Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

I am soon moving into a new home in Houston, TX. Behind my 6ft wood
fence, there will soon be a 2 lane road and maybe some mild
commericial development. I am looking to plant a privacy hedge.

- Want it to be *dense* so it will block all sight and maybe dampen
noise.
- Plan to make it 8-10ft, but want it to be able to get taller if
later decide its warranted.
- Will be along a back wood fence, with a resevoir behind me. No
neighbor to worry about.
- Would like it to grow at a reasonable to quick pace.
- Want it evergreen. Houston has hot, humid summers and mild winters
(freezes occasionally, no snow).
- Needs to be hardy. I do not have a green thumb. I will keep it
watered and such, but I want something I don't have to baby along for
it to survive.
- Will be planted into clay...which is pretty much what all ground
soil is in Houston.

Does arborvitae grow well in Houston? Or any other dense cedar? Any
other suggestions? Thanks!

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

"SJE" wrote in message
...
I am soon moving into a new home in Houston, TX. Behind my 6ft wood
fence, there will soon be a 2 lane road and maybe some mild
commericial development. I am looking to plant a privacy hedge.

- Want it to be *dense* so it will block all sight and maybe dampen
noise.
- Plan to make it 8-10ft, but want it to be able to get taller if
later decide its warranted.
- Will be along a back wood fence, with a resevoir behind me. No
neighbor to worry about.
- Would like it to grow at a reasonable to quick pace.
- Want it evergreen. Houston has hot, humid summers and mild winters
(freezes occasionally, no snow).
- Needs to be hardy. I do not have a green thumb. I will keep it
watered and such, but I want something I don't have to baby along for
it to survive.
- Will be planted into clay...which is pretty much what all ground
soil is in Houston.

Does arborvitae grow well in Houston? Or any other dense cedar? Any
other suggestions? Thanks!

Consider Bamboo.
There is a nursery (I believe it is called Ma's nursery - in League City it
believe) that has many varieties. If you want to see what it looks like,
walk the trail at Hershey park between Memorial Drive and Wilcrest. I now
live in Maryland but walk there when I visit friends and family in Houston.

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

Personally we have a 30 year old holly hedge in the front yard with the side
yard a hedge of what I was told was prycanthia (I don't think it is though)
The "prycanthia" got to be around 10 - 12 feet until the neighbors asked if
they could prune it and nearly killed it by cutting it back to around 3 feet
(I was much ticked off)

Shell


"SJE" wrote in message
...
I am soon moving into a new home in Houston, TX. Behind my 6ft wood
fence, there will soon be a 2 lane road and maybe some mild
commericial development. I am looking to plant a privacy hedge.

- Want it to be *dense* so it will block all sight and maybe dampen
noise.
- Plan to make it 8-10ft, but want it to be able to get taller if
later decide its warranted.
- Will be along a back wood fence, with a resevoir behind me. No
neighbor to worry about.
- Would like it to grow at a reasonable to quick pace.
- Want it evergreen. Houston has hot, humid summers and mild winters
(freezes occasionally, no snow).
- Needs to be hardy. I do not have a green thumb. I will keep it
watered and such, but I want something I don't have to baby along for
it to survive.
- Will be planted into clay...which is pretty much what all ground
soil is in Houston.

Does arborvitae grow well in Houston? Or any other dense cedar? Any
other suggestions? Thanks!

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

With the reservoir behind you as water source, a great choice is
Southern Wax Myrtle,
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/o...acerifera.htm=
=2E
It draws 40 different types of birds and is a dense, evergreen tree
shrub. Birds will eat the fruits.

Someone mentioned Holly. Yaupon Holly,
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/o...omitoria.htm,=

is a bird snactuary due to its proliferation of red berries. See the URL
link.

Possomhaw Viburnum,
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/o...viburnumnud.h=
tm,
another great native with beautiful red berries and cover for wildlife.
(deciduous)

Also, Possomhaw Holly,
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/o...lexdecidua.htm
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/c...ecidua2gg.html
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/c...decidua94.html
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/c...decidua83.html
(without is leaves, it blocks the sign pretty good, right?), The Houston
Chronicle quoted me in the gardening section that this is a
show-stopper.

Texas Native Shrubs,
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/o...indexcommon.h=
tm

Texas Native Trees,
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/o.../tamuhort.html -
pictured is benny Simpson, co-founder of the Native Plant Society of
Texas.

