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Cheryl Isaak 30-04-2012 12:46 PM

how long before I decide the hydrangea are dead
 
I added two hydrangea to the gardens last year - both were rescues from
the discount shelves so I don't have lots of money into them.

But both looked to be thriving in the fall of 2011. But I had an major
snow storm at the end of October with out a hard frost first, an open
(nearly snowless) winter and early spring snow after many things had bud
break.

Both look dead - no leaf buds, but still have some flex to some of the
branches.

They are in two entirely different sections of the yard - both well
drained soil and enriched holes at the time of planting. One gets late
afternoon sun (and that should be true all year). The other is getting
full sun now, but will get afternoon shade as the trees leaf out.



So, here is is nearly May, the only other thing with out leaves is the
sweet spire (clethera ) which won't break buds for a few weeks yet.


Advice please -

Cheryl
southern New Hampshire. Usually a very cold yard Zone 5A with lots of wind

Jeff Layman[_2_] 30-04-2012 01:06 PM

how long before I decide the hydrangea are dead
 
On 30/04/2012 12:46, Cheryl Isaak wrote:
I added two hydrangea to the gardens last year - both were rescues from
the discount shelves so I don't have lots of money into them.

But both looked to be thriving in the fall of 2011. But I had an major
snow storm at the end of October with out a hard frost first, an open
(nearly snowless) winter and early spring snow after many things had bud
break.

Both look dead - no leaf buds, but still have some flex to some of the
branches.

They are in two entirely different sections of the yard - both well
drained soil and enriched holes at the time of planting. One gets late
afternoon sun (and that should be true all year). The other is getting
full sun now, but will get afternoon shade as the trees leaf out.



So, here is is nearly May, the only other thing with out leaves is the
sweet spire (clethera ) which won't break buds for a few weeks yet.


Advice please -


Scrape a small piece of bark back to see what's underneath. If it's
green, it's alive; if brown through to white it's not. It's up to you
how far down the branches you go to see what is alive and what isn't.

--

Jeff

Cheryl Isaak 30-04-2012 10:43 PM

how long before I decide the hydrangea are dead
 
On 4/30/12 8:06 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 30/04/2012 12:46, Cheryl Isaak wrote:
I added two hydrangea to the gardens last year - both were rescues from
the discount shelves so I don't have lots of money into them.

But both looked to be thriving in the fall of 2011. But I had an major
snow storm at the end of October with out a hard frost first, an open
(nearly snowless) winter and early spring snow after many things had bud
break.

Both look dead - no leaf buds, but still have some flex to some of the
branches.

They are in two entirely different sections of the yard - both well
drained soil and enriched holes at the time of planting. One gets late
afternoon sun (and that should be true all year). The other is getting
full sun now, but will get afternoon shade as the trees leaf out.



So, here is is nearly May, the only other thing with out leaves is the
sweet spire (clethera ) which won't break buds for a few weeks yet.


Advice please -


Scrape a small piece of bark back to see what's underneath. If it's
green, it's alive; if brown through to white it's not. It's up to you
how far down the branches you go to see what is alive and what isn't.




there is still some green ... I'll just be patient for a while yet then

Cheryl

Farm1[_3_] 01-05-2012 07:02 AM

how long before I decide the hydrangea are dead
 
"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
I added two hydrangea to the gardens last year - both were rescues from the
discount shelves so I don't have lots of money into them.

But both looked to be thriving in the fall of 2011. But I had an major
snow storm at the end of October with out a hard frost first, an open
(nearly snowless) winter and early spring snow after many things had bud
break.

Both look dead - no leaf buds, but still have some flex to some of the
branches.

They are in two entirely different sections of the yard - both well
drained soil and enriched holes at the time of planting. One gets late
afternoon sun (and that should be true all year). The other is getting
full sun now, but will get afternoon shade as the trees leaf out.



So, here is is nearly May, the only other thing with out leaves is the
sweet spire (clethera ) which won't break buds for a few weeks yet.


I don't live where there is regular snow, but we do get hard frosts. the
rule of thumb for suspected 'dead' from frost plants is to leave the plnat
alone for 2 years. Mind you, I live in the country and plants rate higher
on the care factor agenda than any visitor's possible aesthetic sensitivity
about seeing a possibly 'dead' plant in their line of sight.



Cheryl Isaak 01-05-2012 11:38 AM

how long before I decide the hydrangea are dead
 
On 5/1/12 2:02 AM, Farm1 wrote:
"Cheryl wrote in message
...
I added two hydrangea to the gardens last year - both were rescues from the
discount shelves so I don't have lots of money into them.

But both looked to be thriving in the fall of 2011. But I had an major
snow storm at the end of October with out a hard frost first, an open
(nearly snowless) winter and early spring snow after many things had bud
break.

Both look dead - no leaf buds, but still have some flex to some of the
branches.

