Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. Once they drink some water....game over. I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.

- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?

- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.

- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?

I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

On Jan 26, 7:58*am, Gas Bag wrote:
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. *They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. *Once they drink some water....game over. *I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.

- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?

- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? *The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? *e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? *I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.

- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?

I really would appreciate some advice. *Thanks.

Never heard that one. But any bait poison runs the risk of the animal
dying somewhere in your house. In 99% of the cases the carcase just
dries up. Or flys find it and it gets eaten by maggots.

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

On 1/26/2011 8:30 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:58 am, Gas wrote:
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. Once they drink some water....game over. I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.

- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?

- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.

- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?

I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard that one. But any bait poison runs the risk of the animal
dying somewhere in your house. In 99% of the cases the carcase just
dries up. Or flys find it and it gets eaten by maggots.

I agree. You take a chance with poison baits in the house. After
getting one bad stink a couple of years ago from a poisoned mouse, I now
use traps only.

I don't know about flour/cement but rats do not have a throwing up
reflex and once they eat something, it has to pass through their
digestive system where it may kill them.

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag
wrote:

- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?

- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

If you have rodents in your attic then you are very remiss in sealing
their entry to your house... believe it or not it is quite easy to
eliminate entryways. Seal your house and if rodents are still present
set traps... they obviously have free roam of your entire house
because rodents cannot live without food and water... also eliminate
their access to your food... you are definitely feeding those critters
or they'd not be there.

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On Jan 26, 5:30*am, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jan 26, 7:58*am, Gas Bag wrote:





I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. *They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. *Once they drink some water....game over. *I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.

- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?

- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? *The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? *e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? *I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.

- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?

I really would appreciate some advice. *Thanks.

Never heard that one. *But any bait poison runs the risk of the animal
dying somewhere in your house. *In 99% of the cases the carcase just
dries up. *Or flys find it and it gets eaten by maggots.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yep. I find that D-Con works wonders and the animals don't smell for
some reason. I keep a bait box with it in the basement and find and
occasional dead mouse - never smelled one for many a year now.

The 'flour/cement' is an oldy home recipe. Just as enticing to pets
as it is to rodents. Needs to be in places the pets can't get to just
like any commercial poison.

Harry K

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

Gas Bag wrote:
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. Once they drink some water....game over. I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.

- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?

- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.

- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?

I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

An overdose of vitamin D will kill them, use that.

--
LSMFT

Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

On Jan 26, 6:58*am, Gas Bag wrote:
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. *They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. *Once they drink some water....game over. *I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.

- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?

- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? *The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? *e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? *I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.

- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?

I really would appreciate some advice. *Thanks.

Then if it worked why wouldnt someone be selling it. My dogs wont eat
cement I dont think a rat will. I use poison inside, traps are a pain.
The smell of a dead mose is gone in a week and so are all the mice.
With traps its a constant battle you dont know if you ever win. Do
both, traps and poison

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

In article
,
ransley wrote:

On Jan 26, 6:58*am, Gas Bag wrote:
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. *They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. *Once they drink some water....game over. *I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.

- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?

- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? *The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? *e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? *I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.

- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?

I really would appreciate some advice. *Thanks.

Then if it worked why wouldnt someone be selling it. My dogs wont eat
cement I dont think a rat will. I use poison inside, traps are a pain.
The smell of a dead mose is gone in a week and so are all the mice.
With traps its a constant battle you dont know if you ever win. Do
both, traps and poison

Be careful of where you put the poison. I lost 2 cats last year to
poisoning, cats that were encouraged by neighbors, because they were
"mousers".
--
- Billy
³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.²
-Archbishop Helder Camara
http://peace.mennolink.org/articles/...acegroups.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth...130964689.html
20111812130964689.html

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:52:01 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:

Billy wrote:

Be careful of where you put the poison. I lost 2 cats last year to
poisoning, cats that were encouraged by neighbors, because they were
"mousers".

Why did you put your cats outdoors, you ignorant POS... you need to be
poisoned... actually I'd be happy to tie you into a sack with a few
bricks and toss you into a lake.

