4] 14
years before his arrival in North America in the early 16th century, was
at least the first born Muslim to enter the historical record in North
America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States

". . . more than 3,500 Muslims have deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan,
according to Defense Department figures provided to The Times. As of
2006, some 212 Muslim-American soldiers had been awarded Combat Action
Ribbons for their service in Iraq and Afghanistan, and seven had been
killed."
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/us...pagewanted=all

Looks like the religion has a right to be here, it's paid for in blood
and service.

Disrespecting another American's religion, isn't the American way.
Neither is killing non-combatants, and calling them "collateral damage",
to use Timothy McVeigh's words.

You break it, you own it.

Sorts of reminds me of WWII and the Japanese interment camps and how
those American citizens fought with distinction. At lest we don't have
interment camps but it is so easy to forget and relive our cultural
mistakes just because the name or nomenclature changes. We are human.

One thing for sure the faceless enemy is always close by in our minds.

911 1 creep from Jordan the rest from Saudi Arabia . Taliban suck if
for no other reason for me than the destruction of the largest stone
twin Buddhas in the world.... dam fanatics.

I am not a Buddhist BTW.

http://www.google.com/images?client=...&q=afghanistan
+art&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=A5r5S_nzLoKC8ga7uqjdCg&sa=X&oi=im age_re
sult_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CC4QsAQwAA

--
Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden
What use one more wake up call?

schreef:

AN AMERICAN CITIZEN'S RESPONSE

[...]


What the hell has this rubbish to do with gardening?

And I will never understand how it can be possible that men just classify
human beings because of such things as religion, race or gender. We all
should have learned from history where such an attitude leads to.

Islam is one of the bigger religions in this world. Being a happy atheist I
think that all religions should hve the same rights. why sould a certain
religion be discriminated and the other ones not?

Groetjes uit Arft,

Dirk

--
D. Weber
Arft, Germany (50°23'N 7°5'E)
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In article ,
Dirk Weber wrote:

schreef:

AN AMERICAN CITIZEN'S RESPONSE

[...]


What the hell has this rubbish to do with gardening?

And I will never understand how it can be possible that men just classify
human beings because of such things as religion, race or gender. We all
should have learned from history where such an attitude leads to.

Islam is one of the bigger religions in this world. Being a happy atheist I
think that all religions should hve the same rights. why sould a certain
religion be discriminated and the other ones not?

Groetjes uit Arft,

Dirk

You are right, of course, we will be moving on to more appropriates
subjects now.

Germany, eh? Woher? Do you grow cucumbers, and if so, what kind? What
else do you grow?
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

Billy schreef:

You are right, of course, we will be moving on to more appropriates
subjects now.

ok, makes more sen;-)

Germany, eh? Woher? Do you grow cucumbers, and if so, what kind? What
else do you grow?
You see the coordinates in the signature? Have a look at openmaps or some
other map site and you will see that we live in western Germany, in a
region called "Eifel", a bit hilly, a lot of forests and unfortunately not
so many work places. We live some 3 or 4 miles away from the Nürburgring,
maybe you have heard of that racing course.

We bought a small house here in Arft some years ago. It is a bit older, was
built in 1928 as a small farm house (very small farm, just one or two cows
and a pig, people in this region were very poor. We have some 600 square
meters of ground in total which results in some 350 square meters for our
garden.

Since we are no farmers (my wife is a nurse and I am an office worker) we
do not have much time for gardening. So we just have that very old plum
tree and a lot of grass. We plan to plant some hedges in order to get rid
of that ugly fence. And some bushes for the toads to hide under.

We live some 520 meters above sea level which results in our climate to be
a bit rougher than in the Rhine valley. This year's spring was lousy, cold
and wet. Some two weeks ago we even had some night frost, today it is
rather misty.

There is not really a chance to grow cucumbers here unless you grow them in
a greenhouse. Same with tomatoes. But we had very tasty strawberries here.
Unfortunately my wife is allergic against strawberries, so we removed them.

We intend to grow some herbs. Problem is that we have little time and there
is only a short time to bring the seeds into the ground. In March we still
had snow and it was rather cold, now it is already too late. So maybe next
year. We will set up a kind of "pocket greenhouse" for the herbs then it
should work.

