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What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigationsetup?
This drip irrigation setup for a tomato garden is all chewed up:
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403753.jpg So I figured I'd replace it with something better. But what? One end is merely bent over and nailed to these boards: http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403755.jpg And, the other end has this cryptic glued? connection: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403754.jpg I've never worked on drip irrigation before, so I picked up all sorts of 3/4" connections at the box stores: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403764.jpg At Home Depot, the guy told me that it's normal for the drip lines to simply push in, but this end seems to be really really stuck. Another elbow nearby has a NPT-to-Hose fitting on the end: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403769.jpg Would you suggest I simply cut the elbow off and start fresh by putting a garden-hose connection on a T fitting? Note: The plants are tomatoes, which are just now sprouting, so it has to be a gentle irrigation. I think a soaker hose may be too heavy - but I'm not sure what my options are. |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigation setup?
Danny D. wrote:
This drip irrigation setup for a tomato garden is all chewed up: http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403753.jpg So I figured I'd replace it with something better. But what? One end is merely bent over and nailed to these boards: http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403755.jpg And, the other end has this cryptic glued? connection: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403754.jpg I've never worked on drip irrigation before, so I picked up all sorts of 3/4" connections at the box stores: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403764.jpg At Home Depot, the guy told me that it's normal for the drip lines to simply push in, but this end seems to be really really stuck. Another elbow nearby has a NPT-to-Hose fitting on the end: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403769.jpg Would you suggest I simply cut the elbow off and start fresh by putting a garden-hose connection on a T fitting? Note: The plants are tomatoes, which are just now sprouting, so it has to be a gentle irrigation. I think a soaker hose may be too heavy - but I'm not sure what my options are. I am assuming that you only have a modest garden and you are on domestic water mains. The normal way of doing polypipe small scale irrigation is to have one fitting connecting the black poly to either a standard garden hose or an outside hose cock. From there everything is done in poly with push (bayonet fittings) unless larger than 25mm (1") when you use fittings with a nut. You run to your garden bed in 3/4" (19mm) or 1/2" (12mm) depending on the length of run and flow required. Generally you would run this down one side of the bed or both if it is wide. You then push either sprayers or drippers into that line. The thin tubes (about 1/4", 6mm) you have are risers to allow the main line to be buried underground or under mulch, they are not really nesessary otherwise but can off course be used to take a dripper or sprayer away from the main pipe if you like. If using sprayers on the end of risers you can have a problem with keeping the jet at the right direction because the riser will bend and move all over the place unless fixed to a solid object. If you push your jets straight into the pipe you don't have that issue because it is more rigid. Drippers waste less water than sprayers but you need more of them as they don't have much spread. Especially in sandy soil the water from drippers goes down not outwards. It is usual to have a filter at the start of the system to reduce the incidence of blocked jets. Some specifics about your setup: - It is usual to terminate an end by folding it over and fastening it somehow (eg with wire), fancy fittings are not required, don't worry. - With no scale I cannot tell for sure if you have 1/2" or 3/4", did you measure it? - The junction between the white supply line and black poly is unusual, where the white tube first steps down it has been glued (the blue stuff is glue) I cannot tell about where the black goes into the green tube, if you cannot twist it at all or if you see a blue line round it then it has probably been glued too. The fact that it needed to be stepped down twice says to me either the underground pipe is much wider than required or you have 1/2" poly coming out instead of 3/4", or both. - You seem to have this white tube buried in a number of places, is it all connected? To what? I don't know the retail prices where you are but here that kind of tube and the fittings for it are much more expensive than black poly and its fittings. I would be heading in the direction of doing most of what you need above ground in black poly. Except for garden forks and lawn mowers it is quite durable. I suspect you will not need very many of the box of fittings. Maybe you can get a refund. - Sprayers or drippers will both be gentle enough for seedlings. I cannot advise on the best refurbishment as I don't know how big your garden is or where the white supply line runs in relation to it. I suggest you stop buying stuff and sit down and plan what you want to do and then buy what you need. The manufacturers and vendors of black poly and fittings often have info and plans on the web. Here is one from a TV garden show: http://www.burkesbackyard.com.au/fac...rrigation/2194 David |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigation setup?