Why would you keep your cats locked up inside?

Animal cruelty.

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jellybean stonerfish wrote the following:
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:52:01 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:


Billy wrote:

Be careful of where you put the poison. I lost 2 cats last year to
poisoning, cats that were encouraged by neighbors, because they were
"mousers".

Why did you put your cats outdoors, you ignorant POS... you need to be
poisoned... actually I'd be happy to tie you into a sack with a few
bricks and toss you into a lake.


Why would you keep your cats locked up inside?

Animal cruelty.


Keeps them clean and free of burrs, ticks, and fleas. Keeps them from
getting killed by cars, dogs, or cat haters, or being carried away by hawks.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

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Brooklyn needs to be locked in a dark closet for the rest of
his life, for animal cruelty.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"jellybean stonerfish" wrote in
message ...
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:52:01 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:


Why did you put your cats outdoors, you ignorant POS...
you need to be
poisoned... actually I'd be happy to tie you into a sack
with a few
bricks and toss you into a lake.

Why would you keep your cats locked up inside?

Animal cruelty.

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

I guess you're too ignorant to know that cats are outdoor
animals. We'd better lock you in a dark closet for the rest
of your life.

Did anyone else catch the irony? Brookyn, condemning
cruelty, offers to use the same cruel technique he decries.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Brooklyn1" Gravesend1 wrote in message
...

Why did you put your cats outdoors, you ignorant POS... you
need to be
poisoned... actually I'd be happy to tie you into a sack
with a few
bricks and toss you into a lake.

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

On Jan 26, 9:30*am, Harry K wrote:
On Jan 26, 5:30*am, jamesgangnc wrote:



On Jan 26, 7:58*am, Gas Bag wrote:

I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. *They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. *Once they drink some water....game over. *I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.

- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?

- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? *The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? *e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? *I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.

- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?

I really would appreciate some advice. *Thanks.

Never heard that one. *But any bait poison runs the risk of the animal
dying somewhere in your house. *In 99% of the cases the carcase just
dries up. *Or flys find it and it gets eaten by maggots.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yep. *I find that D-Con works wonders and the animals don't smell for
some reason. *I keep a bait box with it in the basement and find and
occasional dead mouse - never smelled one for many a year now.

The 'flour/cement' is an oldy home recipe. *Just as enticing to pets
as it is to rodents. *Needs to be in places the pets can't get to just
like any commercial poison.

Harry K

Maybe it's D-CONcrete in it dat kills 'em!

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag
wrote:

I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...

Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezQKOl5q-w

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:30:41 -0800 (PST), Harry K
wrote:

Yep. I find that D-Con works wonders and the animals don't smell for
some reason. I keep a bait box with it in the basement and find and
occasional dead mouse - never smelled one for many a year now

Interesting. MY grandfather used D-Con around his place in the 50s.
After heavy rains the rats would head for a puddle of water to drink
and die. They did smell nasty I recall. Luckily they went outside to
drink.

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

willshak wrote:
jellybean stonerfish wrote the following:
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:52:01 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:


Billy wrote:

Be careful of where you put the poison. I lost 2 cats last year to
poisoning, cats that were encouraged by neighbors, because they
were "mousers".

Why did you put your cats outdoors, you ignorant POS... you need to
be poisoned... actually I'd be happy to tie you into a sack with a
few bricks and toss you into a lake.


Why would you keep your cats locked up inside?

Animal cruelty.


Keeps them clean and free of burrs, ticks, and fleas. Keeps them from
getting killed by cars, dogs, or cat haters, or being carried away by
hawks.

And keeps them from digging up the neighbor's freshly planted veggies and
pooping in their spinach.

I have to put screens over the beds whenever I plant because of neighbor's
uncontrolled cats.

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"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag
wrote:

I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...

Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

In article ,
"Colbyt" wrote:

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

I've thought about it, but the little rat keeps running away ;O)
--
- Billy
³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.²
-Archbishop Helder Camara
http://peace.mennolink.org/articles/...acegroups.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth...130964689.html
20111812130964689.html

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:31:23 -0500, "Colbyt"
wrote:


"Oren" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag
wrote:

I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...

Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.


Certainly. A hangman's noose for rats would possibly work.

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On 1/26/2011 6:03 PM, Bob F wrote:
willshak wrote:
jellybean stonerfish wrote the following:
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:52:01 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:


wrote:

Be careful of where you put the poison. I lost 2 cats last year to
poisoning, cats that were encouraged by neighbors, because they
were "mousers".

Why did you put your cats outdoors, you ignorant POS... you need to
be poisoned... actually I'd be happy to tie you into a sack with a
few bricks and toss you into a lake.


Why would you keep your cats locked up inside?

Animal cruelty.


Keeps them clean and free of burrs, ticks, and fleas. Keeps them from
getting killed by cars, dogs, or cat haters, or being carried away by
hawks.

And keeps them from digging up the neighbor's freshly planted veggies and
pooping in their spinach.

I have to put screens over the beds whenever I plant because of neighbor's
uncontrolled cats.


Better that than a smelly cat box (and yes, they ALL do smell- the
owners are just desensitized), and a cat that starts trashing furniture
and becoming crazy and/or obese from lack of stimulation and exercise.
And before you say it, I consider declawing to be animal cruelty. How
would you like the last joint of all your fingers and toes cut off?

Sorry, 'indoor only' cats may live longer, but they aren't cats any
more. I could never do that to a sentient creature.

--
aem sends...

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:25:23 -0500, willshak wrote:

jellybean stonerfish wrote the following:



Why would you keep your cats locked up inside?

Animal cruelty.


Keeps them clean and free of burrs, ticks, and fleas. Keeps them from
getting killed by cars, dogs, or cat haters, or being carried away by
hawks.

Would you be happy, living a comfortable life in a jail. Most cats need
open space to explore. Deprived of that, they get depressed.

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:46:39 -0800, Billy wrote:

In article ,
"Colbyt" wrote:

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

I've thought about it, but the little rat keeps running away ;O)

Time to bring the cats back into the thread....

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On Jan 26, 3:31*pm, "Colbyt" wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message

...

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag
wrote:

I really would appreciate some advice. *Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...

Cheap: build one of these. *They work on mice and rats.

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again. One time was enough to turn my stomach.

Harry K

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On 1/27/2011 9:59 AM, Harry K wrote:
On Jan 26, 3:31 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag
wrote:

I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...

Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again. One time was enough to turn my stomach.

Harry K

You should see what a rat trap does to a mouse. The look on the face
of the little mouse conveys extreme surprise and shocked disbelief
after the bar crushes its little backside. The last ultrasonic squeak
of WTF in mouse-speak is frozen in its tiny countenance forever or
until it is consumed by other smaller vermin or it desiccates and
eventually turns to dust. :-)

TDD

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:58:23 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 1/27/2011 9:59 AM, Harry K wrote:
On Jan 26, 3:31 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag
wrote:

I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...

Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again. One time was enough to turn my stomach.

Harry K

You should see what a rat trap does to a mouse. The look on the face
of the little mouse conveys extreme surprise and shocked disbelief
after the bar crushes its little backside. The last ultrasonic squeak
of WTF in mouse-speak is frozen in its tiny countenance forever or
until it is consumed by other smaller vermin or it desiccates and
eventually turns to dust. :-)

TDD

Speaking of "humane" disposition of rats and mice: Flour & cement
powder can't be an easy way to die.

A rat shows up in the local emergency room with a trap snapped around
his neck. No insurance or any papers.

The ER nurse exclaims: "You have to tell us what is wrong."

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On 1/27/2011 5:08 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:58:23 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 1/27/2011 9:59 AM, Harry K wrote:
On Jan 26, 3:31 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag
wrote:

I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...

Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again. One time was enough to turn my stomach.

