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Neil 16-10-2003 01:22 PM

Whats killing the pine trees
 
Last spring in upstate New York I noticed that most of the pine trees seemed
to
be covered with brown needles, as if the trees were dying.

Now all the pine trees on mine and the surrounding properties are suffering
the
same affliction (Fairfield Connecticut).

Anybody know what's going on here?

Neil



redclay 16-10-2003 02:22 PM

Whats killing the pine trees
 

Neil wrote in message ...
Last spring in upstate New York I noticed that most of the pine trees

seemed
to
be covered with brown needles, as if the trees were dying.
Now all the pine trees on mine and the surrounding properties are

suffering
the
same affliction (Fairfield Connecticut).
Anybody know what's going on here?
Neil

Look for the pine bark beetle.



[email protected] 16-10-2003 07:42 PM

Whats killing the pine trees
 
and drought

"redclay" wrote:


Neil wrote in message ...
Last spring in upstate New York I noticed that most of the pine trees

seemed
to
be covered with brown needles, as if the trees were dying.
Now all the pine trees on mine and the surrounding properties are

suffering
the
same affliction (Fairfield Connecticut).
Anybody know what's going on here?
Neil

Look for the pine bark beetle.




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John Bachman 16-10-2003 09:02 PM

Whats killing the pine trees
 
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:35:53 GMT, wrote:

and drought

"redclay" wrote:


Neil wrote in message ...
Last spring in upstate New York I noticed that most of the pine trees

seemed
to
be covered with brown needles, as if the trees were dying.
Now all the pine trees on mine and the surrounding properties are

suffering
the
same affliction (Fairfield Connecticut).
Anybody know what's going on here?
Neil

Look for the pine bark beetle.




Another possibility is road salt. Are the dead trees near major roads
that get salted in the winter, especially on the north side of the
road?

Pines are shallow rooted and hence take up groundwater near the
surface where pollutants are most concentrated.

John

Gary M 16-10-2003 11:12 PM

Whats killing the pine trees
 
John Bachman wrote in
:

Another possibility is road salt. Are the dead trees near major roads
that get salted in the winter, especially on the north side of the
road?


I've noticed that, though the pines seem to recover in the long term.

Neil 17-10-2003 11:12 AM

Whats killing the pine trees
 
Drought!? You've got to be kidding. We've had record rainfall this summer.

wrote in message
...
and drought

"redclay" wrote:


Neil wrote in message

...
Last spring in upstate New York I noticed that most of the pine trees

seemed
to
be covered with brown needles, as if the trees were dying.
Now all the pine trees on mine and the surrounding properties are

suffering
the
same affliction (Fairfield Connecticut).
Anybody know what's going on here?
Neil

Look for the pine bark beetle.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.




MacTech 17-10-2003 07:43 PM

Whats killing the pine trees
 
Pine trees shed needles in the spring and fall (more in the fall than
in the spring, I've noticed). If only some of the needles are turning
brown and falling off, the trees may be going through their annual
shed cycle. If all of the needles are turning brown and the trees look
completely dead, then it's something different.

The white pines, jack pines and red pines growing on our property here
in Wisconsin are going through their shed cycle right now.

A few years ago, a row of pine trees planted next to a golf course on
a major highway in this area turned completely dry and brown from road
salt. The trees were about four feet tall at the time. I thought they
were dead. I figured there was no way they could recover. Today they
are growing and thriving and look as though nothing had happened to
them. Amazing.

LeAnn
http://ruralroute2.com

BraveNewWhirl 18-10-2003 01:42 AM

Whats killing the pine trees
 

LeAnn
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MacTech 19-10-2003 12:12 AM

Whats killing the pine trees
 
You're Welcome :-)

Thank you for visiting.

LeAnn



LeAnn
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Thanks for having an inclusive site that doesn't push religion.


Bill Oliver 20-10-2003 08:22 PM

Whats killing the pine trees
 
In article , Neil wrote:
Last spring in upstate New York I noticed that most of the pine trees seemed
to
be covered with brown needles, as if the trees were dying.

Now all the pine trees on mine and the surrounding properties are suffering
the
same affliction (Fairfield Connecticut).

Anybody know what's going on here?

Neil


Is the forest all of a single age? I have some land that was
pasture about 70 years ago, but then allowed to grow up in forest.
When I bought the land, I noticed that a *lot* of the pine
trees were sickly and fallen/falling. I called the local
ag extension guy out and he told me that this was natural
succession. Southern pine have a life span of 60-ish years,
and my forest was transitioning from pine to hardwood, which
were slowly taking over. Sure enough, he took me to a portion
of the place that had been in forest for greater than 90
years, and it was mostly hardwood with very few pines.

billo



gregpresley 21-10-2003 08:22 AM

Whats killing the pine trees
 

"Bill Oliver" wrote in message Is the forest all of a
single age? I have some land that was
pasture about 70 years ago, but then allowed to grow up in forest.
When I bought the land, I noticed that a *lot* of the pine
trees were sickly and fallen/falling. I called the local
ag extension guy out and he told me that this was natural
succession. Southern pine have a life span of 60-ish years,
and my forest was transitioning from pine to hardwood, which
were slowly taking over. Sure enough, he took me to a portion
of the place that had been in forest for greater than 90
years, and it was mostly hardwood with very few pines.

billo

In many parts of the south, fires would have been set in the numerous summer
lightning storms, and the forest would have remained pine, because the
hardwoods are more susceptible to fire. (The pines will usually get scarred
but will regenerate). This has been supressed except in certain of the
natural forests, so much of the longleaf pine forest native to the coastal
lowlands of the entire south has transitioned to hardwoods - also pretty,
but not as useful for the wildlife native there. In the Appalachicola
national forest near Tallahassee, the forest service sets controlled fires
nearly every year in some area or another to maintain a pine forest.




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