"Danny D." wrote in message
... This drip irrigation setup for a tomato garden is all chewed up: http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403753.jpg So I figured I'd replace it with something better. But what? One end is merely bent over and nailed to these boards: http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403755.jpg And, the other end has this cryptic glued? connection: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403754.jpg I've never worked on drip irrigation before, so I picked up all sorts of 3/4" connections at the box stores: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403764.jpg At Home Depot, the guy told me that it's normal for the drip lines to simply push in, but this end seems to be really really stuck. Another elbow nearby has a NPT-to-Hose fitting on the end: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403769.jpg Would you suggest I simply cut the elbow off and start fresh by putting a garden-hose connection on a T fitting? Note: The plants are tomatoes, which are just now sprouting, so it has to be a gentle irrigation. I think a soaker hose may be too heavy - but I'm not sure what my options are. To add to David's already comprehensive post, here is another online tutorial about polypipe irrigation; http://www.irrigationdirect.com/tuto...-advice/id/12? |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigationsetup?
On 6/25/2013 1:55 AM, Danny D. wrote:
This drip irrigation setup for a tomato garden is all chewed up: http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403753.jpg So I figured I'd replace it with something better. But what? One end is merely bent over and nailed to these boards: http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403755.jpg And, the other end has this cryptic glued? connection: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403754.jpg I've never worked on drip irrigation before, so I picked up all sorts of 3/4" connections at the box stores: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403764.jpg At Home Depot, the guy told me that it's normal for the drip lines to simply push in, but this end seems to be really really stuck. Another elbow nearby has a NPT-to-Hose fitting on the end: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403769.jpg Would you suggest I simply cut the elbow off and start fresh by putting a garden-hose connection on a T fitting? Note: The plants are tomatoes, which are just now sprouting, so it has to be a gentle irrigation. I think a soaker hose may be too heavy - but I'm not sure what my options are. Was it chewed up by critters or just been shredded by rough treatment and exposure to the elements? o_O TDD |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigation setup?
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 06:55:00 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: This drip irrigation setup for a tomato garden is all chewed up: http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403753.jpg So I figured I'd replace it with something better. But what? One end is merely bent over and nailed to these boards: http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403755.jpg They make a figure "8" plastic piece to use on the end. Poly does in one hole, bent and passed back through the top loop. This is great for draining a line to prevent freezing. http://www.sprinklertalk.com/Sprinkler_School/images/img_crimp_hose.jpg And, the other end has this cryptic glued? connection: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403754.jpg That is an insert for the 3/4 PVC. The poly is pushed in. It can be pulled out, but can be a little difficult. Twist and pull. Twist and pull. (remember those straw Chinese finger locks as a kid - you put fingers in each end and would not pull out :-) A compression fitting. There is a bevel sleeve (?) inside that grabs the poly - compression insert http://www.gardendrip.org/images/access_images/12MalePVC700PolyTubingInsert.jpg Compression elbow, compression coupling, compression Tee http://www.dripking.com/views/images/uploads/_9fdc64c5.jpg http://www.dripirrigation.com/system/partphotos/492/tdsphoto/LF002L.jpg?1291332194 http://www.irrigationdirect.com/media/oldImages/Drip-Compression-Tee-620-Tubing-T620-Installed-for-Rain-Drip.jpg I've never worked on drip irrigation before, so I picked up all sorts of 3/4" connections at the box stores: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403764.jpg At Home Depot, the guy told me that it's normal for the drip lines to simply push in, but this end seems to be really really stuck. You have to pull and twist to get the poly out of the insert. A little hard to do, but the poly will come. Another elbow nearby has a NPT-to-Hose fitting on the end: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403769.jpg Would you suggest I simply cut the elbow off and start fresh by putting a garden-hose connection on a T fitting? Note: The plants are tomatoes, which are just now sprouting, so it has to be a gentle irrigation. I think a soaker hose may be too heavy - but I'm not sure what my options are. |