Harry K

You should see what a rat trap does to a mouse. The look on the face
of the little mouse conveys extreme surprise and shocked disbelief
after the bar crushes its little backside. The last ultrasonic squeak
of WTF in mouse-speak is frozen in its tiny countenance forever or
until it is consumed by other smaller vermin or it desiccates and
eventually turns to dust. :-)

TDD

Speaking of "humane" disposition of rats and mice: Flour& cement
powder can't be an easy way to die.

A rat shows up in the local emergency room with a trap snapped around
his neck. No insurance or any papers.

The ER nurse exclaims: "You have to tell us what is wrong."

Back in the early 70's I had a handlebar on a Honda 750 snap off at
100mph. I hitched a ride to the emergency room and when I walked in,
a nurse rushed up to me and exclaimed "Oh my God you had a motorcycle
accident!" I answered "No lady I fell out of an airplane." She said
"Well come over here and fill out this paperwork." I was standing
there with blood dripping off the end of my fingers, my clothes were
tattered and bloody and my helmet looked like it had been pushed up
against a big grinding wheel at various angles. Another nurse walked
up and said to the first nurse "Shut up, put him in there." It was one
of the more interesting experiences in my life. :-)

TDD

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On Jan 27, 5:39*pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 1/27/2011 5:08 PM, Oren wrote:



On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:58:23 -0600, The Daring Dufas
*wrote:

On 1/27/2011 9:59 AM, Harry K wrote:
On Jan 26, 3:31 pm, * wrote:
* wrote in message

m...

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag
* wrote:

I really would appreciate some advice. *Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...

Cheap: build one of these. *They work on mice and rats.

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again. *One time was enough to turn my stomach.

Harry K

You should see what a rat trap does to a mouse. The look on the face
of the little mouse conveys extreme surprise and shocked disbelief
after the bar crushes its little backside. The last ultrasonic squeak
of WTF in mouse-speak is frozen in its tiny countenance forever or
until it is consumed by other smaller vermin or it desiccates and
eventually turns to dust. :-)

TDD

Speaking of "humane" disposition of rats and mice: Flour& *cement
powder can't be an easy way to die.

A rat shows up in the local emergency room with a trap snapped around
his neck. No insurance or any papers.

The ER nurse exclaims: *"You have to tell us what is wrong."

Back in the early 70's I had a handlebar on a Honda 750 snap off at
100mph. I hitched a ride to the emergency room and when I walked in,
a nurse rushed up to me and exclaimed "Oh my God you had a motorcycle
accident!" I answered "No lady I fell out of an airplane." She said
"Well come over here and fill out this paperwork." I was standing
there with blood dripping off the end of my fingers, my clothes were
tattered and bloody and my helmet looked like it had been pushed up
against a big grinding wheel at various angles. Another nurse walked
up and said to the first nurse "Shut up, put him in there." It was one
of the more interesting experiences in my life. :-)

TDD

100mph! That's where you get your name!

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

On 1/27/2011 5:58 PM, Bob Villa wrote:
On Jan 27, 5:39 pm, The Daring
wrote:
On 1/27/2011 5:08 PM, Oren wrote:



On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:58:23 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 1/27/2011 9:59 AM, Harry K wrote:
On Jan 26, 3:31 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag
wrote:

I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...

Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again. One time was enough to turn my stomach.

Harry K

You should see what a rat trap does to a mouse. The look on the face
of the little mouse conveys extreme surprise and shocked disbelief
after the bar crushes its little backside. The last ultrasonic squeak
of WTF in mouse-speak is frozen in its tiny countenance forever or
until it is consumed by other smaller vermin or it desiccates and
eventually turns to dust. :-)

TDD

Speaking of "humane" disposition of rats and mice: Flour& cement
powder can't be an easy way to die.

A rat shows up in the local emergency room with a trap snapped around
his neck. No insurance or any papers.

The ER nurse exclaims: "You have to tell us what is wrong."

