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Danny D.[_5_] 25-06-2013 02:36 AM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (andmissing o-rings)
 
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:44:55 -0700, Oren wrote:

Source:


Regarding sourcing the 4" brass nozzles and brass valves ...

Q: Does anyone know of a better 4-inch brass hose nozzle or a better price?
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13402918.jpg

Here's my quick nozzle summary, for others to benefit from, of the
three types I bought from local box stores and tested this week:

ACE Hardwa $6.49
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...LAID=145559371
BEST: Always shuts off, easily taken apart for cleaning, has 2 o-rings,
knurled knobs are easy to spin off, even when wet.

Home Depot: $7.67
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Orbit-5-i...7928/100659304
GOOD: Always shuts off, I can't seem to get it apart, has rubber knobs which
are slippery when wet and which get damaged easily when using wrenches
to undo tight connections.

Harbor Freight: $3 (regularly $5):
http://www.harborfreight.com/4-inch-...zle-31811.html
CRAPPY: Often leaks when shut off, only one o-ring, easily comes apart,
knurling on the knobs is not cross hatched so it's hard to unscrew
from the garden hose when wet, the gasket fits way too loosely so it
can be easily lost, spray is not a clean stream at the strongest
settings - but otherwise OK.

Of these three, I recommend the ACE Hardware 4 inch brass nozzle.
If you know of a better nozzle, or, of a better price, let me know.


F Murtz 25-06-2013 08:09 AM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missingo-rings)
 
Danny D. wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:44:55 -0700, Oren wrote:

Source:


Regarding sourcing the 4" brass nozzles and brass valves ...

Q: Does anyone know of a better 4-inch brass hose nozzle or a better price?
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13402918.jpg

Here's my quick nozzle summary, for others to benefit from, of the
three types I bought from local box stores and tested this week:

ACE Hardwa $6.49
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...LAID=145559371
BEST: Always shuts off, easily taken apart for cleaning, has 2 o-rings,
knurled knobs are easy to spin off, even when wet.

Home Depot: $7.67
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Orbit-5-i...7928/100659304
GOOD: Always shuts off, I can't seem to get it apart, has rubber knobs which
are slippery when wet and which get damaged easily when using wrenches
to undo tight connections.

Harbor Freight: $3 (regularly $5):
http://www.harborfreight.com/4-inch-...zle-31811.html
CRAPPY: Often leaks when shut off, only one o-ring, easily comes apart,
knurling on the knobs is not cross hatched so it's hard to unscrew
from the garden hose when wet, the gasket fits way too loosely so it
can be easily lost, spray is not a clean stream at the strongest
settings - but otherwise OK.

Of these three, I recommend the ACE Hardware 4 inch brass nozzle.
If you know of a better nozzle, or, of a better price, let me know.



Most people use trigger nozzles now.(water restrictions)

[email protected] 25-06-2013 09:51 PM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missing o-rings)
 

.... made in U.S.A.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/Garden/p...280,33160&ap=3

you're welcome :-)
John T.




On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 01:36:40 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:44:55 -0700, Oren wrote:

Source:


Regarding sourcing the 4" brass nozzles and brass valves ...

Q: Does anyone know of a better 4-inch brass hose nozzle or a better price?
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13402918.jpg

Here's my quick nozzle summary, for others to benefit from, of the
three types I bought from local box stores and tested this week:

ACE Hardwa $6.49
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...LAID=145559371
BEST: Always shuts off, easily taken apart for cleaning, has 2 o-rings,
knurled knobs are easy to spin off, even when wet.

Home Depot: $7.67
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Orbit-5-i...7928/100659304
GOOD: Always shuts off, I can't seem to get it apart, has rubber knobs which
are slippery when wet and which get damaged easily when using wrenches
to undo tight connections.

Harbor Freight: $3 (regularly $5):
http://www.harborfreight.com/4-inch-...zle-31811.html
CRAPPY: Often leaks when shut off, only one o-ring, easily comes apart,
knurling on the knobs is not cross hatched so it's hard to unscrew
from the garden hose when wet, the gasket fits way too loosely so it
can be easily lost, spray is not a clean stream at the strongest
settings - but otherwise OK.

Of these three, I recommend the ACE Hardware 4 inch brass nozzle.
If you know of a better nozzle, or, of a better price, let me know.



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Danny D.[_5_] 25-06-2013 10:36 PM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (andmissing o-rings)
 
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:09:12 +1000, F Murtz wrote:

Most people use trigger nozzles now.(water restrictions)


The wife used those trigger-style nozzles and hated them.
Her main problem, she said, was they are difficult to set at
a certain stream, and then just leave it there (she often
walks away from the hose as it slowly waters plants).

So, we threw away all our trigger ones (even those very
expensive sets from Costco which had quick connects - which
turned out, for us, to be a waste of money).


brooklyn1 26-06-2013 12:57 AM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missing o-rings)
 
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:36:50 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:09:12 +1000, F Murtz wrote:

Most people use trigger nozzles now.(water restrictions)


The wife used those trigger-style nozzles and hated them.
Her main problem, she said, was they are difficult to set at
a certain stream, and then just leave it there (she often
walks away from the hose as it slowly waters plants).