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Oren wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 06:55:00 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D." wrote: This drip irrigation setup for a tomato garden is all chewed up: http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403753.jpg So I figured I'd replace it with something better. But what? One end is merely bent over and nailed to these boards: http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403755.jpg They make a figure "8" plastic piece to use on the end. Poly does in one hole, bent and passed back through the top loop. This is great for draining a line to prevent freezing. http://www.sprinklertalk.com/Sprinkler_School/images/img_crimp_hose.jpg And, the other end has this cryptic glued? connection: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403754.jpg That is an insert for the 3/4 PVC. The poly is pushed in. It can be pulled out, but can be a little difficult. Twist and pull. Twist and pull. (remember those straw Chinese finger locks as a kid - you put fingers in each end and would not pull out :-) A compression fitting. There is a bevel sleeve (?) inside that grabs the poly - compression insert http://www.gardendrip.org/images/access_images/12MalePVC700PolyTubingInsert.jpg Compression elbow, compression coupling, compression Tee http://www.dripking.com/views/images/uploads/_9fdc64c5.jpg http://www.dripirrigation.com/system/partphotos/492/tdsphoto/LF002L.jpg?1291332194 http://www.irrigationdirect.com/media/oldImages/Drip-Compression-Tee-620-Tubing-T620-Installed-for-Rain-Drip.jpg I've never worked on drip irrigation before, so I picked up all sorts of 3/4" connections at the box stores: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403764.jpg At Home Depot, the guy told me that it's normal for the drip lines to simply push in, but this end seems to be really really stuck. You have to pull and twist to get the poly out of the insert. A little hard to do, but the poly will come. Another elbow nearby has a NPT-to-Hose fitting on the end: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13403769.jpg Would you suggest I simply cut the elbow off and start fresh by putting a garden-hose connection on a T fitting? Note: The plants are tomatoes, which are just now sprouting, so it has to be a gentle irrigation. I think a soaker hose may be too heavy - but I'm not sure what my options are. I use that same 1/2 & 1/4 tubing drip irrigation for my garden and flower beds. Maybe I'm just too simple at it, but if something gets tore up, I just cut that part of the tubing out, and insert a new piece of tubing using the right connectors. I have a lot of my garden in big planters and even some hanging planters, and all of them have 1/4 inch dripper lines going to each planter that has an adjustable sprinkler head. It's all connected to a timer and everything gets watered automatically. -- Natural Girl //(**)\\ |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:45:53 -0500, Natural - Smoking Gun - Girl wrote:
if something gets tore up, I just cut that part of the tubing out, and insert a new piece of tubing using the right connectors. Well, this 3/4" and 1/4" irrigation plastic is all torn up (I'm not sure why): http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410428.jpg So, I'd like to start fresh (especially as it's easier to build than to repair), particularly since I have never worked with the stuff before. |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:09:59 -0700, Oren wrote:
They make a figure "8" plastic piece to use on the end. Poly does in one hole, bent and passed back through the top loop. This is great for draining a line to prevent freezing. Hi Oren, Thank you very much for that drawing as I see that whomever it was who originally set up the tubing actually made what appears to be a crude version of a "poor man's figure 8" endloop using electrical tape: http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410465.jpg |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:09:59 -0700, Oren wrote:
That is an insert for the 3/4 PVC. The poly is pushed in. It can be pulled out, but can be a little difficult. Twist and pull. Twist and pull. You weren't kidding it was hard to pull out (the Chinese finger lock description is apropos). I had to pull hard, with pliers: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410474.jpg Of course, I forgot to think ahead; so, um .... I now have a brand new 80psi leak in my plumbing! http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410476.jpg |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:09:59 -0700, Oren wrote:
You have to pull and twist to get the poly out of the insert. A little hard to do, but the poly will come. Hi Oren, Can I shove it back in? At least temporarily? To stop the leak? Or is it a one-time-only compression fitting? http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410486.jpg |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 05:32:56 -0500, The Daring Dufas wrote:
Was it chewed up by critters or just been shredded by rough treatment and exposure to the elements? I'm not sure what chewed it up. The whole thing predates me. I've been using it to create compost from kitchen scraps, until my wife got the bright idea of actually using the resulting mulch to grow tomatoes. http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410495.jpg The funny thing was, no water came out of the thing (it only dripped a bit at the early connections) so I had figured it wasn't working. How wrong I was! http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410500.jpg |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:18:43 +1000, David Hare-Scott wrote:
I am assuming that you only have a modest garden and you are on domestic water mains. The garden doesn't even qualify as modest. It's about 10 feet long, by about 4 feet wide. And, it's connected to well water, at a pressure of about 80 psi. Even the tomato plants don't qualify as modest (yet): http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410510.jpg |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:09:59 -0700, Oren wrote: You have to pull and twist to get the poly out of the insert. A little hard to do, but the poly will come. Hi Oren, Can I shove it back in? At least temporarily? To stop the leak? Or is it a one-time-only compression fitting? http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410486.jpg interruption Hi Danny, thanks for posting the great photos! Are you taking the photos and sending from your phone? /interruption |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 22:22:20 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:09:59 -0700, Oren wrote: You have to pull and twist to get the poly out of the insert. A little hard to do, but the poly will come. Hi Oren, Can I shove it back in? At least temporarily? To stop the leak? Or is it a one-time-only compression fitting? http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410486.jpg I've reused the insert fittings. It will need new poly pipe or it will most likely leak. |
