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Where to buy bulk epson salt?
I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are
caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. What kind of store wound I go to for a good price on 50 or 100 lb bags of epson salt? |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
Bob F wrote:
I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. I don't know about leaves curling, I thought magnesium deficiency cause leaf yellowing especially in older leaves. Can you provide a photo? What kind of store wound I go to for a good price on 50 or 100 lb bags of epson salt? A few pounds per tree seems quite excessive to me, this is a trace element not a major nutrient. If you over-do it you won't have a problem with curling leaves 'cause you wont have any leaves at all. Another problem is that epson salts is very soluble and unless it binds to humus or clay colloids it will leach out quickly. Here is another method that may be work if it is Mg deficiency. Treat some (or all) trees with a foliar spray of epson salts, possibly repeated in a week, if it is Mg deficiency they will recover quite quickly, that is within weeks. For the longer term treat with dolomite which will slow release Mg over time. Another possibility is that the soil is very acid which tends to lock up some minerals like Mg so liming or adding dolomite will raise the pH and release Mg. A dye-indicator to test pH is cheap and sufficiently accurate for gardening and can be used in many situations. David |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
"Bob F" wrote in message
... I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Your search might be easier if you looked for it using the correct name which is 'Epsom salts'. It is named after the town of Epsom in the UK. I would be extremely suspicious of taking any advice to use that amount of Epsom salts under any tree. |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:36:02 -0700, "Bob F"
wrote: I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. What kind of store wound I go to for a good price on 50 or 100 lb bags of epson salt? For bulk epsom salt you will pay between $1-$1.50/pound... my local Walmart has 1 pound containers for $1. Amazon.com sells 20 pound containers for $20 but then there's shipping. The San Fransico Salt Company sells bulk at wholesale but you need to phone them for rates. http://www.sfbsc.com/wholesale-bath-salt-manufacturing I wouldn't use epsom salt for gardening purposes, check further about plum tree + magnesium deficiency, sounds like BS to me... some web sites say yea, some nay, none give details so it's a crap shoot... you'd do better to literally add bull shit.... instead of a truckload of salts invest in a composter. |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
David Hare-Scott wrote:
Bob F wrote: I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. I don't know about leaves curling, I thought magnesium deficiency cause leaf yellowing especially in older leaves. Can you provide a photo? Photo here (I hope) http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ What kind of store wound I go to for a good price on 50 or 100 lb bags of epson salt? A few pounds per tree seems quite excessive to me, this is a trace element not a major nutrient. If you over-do it you won't have a problem with curling leaves 'cause you wont have any leaves at all. Another problem is that epson salts is very soluble and unless it binds to humus or clay colloids it will leach out quickly. Here is another method that may be work if it is Mg deficiency. Treat some (or all) trees with a foliar spray of epson salts, possibly repeated in a week, if it is Mg deficiency they will recover quite quickly, that is within weeks. For the longer term treat with dolomite which will slow release Mg over time. Another possibility is that the soil is very acid which tends to lock up some minerals like Mg so liming or adding dolomite will raise the pH and release Mg. A dye-indicator to test pH is cheap and sufficiently accurate for gardening and can be used in many situations. Acid soil is common here in Seattle I believe, and it's been a long time since I limed the lawn, so maybe that's a better idea |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Good to see you back :O) -- - Billy Both the House and Senate budget plan would have cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy. Kucinich noted that none of the government programs targeted for elimination or severe cutback in House Republican spending plans "appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of waste, fraud and abuse." http://www.politifact.com/ohio/state...is-kucinich/re p-dennis-kucinich-says-gop-budget-cuts-dont-targ/ [W]e have the situation with the deficit and the debt and spending and jobs. And itıs not that difficult to get out of it. The first thing you do is you get rid of corporate welfare. Thatıs hundreds of billions of dollars a year. The second is you tax corporations so that they donıt get away with no taxation. - Ralph Nader http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/19/ralph_naders_solution_to_debt_crisis |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
FarmI wrote:
"Bob F" wrote in message ... I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Your search might be easier if you looked for it using the correct name which is 'Epsom salts'. It is named after the town of Epsom in the UK. I would be extremely suspicious of taking any advice to use that amount of Epsom salts under any tree. Thanks for both comments. Maybe that explains all the ink cartridges I found in my search. Ooops! |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
On 10/7/11 7:12 AM, Bob F wrote:
David Hare-Scott wrote: Bob F wrote: I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. I don't know about leaves curling, I thought magnesium deficiency cause leaf yellowing especially in older leaves. Can you provide a photo? Photo here (I hope) http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ What kind of store wound I go to for a good price on 50 or 100 lb bags of epson salt? A few pounds per tree seems quite excessive to me, this is a trace element not a major nutrient. If you over-do it you won't have a problem with curling leaves 'cause you wont have any leaves at all. Another problem is that epson salts is very soluble and unless it binds to humus or clay colloids it will leach out quickly. Here is another method that may be work if it is Mg deficiency. Treat some (or all) trees with a foliar spray of epson salts, possibly repeated in a week, if it is Mg deficiency they will recover quite quickly, that is within weeks. For the longer term treat with dolomite which will slow release Mg over time. Another possibility is that the soil is very acid which