So, we threw away all our trigger ones (even those very
expensive sets from Costco which had quick connects - which
turned out, for us, to be a waste of money).


This is the best garden hose nozzle ever made:
http://www.sears.com/ray-padula-meta...7&blockType=G7
http://www.kmart.com/ray-padula-meta...W028221300001P


gregz 26-06-2013 01:43 AM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missing o-rings)
 
Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:36:50 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:09:12 +1000, F Murtz wrote:

Most people use trigger nozzles now.(water restrictions)


The wife used those trigger-style nozzles and hated them.
Her main problem, she said, was they are difficult to set at
a certain stream, and then just leave it there (she often
walks away from the hose as it slowly waters plants).

So, we threw away all our trigger ones (even those very
expensive sets from Costco which had quick connects - which
turned out, for us, to be a waste of money).


This is the best garden hose nozzle ever made:
http://www.sears.com/ray-padula-meta...7&blockType=G7
http://www.kmart.com/ray-padula-meta...W028221300001P


I have that or one like it. Trouble is, it wants to go full on. I still
prefer brass nozzle.
I like where I can open it up and it forms big drips, very low stream power
for watering plants.

Greg

Oren[_2_] 26-06-2013 03:28 AM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missing o-rings)
 
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:57:34 -0400, Brooklyn1
wrote:

This is the best garden hose nozzle ever made:
http://www.sears.com/ray-padula-meta...7&blockType=G7
http://www.kmart.com/ray-padula-meta...W028221300001P


Are you 100% absolutely certain?!

We need more information.

Danny D.[_5_] 26-06-2013 05:44 AM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (andmissing o-rings)
 
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:57:34 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

This is the best garden hose nozzle ever made:


Are you allowed to carry them concealed in California?


Danny D.[_5_] 26-06-2013 05:52 AM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (andmissing o-rings)
 
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:28:31 -0700, Oren wrote:

Are you 100% absolutely certain?!
We need more information


By the way, I went to ACE today and picked up "their" rendition of
the almost 100% brass garden hose shutoff valve:

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13411231.jpg

Like the Home Depot garden hose valve, it had a black
material where you'd rather have brass; but, for the
extra dollar, it had a "two finger" shutoff valve, instead
of the one-finger shut off valve of the Home Depot variety.

Presumably you can apply more force to this shutoff valve
when it starts to get sticky ...


Danny D.[_5_] 26-06-2013 05:59 AM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (andmissing o-rings)
 
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:57:34 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

This is the best garden hose nozzle ever made:


BTW, I just compared the two all-brass assault nozzles, side by side:
http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13411256.jpg

Clearly the double-action o-ring American-made ACE assault nozzle,
at more than twice the price of the cheap Harbor Freight single-o-ring
model, provided better aiming, and a more steady stream of fire than
did the Chinese knockoff.

Just saying ...


The Daring Dufas[_3_] 26-06-2013 03:09 PM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missingo-rings)
 
On 6/25/2013 11:59 PM, Danny D. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:57:34 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

This is the best garden hose nozzle ever made:


BTW, I just compared the two all-brass assault nozzles, side by side:
http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13411256.jpg

Clearly the double-action o-ring American-made ACE assault nozzle,
at more than twice the price of the cheap Harbor Freight single-o-ring
model, provided better aiming, and a more steady stream of fire than
did the Chinese knockoff.

Just saying ...


Yea, but you can arm more people cheaply. If you have 1,000 folks armed
with the high quality assault nozzles going up against 100,000,000
people armed with cheap low quality assault nozzles, it's no contest.
The Germans learned this hard lesson in tank battles during WWII. ^_^

TDD

Oren[_2_] 26-06-2013 04:21 PM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missing o-rings)
 
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 04:52:22 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

By the way, I went to ACE today and picked up "their" rendition of
the almost 100% brass garden hose shutoff valve:

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13411231.jpg

Like the Home Depot garden hose valve, it had a black
material where you'd rather have brass; but, for the
extra dollar, it had a "two finger" shutoff valve, instead
of the one-finger shut off valve of the Home Depot variety.

Presumably you can apply more force to this shutoff valve
when it starts to get sticky ...


You can get replacement handles that are longer. If you pull the new
handle off and look at the end of the stem so you can match it.

Stormin Mormon[_4_] 27-06-2013 12:15 AM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missing o-rings)
 
Is anything effective legal in CA? I doubt it.
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..
..
"Danny D." wrote in message ...
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:57:34 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

This is the best garden hose nozzle ever made:


Are you allowed to carry them concealed in California?



[email protected] 27-06-2013 12:33 AM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missing o-rings)
 
snips

BTW, I just compared the two all-brass assault nozzles, side by side:
http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13411256.jpg

Clearly the double-action o-ring American-made ACE assault nozzle,
at more than twice the price of the cheap Harbor Freight single-o-ring
model, provided better aiming, and a more steady stream of fire than
did the Chinese knockoff.