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On 6/25/2013 5:26 PM, Danny D. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 05:32:56 -0500, The Daring Dufas wrote: Was it chewed up by critters or just been shredded by rough treatment and exposure to the elements? I'm not sure what chewed it up. The whole thing predates me. I've been using it to create compost from kitchen scraps, until my wife got the bright idea of actually using the resulting mulch to grow tomatoes. http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410495.jpg The funny thing was, no water came out of the thing (it only dripped a bit at the early connections) so I had figured it wasn't working. How wrong I was! http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410500.jpg I wonder if it could have been damage done by a drain bamaged individual wielding a wild weed eater or a lawless lawnmower? ^_^ TDD |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 22:16:13 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:09:59 -0700, Oren wrote: They make a figure "8" plastic piece to use on the end. Poly does in one hole, bent and passed back through the top loop. This is great for draining a line to prevent freezing. Hi Oren, Thank you very much for that drawing as I see that whomever it was who originally set up the tubing actually made what appears to be a crude version of a "poor man's figure 8" endloop using electrical tape: http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410465.jpg Both methods will work. If a pipe breaks, tape will work until a repair is made. |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:18:43 +1000, David Hare-Scott wrote:
- With no scale I cannot tell for sure if you have 1/2" or 3/4", did you measure it? Hi David, I'm sorry. I should have provided more detail. I just measured the plumbing. 1. The white PVC appears to be 1" in OD so I'd say it's 3/4" pipe. http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410565.jpg 2. The black plastic appears to be 3/4" in OD. http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410552.jpg 3. The "runners?" appear to be 1/4" or even less in OD. http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410571.jpg Of course, now it's all gone, so, I'm actually at a *starting point* of this! http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410583.jpg |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 22:19:56 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:09:59 -0700, Oren wrote: That is an insert for the 3/4 PVC. The poly is pushed in. It can be pulled out, but can be a little difficult. Twist and pull. Twist and pull. You weren't kidding it was hard to pull out (the Chinese finger lock description is apropos). I had to pull hard, with pliers: http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410474.jpg Of course, I forgot to think ahead; so, um .... I now have a brand new 80psi leak in my plumbing! http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410476.jpg Put a short piece (12" of so) of old poly in the insert and use the tape or "figure 8" until you get ready for new poly. Remove it for the new poly. That will stop the flooding for now. Honestly, I've never seen one of the compression fittings leak. |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:18:43 +1000, David Hare-Scott wrote:
I cannot advise on the best refurbishment as I don't know how big your garden is or where the white supply line runs in relation to it. The garden has two duplicate rectangles of about 10 feet by 4 feet, both of which now have scattered tomato seed planted about a week ago. It never rains here in California, at least until December or January, and the garden gets a good mix of sun and shade during the day, as it's overshadowed by some trees on the east but not on the south and west. Each of the two plots has a single 3/4" elbow feeding it, one of which already has a NPT-to-GardenHose Thread male end on it. The other plot now has an open compression fitting to 3/4" poly hose (which needs to be plugged or replaced). Both elbows are on the same irrigation zone, and there is a whoppingly huge 80psi of water pressure to deal with. |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:18:43 +1000, David Hare-Scott wrote:
I suggest you stop buying stuff and sit down and plan what you want to do and then buy what you need. This sounds reasonable. Part of the problem is that the wife took over my kitchen-compost spot, so now, she "owns" this garden (and she has forbidden me to enter it because she feels I end up ruining everything I touch). At the moment, I've flooded her tomatoes, and, I've tried to save all the tiny 6-inch oaks which, in the end, infuriated her because that meant I ended up digging up more of her young tomatoes. I've never done "drip" irrigation, so, I'm not sure what's the *right* way to irrigate her tomatoes (and present it as a surprise to her, all done and working). I *think* my options a a. Garden hose soaker b. Poly irrigation c. A sprinkler pop-up head |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 22:26:25 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 05:32:56 -0500, The Daring Dufas wrote: Was it chewed up by critters or just been shredded by rough treatment and exposure to the elements? I'm not sure what chewed it up. The whole thing predates me. I've been using it to create compost from kitchen scraps, until my wife got the bright idea of actually using the resulting mulch to grow tomatoes. http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410495.jpg The drip lines used need to be covered with some mulch or buried a few inches. In the desert here; the tend to crack and leak sooner while on the soil surface. The funny thing was, no water came out of the thing (it only dripped a bit at the early connections) so I had figured it wasn't working. How wrong I was! http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410500.jpg LOL - turn the valve off at the valve box; unless you need water elsewhere. You and all the past water leaks make me giggle. |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:35:22 -0500, The Daring Dufas wrote:
