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Chip G. 15-05-2003 05:08 AM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
On my recently purchased property I have a huge poison ivy problem.
Poison ivy is found in every rock wall (several), around the base of
nearly every tree (plenty), and even in large areas of grass (which
used to be over grown with tall grass and small shrubs). What is the
best method to kill the poison ivy without killing all the grass,
trees, and shrubs which surround it?

After one bout of the oozing rash this year I have finally become an
expert of identifying the "leaves of three". Unfortunately with the
size of the local population I don't have much choice about "leaving it
be".

Thanks for your help,

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Peter H 15-05-2003 11:44 AM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 

"Chip G." wrote in message
...
On my recently purchased property I have a huge poison ivy problem.
Poison ivy is found in every rock wall (several), around the base of
nearly every tree (plenty), and even in large areas of grass (which
used to be over grown with tall grass and small shrubs). What is the
best method to kill the poison ivy without killing all the grass,
trees, and shrubs which surround it?

After one bout of the oozing rash this year I have finally become an
expert of identifying the "leaves of three". Unfortunately with the
size of the local population I don't have much choice about "leaving it
be".

Thanks for your help,

--
--Chip



If I recall properly poison ivy is susceptible to most weed killers. Whack
it now and then again in 2 weeks.

Peter H



JNJ 15-05-2003 12:32 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
On my recently purchased property I have a huge poison ivy problem.
Poison ivy is found in every rock wall (several), around the base of
nearly every tree (plenty), and even in large areas of grass (which
used to be over grown with tall grass and small shrubs). What is the
best method to kill the poison ivy without killing all the grass,
trees, and shrubs which surround it?


I have found 2 solutions effective.

1) RoundUp -- In areas where you cannot spray, use a paintbrush to apply it
directly to the leaves.

2) Urine -- Human or animal urine, directly on the leaves works wonders. My
dogs keep the fenceline clean now.

James



Frogleg 15-05-2003 02:44 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
On Thu, 15 May 2003 00:04:20 -0400, "Chip G."
wrote:

On my recently purchased property I have a huge poison ivy problem.
Poison ivy is found in every rock wall (several), around the base of
nearly every tree (plenty), and even in large areas of grass (which
used to be over grown with tall grass and small shrubs). What is the
best method to kill the poison ivy without killing all the grass,
trees, and shrubs which surround it?

After one bout of the oozing rash this year I have finally become an
expert of identifying the "leaves of three". Unfortunately with the
size of the local population I don't have much choice about "leaving it
be".


Check Google groups for "poison ivy" discussions here. Much good
advice and multiple cautions. Fortunately, It *can* be eradicated. But
take care. And beware 2nd-hand connections. Don't scratch!

Phisherman 15-05-2003 04:56 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
On Thu, 15 May 2003 00:04:20 -0400, "Chip G."
wrote:

On my recently purchased property I have a huge poison ivy problem.
Poison ivy is found in every rock wall (several), around the base of
nearly every tree (plenty), and even in large areas of grass (which
used to be over grown with tall grass and small shrubs). What is the
best method to kill the poison ivy without killing all the grass,
trees, and shrubs which surround it?

After one bout of the oozing rash this year I have finally become an
expert of identifying the "leaves of three". Unfortunately with the
size of the local population I don't have much choice about "leaving it
be".

Thanks for your help,


RoundUp works great in secluded areas. Ortho makes a foaming poison
ivy killer--I spray a little into a cup and carefully put the foam
onto the plant using a brush. I get someone who is not allergic to
poison ivy to pull it out of the flowerbeds and groundcover areas.
I'm very allergic to the stuff so I won't take any chances with gloves
and protective clothing. Recognizing the plant is so important!
Because you have a lot of it, you might want to hire someone to remove
it for you then you can spot-control from then on.

Chip G. 15-05-2003 06:32 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
In article , JNJ
wrote:

1) RoundUp -- In areas where you cannot spray, use a paintbrush to apply it
directly to the leaves.


Roundup will kill anything it touches, right? I'd like to find a spray
that can be broadly applied to large areas without killing all the
grass, trees, or shrubs.

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Frank Logullo 15-05-2003 07:32 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 

"Chip G." wrote in message
...
In article , JNJ
wrote:

1) RoundUp -- In areas where you cannot spray, use a paintbrush to apply

it
directly to the leaves.