tends to lock up some minerals like Mg so liming or adding dolomite will raise the pH and release Mg. A dye-indicator to test pH is cheap and sufficiently accurate for gardening and can be used in many situations. Acid soil is common here in Seattle I believe, and it's been a long time since I limed the lawn, so maybe that's a better idea Epsom salts are acidic -- magnesium sulfate. If acidic soil is your problem, this will only make it worse. In any case, insufficient magnesium in the soil requires only a small dose to correct. I put about 2 tabslespoonsful around each rose bush in my garden only once a year. For roses, magnesium promotes the sprouting of new canes. I corrected chlorosis in an Australian tea tree (Leptospermum laevigatum) with a half-handful of Epsom salts without ever repeating the dose; I merely continue to feed the tea tree with acidic fertilizer (ammonium sulfate). I buy Epsom salts at a local drug store. A small carton (about the size of a half-pint of milk) lasts several years. -- David E. Ross Climate: California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
On Oct 6, 4:36*pm, "Bob F" wrote:
...I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Don't do it! Location is Seattle. There are so many misdiagnosed problems associated w/ Mg, especially here in the PNW. These guys are there to help, use em: WSU Master Gardener Program, Seattle, http://county.wsu.edu/king/gardening.../e-clinic.aspx Here is the general info you should read before talking to them: http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~Linda%2...om%20salts.pdf More WSU info on nutrient sprays: http://www.tfrec.wsu.edu/Horticulture/nutspray.html PNW Fruit trees: http://cru.cahe.wsu.edu/cepublicatio...e/pnw0121e.pdf Gotta argee w/ David, 1/2 gal should do most garden for a season or two. a dollar two ninety eight at the RiteAid store or any drug store. What kind of store wound I go to for a good price on 50 or 100 lb bags of epson salt? The internet can get you sources for 25-50 lb bags if you still feel the need. |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
Bob F wrote:
David Hare-Scott wrote: Bob F wrote: I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. I don't know about leaves curling, I thought magnesium deficiency cause leaf yellowing especially in older leaves. Can you provide a photo? Photo here (I hope) http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ I got a login screen and I don't have an account. D |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
David Hare-Scott wrote:
Bob F wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: Bob F wrote: I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. I don't know about leaves curling, I thought magnesium deficiency cause leaf yellowing especially in older leaves. Can you provide a photo? Photo here (I hope) http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ I got a login screen and I don't have an account. It's the first time I tried it. I'll try to figure out the problem. |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
In article , "Bob F"
wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: Bob F wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: Bob F wrote: I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. I don't know about leaves curling, I thought magnesium deficiency cause leaf yellowing especially in older leaves. Can you provide a photo? Photo here (I hope) http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ I got a login screen and I don't have an account. It's the first time I tried it. I'll try to figure out the problem. Just change the privacy settings for the photo. |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
Amos Nomore wrote:
In article , "Bob F" wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: Bob F wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: Bob F wrote: I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. I don't know about leaves curling, I thought magnesium deficiency cause leaf yellowing especially in older leaves. Can you provide a photo? Photo here (I hope) http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ I got a login screen and I don't have an account. It's the first time I tried it. I'll try to figure out the problem. Just change the privacy settings for the photo. OK - settings changed. Can anyone see it now? http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
In article , "Bob F"
wrote: Amos Nomore wrote: In article , "Bob F" wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: Bob F wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: Bob F wrote: I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. I don't know about leaves curling, I thought magnesium deficiency cause leaf yellowing especially in older leaves. Can you provide a photo? Photo here (I hope) http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ I got a login screen and I don't have an account. It's the first time I tried it. I'll try to figure out the problem. Just change the privacy settings for the photo. OK - settings changed. Can anyone see it now? http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ Yes. Have you ruled-out aphids and whiteflies, etc.? |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
Bob F wrote:
Amos Nomore wrote: In article , "Bob F" wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: Bob F wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: Bob F wrote: I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. I don't know about leaves curling, I thought magnesium deficiency cause leaf yellowing especially in older leaves. Can you provide a photo? Photo here (I hope) http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ I got a login screen and I don't have an account. It's the first time I tried it. I'll try to figure out the problem. Just change the privacy settings for the photo. OK - settings changed. Can anyone see it now? http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ Yes. I doubt even more that it is magnesium deficiency but I cannot help with what it is. D |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
Amos Nomore wrote:
In article , "Bob F" wrote: Amos Nomore wrote: In article , "Bob F" wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: Bob F wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: Bob F wrote: I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. I don't know about leaves curling, I thought magnesium deficiency cause leaf yellowing especially in older leaves. Can you provide a photo? Photo here (I hope) http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ I got a login screen and I don't have an account. It's the first time I tried it. I'll try to figure out the problem. Just change the privacy settings for the photo. OK - settings changed. Can anyone see it now? http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ Yes. Have you ruled-out aphids and whiteflies, etc.? This tree usually have lots of aphids. There were none this year, which surprised me. It was the first thing I looked for. I didn't see any bugs on the leaves. |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
