I have an out of control parcel of land which is full of weed, shrubs,
even small trees. It has been like this for about 10 years now, so
various animals currently inhabit the land (groundhogs, rabbits, etc.)
What's the best means of cleaning up this parcel? Of course, I want
to convert this untamed piece of land to a lawn full of green grass.

I was told that the best means of doing so would be to buy heavy,
thick black plastic covers, so that no sunlight will penetrate. I was
also told, however, that it's too late in the season to do so (I live
in New Jersey which has four full seasons).

Is this right? If so, is there anything I can do between now and the
next summer? Do weed killers work in fall or winter?

How would you go about taming a piece of property like this?

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I have an out of control parcel of land which is full of weed, shrubs,
even small trees. It has been like this for about 10 years now, so
various animals currently inhabit the land (groundhogs, rabbits, etc.)
What's the best means of cleaning up this parcel? Of course, I want
to convert this untamed piece of land to a lawn full of green grass.

I was told that the best means of doing so would be to buy heavy,
thick black plastic covers, so that no sunlight will penetrate. I was
also told, however, that it's too late in the season to do so (I live
in New Jersey which has four full seasons).

Is this right? If so, is there anything I can do between now and the
next summer? Do weed killers work in fall or winter?

How would you go about taming a piece of property like this?

Hire somebody woith the equipment to handle the job--this would involve
removing any trees or bushes with trunk diamaeters over 2-2 1/2 inches. Then
chop the field with a brush hog-rake up the debris and cart it away--then use a
rototiller to till the ground==forget trying to do anything yourself, you
obviously have neither the equipment or the know how to handle the job

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:42:09 GMT, wrote:


How would you go about taming a piece of property like this?

The best way is to find someone with a bunch of goats, and borrow them
for a few days or a week.

Then, go in and salvage any trees that were left behind by the goats.

why don't you rethink your objectives instead of nuking the whole place.
look in to bird and butterfly and friendly habitat with some meadow
mixes. A pristine lawn is a dead zone. Read up on endophyte turfs that
look really good but are bad for the bugs. The bird eat the nuked bugs,
and go someplace and die. check your local audubon for suggestions.

Paul Below wrote:

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:42:09 GMT, wrote:


How would you go about taming a piece of property like this?


The best way is to find someone with a bunch of goats, and borrow them
for a few days or a week.

Then, go in and salvage any trees that were left behind by the goats.


That's the best suggestion I've heard so far. Although you never said how
much property it is. A vacant city lot? Five acres? Couple of square miles?

Another thing you can do is hire someone to burn it. Seriously; you don't
want to do it yourself. Get the local firechief to help. After it's
burned you can convert it back to a proper meadow.

Best regards,
Bob

"HARRYLEHMANHORSELOGGING" wrote in message
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why don't you rethink your objectives instead of nuking the whole place.
look in to bird and butterfly and friendly habitat with some meadow
mixes. A pristine lawn is a dead zone. Read up on endophyte turfs that
look really good but are bad for the bugs. The bird eat the nuked bugs,
and go someplace and die. check your local audubon for suggestions.

hehehe

Peter H

wrote in message
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I have an out of control parcel of land which is full of weed, shrubs,
even small trees. It has been like this for about 10 years now, so
various animals currently inhabit the land (groundhogs, rabbits, etc.)
What's the best means of cleaning up this parcel? Of course, I want
to convert this untamed piece of land to a lawn full of green grass.

I was told that the best means of doing so would be to buy heavy,
thick black plastic covers, so that no sunlight will penetrate. I was
also told, however, that it's too late in the season to do so (I live
in New Jersey which has four full seasons).

Is this right? If so, is there anything I can do between now and the
next summer? Do weed killers work in fall or winter?

How would you go about taming a piece of property like this?

Roundup will tame that piece of property in short order, but you will still
be left with the dead stuff to pull out and dispose of. You can use
weedkillers in the fall.

Peter H

Make an antonymous call to the FBI that Jimmy Hoffa is buried
somewhere on the property...it's a plan, not necessarily a GOOD plan
mind you but a plan!

(Tongue firmly in cheek)

I like the suggestion of working WITH the current growth rather than
creating yet another plain green nature less lawn.

Dave


On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:42:09 GMT, wrote:

I have an out of control parcel of land which is full of weed, shrubs,
even small trees. It has been like this for about 10 years now, so
various animals currently inhabit the land (groundhogs, rabbits, etc.)
What's the best means of cleaning up this parcel? Of course, I want
to convert this untamed piece of land to a lawn full of green grass.