Roundup will kill anything it touches, right? I'd like to find a spray
that can be broadly applied to large areas without killing all the
grass, trees, or shrubs.

Broadleaf killer that is safe for lawn will work. Of course you must leave
off broadleaf trees etc.
The urine guy is nuts. Dogs are probably just killing all growth.



JNJ 15-05-2003 08:20 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 

The urine guy is nuts. Dogs are probably just killing all growth.


Nope -- actually tested it. Urine kills the stuff. And there's plenty of
other stuff growing along the fenceline as well.

James



Ed Lucarini 16-05-2003 03:08 AM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
Hi Chris,

I'm a former cable guy and I use to have to deal with Poison Ivy alot when I
worked in the field. I have to tell you about this amazing product I found
to protect me (being highly allergic to poison Oak and Ivy) from getting a
rash.

The stuff is called Tecnu outdoor skin cleanser for poison oak and ivy. It
kills the affecting oils from the plant. You can find it at CVS or maybe
Walgreens. This stuff saved me many times. So if you want to rip the stuff
out by hand use Tecnu liberally then wear gloves, long sleeves and pants and
have at it. Then, afterward, I would apply it again on my head neck and
wrists ( any wear that could have gotten exposed) and go in and shower.

good luck
Ed
"Chip G." wrote in message
...
On my recently purchased property I have a huge poison ivy problem.
Poison ivy is found in every rock wall (several), around the base of
nearly every tree (plenty), and even in large areas of grass (which
used to be over grown with tall grass and small shrubs). What is the
best method to kill the poison ivy without killing all the grass,
trees, and shrubs which surround it?

After one bout of the oozing rash this year I have finally become an
expert of identifying the "leaves of three". Unfortunately with the
size of the local population I don't have much choice about "leaving it
be".

Thanks for your help,

--
--Chip
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Danielle 16-05-2003 11:20 AM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
"Ed Lucarini" wrote in message . net...
Hi Chris,

I'm a former cable guy and I use to have to deal with Poison Ivy alot when I
worked in the field. I have to tell you about this amazing product I found
to protect me (being highly allergic to poison Oak and Ivy) from getting a
rash.

The stuff is called Tecnu outdoor skin cleanser for poison oak and ivy. It
kills the affecting oils from the plant. You can find it at CVS or maybe
Walgreens. This stuff saved me many times. So if you want to rip the stuff
out by hand use Tecnu liberally then wear gloves, long sleeves and pants and
have at it. Then, afterward, I would apply it again on my head neck and
wrists ( any wear that could have gotten exposed) and go in and shower.

good luck
Ed
"Chip G." wrote in message
...
On my recently purchased property I have a huge poison ivy problem.
Poison ivy is found in every rock wall (several), around the base of
nearly every tree (plenty), and even in large areas of grass (which
used to be over grown with tall grass and small shrubs). What is the
best method to kill the poison ivy without killing all the grass,
trees, and shrubs which surround it?

After one bout of the oozing rash this year I have finally become an
expert of identifying the "leaves of three". Unfortunately with the
size of the local population I don't have much choice about "leaving it
be".

Thanks for your help,

--
--Chip
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Am i right in thinking that urinating on the effected area helps with the problem?

Peter H 16-05-2003 12:20 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 

"Danielle" wrote in message
om...
"Ed Lucarini" wrote in message

. net...
Hi Chris,

I'm a former cable guy and I use to have to deal with Poison Ivy alot

when I
worked in the field. I have to tell you about this amazing product I

found
to protect me (being highly allergic to poison Oak and Ivy) from getting

a
rash.

The stuff is called Tecnu outdoor skin cleanser for poison oak and ivy.

It
kills the affecting oils from the plant. You can find it at CVS or

maybe
Walgreens. This stuff saved me many times. So if you want to rip the

stuff
out by hand use Tecnu liberally then wear gloves, long sleeves and pants

and
have at it. Then, afterward, I would apply it again on my head neck and
wrists ( any wear that could have gotten exposed) and go in and shower.

good luck
Ed
"Chip G." wrote in message
...
On my recently purchased property I have a huge poison ivy problem.
Poison ivy is found in every rock wall (several), around the base of
nearly every tree (plenty), and even in large areas of grass (which
used to be over grown with tall grass and small shrubs). What is the
best method to kill the poison ivy without killing all the grass,
trees, and shrubs which surround it?

