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Melissa 03-11-2003 11:02 PM

What's this plant???
 
This had white trumpet shaped flowers on it, which were about 6" long, in
September. Does anyone know what it is?

http://www.dimensional.com/~melissa/...0plant%202.JPG

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Cereoid-UR12- 03-11-2003 11:32 PM

What's this plant???
 
Didn't we just answer this question?

Haven't you been paying attention?

Its a freaking Datura. Look it up.

BTW, the picture is completely worthless if it doesn't show the flowers or
fruit.


Melissa wrote in message
...
This had white trumpet shaped flowers on it, which were about 6" long, in
September. Does anyone know what it is?

http://www.dimensional.com/~melissa/...0plant%202.JPG

--
Yours In Liberty, Melissa - Colorado, U.S.A.
FOR SALE: PARA 1445 LDA with EXTRAS, ALSO LOCAL AMMO:
http://tinyurl.com/t1vx
http://www.dimensional.com/~melissa/para.htm

License plate frame - "Guns Defend Life & Liberty"
http://www.cafeshops.com/melissa_photo.7734333

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Libertarian, Objectivist, Chess, RKBA & Shooting.





Melissa 03-11-2003 11:42 PM

What's this plant???
 
"Cereoid-UR12-" saideth:

Didn't we just answer this question?

Haven't you been paying attention?

Its a freaking Datura. Look it up.

BTW, the picture is completely worthless if it doesn't show the flowers

or
fruit.


The freakin picture that everyone has been showing me of Datura, had leaves
that were jagged, not like this!

--
Yours In Liberty, Melissa - Colorado, U.S.A.
FOR SALE: PARA 1445 LDA with EXTRAS, ALSO LOCAL AMMO:
http://tinyurl.com/t1vx
http://www.dimensional.com/~melissa/para.htm

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Libertarian, Objectivist, Chess, RKBA & Shooting.



Jim Shaffer, Jr. 04-11-2003 12:12 AM

What's this plant???
 
On 3 Nov 2003 15:51:34 -0700, Melissa wrote:

This had white trumpet shaped flowers on it, which were about 6" long, in
September. Does anyone know what it is?

http://www.dimensional.com/~melissa/...0plant%202.JPG


Some kind of datura. They're late to germinate, but quick to grow and will keep
going until frost.




Cereoid-UR12- 04-11-2003 12:32 AM

What's this plant???
 
There are several different species of Datura, not just one, and they don't
all have "jagged" leaves, Missy.

Look it up yourself.

http://www.americanbrugmansia-datura...nus_datura.htm


Melissa wrote in message
...
"Cereoid-UR12-" saideth:

Didn't we just answer this question?

Haven't you been paying attention?

Its a freaking Datura. Look it up.

BTW, the picture is completely worthless if it doesn't show the flowers

or
fruit.


The freakin picture that everyone has been showing me of Datura, had

leaves
that were jagged, not like this!

--
Yours In Liberty, Melissa - Colorado, U.S.A.
FOR SALE: PARA 1445 LDA with EXTRAS, ALSO LOCAL AMMO:
http://tinyurl.com/t1vx
http://www.dimensional.com/~melissa/para.htm

License plate frame - "Guns Defend Life & Liberty"
http://www.cafeshops.com/melissa_photo.7734333

West Denver area - Shaolin-based Martial arts, Rock music, Sci-Fi, Chess,
Libertarian, Objectivist, Chess, RKBA & Shooting.





Melissa 04-11-2003 01:12 AM

What's this plant???
 
"Jim Shaffer, Jr." saideth:

On 3 Nov 2003 15:51:34 -0700, Melissa wrote:

This had white trumpet shaped flowers on it, which were about 6" long,
in September. Does anyone know what it is?

http://www.dimensional.com/~melissa/...0plant%202.JPG


Some kind of datura. They're late to germinate, but quick to grow and
will keep going until frost.