"Billy" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: Good to see you back :O) Thank you Billy. We're still jet lagged and we both suffered from altitude sickness, but the trip exceeded all expectations. Luckily for me, the weather here wasn't hot and we got lots of rain so my garden is weedy but alive and not so out of hand as to strangle us in our beds. My poor rooster is sick though and I am rather concerned about his survival. |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
"Bob F" wrote in message
FarmI wrote: "Bob F" wrote in message ... I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Your search might be easier if you looked for it using the correct name which is 'Epsom salts'. It is named after the town of Epsom in the UK. I would be extremely suspicious of taking any advice to use that amount of Epsom salts under any tree. Thanks for both comments. Maybe that explains all the ink cartridges I found in my search. Ooops! LOL. Spreading a couple of pounds of the black goo in Epson cartridges under a tree could prove interesting :-)) |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
"Bob F" wrote in message
(snip) OK - settings changed. Can anyone see it now? http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ Yup - can see it. It doesn't look too bad really, but I do agree with David about magnesium deficiency - it doesnt' look like the descriptions given for that. It's not a stunningly healthy look, but then I wouldn't be overly worried about it either. How long ago were the pics taken? You'd be just about to go into Autumn leaf loss soonish wouldn't you? If so, I'd not do anything to it until next Spring and then if it looks as sad as it does in the pics, I'd try the usual things - check the moisture level, give it a feed with pelleted chook poo, give it a watering with a 2 gall can to which a teaspoon of trace elements have been added, give it some seaweed/fish emulsion, mulch it. (Not altogether mind you, try one thing at a time and keep an evil eye on it's progress). HTH. |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
u... "Bob F" wrote in message (snip) OK - settings changed. Can anyone see it now? http://www.flickr.com/photos/68364065@N07/6220401824/ Yup - can see it. It doesn't look too bad really, but I do agree with David about magnesium deficiency - it doesnt' look like the descriptions given for that. It's not a stunningly healthy look, but then I wouldn't be overly worried about it either. How long ago were the pics taken? You'd be just about to go into Autumn leaf loss soonish wouldn't you? If so, I'd not do anything to it until next Spring and then if it looks as sad as it does in the pics, I'd try the usual things - check the moisture level, give it a feed with pelleted chook poo, give it a watering with a 2 gall can to which a teaspoon of trace elements have been added, give it some seaweed/fish emulsion, mulch it. (Not altogether mind you, try one thing at a time and keep an evil eye on it's progress). HTH. One further thought; have you done a search for fungal diseases of prunus trees as it could be a fungal. There is a nasty called 'silver leaf' but I've not seen it in the flesh. |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are
caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. \ Don't know, who diagnosed? Doesn't sound likely, may be mag unavailable due to pH, get a second opinion. What kind of store wound I go to for a good price on 50 or 100 lb bags of epson salt? Around here any nursery/garden supply would have 1-10 lb bags and could probably get larger sizes. But if it turns out you need larger sizes try a farm supply place for best price. -- 09=IX |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
In article ,
Garrapata wrote: I've just been told that the curled under leaves on my italian prune trees are caused by magnesiom deficiency and I should apply a few pounds of epson salts under each tree. Is the diagnosis likely to be accurate? Location is Seattle. \ Don't know, who diagnosed? Doesn't sound likely, may be mag unavailable due to pH, get a second opinion. What kind of store wound I go to for a good price on 50 or 100 lb bags of epson salt? Around here any nursery/garden supply would have 1-10 lb bags and could probably get larger sizes. But if it turns out you need larger sizes try a farm supply place for best price. I agree that a you would need less than a pound (454 g) to adjust any magnesium deficiency you may have. I've found that your local pharmacy/apothecary will have the best prices. -- - Billy Both the House and Senate budget plan would have cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy. Kucinich noted that none of the government programs targeted for elimination or severe cutback in House Republican spending plans "appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of waste, fraud and abuse." http://www.politifact.com/ohio/state...is-kucinich/re p-dennis-kucinich-says-gop-budget-cuts-dont-targ/ [W]e have the situation with the deficit and the debt and spending and jobs. And it's not that difficult to get out of it. The first thing you do is you get rid of corporate welfare. That's hundreds of billions of dollars a year. The second is you tax corporations so that they don't get away with no taxation. - Ralph Nader http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/19/ralph_naders_solution_to_debt_crisis |
Where to buy bulk epson salt?
Doesn't appear to be a Mg problem. Looks more like verticillium wilt
but that is a " looks like", not any confirmation. Again don't go dumping a bunch of Epsom salts until you can accurately diagnose the problem Hopefully its not silver leaf as mentioned. You can prune a small branch to see If a brown core is running through it... if so, you got silver leaf and a whole set of new problems. If not, you are in the clear. Don't know about false silver leaf, that is an environmental problem and could be an issue. Yet again, I recommend you talk to your local Master Gardener or go directly to WSU's diagnosis lab to get an assessment on your own: http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/plantcli...mples/ppd.html. We have seen an increase in mildews, fungi up here the last few years with the present Pacific Decadal Oscillation, So yes we are heading into winter and the leaves will fall but many of these problems do not go away and will reappear next year, so watch for early signs and accurately treat . good luck |
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