Back in the early 70's I had a handlebar on a Honda 750 snap off at
100mph. I hitched a ride to the emergency room and when I walked in,
a nurse rushed up to me and exclaimed "Oh my God you had a motorcycle
accident!" I answered "No lady I fell out of an airplane." She said
"Well come over here and fill out this paperwork." I was standing
there with blood dripping off the end of my fingers, my clothes were
tattered and bloody and my helmet looked like it had been pushed up
against a big grinding wheel at various angles. Another nurse walked
up and said to the first nurse "Shut up, put him in there." It was one
of the more interesting experiences in my life. :-)

TDD

100mph! That's where you get your name!

Yea, I passed a tractor trailer rig that was doing 80 and I was on foot. :-0

TDD

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:39:22 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 1/27/2011 5:08 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:58:23 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 1/27/2011 9:59 AM, Harry K wrote:
On Jan 26, 3:31 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:58:22 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag
wrote:

I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.

Never heard of that mixture before...

Cheap: build one of these. They work on mice and rats.

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezQKOl5q-w

A quick snap of the neck seems more humane to me.

Being "humane" is the reason I will never, ever use a 'glue trap'
again. One time was enough to turn my stomach.

Harry K

You should see what a rat trap does to a mouse. The look on the face
of the little mouse conveys extreme surprise and shocked disbelief
after the bar crushes its little backside. The last ultrasonic squeak
of WTF in mouse-speak is frozen in its tiny countenance forever or
until it is consumed by other smaller vermin or it desiccates and
eventually turns to dust. :-)

TDD

Speaking of "humane" disposition of rats and mice: Flour& cement
powder can't be an easy way to die.

A rat shows up in the local emergency room with a trap snapped around
his neck. No insurance or any papers.

The ER nurse exclaims: "You have to tell us what is wrong."

Back in the early 70's I had a handlebar on a Honda 750 snap off at
100mph. I hitched a ride to the emergency room and when I walked in,
a nurse rushed up to me and exclaimed "Oh my God you had a motorcycle
accident!" I answered "No lady I fell out of an airplane." She said
"Well come over here and fill out this paperwork." I was standing
there with blood dripping off the end of my fingers, my clothes were
tattered and bloody and my helmet looked like it had been pushed up
against a big grinding wheel at various angles. Another nurse walked
up and said to the first nurse "Shut up, put him in there." It was one
of the more interesting experiences in my life. :-)

TDD

In a fairly routine I would take individuals in the ER. The nurses
constantly would ask "what is wrong with him?"

Finely after getting a case of the ass, blurting out -- "this one has
4 - 6 stab wounds in his chest ... red foam is gurgling from his
chest... he ran out of air or is about to."

Then I told her to stabilize him and we can get 'em to "Danville".

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On Jan 26, 10:58*pm, Gas Bag wrote:
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. *They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. *Once they drink some water....game over. *I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.

- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?

- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? *The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? *e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? *I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.

- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?

I really would appreciate some advice. *Thanks.


Quite a lot of replies, but I am hoping someone can actually respond
specifically to my queries. Where I may place a flour/cement mix,
there would be no other animals, only rats or mice. Totally sealing
up the roofspace 100% is not a viable option at the moment.

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 02:53:51 -0800 (PST), Gas Bag
wrote:

On Jan 26, 10:58*pm, Gas Bag wrote:
I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. *They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. *Once they drink some water....game over. *I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.

- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?

- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? *The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? *e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? *I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.

- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?

I really would appreciate some advice. *Thanks.


Quite a lot of replies, but I am hoping someone can actually respond
specifically to my queries. Where I may place a flour/cement mix,
there would be no other animals, only rats or mice.

Totally sealing up the roofspace 100% is not a viable option at the moment.

Why not?

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

aemeijers wrote:

And keeps them from digging up the neighbor's freshly planted
veggies and pooping in their spinach.

I have to put screens over the beds whenever I plant because of
neighbor's uncontrolled cats.


Better that than a smelly cat box (and yes, they ALL do smell- the
owners are just desensitized), and a cat that starts trashing
furniture and becoming crazy and/or obese from lack of stimulation
and exercise. And before you say it, I consider declawing to be
animal cruelty. How would you like the last joint of all your fingers
and toes cut off?
Sorry, 'indoor only' cats may live longer, but they aren't cats any
more. I could never do that to a sentient creature.

