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Higgs Boson 29-01-2012 12:02 AM

Egg shells as plant food
 
Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water-
immersed egg shells.

Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.

TIA

HB

Sean Straw 29-01-2012 12:47 AM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:02:41 -0800 (PST), Higgs Boson
wrote:

Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water-
immersed egg shells.


Eggshells are chiefly calcium. Dry 'em (poss toss them into the
ovenafter you've pulled out supper and let them coast on the residual
heat), crumble them up, then sprinkle around the base of plants which
have higher calcium demands (tomatoes and cucumbers for instance).

I honestly don't go through the hassle myself - I just add them to the
composter with green matter from the ktichen (but never meat/dairy),
or feed them back to my chickens (who take up the calcium for
producing eggshells - though their lay mix has oyster shell in it for
the same purpose).


David E. Ross[_2_] 29-01-2012 03:28 AM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On 1/28/12 4:02 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water-
immersed egg shells.

Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.

TIA

HB


Egg shells tend to make soil more alkaline. Where I live, this is
definitely not a good thing since both our soils and our water already
are quite alkaline.

For calcium, I use gypsum (calcium sulfate), which tends to be neutral.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

Billy[_11_] 29-01-2012 05:40 AM

Egg shells as plant food
 
In article ,
"David E. Ross" wrote:

On 1/28/12 4:02 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water-
immersed egg shells.

Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.

TIA

HB


Egg shells tend to make soil more alkaline. Where I live, this is
definitely not a good thing since both our soils and our water already
are quite alkaline.

For calcium, I use gypsum (calcium sulfate), which tends to be neutral.


Alkaline (high pH = bacterial), with in limits, is good for a vegetable
garden, and acidity (low pH = fungi) is good for perennial plants. We
are basically talking about a pH of 5 to a pH of 8 for all types of
gardens from perennial to annual.

As far as egg shells go, they are a real slow release. So the question
is how long will you be cultivating this earth? If a long time, add
eggshells. If you are leaving this residence soon, you'd probably get
more bang for your buck from the gypsum.
--

Billy

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Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.
- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 16 April 1953

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merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

Kay Lancaster 29-01-2012 10:42 AM

Egg shells as plant food
 
Toss 'em in the compost and be done with it. Chief value is for calcium, which is something all plants need in moderation.

Brooklyn1 29-01-2012 05:28 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:28:22 -0800, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

On 1/28/12 4:02 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water-
immersed egg shells.

Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.

TIA

HB


Egg shells tend to make soil more alkaline. Where I live, this is
definitely not a good thing since both our soils and our water already
are quite alkaline.

For calcium, I use gypsum (calcium sulfate), which tends to be neutral.


Gypsum and calcium don't "tend" to be neutral, they *are* neutral.
Egg shells are neutral too. Eggshells are NOT alkaline nor do they
make soil alkaline. However one would need to add an awful lot of
eggshells to derive a benefit. It's far better to apply gardening
lime, granular lime works best and is much easier to apply evenly. If
one desires add your eggshells to your composter, but be aware that
eggshells take a very long time to break down. And unless eggshells
are scrupulously cleaned the proteins clinging to the interior will
attract vermin. Putting eggshells in the garden does more harm than
good.
http://www.struykturf.com/Soil.html


David Hare-Scott[_2_] 29-01-2012 10:41 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:28:22 -0800, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

On 1/28/12 4:02 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the
water- immersed egg shells.

Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.

TIA

HB


Egg shells tend to make soil more alkaline. Where I live, this is
definitely not a good thing since both our soils and our water
already are quite alkaline.

For calcium, I use gypsum (calcium sulfate), which tends to be
neutral.


Gypsum and calcium don't "tend" to be neutral, they *are* neutral.


Gypsum is roughly neutral yes. I don't know what you mean by 'calcium' in
this case as you surely would not have metallic calcium and the degree of
alkalinity would depend on the salt of calcium. For example calcium
hydroxide (builder's lime) is more alkaline that calcium carbonate (garden
lime).

Egg shells are neutral too. Eggshells are NOT alkaline nor do they
make soil alkaline.


No. Once the adhering protein is gone egg shells are mainly calcium
carbonate the same as garden lime, they have some protein bound into the
structure of the shell but not much. The difference is the speed that they
dissolve. Lime is usually ground quite finely and it will dissolve much
quicker (and therefore raise the pH quicker ) than eggshells which are in
big chunks.

However one would need to add an awful lot of
eggshells to derive a benefit. It's far better to apply gardening
lime, granular lime works best and is much easier to apply evenly.


True, this is the key point. Unless you have a lot of chooks and grind up
the shells finely it will take an eon to do very much if anything at all.