After one bout of the oozing rash this year I have finally become an
expert of identifying the "leaves of three". Unfortunately with the
size of the local population I don't have much choice about "leaving

it
be".

Thanks for your help,

--
--Chip
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Am i right in thinking that urinating on the effected area helps with the

problem?

I'm going to have to stop reading this post before I urinate myself. hehehe

Peter H



Peter H 16-05-2003 12:20 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 

"JNJ" wrote in message
...

The urine guy is nuts. Dogs are probably just killing all growth.


Nope -- actually tested it. Urine kills the stuff. And there's plenty of
other stuff growing along the fenceline as well.

James



So I guess all you really need is a couple of cases of beer, a big party,
and an " out of order" sign for the bathroom. ;-)

Peter H



Dwight Sipler 16-05-2003 12:44 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
Peter H wrote:

"JNJ" wrote in message
...

The urine guy is nuts. Dogs are probably just killing all growth.


Nope -- actually tested it. Urine kills the stuff. And there's plenty of
other stuff growing along the fenceline as well.



I've tried it and while it kills the leaves and sets poison ivy back a
bit, it doesn't kill the plant. Not a long-term solution.

Dwight Sipler 16-05-2003 12:56 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
"Ed Lucarini" wrote ...
...I'm a former cable guy and I use to have to deal with Poison Ivy alot when I
worked in the field. I have to tell you about this amazing product I found
to protect me (being highly allergic to poison Oak and Ivy) from getting a
rash.

The stuff is called Tecnu outdoor skin cleanser for poison oak and ivy. It
kills the affecting oils from the plant. You can find it at CVS or maybe
Walgreens. This stuff saved me many times. So if you want to rip the stuff
out by hand use Tecnu liberally then wear gloves, long sleeves and pants and
have at it. Then, afterward, I would apply it again on my head neck and
wrists ( any wear that could have gotten exposed) and go in and shower.



Tecnu is readily available.

I have also used yellow soap (Fels Naptha). Work up a lather on your
arms and let it dry. Our farm workers use this and it keeps them from
getting it. After you've gotten into the PI, just wash the whole thing
off. Soap is already there. The treatment may have to be renewed
periodically, depending on how much you perspire.

I expect it varies on different people, but the irritant oil from PI
takes around 10-20 minutes to get through the skin. If you wash promptly
(even without the pre-treatment described above) it appears to keep the
rash away, or at least minimize it.

I have a set of PI gloves. I spray painted the back of the gloves red so
they're recognizable (paint wears off the palms of the gloves). That way
I can (1) not contaminate all my gloves and (2) be careful putting on
the PI gloves.

Something like 25-40% of the population doesn't get PI rashes, or at
least they aren't hypersensitive to it. Find one of these people and
hire them to pull out the roots of the PI. It generally takes a couple
of tries to get all the roots. PI in stone walls is much harder to get
rid of.

I've also heard that Jewelweed can be used as a topical treatment for
the rash. Jewelweed grows along the edge of wet areas. It has a hollow
stem and the seeds are formed in such a way that if disturbed they
spring apart and fly outward (the plant is also called "touch-me-not").

Note that the irritant oil can be carried on clothing for a long time.
If you turn your clothing inside out when you take it off, you can keep
your laundry engineer from getting PI from your clothes.

I haven't found a good way to keep your pets from giving it to you.

Frank Logullo 16-05-2003 03:20 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 

"JNJ" wrote in message
...

The urine guy is nuts. Dogs are probably just killing all growth.


Nope -- actually tested it. Urine kills the stuff. And there's plenty of
other stuff growing along the fenceline as well.

Don't want to get into a ****ing match. But in my personal experience, mine
doesn't work.
But, then, I am not a dog. Perhaps you can research the difference. Would
be highly useful to herbicide manufacturers looking for organic solutions ;)
Frank



JNJ 16-05-2003 04:32 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
So I guess all you really need is a couple of cases of beer, a big party,
and an " out of order" sign for the bathroom. ;-)


ROTFLMAO



JNJ 16-05-2003 04:44 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
Don't want to get into a ****ing match.

Bad pun, Frank. :)

But in my personal experience, mine doesn't work.
But, then, I am not a dog. Perhaps you can research the difference.