I'm getting confusing info on how they'll grow in Colorado. Some say as an
annual, some say perrenial. Do the species vary that way too?

--
Yours In Liberty, Melissa - Colorado, U.S.A.
FOR SALE: PARA 1445 LDA with EXTRAS, ALSO LOCAL AMMO:
http://tinyurl.com/t1vx
http://www.dimensional.com/~melissa/para.htm

License plate frame - "Guns Defend Life & Liberty"
http://www.cafeshops.com/melissa_photo.7734333

West Denver area - Shaolin-based Martial arts, Rock music, Sci-Fi, Chess,
Libertarian, Objectivist, Chess, RKBA & Shooting.



Sed5555 04-11-2003 06:42 AM

What's this plant???
 
This had white trumpet shaped flowers on it, which were about 6" long, in
September. Does anyone know what it is?


From the shape of the leaves, it appears to more likely be a moonflower vine
(Ipomoea alba), than datura. Moonflower is a fragrant cousin of morning glory,
but it has huge fragrant, white blooms. Take a look at this webpage and see if
it looks like your flowers (you can't see it very well, but they are trumpet
shaped and at least 6").
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopE...s/moonflwr.htm
sed5555

animaux 04-11-2003 01:32 PM

What's this plant???
 
On 3 Nov 2003 16:40:25 -0700, Melissa opined:



The freakin picture that everyone has been showing me of Datura, had leaves
that were jagged, not like this!


Plants are identified by their flower parts, not their foliage. The plant you
have is Datura inoxia. There are other datura varieties and cultivars which
have different shaped leaves, D.metel has a double flower, D.wrightii is a huge
plant with huge flowers with slightly lavender throats (and I mean slightly).
So, to have a plant identified you'd need to include a photo of the flower, cone
or seed pod. In some cases you can identify by the seed pod, not always.

animaux 04-11-2003 01:42 PM

What's this plant???
 
On 3 Nov 2003 18:04:01 -0700, Melissa opined:

I'm getting confusing info on how they'll grow in Colorado. Some say as an
annual, some say perrenial. Do the species vary that way too?


Not really. Datura are not hardy much further north than USDA Zone 7b and
that's pushing it. They are perennial in 8b where I live, in Texas. They may
not be perennial in 8b in Washington State. It all depends on many
circumstances. They will reseed, that I can assure you.

Victoria

animaux 04-11-2003 01:42 PM

What's this plant???
 
On 04 Nov 2003 06:33:16 GMT, (Sed5555) opined:

This had white trumpet shaped flowers on it, which were about 6" long, in
September. Does anyone know what it is?


From the shape of the leaves, it appears to more likely be a moonflower vine
(Ipomoea alba), than datura. Moonflower is a fragrant cousin of morning glory,
but it has huge fragrant, white blooms. Take a look at this webpage and see if
it looks like your flowers (you can't see it very well, but they are trumpet
shaped and at least 6").
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopE...s/moonflwr.htm
sed5555


It is not moonflower, Ipomoea alba. It is Datura inoxia.

Victoria

Cereoid-UR12- 04-11-2003 02:22 PM

What's this plant???
 
You didn't check out the photo very carefully, did you Sedentary?

It most definitely is a Datura and not at all a vine.


Sed5555 wrote in message
...
This had white trumpet shaped flowers on it, which were about 6" long,

in
September. Does anyone know what it is?


From the shape of the leaves, it appears to more likely be a moonflower

vine
(Ipomoea alba), than datura. Moonflower is a fragrant cousin of morning

glory,
but it has huge fragrant, white blooms. Take a look at this webpage and

see if
it looks like your flowers (you can't see it very well, but they are

trumpet
shaped and at least 6").
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopE...s/moonflwr.htm
sed5555




Jim Shaffer, Jr. 04-11-2003 05:02 PM

What's this plant???
 
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 13:33:12 GMT, animaux wrote:

I'm getting confusing info on how they'll grow in Colorado. Some say as an
annual, some say perrenial. Do the species vary that way too?