I wonder if it could have been damage done by a drain bamaged individual wielding a wild weed eater or a lawless lawnmower? Most likely, it was some big fat guy who was composting kitchen scraps with pick and shovel and rake ... who didn't realize what was buried under the soil prior to his arrival. |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:18:43 +1000, David Hare-Scott wrote:
The fact that it needed to be stepped down twice says to me either the underground pipe is much wider than required or you have 1/2" poly coming out instead of 3/4", or both. I *think* I have 3/4" PVC feeding the poly: http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410565.jpg What would you suggest I connect to this elbow? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410592.jpg I was *thinking* of cutting off the elbow, and connecting a "T", and then from the T, screwing on *two* garden hose male threads (I figure if one is good, two must be better). PS: I'm partial to garden hose connections because I can remove them easily when I get my kitchen-scrap compost location back in the winter. |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:29:47 -0700, Guv Bob wrote:
thanks for posting the great photos! Thanks for noticing. It's usually only Oren who appreciates the softer, more artistic side of my OCD personality :) |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:02:10 +0000, Danny D. wrote:
At the moment, I've flooded her tomatoes, and, I've tried to save all the tiny 6-inch oaks which, in the end, infuriated her because that meant I ended up digging up more of her young tomatoes. Here are the oaks which will be replanted somewhe http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410683.jpg I've never re-planted an oak before, but what I plan on doing is picking a spot on the hillside where the roots and crown won't be bothersome - and seeing if they can grow on their own. |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:44:12 -0700, Oren wrote:
Put a short piece (12" of so) of old poly in the insert and use the tape or "figure 8" until you get ready for new poly. Remove it for the new poly. That will stop the flooding for now. Hi Oren, Ah, that's a good idea (I already have the raw materials for that!). As for a more permanent fix, what do you think about me putting one of these 3/4" slip-to-MHT (male hose thread?) fittings directly onto the white-and-green part sticking out of the existing PVC elbow? http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410696.jpg That seems to be a looser fit than a normal PVC pipe dry fit; but with lots of "glue", I think it might work. Is it possible to pry out that green endcap & just place the slip fitting over the remaining white part? (Or do I need to cut off the entire elbow and start again with the slip:slip coupling)? |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:13:36 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:29:47 -0700, Guv Bob wrote: thanks for posting the great photos! Thanks for noticing. It's usually only Oren who appreciates the softer, more artistic side of my OCD personality :) I'm still tinkering with the freeware you suggested. Maybe you missed it when I posted about removing rust from cast iron. .... DIY photo made using freeware suggested by Danny D. http://oi33.tinypic.com/rmnwo5.jpg |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:09:00 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:35:22 -0500, The Daring Dufas wrote: I wonder if it could have been damage done by a drain bamaged individual wielding a wild weed eater or a lawless lawnmower? Most likely, it was some big fat guy who was composting kitchen scraps with pick and shovel and rake ... who didn't realize what was buried under the soil prior to his arrival. That same guy wears a size 11.5 W shoe :) A guy trying to help me once split a 3/4" PVC irrigation line with a shovel. Not me but I had to fix it. |
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:35:09 -0700, Oren wrote:
It will need new poly pipe I will put all new "stuff" on there, as that's the only way I'll know how it is put together anyway. What I *think* I'll do is replicate what "was" on the other elbow (of the other nearby tomato plot), which is a MHT garden-hose fitting (which had a soaker hose on it until the wife ripped it off in the mistaken believe that I put it there and that it was a thread, somehow, to the baby tomato plants): http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410718.jpg |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigation setup?
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 22:43:53 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: 3. The "runners?" appear to be 1/4" or even less in OD. http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410571.jpg I follow the notion to use fewer 1/4" tubes in the 1/2" poly. The more holes you pierce in the 1/2" adds to potential leaks. It cuts water flow a bit, but the tube drip heads can be adjusted to compensate. Or run it longer on the timer. The 1/4" can be "teed off" the main drip line with barbed fittings. Easier to fix than a 1/2" pipe with 10 holes in it. I put in my front yard (desert) a manifold. Tubes run from it. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HoeIZg0eL.jpg Each line can be adjusted for water flow. Given your small space I bet the manifold (4 port) would be best. I forget if the manifold is threaded into an old sprinkler head tee. You get the idea. |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigation setup?