But you have no hesitation to do a number on your neighbors with your cats.

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

On Jan 30, 4:53*am, Gas Bag wrote:
On Jan 26, 10:58*pm, Gas Bag wrote:



I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
corn flour and cement powder. *They eat the mixture, then go in search
of water. *Once they drink some water....game over. *I have a few
specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.

- How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?

- Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
drink of water? *The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
awful smell to contend with a few days later.

- Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? *e.g. Powdered parmesan
cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
chopped meat (raw or cooked)? *I am just taking a wild guess here, as
I don't know what would attract them.

- Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?

I really would appreciate some advice. *Thanks.

Quite a lot of replies, but I am hoping someone can actually respond
specifically to my queries. *Where I may place a flour/cement mix,
there would be no other animals, only rats or mice. *Totally sealing
up the roofspace 100% is not a viable option at the moment.

What about mine..."D'CONcrete is whot make it work mon!"

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:38:52 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

aemeijers wrote:

And keeps them from digging up the neighbor's freshly planted
veggies and pooping in their spinach.

I have to put screens over the beds whenever I plant because of
neighbor's uncontrolled cats.


Better that than a smelly cat box (and yes, they ALL do smell- the
owners are just desensitized), and a cat that starts trashing
furniture and becoming crazy and/or obese from lack of stimulation
and exercise. And before you say it, I consider declawing to be
animal cruelty. How would you like the last joint of all your fingers
and toes cut off?
Sorry, 'indoor only' cats may live longer, but they aren't cats any
more. I could never do that to a sentient creature.

But you have no hesitation to do a number on your neighbors with your cats.

People who put house cats out can't possibly care about their pets any
more than people who put their five year olds out to play on the
freeway. Domesticated cats are not ferral, they have very few outdoor
survival skills if any. Most folks who are annoyed by their neighbors
pet cats will shoot them. .177 pellet guns make no noise and leave no
identifying traces.. more cats die from gun shot than from any other
cause. Anyone who puts a house cat out because they think they are
harming a sentient creature by keeping it indoors is a pinhead with a
lower IQ than any cat. And cats don't smell, not unless they are ill.
Exuding no odor is just one way how nature made felines one of the
best hunters on the planet, which is why they also bury their waste,
the only animal that does. Naturally the lazy *******s that don't
regularly clean the cat box are who smell, not the cat. Humans
smell... and I'm positive if I ever visited your terlits I'd about die
from the stench.

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 16:26:20 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:38:52 -0800, "Bob F" wrote:

aemeijers wrote:

And keeps them from digging up the neighbor's freshly planted veggies
and pooping in their spinach.

I have to put screens over the beds whenever I plant because of
neighbor's uncontrolled cats.


Better that than a smelly cat box (and yes, they ALL do smell- the
owners are just desensitized), and a cat that starts trashing
furniture and becoming crazy and/or obese from lack of stimulation and
exercise. And before you say it, I consider declawing to be animal
cruelty. How would you like the last joint of all your fingers and
toes cut off?
Sorry, 'indoor only' cats may live longer, but they aren't cats any
more. I could never do that to a sentient creature.

But you have no hesitation to do a number on your neighbors with your
cats.

I made a nice toilet for my cat, outside. I filled some planters with a
nice sand. One, the most used by the cat, is 50 feet long, by 3 feet
wide. There are enough plants, where the cat has privacy. There is no
problem with too many poops, as they just decompose, the sprinklers come
on every other day. Also my yard has other areas for the cat to poo,
hang out and play in. The dog also likes to be in the yard, and protects
the cat from any larger creatures that may stray in. The cat can come inside
when it wants to. Sometimes, when we leave the animals are all locked
outside with food and water. I taught the dog to be ok when left alone.
As a puppy, I made sure he had plenty of alone time, and plenty of time
with strangers. I didn't want my pet to be dependent on me for comfort.
Of course the dog and cat love to come in at night, but a couple of times
a week I make them stay out, to maintain their comfort with being alone.