If
one desires add your eggshells to your composter, but be aware that
eggshells take a very long time to break down. And unless eggshells
are scrupulously cleaned the proteins clinging to the interior will
attract vermin. Putting eggshells in the garden does more harm than
good.


I doubt it. A few ants in the compost don't matter. I put eggshells in the
compost not because I want to lime my garden but to get rid of them
conveniently and because they do no harm.

D



Higgs Boson 30-01-2012 02:34 AM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Jan 29, 2:41*pm, "David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:28:22 -0800, "David E. Ross"
wrote:


On 1/28/12 4:02 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. *I don't remember more. *I kept the container on the side
steps. *NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the
water- immersed egg shells.


Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? *If yes, *then on which plants and how often.


TIA


HB


Egg shells tend to make soil more alkaline. *Where I live, this is
definitely not a good thing since both our soils and our water
already are quite alkaline.


For calcium, I use gypsum (calcium sulfate), which tends to be
neutral.


Gypsum and calcium don't "tend" to be neutral, they *are* neutral.


Gypsum is roughly neutral yes. *I don't know what you mean by 'calcium' in
this case as you surely would not have metallic calcium and the degree of
alkalinity would depend on the salt of calcium. *For example calcium
hydroxide (builder's lime) is more alkaline that calcium carbonate (garden
lime).

Egg shells are neutral too. *Eggshells are NOT alkaline nor do they
make soil alkaline.


No. *Once the adhering protein is gone egg shells are mainly calcium
carbonate the same as garden lime, they have some protein bound into the
structure of the shell but not much. *The difference is the speed that they
dissolve. *Lime is usually ground quite finely and it will dissolve much
quicker (and therefore raise the pH quicker ) than eggshells which are in
big chunks.

However one would need to add an awful lot of

eggshells to derive a benefit. *It's far better to apply gardening
lime, granular lime works best and is much easier to apply evenly.


True, this is the key point. *Unless you have a lot of chooks and grind up
the shells finely it will take an eon to do very much if anything at all.

If

one desires add your eggshells to your composter, but be aware that
eggshells take a very long time to break down. *And unless eggshells
are scrupulously cleaned the proteins clinging to the interior will
attract vermin. *Putting eggshells in the garden does more harm than
good.


I doubt it. *A few ants in the compost don't matter. *I put eggshells in the
compost not because I want to lime my garden but to get rid of them
conveniently and because they do no harm.

D


Thanks, everybody. Project hereby abandoned. Appreciate the wisdom.

HB

songbird[_2_] 30-01-2012 12:13 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
Higgs Boson wrote:

Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water-
immersed egg shells.

Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.


for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth
the added expense. a bag of agricultural
lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the
rate i use it that should keep me a good
20 years or so.


songbird

David E. Ross[_2_] 30-01-2012 06:11 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On 1/30/12 4:13 AM, songbird wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:

Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water-
immersed egg shells.

Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.


for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth
the added expense. a bag of agricultural
lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the
rate i use it that should keep me a good
20 years or so.

songbird


You live where the soil is acidic. I live where both the soil and water
are alkaline.

At least once each year, I broadcast soil sulfur around certain plants
such as camellias, roses, a liquidambar tree, an Australian tea tree,
and a gardenia. On the other hand, my bearded iris, primroses, and
cheddar pinks (dianthus) thrive with the alkalinity. Agricultural lime
is hard to find in my area.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

Brooklyn1 30-01-2012 07:40 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
"David E. Ross" wrote:
songbird wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:

Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water-
immersed egg shells.

Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.


for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth
the added expense. a bag of agricultural
lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the
rate i use it that should keep me a good
20 years or so.

songbird


Agricultural lime is hard to find in my area.


That's utter nonsense... agri lime is sold at every plant nursery in
the US, everywhere that sells lawn maintence and farming products
sells agri lime... not to mention all over the internet. Where's this
secretive area you live... in your lonely drug crazed fantasy world...
you're being ridiculous and dishonest.

Father Haskell 30-01-2012 08:00 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Jan 30, 7:13*am, songbird wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. *I don't remember more. *I kept the container on the side
steps. *NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water-
immersed egg shells.


Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? *If yes, *then on which plants and how often.


* for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth
the added expense. *a bag of agricultural
lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. *at the
rate i use it that should keep me a good
20 years or so.

* songbird


Dolomitic lime adds calcium and magnesium, plus helps
to keep pH levels stable. Eggshells have the most benefit
with vermicomposting, keeps the crew healthy.

Father Haskell 30-01-2012 08:01 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Jan 28, 10:28*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 1/28/12 4:02 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:

Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. *I don't remember more. *I kept the container on the side
steps. *NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water-
immersed egg shells.


Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? *If yes, *then on which plants and how often.


TIA


HB


Egg shells tend to make soil more alkaline. *Where I live, this is
definitely not a good thing since both our soils and our water already
are quite alkaline.

For calcium, I use gypsum (calcium sulfate), which tends to be neutral.


Drywall scraps are a cheap, if not free, source.

Higgs Boson 30-01-2012 08:44 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Jan 30, 10:11*am, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 1/30/12 4:13 AM, songbird wrote:









Higgs Boson wrote:


Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. *I don't remember more. *I kept the container on the side
steps. *NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water-
immersed egg shells.


Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? *If yes, *then on which plants and how often.


* for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth
the added expense. *a bag of agricultural
lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. *at the
rate i use it that should keep me a good
20 years or so.


* songbird


You live where the soil is acidic. *I live where both the soil and water
are alkaline.

No, it was originally alkaline; good old California adobe. However,
it has been modified over many decades by the previous owner and
myself, so it's pretty well balanced by now.

HB

At least once each year, I broadcast soil sulfur around certain plants
such as camellias, roses, a liquidambar tree, an Australian tea tree,
and a gardenia. *On the other hand, my bearded iris, primroses, and
cheddar pinks (dianthus) thrive with the alkalinity. *Agricultural lime
is hard to find in my area.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: *California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary



David Hare-Scott[_2_] 30-01-2012 11:45 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 28, 10:28 pm, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 1/28/12 4:02 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:

Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the
water- immersed egg shells.


Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.


TIA


HB


Egg shells tend to make soil more alkaline. Where I live, this is
definitely not a good thing since both our soils and our water
already are quite alkaline.

For calcium, I use gypsum (calcium sulfate), which tends to be
neutral.


Drywall scraps are a cheap, if not free, source.


Which you then have to grind up somehow or wait for ages. Gypsum isn't
expensive.

D


David Hare-Scott[_2_] 30-01-2012 11:46 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
Brooklyn1 wrote:
"David E. Ross" wrote:
songbird wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:

Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the
water- immersed egg shells.

Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy
of this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.

for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth
the added expense. a bag of agricultural
lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the
rate i use it that should keep me a good
20 years or so.

songbird


Agricultural lime is hard to find in my area.


That's utter nonsense... agri lime is sold at every plant nursery in
the US, everywhere that sells lawn maintence and farming products
sells agri lime... not to mention all over the internet. Where's this
secretive area you live... in your lonely drug crazed fantasy world...
you're being ridiculous and dishonest.


Amazing... truly amazing.

D

David Hare-Scott[_2_] 30-01-2012 11:47 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 30, 7:13 am, songbird wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the
water- immersed egg shells.


Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.


for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth
the added expense. a bag of agricultural
lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the
rate i use it that should keep me a good
20 years or so.

songbird


Dolomitic lime adds calcium and magnesium, plus helps
to keep pH levels stable. Eggshells have the most benefit
with vermicomposting, keeps the crew healthy.


Provided your soil needs magnesium as well.

D

Brooklyn1 31-01-2012 12:40 AM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:01:15 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
wrote:

On Jan 28, 10:28*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 1/28/12 4:02 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:

Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. *I don't remember more. *I kept the container on the side
steps. *NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water-
immersed egg shells.


Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? *If yes, *then on which plants and how often.


TIA


HB


Egg shells tend to make soil more alkaline. *Where I live, this is
definitely not a good thing since both our soils and our water already
are quite alkaline.

For calcium, I use gypsum (calcium sulfate), which tends to be neutral.


Drywall scraps are a cheap, if not free, source.


Drywall does not readily dissolve into the soil and it also contains
several elements that may not be desirable, especially for food crops.
I wouldn't consider any building materials safe for amending soil. The
last people who lived here dumped a good sized pile of drywall in the
woods and it's still there in the same condition it was when I noticed
it more than ten years ago. I strongly suggest disposing of all
building materials properly and buy agri lime, it's cheap... I've
never seen wallboard marked Safe for Food Crops. Actually I think
people who cheap-out by using inapropriate materials for gardening are
definitely mentally ill... this Haskill creep is very sick. Ross and
Boson aren't too well wrapped either... I'd be very wary of these
kind. It's been my experience that tightwadedness is highly
indicative of severe psychosis... these are the kind of males who beat
their wives for buying new panties without their permission.

Father Haskell 31-01-2012 02:10 AM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Jan 30, 7:40*pm, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:01:15 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell









wrote:
On Jan 28, 10:28*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 1/28/12 4:02 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:


Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. *I don't remember more. *I kept the container on the side
steps. *NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the water-
immersed egg shells.


Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? *If yes, *then on which plants and how often.


TIA


HB


Egg shells tend to make soil more alkaline. *Where I live, this is
definitely not a good thing since both our soils and our water already
are quite alkaline.


For calcium, I use gypsum (calcium sulfate), which tends to be neutral..


Drywall scraps are a cheap, if not free, source.


Drywall does not readily dissolve into the soil and it also contains
several elements that may not be desirable, especially for food crops.


Fresh, regular white and gray sheetrock is gypsum, silicon,
cellulose, stuff that's already present in soil. Scrap from
demolition
contains a witch's brew of who the hell knows what, which should
be avoided, of course.

I wouldn't consider any building materials safe for amending soil. The
last people who lived here dumped a good sized pile of drywall in the
woods and it's still there in the same condition it was when I noticed
it more than ten years ago.


Needs to be busted up. One good soaking rain will handle the rest.

I strongly suggest disposing of all
building materials properly and buy agri lime, it's cheap... I've
never seen wallboard marked Safe for Food Crops.


Guess what clay buster is made from.

Actually I think
people who cheap-out by using inapropriate materials for gardening are
definitely mentally ill... this Haskill creep is very sick.


I prefer "cheap."


Father Haskell 31-01-2012 02:14 AM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Jan 30, 6:47*pm, "David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 30, 7:13 am, songbird wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the
water- immersed egg shells.


Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.


for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth
the added expense. a bag of agricultural
lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the
rate i use it that should keep me a good
20 years or so.


songbird


Dolomitic lime adds calcium and magnesium, plus helps
to keep pH levels stable. *Eggshells have the most benefit
with vermicomposting, keeps the crew healthy.


Provided your soil needs magnesium as well.


If foliage is yellow, and not due to iron or nitrogen deficiency,
suspect Mg shortage. Hard to overdose with dolomite.

A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting
tomatoes or peppers. These appreciate an extra dose of
magnesium.

David E. Ross[_2_] 31-01-2012 06:32 AM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On 1/30/12 6:14 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:47 pm, "David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 30, 7:13 am, songbird wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the
water- immersed egg shells.


Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.


for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth
the added expense. a bag of agricultural
lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the
rate i use it that should keep me a good
20 years or so.


songbird


Dolomitic lime adds calcium and magnesium, plus helps
to keep pH levels stable. Eggshells have the most benefit
with vermicomposting, keeps the crew healthy.


Provided your soil needs magnesium as well.


If foliage is yellow, and not due to iron or nitrogen deficiency,
suspect Mg shortage. Hard to overdose with dolomite.

A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting
tomatoes or peppers. These appreciate an extra dose of
magnesium.


Yellowing can by a symptom of zinc deficiency, especially with citrus
and gardenias. Yellowing can also be a symptom of soil that is too
alkaline or of over-watering. Finally, yellowing can be a sign that a
nearby underground natural gas line is leaking.

Magnesium promots the growth of new shoots. That is why I give each of
my roses about 2 tablespoonsful of Epsom salts in the late winter.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

Gunner[_3_] 02-02-2012 05:10 AM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Jan 30, 6:14*pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:47*pm, "David Hare-Scott" wrote:









Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 30, 7:13 am, songbird wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the
water- immersed egg shells.


Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.


for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth
the added expense. a bag of agricultural
lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the
rate i use it that should keep me a good
20 years or so.


songbird


Dolomitic lime adds calcium and magnesium, plus helps
to keep pH levels stable. *Eggshells have the most benefit
with vermicomposting, keeps the crew healthy.


Provided your soil needs magnesium as well.


If foliage is yellow, and not due to iron or nitrogen deficiency,
suspect Mg shortage. *Hard to overdose with dolomite.

A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting
tomatoes or peppers. *These appreciate an extra dose of
magnesium.


And airplane and cars have wheels, but can a car fly?

Very specifically it depends doesn't it? Your using a false analogy

Gunner[_3_] 03-02-2012 04:37 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Jan 30, 6:14*pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:47*pm, "David Hare-Scott" wrote:









Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 30, 7:13 am, songbird wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the
water- immersed egg shells.


Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.


for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth
the added expense. a bag of agricultural
lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the
rate i use it that should keep me a good
20 years or so.


songbird


Dolomitic lime adds calcium and magnesium, plus helps
to keep pH levels stable. *Eggshells have the most benefit
with vermicomposting, keeps the crew healthy.


Provided your soil needs magnesium as well.


If foliage is yellow, and not due to iron or nitrogen deficiency,
suspect Mg shortage. *Hard to overdose with dolomite.