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:39:07 -0700, Oren wrote:
I put in my front yard (desert) a manifold. Tubes run from it. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HoeIZg0eL.jpg BTW. If you cut that PVC elbow / insert fitting off at the pipe (save as much pipe as you can) then use an 8 port manifold; would give you 8 drip lines in the small space. Make the runs as long as you like. Look in a real local garden / nursery center and how it fits the pipe. |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigation setup?
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:36:46 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:44:12 -0700, Oren wrote: Put a short piece (12" of so) of old poly in the insert and use the tape or "figure 8" until you get ready for new poly. Remove it for the new poly. That will stop the flooding for now. Hi Oren, Ah, that's a good idea (I already have the raw materials for that!). As for a more permanent fix, what do you think about me putting one of these 3/4" slip-to-MHT (male hose thread?) fittings directly onto the white-and-green part sticking out of the existing PVC elbow? http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410696.jpg That seems to be a looser fit than a normal PVC pipe dry fit; but with lots of "glue", I think it might work. Is it possible to pry out that green endcap & just place the slip fitting over the remaining white part? (Or do I need to cut off the entire elbow and start again with the slip:slip coupling)? See my post on a drip line manifold (2). |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigation setup?
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:02:10 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:18:43 +1000, David Hare-Scott wrote: I suggest you stop buying stuff and sit down and plan what you want to do and then buy what you need. Just wait until we get into "trade sizes" for O-rings. It gets better or worse, I forget. This sounds reasonable. Part of the problem is that the wife took over my kitchen-compost spot, so now, she "owns" this garden (and she has forbidden me to enter it because she feels I end up ruining everything I touch). At the moment, I've flooded her tomatoes, and, I've tried to save all the tiny 6-inch oaks which, in the end, infuriated her because that meant I ended up digging up more of her young tomatoes. I've never done "drip" irrigation, so, I'm not sure what's the *right* way to irrigate her tomatoes (and present it as a surprise to her, all done and working). I *think* my options a a. Garden hose soaker b. Poly irrigation c. A sprinkler pop-up head Did I ever mention to you that you need a "permission slip"? Get off of her lawn :) |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigation setup?
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:28:41 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: Here are the oaks which will be replanted somewhe http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410683.jpg I've never re-planted an oak before, but what I plan on doing is picking a spot on the hillside where the roots and crown won't be bothersome - and seeing if they can grow on their own. Water them in good at planting ( soak well ). Send the kids out now and then with a bucket of water to soak the oaks (rattlesnakes on the hill / ravine - remember). Do not drown them in early stages. |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigation setup?
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:59:16 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13410718.jpg Get use to it. Emotion and Logic cross paths. Fixed a honey do project the other day. A drippin' RO sink faucet. Had her watch a 2 minute video to show her what it needs. Then tells me I'm doing it wrong because (the guy has a new facet for a demo). Said I needed to remove the base. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQQWZqNu7BY Took me all of ten minutes. Guess who won that one... It gets better; well after menopause, maybe! Maybe not :) http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/1594036756 |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigation setup?
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:10:22 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: PS: I'm partial to garden hose connections because I can remove them easily....... So can the wife :-\ |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigationsetup?
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:39:07 -0700, Oren wrote:
Easier to fix than a 1/2" pipe with 10 holes in it. I was wondering about that. Why doesn't anyone just take a length of 3/4" PVC and drill a few holes in it? Seems to me the cheapest and strongest method. I guess the only downside is you need a drill press to make it efficient. |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigationsetup?
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:50:41 -0700, Oren wrote:
use an 8 port manifold I had not even thought of that, but it has the advantage that the drip lines would all radiate from the same point, so the water flow should be even, right? |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigationsetup?
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:08:59 -0700, Oren wrote:
Did I ever mention to you that you need a "permission slip"? She has threatened to lock the gate to the tomato garden! |
What are my options for fixing this chewed up drip irrigationsetup?
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:44:57 -0700, chaniarts wrote:
i'd suggest using poly, which is very cheap and easily changed. have you strewn the seeds, or planted in rows? She "strew" them (strowed them?), so they're all scattered about. (She doesn't have a whole lotta' patience like I do.) |
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