I was told that the best means of doing so would be to buy heavy,
thick black plastic covers, so that no sunlight will penetrate. I was
also told, however, that it's too late in the season to do so (I live
in New Jersey which has four full seasons).

Is this right? If so, is there anything I can do between now and the
next summer? Do weed killers work in fall or winter?

How would you go about taming a piece of property like this?

Dave Fouchey, WA4EMR
http://photos.yahoo.com/davefouchey
Southeastern Lower Michigan
42° 35' 20'' N,
82° 58' 37'' W
GMT Offset: -5
Time Zone: Eastern

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I have an out of control parcel of land which is full of weed, shrubs,
even small trees. It has been like this for about 10 years now, so
various animals currently inhabit the land (groundhogs, rabbits, etc.)
What's the best means of cleaning up this parcel? Of course, I want
to convert this untamed piece of land to a lawn full of green grass.

I was told that the best means of doing so would be to buy heavy,
thick black plastic covers, so that no sunlight will penetrate. I was
also told, however, that it's too late in the season to do so (I live
in New Jersey which has four full seasons).

Is this right? If so, is there anything I can do between now and the
next summer? Do weed killers work in fall or winter?

How would you go about taming a piece of property like this?

Roundup will tame that piece of property in short order, but you will
still
be left with the dead stuff to pull out and dispose of. You can use
weedkillers in the fall.

Peter H



Just burn it out...

wrote in message . ..
I have an out of control parcel of land which is full of weed, shrubs,
even small trees. It has been like this for about 10 years now, so
various animals currently inhabit the land (groundhogs, rabbits, etc.)
What's the best means of cleaning up this parcel? Of course, I want
to convert this untamed piece of land to a lawn full of green grass.

I was told that the best means of doing so would be to buy heavy,
thick black plastic covers, so that no sunlight will penetrate. I was
also told, however, that it's too late in the season to do so (I live
in New Jersey which has four full seasons).

Is this right? If so, is there anything I can do between now and the
next summer? Do weed killers work in fall or winter?

How would you go about taming a piece of property like this?

D8 caterpillar, Grade-all , then York rake

I have found when reclaiming old pasture land for a lawn that you will
eventually get grass if you keep mowing it. The trick is keeping the weeds
from seeding out. I would try mowing it, then in the fall do the following:
aerate, top-dress with compost, and overseed/water to encourage new growth.
We managed to get a nice Iowa lawn in 2 years -- it had been really ROUGH
pasture land before that. Without any really drastic measures.

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the air softer, and the morning more fragrant
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wrote in message
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I have an out of control parcel of land which is full of weed, shrubs,
even small trees. It has been like this for about 10 years now, so
various animals currently inhabit the land (groundhogs, rabbits, etc.)
What's the best means of cleaning up this parcel? Of course, I want
to convert this untamed piece of land to a lawn full of green grass.

I was told that the best means of doing so would be to buy heavy,
thick black plastic covers, so that no sunlight will penetrate. I was
also told, however, that it's too late in the season to do so (I live
in New Jersey which has four full seasons).

Is this right? If so, is there anything I can do between now and the
next summer? Do weed killers work in fall or winter?

How would you go about taming a piece of property like this?

Roundup will tame that piece of property in short order, but you will
still
be left with the dead stuff to pull out and dispose of. You can use
weedkillers in the fall.

Peter H



Just burn it out...

wrote:

I have an out of control parcel of land which is full of weed, shrubs,
even small trees. It has been like this for about 10 years now, so
various animals currently inhabit the land (groundhogs, rabbits, etc.)
What's the best means of cleaning up this parcel? Of course, I want
to convert this untamed piece of land to a lawn full of green grass.

I was told that the best means of doing so would be to buy heavy,
thick black plastic covers, so that no sunlight will penetrate. I was
also told, however, that it's too late in the season to do so (I live
in New Jersey which has four full seasons).

Is this right? If so, is there anything I can do between now and the
next summer? Do weed killers work in fall or winter?

How would you go about taming a piece of property like this?


This fall, remove all the trees. Then, get a bush hog and
bulldozer to rip up everything else. Chipper it all into mulch,
and spread it across the graded property. Next spring, use an
harrow to till it back into the soil. Then, plant your lawn. If
you aren't familiar with the operation of these machines, you'd
be MUCH better off hiring this done, BTW.

Chris Owens




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