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James 30-07-2011 06:14 PM

Roundup Question ??
 
I have a small flower planting area of about 25 sq. ft. When I plant
flowers in it each summer, the weeds come up so bad, I can keep up with
weeding it each week. (I also much about 3 or 4 inches, but that doesn't
stop these weeds).

Before I plant flowers, if I soak the ground with Roundup, how long would I
have to wait to plant the flowers ?

thanks !!

James



Billy[_10_] 30-07-2011 06:23 PM

Roundup Question ??
 
In article ,
"James" wrote:

I have a small flower planting area of about 25 sq. ft. When I plant
flowers in it each summer, the weeds come up so bad, I can keep up with
weeding it each week. (I also much about 3 or 4 inches, but that doesn't
stop these weeds).

Before I plant flowers, if I soak the ground with Roundup, how long would I
have to wait to plant the flowers ?

thanks !!

James


This is the problem with putting chemicals in the hands of the ignorant.

You can put down newspapers and mulch to suppress weeds.
--
- Billy
Obama is now backing a bipartisan Senate budget plan that would cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy. In addition to entitlement cuts, the so-called "Gang of Six" plan would eliminate a number of popular tax breaks and deductions, including write-offs for home mortgage interest and employer-provided health benefits. The savings would help offset the cost of then lowering the top individual and corporate tax rates from 35 percent to at least 29 percent.

America is not broke.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/


You put Lloyd Blankfein in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for one six-month term, and all this bullshit would stop, all over Wall Street. That's all it would take. Just once.
Vote 3rd Party

David E. Ross[_2_] 30-07-2011 07:01 PM

Roundup Question ??
 
On 7/30/11 10:14 AM, James wrote:
I have a small flower planting area of about 25 sq. ft. When I plant
flowers in it each summer, the weeds come up so bad, I can keep up with
weeding it each week. (I also much about 3 or 4 inches, but that doesn't
stop these weeds).

Before I plant flowers, if I soak the ground with Roundup, how long would I
have to wait to plant the flowers ?

thanks !!

James



Roundup is not a pre-emergent herbicide. It works only on growing
plants, not on seeds.

What kind of mulch are you using?

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

James 30-07-2011 07:25 PM

Roundup Question ??
 
Using cedar mulch.

James



Brooklyn1 30-07-2011 07:49 PM

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"James" wrote:

Using cedar mulch.


There's your problem... closet weeds coming out...

David Hare-Scott[_2_] 30-07-2011 10:47 PM

Roundup Question ??
 
James wrote:
I have a small flower planting area of about 25 sq. ft. When I
plant flowers in it each summer, the weeds come up so bad, I can
keep up with weeding it each week. (I also much about 3 or 4
inches, but that doesn't stop these weeds).

Before I plant flowers, if I soak the ground with Roundup, how long
would I have to wait to plant the flowers ?

thanks !!

James


Roundup only works on growing plants. There is something wrong with either
what you are using for mulch or how you are doing it.

David


James 30-07-2011 11:59 PM

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Pray tell what are closet weeds ??



Billy[_10_] 31-07-2011 12:19 AM

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In article ,
"James" wrote:

Pray tell what are closet weeds ??


Don't worry about it. It only gets worse when you understand him.
--
- Billy
Obama is now backing a bipartisan Senate budget plan that would cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy. In addition to entitlement cuts, the so-called "Gang of Six" plan would eliminate a number of popular tax breaks and deductions, including write-offs for home mortgage interest and employer-provided health benefits. The savings would help offset the cost of then lowering the top individual and corporate tax rates from 35 percent to at least 29 percent.

America is not broke.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/


You put Lloyd Blankfein in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for one six-month term, and all this bullshit would stop, all over Wall Street. That's all it would take. Just once.
Vote 3rd Party

David E. Ross[_2_] 31-07-2011 01:18 AM

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On 7/30/11 11:25 AM, James wrote:
Using cedar mulch.

James



Cedar bark, wood chips, or needles?

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

Steve B[_6_] 31-07-2011 05:16 AM

Roundup Question ??
 

"James" wrote in message
net...
I have a small flower planting area of about 25 sq. ft. When I plant
flowers in it each summer, the weeds come up so bad, I can keep up with
weeding it each week. (I also much about 3 or 4 inches, but that doesn't
stop these weeds).

Before I plant flowers, if I soak the ground with Roundup, how long would
I have to wait to plant the flowers ?

thanks !!

James


I bought some new stuff called Preen. It is pre-emergent, meaning you put
it on when the weeds AREN'T there, and it keeps them from sprouting. Says
it can be cultivated right into soil next to existing plants. Check it out.
I hope it works as good as it says, I have a large area that needs weed
control.

Steve



Bob F 31-07-2011 06:07 AM

Roundup Question ??
 
James wrote:
I have a small flower planting area of about 25 sq. ft. When I
plant flowers in it each summer, the weeds come up so bad, I can
keep up with weeding it each week. (I also much about 3 or 4
inches, but that doesn't stop these weeds).

Before I plant flowers, if I soak the ground with Roundup, how long
would I have to wait to plant the flowers ?


Soaking the ground with roundup would be a waste of it. It has to be sprayed on
growing plants to work.

If you keep up with the weeding, and never let them go to seed, you will have
much less work after a couple years. If your weeds are perenials, you need to
kill them off or pull them before they have any chance to grow much greenery
every time. It is a lot easier to pull or hoe the weeds early when they are
small than it is when they get big, so do it often.

Do not let the bed grow weeds in the off season, or you just continue the
problem. Everytime a weed goes to seed, you will be fighting the weeds for more
years.



Billy[_10_] 31-07-2011 06:18 AM

Roundup Question ??
 