They are in two entirely different sections of the yard - both well
drained soil and enriched holes at the time of planting. One gets late
afternoon sun (and that should be true all year). The other is getting
full sun now, but will get afternoon shade as the trees leaf out.



So, here is is nearly May, the only other thing with out leaves is the
sweet spire (clethera ) which won't break buds for a few weeks yet.


I don't live where there is regular snow, but we do get hard frosts. the
rule of thumb for suspected 'dead' from frost plants is to leave the plnat
alone for 2 years. Mind you, I live in the country and plants rate higher
on the care factor agenda than any visitor's possible aesthetic sensitivity
about seeing a possibly 'dead' plant in their line of sight.


LOL - one could be hid from view, the other I put front and center

I can be patient, this is my garden not a public display


Farm1[_3_] 01-05-2012 12:18 PM

how long before I decide the hydrangea are dead
 
"Cheryl Isaak" wrote in message
...
On 5/1/12 2:02 AM, Farm1 wrote:
"Cheryl wrote in message
...
I added two hydrangea to the gardens last year - both were rescues from
the
discount shelves so I don't have lots of money into them.

But both looked to be thriving in the fall of 2011. But I had an major
snow storm at the end of October with out a hard frost first, an open
(nearly snowless) winter and early spring snow after many things had bud
break.

Both look dead - no leaf buds, but still have some flex to some of the
branches.

They are in two entirely different sections of the yard - both well
drained soil and enriched holes at the time of planting. One gets late
afternoon sun (and that should be true all year). The other is getting
full sun now, but will get afternoon shade as the trees leaf out.



So, here is is nearly May, the only other thing with out leaves is the
sweet spire (clethera ) which won't break buds for a few weeks yet.


I don't live where there is regular snow, but we do get hard frosts. the
rule of thumb for suspected 'dead' from frost plants is to leave the
plnat
alone for 2 years. Mind you, I live in the country and plants rate
higher
on the care factor agenda than any visitor's possible aesthetic
sensitivity
about seeing a possibly 'dead' plant in their line of sight.


LOL - one could be hid from view, the other I put front and center

I can be patient, this is my garden not a public display


I learned the '2 year rule' from a non gardener. She was a sloth and just
didn't get round to removing the 'dead' plant which all of us more keen and
supposedly knowledgable gardeners told her should be removed. After 2 years
the blasting shrub started resprouting and proved all of us to be liars.
Our friend really enjoyed watching as we ate humble pie :-))



Frank 01-05-2012 01:20 PM

how long before I decide the hydrangea are dead
 
On 4/30/2012 7:46 AM, Cheryl Isaak wrote:
I added two hydrangea to the gardens last year - both were rescues from
the discount shelves so I don't have lots of money into them.

But both looked to be thriving in the fall of 2011. But I had an major
snow storm at the end of October with out a hard frost first, an open
(nearly snowless) winter and early spring snow after many things had bud
break.

Both look dead - no leaf buds, but still have some flex to some of the
branches.

They are in two entirely different sections of the yard - both well
drained soil and enriched holes at the time of planting. One gets late
afternoon sun (and that should be true all year). The other is getting
full sun now, but will get afternoon shade as the trees leaf out.



So, here is is nearly May, the only other thing with out leaves is the
sweet spire (clethera ) which won't break buds for a few weeks yet.


Advice please -

Cheryl
southern New Hampshire. Usually a very cold yard Zone 5A with lots of wind


Now that you know your hydrangeas are alive you might be interested in
propagating them once they get going:

http://www.hydrangeashydrangeas.com/propagation.html

It is extremely easy to do and has supplied me and sons with new hydrangeas.

Only problem I have with them is deer eating them and I have to protect
young plants.

allen73 04-05-2012 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheryl Isaak (Post 957469)
I added two hydrangea to the gardens last year - both were rescues from
the discount shelves so I don't have lots of money into them.

But both looked to be thriving in the fall of 2011. But I had an major
snow storm at the end of October with out a hard frost first, an open
(nearly snowless) winter and early spring snow after many things had bud
break.

Both look dead - no leaf buds, but still have some flex to some of the
branches.

They are in two entirely different sections of the yard - both well
drained soil and enriched holes at the time of planting. One gets late
afternoon sun (and that should be true all year). The other is getting
full sun now, but will get afternoon shade as the trees leaf out.



So, here is is nearly May, the only other thing with out leaves is the
sweet spire (clethera ) which won't break buds for a few weeks yet.


Advice please -

Cheryl
southern New Hampshire. Usually a very cold yard Zone 5A with lots of wind

I don't live where there is regular snow, but we do get hard frosts. the
rule of thumb for suspected 'dead' from frost plants is to leave the plnat
alone for 2 years. Mind you, I live in the country and plants rate higher
on the care factor agenda than any visitor's possible aesthetic sensitivity
about seeing a possibly 'dead' plant in their line of sight.


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