A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting
tomatoes or peppers. *These appreciate an extra dose of
magnesium.


http://www.aces.edu/timelyinfo/Ag%20...er/s-05-05.pdf

"Coarsely crushed eggshells are relatively ineffective as a soil
liming material or as a source of calcium. Although the sample used in
this study had a total neutralizing value of 59% of pure calcium
carbonate, it had to be very finely ground in order to be effective at
increasing soil pH. Broken egg- shells can be safely land applied.
Nitrogen from protein residues in eggshells and possibly other
nutrients will eventually add to the fertility of the soil. Except for
nitrogen, this will probably be a*very slow process. Therefore, unless
shells are mechanically ground at least as finely as ground
agricultural limestone, they should not be used as a substitute for
conventional soil liming materials. However, we do not suspect any
negative effect from their application to the soil."

Also: http://www.aces.edu/timelyinfo/Ag%20...er/s-05-05.pdf

AndyS[_3_] 04-02-2012 12:22 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Jan 30, 6:40 pm, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
these are the kind of males who beat
their wives for buying new panties without their permission.


Andy asks,

They let their wives wear panties.???.... There's yer problem,
right there.... !!!

:)))) Andy in Eureka, Texas

Father Haskell 05-02-2012 06:33 AM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Feb 2, 12:10*am, Gunner wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:14*pm, Father Haskell wrote:









On Jan 30, 6:47*pm, "David Hare-Scott" wrote:


Father Haskell wrote:
On Jan 30, 7:13 am, songbird wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Amigas & amigos, years ago I read that eggshell water is good for
plants. I don't remember more. I kept the container on the side
steps. NEVER smelled anything like the odor emanating from the
water- immersed egg shells.


Now I started saving them again, but before I concoct yet another
witches brew, could I sample the NG as to the usefulness/efficacy of
this project? If yes, then on which plants and how often.


for me recycling eggshells wasn't worth
the added expense. a bag of agricultural
lime ran about $6.50 for 50lbs. at the
rate i use it that should keep me a good
20 years or so.


songbird


Dolomitic lime adds calcium and magnesium, plus helps
to keep pH levels stable. *Eggshells have the most benefit
with vermicomposting, keeps the crew healthy.


Provided your soil needs magnesium as well.


If foliage is yellow, and not due to iron or nitrogen deficiency,
suspect Mg shortage. *Hard to overdose with dolomite.


A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting
tomatoes or peppers. *These appreciate an extra dose of
magnesium.


And airplane and cars have wheels, but can a car fly?


Put a big enough engine on it, no problem.

Very specifically it depends doesn't it? *Your using a false analogy



Gunner[_3_] 05-02-2012 10:34 PM

Egg shells as plant food
 
On Feb 4, 10:33*pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:10*am, Gunner wrote:





Father Haskell wrote:


*Hard to overdose with dolomite.


Very incorrect statement.

A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting
tomatoes or peppers. *These appreciate an extra dose of
magnesium.


No,Not in my soil or many of the myriad clay compositions.

You obviously do not understand soil science and as I said you are
using false analogies. Again I said airplane and cars have wheels,
but can a car fly?

You coyly reply "Put a big enough engine on it, no problem."

But old son, you would be hard pressed to find the horsepower
necessary to make your overreaching BS fly:

Hard to overdose with dolomite.

Patently false and I think you know that, or at least you should know
as much, when dispensing "gardening advice."

A spoonful of epsom salts is recommended when planting
tomatoes....


Again, so patently false. *While it may not affect some and even
benefit some others, it is no panacea. *And yes you can overdo
dolomite. In fact,this mythology*can be quite *detrimental to many.
*So to say "... A spoonful of Epsom ...is recommend when
planting ...." Is 100% USDA Prime *BS.

Even a quick search yields this refutation:
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/cabarrus/sta...efaq.html#L16:

You normally use dolomitic lime on sandy soils. Sandy soils don't have
any way to hold magnesium or calcium. Both are needed for plant growth
and should be added regularly. The only way to tell which lime you
need to use on clay soils is with a soil test. Clay soils with high
magnesium levels perform poorly. They will develop more cracks and
have a tighter structure. These soils don't need additional magnesium.
Look for the magnesium base saturation (Mg BS) percentage on a soil
test. The ideal Mg BS is 10%. Clay soils with Mg BS over 20% should
get calcitic lime. ...

Also see:
http://www.kinseyag.com/Article2.htm
http://www.smilinggardener.com/organ.../dolomite-lime
http://back-to-basics.net/efu/pdfs/pH.pdf
http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/FreePubs/pdfs/uc038.pdf


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