Groetjes uit Arft,

Dirk Weber

ps

that is Dutch and means greetings from Arft ;-)
I worked for some three years in The Netherlands and learned some Dutch
there.
dw

--
D. Weber
Arft, Germany (50°23'N 7°5'E)
If possible, no html mails please

In article ,
Dirk Weber wrote:

Billy schreef:

You are right, of course, we will be moving on to more appropriates
subjects now.

ok, makes more sen;-)

Germany, eh? Woher? Do you grow cucumbers, and if so, what kind? What
else do you grow?
You see the coordinates in the signature? Have a look at openmaps or some
other map site and you will see that we live in western Germany, in a
region called "Eifel", a bit hilly, a lot of forests and unfortunately not
so many work places. We live some 3 or 4 miles away from the Nürburgring,
maybe you have heard of that racing course.

We bought a small house here in Arft some years ago. It is a bit older, was
built in 1928 as a small farm house (very small farm, just one or two cows
and a pig, people in this region were very poor. We have some 600 square
meters of ground in total which results in some 350 square meters for our
garden.

Since we are no farmers (my wife is a nurse and I am an office worker) we
do not have much time for gardening. So we just have that very old plum
tree and a lot of grass. We plan to plant some hedges in order to get rid
of that ugly fence. And some bushes for the toads to hide under.

We live some 520 meters above sea level which results in our climate to be
a bit rougher than in the Rhine valley. This year's spring was lousy, cold
and wet. Some two weeks ago we even had some night frost, today it is
rather misty.

There is not really a chance to grow cucumbers here unless you grow them in
a greenhouse. Same with tomatoes. But we had very tasty strawberries here.
Unfortunately my wife is allergic against strawberries, so we removed them.

We intend to grow some herbs. Problem is that we have little time and there
is only a short time to bring the seeds into the ground. In March we still
had snow and it was rather cold, now it is already too late. So maybe next
year. We will set up a kind of "pocket greenhouse" for the herbs then it
should work.

Groetjes uit Arft,

Dirk Weber

ps

that is Dutch and means greetings from Arft ;-)
I worked for some three years in The Netherlands and learned some Dutch
there.
dw

Don't be so modest, it was only 15°C (60°F) today here in northern
California, and 520 meters (1,700 ft.) isn't that high. Surely, there
will be time to grow a garden. You have those wonderfully long days in
the summer. There are tomatoes that only take 60 days to ripen (Stupice,
Glacier,Siletz, usw), lettuce, herbs that you must be able to grow. If
you are interested, I'm sure other posters can recommend short season
tomatoes too, or you can look on Google. Maybe you just need a wind
break. If you have seen anything about our discussions on "lasagna
gardening", you should know that it is a low effort means of
establishing a Bio-garden.

We've driven the autobahn that goes to Trier and followed the Mosel from
Koblenz to Trier, so we know a little of your region, besides, I love
Bitburg beer ;O)

When we were traveling, we would always stay in Bad Ems. We arrived
there accidentally, in early April of 1982. We were in jet-lag, and it
was snowing, and all we wanted was to get off the road, get warm, and
sleep. Altogether now, we've spent nearly a year there. We still have
friends there, and feel very attached to the place.

Hope you hang around the newsgroup, and I hope you get a garden in this
year, even a small one.

Tschuß,

70 miles north of San Francisco, region 9
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

In article ,
Dirk Weber wrote:

schreef:

AN AMERICAN CITIZEN'S RESPONSE

[...]


What the hell has this rubbish to do with gardening?

And I will never understand how it can be possible that men just classify
human beings because of such things as religion, race or gender. We all
should have learned from history where such an attitude leads to.

Islam is one of the bigger religions in this world. Being a happy atheist I
think that all religions should hve the same rights. why sould a certain
religion be discriminated and the other ones not?

Groetjes uit Arft,

Dirk

Entshudigen Sie mir, bitte. Es ist eine lange Zeit, seit Ich habe auf
Deutsch geschreibt. Wo wohnen Sie in Deutschland and welche Art von
Gemüse bauen Sie an??
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html