In article ,
"Steve B" wrote:

"James" wrote in message
net...
I have a small flower planting area of about 25 sq. ft. When I plant
flowers in it each summer, the weeds come up so bad, I can keep up with
weeding it each week. (I also much about 3 or 4 inches, but that doesn't
stop these weeds).

Before I plant flowers, if I soak the ground with Roundup, how long would
I have to wait to plant the flowers ?

thanks !!

James


I bought some new stuff called Preen. It is pre-emergent, meaning you put
it on when the weeds AREN'T there, and it keeps them from sprouting. Says
it can be cultivated right into soil next to existing plants. Check it out.
I hope it works as good as it says, I have a large area that needs weed
control.

Steve


But, one man's plant is another person's weed.
--
- Billy
Obama is now backing a bipartisan Senate budget plan that would cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy. In addition to entitlement cuts, the so-called "Gang of Six" plan would eliminate a number of popular tax breaks and deductions, including write-offs for home mortgage interest and employer-provided health benefits. The savings would help offset the cost of then lowering the top individual and corporate tax rates from 35 percent to at least 29 percent.

America is not broke.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/


You put Lloyd Blankfein in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for one six-month term, and all this bullshit would stop, all over Wall Street. That's all it would take. Just once.
Vote 3rd Party

Brooklyn1 31-07-2011 02:35 PM

Roundup Question ??
 
"James" wrote:

I have a small flower planting area of about 25 sq. ft. When I plant
flowers in it each summer, the weeds come up so bad, I can keep up with
weeding it each week.


25 sq ft is a plot the size of an ordinary full size mattress, weeding
can't take more than 15 minutes a week... you can't be for real... do
you at least bathe once a week, I bet you think wiping your ass is too
much work.

James 31-07-2011 07:06 PM

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Brooklyn1, are most Brooklynites about on your same intellectual level, or
are most of them rather sane and decent ????


James



James 31-07-2011 07:07 PM

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By the way, the mulch is cedar bark.

James



Chris Thompson[_2_] 31-07-2011 08:41 PM

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"James" wrote in
:

Brooklyn1, are most Brooklynites about on your same intellectual
level, or are most of them rather sane and decent ????


James




I live really close to Brooklyn and most of them are nicer. He COULD use a
short lesson from Dale Carnegie.

That being said, there are alternatives to the chemical solution. 25 ft^2
is really not that hard to mulch. If you are not having success with your
current mulch, it's time to try a different one.

Do you start your flowers from seed, or do you use seedlings? If the
latter, spreading some black plastic garbage bags over the plot before you
plant them, and then using a trowel to punch holes in the plastic where you
want to plant should work just fine. You can then cover the bags with
whatever mulch you like best- the bags will stop almost anything else from
growing.

Salt hay also works wonders, if you can get it. It's a beach grass, and
suppresses weeds because it high in, well, salt.

Someone else mentioned newspaper. That works well too, and like the plastic
bags, just lay them out over the plot, punch a hole where you want to plant
a flower, and after you're done planting, cover it all up with your cedar.

If you're planting seeds, things get more complicated.

All best,

Chris

David E. Ross[_2_] 31-07-2011 09:05 PM

Roundup Question ??
 
On 7/31/11 11:07 AM, James wrote:
By the way, the mulch is cedar bark.

James


To inhibit weeds, you might need a mulch that is more dense.

I use hardwood leaves -- ash, oak, liquidambar, and zelkova -- and allow
them to pack down. I rake the leaves from my lawn and paved areas in
the autumn and place them in my beds. I also place fallen small
branches over the leaves to prevent the wind from removing them. Around
my oak (Quercus lobata), I anchor the leaf mulch with chickenwire pegged
into the ground.

Around my camellias, I use the output of my office shredder.

Both leaves and shredded paper form dense layers throught which weeds
have trouble growing. No, they don't completely prevent weeds; but they
sure do inhibit them.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

James 31-07-2011 09:09 PM

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Chris, thanks for the ideas... I am planting grown plants from small
containers....

james



Priscilla H. Ballou 03-08-2011 05:36 PM

Roundup Question ??
 
In article ,
Chris Thompson wrote:

Someone else mentioned newspaper. That works well too, and like the plastic
bags, just lay them out over the plot, punch a hole where you want to plant
a flower, and after you're done planting, cover it all up with your cedar.

If you're planting seeds, things get more complicated.


I laid out newspapers with long narrow gaps where the furrows for the
seeds were. I then planted the seeds in the furrows. I did that with
cucumbers and then did a similar thing on my other summer gourds
(zucchini and crooknecks), only leaving small squares rather than long
furrows.

VERY few weeds. Peachy!

Priscilla

Chris Thompson[_2_] 03-08-2011 06:31 PM

Roundup Question ??
 
"Priscilla H. Ballou" wrote in
:

In article ,
Chris Thompson wrote:

Someone else mentioned newspaper. That works well too, and like the
plastic bags, just lay them out over the plot, punch a hole where you
want to plant a flower, and after you're done planting, cover it all
up with your cedar.

If you're planting seeds, things get more complicated.


I laid out newspapers with long narrow gaps where the furrows for the
seeds were. I then planted the seeds in the furrows. I did that with
cucumbers and then did a similar thing on my other summer gourds
(zucchini and crooknecks), only leaving small squares rather than long
furrows.

VERY few weeds. Peachy!

Priscilla


You never mentioned planting peaches!

:)

Chris

Gertrude 15-08-2011 11:35 PM

Roundup Question ??
 

Before I plant flowers, if I soak the ground with Roundup, how long would I
have to wait to plant the flowers ?


Read The ****ing LABEL
You don't spray roundup on the ground
If you can't understand the label don't spray
In 25 sqft just dig up the weeds
--
I Know That I Know What I Know


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