Would
be highly useful to herbicide manufacturers looking for organic solutions

;)

LOL. I'm assuming the urine just burns it out. To be honest, I've never
really given it much thought.

James



simy1 16-05-2003 06:20 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
"Chip G." wrote in message . ..
In article , JNJ
wrote:

1) RoundUp -- In areas where you cannot spray, use a paintbrush to apply it
directly to the leaves.


Roundup will kill anything it touches, right? I'd like to find a spray
that can be broadly applied to large areas without killing all the
grass, trees, or shrubs.


do as you are advised. I was in the hospital three times until I
discovered the merits of applying Roundup with a small paintbrush. You
only need to touch one leaf to kill the whole plant. Trust me. The
other thing that helps is whacking all the large vines in your
neighborhood (say, within 200 yds of your home). a nice little cut at
the base of the vine will do. That will shut off the sources of seeds.
If you cut a large vine on your property, you will have billions
suckers. Mow them where possible, or roundup them.

Stephen M. Henning 16-05-2003 07:56 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
JNJ wrote:
1) RoundUp -- In areas where you cannot spray, use a paintbrush to apply it
directly to the leaves.


Roundup will kill anything it touches, right? I'd like to find a spray
that can be broadly applied to large areas without killing all the
grass, trees, or shrubs.


A standard technique to apply roundup selectively is to put on a pair of
long rubber gloves and then cover them with a pair of short cotton
gloves. Then apply the roundup to one of the cotton gloves and run the
glove over the poison ivy/oak. This will apply a nice coat of roundup
to the plant. Care needs to be taken regarding any dripping from the
glove. You can use the second cotton glove to help catch any drips.
This technique is also used for bind weed, morning glory and other nasty
weeds that grow in areas with plants that you don't want to kill. It
was successfully used by a horticulturist at Longwood gardens to get
bindweed out of his asparagus bed.

With poison ivy, the leaves are waxy and are difficult to kill. Also,
if the poison ivy has grown to the top of nearby trees, it is even
harder to kill. The standard recommendation is to cut off the top part
of the vine, say above 3 or 4 feet. Then apply roundup thoroughly to the
lower leaves.

I was looking at the label of the newer roundup that "kills weeds in 24
hours" and it is just the old roundup applied at twice the old rate. I
always do that anyway on poison ivy.

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Jack Straw 16-05-2003 09:20 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
(simy1):

do as you are advised. I was in the hospital three times until I
discovered the merits of applying Roundup with a small paintbrush. You
only need to touch one leaf to kill the whole plant. Trust me. The
other thing that helps is whacking all the large vines in your
neighborhood (say, within 200 yds of your home). a nice little cut at
the base of the vine will do. That will shut off the sources of seeds.
If you cut a large vine on your property, you will have billions
suckers. Mow them where possible, or roundup them.


Wow. I have a hoary PI vine growing up one particular tree. It's
maybe 3/4" to 1" thick. I've been chasing ground-level PI around with
roundup for a while, and was going to whack the main vine today.
Since it's raining, I didnt' get to it.

By what you say, it almost sounds like I'd be better to let the main
vine grow, so as not to force suckers all over the place...

And I thought i had it licked.

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MacTech 17-05-2003 01:08 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
"Chip G." wrote
On my recently purchased property I have a huge poison ivy problem.


You can also get rid of it by putting the lights out. Get some tar
paper, heavy thick black paper that is put under shingles. Cover the
PI up and wait. The tar paper will block light and will heat up the
ground to burn the roots out. This works well around trees because it
won't kill the trees or shrubs but it will kill the grass. Use Round
up on the grass and then resead in the fall.

Randy

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JNJ 17-05-2003 03:20 PM

Poison Ivy -- Getting Rid of It
 
Wow. I have a hoary PI vine growing up one particular tree. It's
maybe 3/4" to 1" thick. I've been chasing ground-level PI around with
roundup for a while, and was going to whack the main vine today.
Since it's raining, I didnt' get to it.

By what you say, it almost sounds like I'd be better to let the main
vine grow, so as not to force suckers all over the place...


Cut the vine just above a few stems of leaves. RoundUp those leaves and the
top of the vine. You don't want that puppy setting seed -- any suckers it
sends out can be mowed down or hit with RoundUp again later.

James




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