Just saying ...


Yea, but you can arm more people cheaply. If you have 1,000 folks armed
with the high quality assault nozzles going up against 100,000,000
people armed with cheap low quality assault nozzles, it's no contest.
The Germans learned this hard lesson in tank battles during WWII. ^_^
TDD



I don't think that WW 2 is a factor in this thread .. ?
.... only the most modern German tanks actually
spray water at people.
:-)
John T.


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Stormin Mormon[_4_] 27-06-2013 12:36 AM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missing o-rings)
 
Thanks for the field test. I guess the chinky junky does make a (not good) difference.
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..
..
"Danny D." wrote in message ...
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:57:34 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

This is the best garden hose nozzle ever made:


BTW, I just compared the two all-brass assault nozzles, side by side:
http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13411256.jpg

Clearly the double-action o-ring American-made ACE assault nozzle,
at more than twice the price of the cheap Harbor Freight single-o-ring
model, provided better aiming, and a more steady stream of fire than
did the Chinese knockoff.

Just saying ...


Stormin Mormon[_4_] 27-06-2013 12:39 AM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missing o-rings)
 
But, can the cheap Chinese nozzles put water
on target? Doesn't do any good if their streams
are breaking up at 20 yards, and the Ace
nozzles can spray to 30 yards.
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..
..
"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ...

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13411256.jpg

Clearly the double-action o-ring American-made ACE assault nozzle,


Yea, but you can arm more people cheaply. If you have 1,000 folks armed
with the high quality assault nozzles going up against 100,000,000
people armed with cheap low quality assault nozzles, it's no contest.
The Germans learned this hard lesson in tank battles during WWII. ^_^

TDD


Danny D.[_5_] 27-06-2013 07:00 PM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (andmissing o-rings)
 
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 19:36:52 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Thanks for the field test. I guess the chinky junky does make a (not good) difference.


I was surprised that the Harbor Freight Chinese nozzle, which effectively
*looked* essentially the same as the American model, actually performed far
worse at higher speeds - and about the same at the lower, less demanding, speeds.

a. They leaked when shut off (2 out of 7, versus 0 out of 3 for the American)
b. They had a less satisfying spray at full force (the American just felt good)
c. They only used a single o-ring (the American nozzle used two o-rings)
d. The knurling was only parallel (the American knurling was diamond shaped)
e. They had noticeably less heft (the American nozzle just felt good)

However, at low speeds (i.e., wide spray), which is what my wife uses them
mostly for, the nozzles were about the same.

All in all - I don't recommend the Harbor Freight nozzles.

BTW, how often do you guys generally replace your nozzle o-rings anyway?


Stormin Mormon[_4_] 27-06-2013 09:56 PM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missing o-rings)
 
I'll admit, I can't remember ever replacing an
O'Ring on my garden hose nozzle. I did mention
in passing that a dose of silicone plumbers
grease on the O'Ring and the threads may
help the nozzles last longer. Havn't done that
either. I'm not a power user like yourself.
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..
..
"Danny D." wrote in message ...


I was surprised that the Harbor Freight Chinese nozzle, which effectively
*looked* essentially the same as the American model, actually performed far
worse at higher speeds - and about the same at the lower, less demanding, speeds.

a. They leaked when shut off (2 out of 7, versus 0 out of 3 for the American)
b. They had a less satisfying spray at full force (the American just felt good)
c. They only used a single o-ring (the American nozzle used two o-rings)
d. The knurling was only parallel (the American knurling was diamond shaped)
e. They had noticeably less heft (the American nozzle just felt good)

However, at low speeds (i.e., wide spray), which is what my wife uses them
mostly for, the nozzles were about the same.

All in all - I don't recommend the Harbor Freight nozzles.

BTW, how often do you guys generally replace your nozzle o-rings anyway?



Wildbilly[_3_] 27-06-2013 11:00 PM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missing o-rings)
 
In article ,
"Stormin Mormon" wrote:

Thanks for the field test. I guess the chinky junky does make a (not good)
difference.

I guess that makes you the cracker Christian(?) then.

.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org

--
Remember Rachel Corrie
http://www.rachelcorrie.org/

Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg

Oren[_2_] 27-06-2013 11:12 PM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missing o-rings)
 
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:00:23 -0700, Wildbilly
wrote:

I guess that makes you the cracker Christian(?) then.


Tell me what you think a "cracker" is!

You use a word and I bet you have no clue what it is.

standing by for your reply

Take as many pages as you need.

Stormin Mormon[_4_] 28-06-2013 03:44 AM

Brass garden hose nozzles and brass on/off switches (and missing o-rings)
 
Well, that's good for a smile. Yes. I guess, if I'm
watering the plants gently, I'm a misty Christy?

And, if I'm a distance from home, I'm the far
flung Young?
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..
..
"Wildbilly" wrote in message ...

Thanks for the field test. I guess the chinky junky does make a (not good)
difference.


I guess that makes you the cracker Christian(?) then.




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