It is late, forgive me for grammar or spelling mistakes.

People who put house cats out can't possibly care about their pets any
more than people who put their five year olds out to play on the
freeway. Domesticated cats are not ferral, they have very few outdoor
survival skills if any. Most folks who are annoyed by their neighbors
pet cats will shoot them. .177 pellet guns make no noise and leave no
identifying traces.. more cats die from gun shot than from any other
cause. Anyone who puts a house cat out because they think they are
harming a sentient creature by keeping it indoors is a pinhead with a
lower IQ than any cat. And cats don't smell, not unless they are ill.
Exuding no odor is just one way how nature made felines one of the best
hunters on the planet, which is why they also bury their waste, the only
animal that does. Naturally the lazy *******s that don't regularly
clean the cat box are who smell, not the cat. Humans smell... and I'm
positive if I ever visited your terlits I'd about die from the stench.

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

In article ,
Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:38:52 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

aemeijers wrote:

And keeps them from digging up the neighbor's freshly planted
veggies and pooping in their spinach.

I have to put screens over the beds whenever I plant because of
neighbor's uncontrolled cats.


Better that than a smelly cat box (and yes, they ALL do smell- the
owners are just desensitized), and a cat that starts trashing
furniture and becoming crazy and/or obese from lack of stimulation
and exercise. And before you say it, I consider declawing to be
animal cruelty. How would you like the last joint of all your fingers
and toes cut off?
Sorry, 'indoor only' cats may live longer, but they aren't cats any
more. I could never do that to a sentient creature.

But you have no hesitation to do a number on your neighbors with your cats.

(1)
People who put house cats out can't possibly care about their pets any
more than people who put their five year olds out to play on the
freeway.
(2)
Domesticated cats are not ferral, they have very few outdoor
survival skills if any.
(3)
Most folks who are annoyed by their neighbors
pet cats will shoot them. .177 pellet guns make no noise and leave no
identifying traces.. more cats die from gun shot than from any other
cause.
(4)
Anyone who puts a house cat out because they think they are
harming a sentient creature by keeping it indoors is a pinhead with a
lower IQ than any cat.

And cats don't smell, not unless they are ill.
Exuding no odor is just one way how nature made felines one of the
best hunters on the planet, which is why they also bury their waste,
the only animal that does.

Naturally the lazy *******s that don't
regularly clean the cat box are who smell, not the cat. Humans
smell... and I'm positive if I ever visited your terlits I'd about die
from the stench.

God, where to begin?

(1) Citation other than your backside, please. Can you name a study
supporting this view?

(2) Learn spelling and meaning of word before you use it.
Feral (F-E-R-A-L): in a wild state, esp. after escape from captivity or
domestication : a feral cat. Domesticated cats are not feral by
definition.

(3) The leading causes of death in cats: Feline diabetes, AIDS, and
Kidney failure.

(4) People will let a cat out, because that is where the cat wants to be.
I'm sure with exercise, you could grow up to be a pin-head yourself.

(5) "Exuding no odor is just one way how nature made felines one of the
best hunters on the planet."- Citation please to support this statement.

Cats have scent glands along the tail, on each side of their head, on
their lips, base of their tail, chin, near their sex organs, and between
their front paws. They use these glands to scent mark their territory.
When the cat rubs you, he is marking you with his scent, claiming you as
"his." Too, he is picking up your scent. Cats rub up against furniture
or doorways for the same reason - to mark the item as "his". (Urine
spraying is also a territorial marking, by the way.)
http://www.xmission.com/~emailbox/whycat.htm
----

Shelly is our group's version of Ruppert Murdock's Fox News. The more
you listen to him, the less you know.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw

Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries
 

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:38:52 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

aemeijers wrote:

And keeps them from digging up the neighbor's freshly planted
veggies and pooping in their spinach.

I have to put screens over the beds whenever I plant because of
neighbor's uncontrolled cats.