Not really. Datura are not hardy much further north than USDA Zone 7b and
that's pushing it. They are perennial in 8b where I live, in Texas. They may
not be perennial in 8b in Washington State. It all depends on many
circumstances. They will reseed, that I can assure you.


Here in Pennsylvania on the border of 5b and 6a, I have daturas emerge from the
roots somewhere below ground (all visible stems have died) about every other
year, depending on how cold the winter was and where they're planted. The
shoots that come up are much too large to be seedlings.

I have never bothered to figure out what species it is. It's a white variety
that everyone has had forever, but I don't think it's Jimson Weed. It has
non-scalloped leaves.

Every time I've grown colored varieties they haven't survived the winter, but
they've been in poorer locations.



animaux 04-11-2003 07:02 PM

What's this plant???
 
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 11:52:57 -0500, "Jim Shaffer, Jr."
opined:

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 13:33:12 GMT, animaux wrote:

I'm getting confusing info on how they'll grow in Colorado. Some say as an
annual, some say perrenial. Do the species vary that way too?


Not really. Datura are not hardy much further north than USDA Zone 7b and
that's pushing it. They are perennial in 8b where I live, in Texas. They may
not be perennial in 8b in Washington State. It all depends on many
circumstances. They will reseed, that I can assure you.


Here in Pennsylvania on the border of 5b and 6a, I have daturas emerge from the
roots somewhere below ground (all visible stems have died) about every other
year, depending on how cold the winter was and where they're planted. The
shoots that come up are much too large to be seedlings.

I have never bothered to figure out what species it is. It's a white variety
that everyone has had forever, but I don't think it's Jimson Weed. It has
non-scalloped leaves.

Every time I've grown colored varieties they haven't survived the winter, but
they've been in poorer locations.


You're experience is not common. However, you have micro climate and that is
what will determine this situation. I rarely have any return from the original
roots and I live in warm climate winter. I think that may have to do more with
moisture in soil than anything else. We get fall rains and the soil stays
pretty wet most of the winter and can cause the crown of the plant to rot. I'm
never in any shortage of datura of many species.

Melissa 05-11-2003 01:12 AM

What's this plant???
 
animaux saideth:

Datura inoxia


It appears to be. I saw some of the seed pods on it, that look like the
ones I found on the web for this.

--
Yours In Liberty, Melissa - Colorado, U.S.A.
FOR SALE: PARA 1445 LDA with EXTRAS, ALSO LOCAL AMMO:
http://tinyurl.com/t1vx
http://www.dimensional.com/~melissa/para.htm

License plate frame - "Guns Defend Life & Liberty"
http://www.cafeshops.com/melissa_photo.7734333

West Denver area - Shaolin-based Martial arts, Rock music, Sci-Fi, Chess,
Libertarian, Objectivist, Chess, RKBA & Shooting.



Melissa 05-11-2003 01:12 AM

What's this plant???
 
animaux saideth:

On 3 Nov 2003 16:40:25 -0700, Melissa opined:



The freakin picture that everyone has been showing me of Datura, had
leaves that were jagged, not like this!


Plants are identified by their flower parts, not their foliage. The
plant you have is Datura inoxia.


Just looked around the web and I now agree. It had a fruit that looks like
this on it: http://www.bgard.sci.kun.nl/images/03294255.jpg

Seeds in there? The thing is right out between sidewalk and street, so I
could pluck a few.

--
Yours In Liberty, Melissa - Colorado, U.S.A.
FOR SALE: PARA 1445 LDA with EXTRAS, ALSO LOCAL AMMO:
http://tinyurl.com/t1vx
http://www.dimensional.com/~melissa/para.htm

License plate frame - "Guns Defend Life & Liberty"
http://www.cafeshops.com/melissa_photo.7734333

West Denver area - Shaolin-based Martial arts, Rock music, Sci-Fi, Chess,
Libertarian, Objectivist, Chess, RKBA & Shooting.




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