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Scientists lie?
On 02/08/2015 09:43 AM, Frank wrote:
Who would have thunk it? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...ndal-ever.html Hi Frank, Here is a fun read from the non-idealogical (non-religious) side of climate studies. http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/im...not_rising.pdf "The President of Tuvalu continues to claim that his islands are being flooded. Yet the tide-gauge data provide clear indications of stability over the last 30 years (Mörner, 2007ac, 2010b; Murphy, 2007). In Vanuatu, the tide gauge indicates a stable sea level over the last 14 years (Mörner, 2007c) Great telemetry too That is only a tiny tid bit of the article. It sounds like Tuvalu has their hand out for money! -T Can't wait for Professor Nils-Axel Mörner to be called a known liar by the Lysenkoists, yada, yada, yada . (Then they will discover that -- surprise -- "-T" is actually "Todd!" Duh!!!) Religion and politics need to butt out of science. |
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Scientists lie?
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:04:47 -0800, T wrote:
On 02/08/2015 09:43 AM, Frank wrote: Who would have thunk it? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...ndal-ever.html Hi Frank, Here is a fun read from the non-idealogical (non-religious) side of climate studies. http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/im...not_rising.pdf "The President of Tuvalu continues to claim that his islands are being flooded. Yet the tide-gauge data provide clear indications of stability over the last 30 years (Mörner, 2007ac, 2010b; Murphy, 2007). In Vanuatu, the tide gauge indicates a stable sea level over the last 14 years (Mörner, 2007c) Great telemetry too That is only a tiny tid bit of the article. It sounds like Tuvalu has their hand out for money! -T Can't wait for Professor Nils-Axel Mörner to be called a known liar by the Lysenkoists, yada, yada, yada . (Then they will discover that -- surprise -- "-T" is actually "Todd!" Duh!!!) Religion and politics need to butt out of science. Mornier's sources reject his claims. http://www.skepticalscience.com/Nils...evel-rise.html |
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Scientists lie?
On 02/20/2015 05:32 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:04:47 -0800, T wrote: On 02/08/2015 09:43 AM, Frank wrote: Who would have thunk it? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...ndal-ever.html Hi Frank, Here is a fun read from the non-idealogical (non-religious) side of climate studies. http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/im...not_rising.pdf "The President of Tuvalu continues to claim that his islands are being flooded. Yet the tide-gauge data provide clear indications of stability over the last 30 years (Mörner, 2007ac, 2010b; Murphy, 2007). In Vanuatu, the tide gauge indicates a stable sea level over the last 14 years (Mörner, 2007c) Great telemetry too That is only a tiny tid bit of the article. It sounds like Tuvalu has their hand out for money! -T Can't wait for Professor Nils-Axel Mörner to be called a known liar by the Lysenkoists, yada, yada, yada . (Then they will discover that -- surprise -- "-T" is actually "Todd!" Duh!!!) Religion and politics need to butt out of science. Mornier's sources reject his claims. http://www.skepticalscience.com/Nils...evel-rise.html That is to be expected. |
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Scientists lie?
On 2/20/2015 8:04 PM, T wrote:
On 02/08/2015 09:43 AM, Frank wrote: Who would have thunk it? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...ndal-ever.html Hi Frank, Here is a fun read from the non-idealogical (non-religious) side of climate studies. http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/im...not_rising.pdf "The President of Tuvalu continues to claim that his islands are being flooded. Yet the tide-gauge data provide clear indications of stability over the last 30 years (Mörner, 2007ac, 2010b; Murphy, 2007). In Vanuatu, the tide gauge indicates a stable sea level over the last 14 years (Mörner, 2007c) Great telemetry too That is only a tiny tid bit of the article. It sounds like Tuvalu has their hand out for money! -T Can't wait for Professor Nils-Axel Mörner to be called a known liar by the Lysenkoists, yada, yada, yada . (Then they will discover that -- surprise -- "-T" is actually "Todd!" Duh!!!) Religion and politics need to butt out of science. Whether warming, cooling or neither, the science has been highly politicized mainly by those that are government control freaks, i.e. progressives/liberals. Just trying to point out that it is not beyond scientists to cherry pick data or even lie for their own advancement or for their political views. Having worked most of my life in R&D I found the majority of scientists bent to the left as if they had never left the university. |
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Scientists lie?
On 02/20/2015 06:01 PM, Frank wrote:
On 2/20/2015 8:04 PM, T wrote: On 02/08/2015 09:43 AM, Frank wrote: Who would have thunk it? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...ndal-ever.html Hi Frank, Here is a fun read from the non-idealogical (non-religious) side of climate studies. http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/im...not_rising.pdf "The President of Tuvalu continues to claim that his islands are being flooded. Yet the tide-gauge data provide clear indications of stability over the last 30 years (Mörner, 2007ac, 2010b; Murphy, 2007). In Vanuatu, the tide gauge indicates a stable sea level over the last 14 years (Mörner, 2007c) Great telemetry too That is only a tiny tid bit of the article. It sounds like Tuvalu has their hand out for money! -T Can't wait for Professor Nils-Axel Mörner to be called a known liar by the Lysenkoists, yada, yada, yada . (Then they will discover that -- surprise -- "-T" is actually "Todd!" Duh!!!) Religion and politics need to butt out of science. Whether warming, cooling or neither, the science has been highly politicized mainly by those that are government control freaks, i.e. progressives/liberals. Just trying to point out that it is not beyond scientists to cherry pick data or even lie for their own advancement or for their political views. Having worked most of my life in R&D I found the majority of scientists bent to the left as if they had never left the university. The cherry picking drives me nuts. |
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Scientists lie?
On 02/20/2015 06:01 PM, Frank wrote:
On 2/20/2015 8:04 PM, T wrote: On 02/08/2015 09:43 AM, Frank wrote: Who would have thunk it? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...ndal-ever.html Hi Frank, Here is a fun read from the non-idealogical (non-religious) side of climate studies. http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/im...not_rising.pdf "The President of Tuvalu continues to claim that his islands are being flooded. Yet the tide-gauge data provide clear indications of stability over the last 30 years (Mörner, 2007ac, 2010b; Murphy, 2007). In Vanuatu, the tide gauge indicates a stable sea level over the last 14 years (Mörner, 2007c) Great telemetry too That is only a tiny tid bit of the article. It sounds like Tuvalu has their hand out for money! -T Can't wait for Professor Nils-Axel Mörner to be called a known liar by the Lysenkoists, yada, yada, yada . (Then they will discover that -- surprise -- "-T" is actually "Todd!" Duh!!!) Religion and politics need to butt out of science. Whether warming, cooling or neither, the science has been highly politicized mainly by those that are government control freaks, i.e. progressives/liberals. Just trying to point out that it is not beyond scientists to cherry pick data or even lie for their own advancement or for their political views. Seen that myself. Having worked most of my life in R&D I found the majority of scientists bent to the left as if they had never left the university. Hi Frank, There was a study about 20 years ago that set to prove that countries that had low fat diets had less heart disease. He left out all the considerable data on counties where the had high fat diets and low heart disease. He even went so far as to make his test in Crete during Orthodox Lent, when the eat little meat, to prove his point. I don't remember the exact name of the study. We are still suffering from his fraud to this day. Global Warming has been around for long enough that the models have had time to pan out. They couldn't predict if the sun was to rise tomorrow they are so bad. But, as long as the endless funding continues ... Which Communist said that they would never try to take our freedom by force again, but rather they would convince us to give it to them willingly? Sounds like he is in full swing. -T |
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