Better that than a smelly cat box (and yes, they ALL do smell- the
owners are just desensitized), and a cat that starts trashing
furniture and becoming crazy and/or obese from lack of stimulation
and exercise. And before you say it, I consider declawing to be
animal cruelty. How would you like the last joint of all your fingers
and toes cut off?
Sorry, 'indoor only' cats may live longer, but they aren't cats any
more. I could never do that to a sentient creature.

But you have no hesitation to do a number on your neighbors with your cats.

(1)
People who put house cats out can't possibly care about their pets any
more than people who put their five year olds out to play on the
freeway.
(2)
Domesticated cats are not ferral, they have very few outdoor
survival skills if any.
(3)
Most folks who are annoyed by their neighbors
pet cats will shoot them. .177 pellet guns make no noise and leave no
identifying traces.. more cats die from gun shot than from any other
cause.
(4)
Anyone who puts a house cat out because they think they are
harming a sentient creature by keeping it indoors is a pinhead with a
lower IQ than any cat.

(5)
And cats don't smell, not unless they are ill.
Exuding no odor is just one way how nature made felines one of the
best hunters on the planet, which is why they also bury their waste,
the only animal that does.

Naturally the lazy *******s that don't
regularly clean the cat box are who smell, not the cat. Humans
smell... and I'm positive if I ever visited your terlits I'd about die
from the stench.

God, where to begin?

(1) Citation other than your backside, please. Can you name a study
supporting this view?

(2) Learn spelling and meaning of word before you use it.
Feral (F-E-R-A-L): in a wild state, esp. after escape from captivity or
domestication : a feral cat. Domesticated cats are not feral by
definition.

(3) The leading causes of death in cats: Feline diabetes, AIDS, and
Kidney failure.

(4) People will let a cat out, because that is where the cat wants to be.
I'm sure with exercise, you could grow up to be a pin-head yourself.

(5) "Exuding no odor is just one way how nature made felines one of the
best hunters on the planet."- Citation please to support this statement.

Cats have scent glands along the tail, on each side of their head, on
their lips, base of their tail, chin, near their sex organs, and between
their front paws. They use these glands to scent mark their territory.
When the cat rubs you, he is marking you with his scent, claiming you as
"his." Too, he is picking up your scent. Cats rub up against furniture
or doorways for the same reason - to mark the item as "his". (Urine
spraying is also a territorial marking, by the way.)
http://www.xmission.com/~emailbox/whycat.htm
In feral cat colonies, subordinate cats cover their waste, while
dominant ferals leave it conspicuously uncovered. Most indoor cats bury
their waste, possibly to display subordination to their humans.
Sometimes in multi-cat households, however, the dominant cat will leave
waste uncovered to indicate his status.
Ibid

----

Shelly is our group's version of Ruppert Murdock's Fox News. The more
you listen to him, the less you know.
--
- Billy
"When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist."
-Archbishop Helder Camara
http://peace.mennolink.org/articles/...acegroups.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth...130964689.html

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replying to Frank, Gilla Badaloo wrote:
I have done it before. Jamaicans always do this and its a real killer, lol, I
just set some as well. I have to do it like once every 3 years. So now is a
bit later than usual but I saw a mice and I have to get rid of it. The point.
The instant they consume the mixture, they do realize something odd and just
like us, we want something to flush it down, so they search, i normally set a
container cause I am a nice rat killer. Yes you may put cheese and meat to
attract them, It is just an additional treat. Oh, the smell, get prepared, its
either you deal with the smell or you deal with leptustirosis. I choses smell.
I allow my pup to search and then we keep a memorial.

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replying to Gas Bag, Kevin Kirkpatrick wrote:
Tile grout will work too. It is very effective but I don't know how you can
know where they will die. I would put out straight flour for a week the add
cement. The lime in cement helps with smell somewhat . I never add anything to
it as I don't want it to spoil and smell. They est it just fine as is.

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replying to jellybean stonerfish, Kevin Kirkpatrick wrote:
Cats work well also as rat and mice preventers. Especially outdoor barn cats
who live outside all the time

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