J. Kolenovsky
VP Houston Chapter, Native Plant Society of Texas
Come join us for free native plants, trees and shrubs.







SJE wrote:
=

I am soon moving into a new home in Houston, TX. Behind my 6ft wood
fence, there will soon be a 2 lane road and maybe some mild
commericial development. I am looking to plant a privacy hedge.
=

- Want it to be *dense* so it will block all sight and maybe dampen
noise.
- Plan to make it 8-10ft, but want it to be able to get taller if
later decide its warranted.
- Will be along a back wood fence, with a resevoir behind me. No
neighbor to worry about.
- Would like it to grow at a reasonable to quick pace.
- Want it evergreen. Houston has hot, humid summers and mild winters
(freezes occasionally, no snow).
- Needs to be hardy. I do not have a green thumb. I will keep it
watered and such, but I want something I don't have to baby along for
it to survive.
- Will be planted into clay...which is pretty much what all ground
soil is in Houston.
=

Does arborvitae grow well in Houston? Or any other dense cedar? Any
other suggestions? Thanks!

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Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

My first thought is bamboo. It's a beautiful plant and you can buy several
different clumping varieties which will give you a nicely textured hedge. You
can buy bamboo in many different colors, foliage types, heights and
invasiveness. Though clumping forms will be less invasive, most of them still
run in Texas. Our soil never freezes so things grow and grow. Be careful to
select varieties which will not take over. Clumping varieties can be kept in
bounds by culming in the spring.

You can look all the terms up.

Victoria

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 04:31:00 GMT, SJE
opined:

I am soon moving into a new home in Houston, TX. Behind my 6ft wood
fence, there will soon be a 2 lane road and maybe some mild
commericial development. I am looking to plant a privacy hedge.

- Want it to be *dense* so it will block all sight and maybe dampen
noise.
- Plan to make it 8-10ft, but want it to be able to get taller if
later decide its warranted.
- Will be along a back wood fence, with a resevoir behind me. No
neighbor to worry about.
- Would like it to grow at a reasonable to quick pace.
- Want it evergreen. Houston has hot, humid summers and mild winters
(freezes occasionally, no snow).
- Needs to be hardy. I do not have a green thumb. I will keep it
watered and such, but I want something I don't have to baby along for
it to survive.
- Will be planted into clay...which is pretty much what all ground
soil is in Houston.

Does arborvitae grow well in Houston? Or any other dense cedar? Any
other suggestions? Thanks!

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

Thank you all for the suggestions.

Bamboo is intriguing, but I am going to need almost 150ft worth...is
this a maintenance nightmare? I don't mind trimming on even a weekly
basis, but I don't want something to spread out of control.

I've been reading about green giant arborvitae. Would this tree grow
in Texas or is it mostly a northern tree?

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:45:24 GMT, SJE
opined:

Thank you all for the suggestions.

Bamboo is intriguing, but I am going to need almost 150ft worth...is
this a maintenance nightmare? I don't mind trimming on even a weekly
basis, but I don't want something to spread out of control.

I've been reading about green giant arborvitae. Would this tree grow
in Texas or is it mostly a northern tree?

Well, it depends on your soil and pH levels, etc. They are not a widely used
shrub for here. It is not a tree.

I suggest you take a look at this website and call around. Maybe take a ride
out to the Houston Arboretum. You can find that info on this website, too.

http://www.npsot.org/Houston/plant_l...antSources.htm

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

Sounds like the Pyracantha was too close to a property line and lived to
a good age..


Shell wrote:
=

Personally we have a 30 year old holly hedge in the front yard with the=
side
yard a hedge of what I was told was prycanthia (I don't think it is tho=
ugh)
The "prycanthia" got to be around 10 - 12 feet until the neighbors ask=
ed if
they could prune it and nearly killed it by cutting it back to around 3=
feet
(I was much ticked off)
=

Shell

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Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

Bamboo could get out of control. The root runs will show up in your
neighbors yard. To eliminate that you could out down a steel root
barrier in the soil.

Arborvitae is a northern plant. They get leaf thin-out and look thinned
in the middle and bottom. You probably are looking in some catalogs and
saw these. If you are, consider some advice. I used to do that. Ordered
out of those mid and northern catalogs. I have ripped out all of those
plants purchased during 1992- 1997 becuase they aren't from these parts,
they aren't native, some got invasive, some got diseases, some required
a lot of work and some were just plain ugly as they got older.

If I could get you to consider native plants (again, I ask this - you
posted same topic 30 days ago), you will find that you'll have wildlife
in your yard, no pests or diseases, little fertilizing to do (using an
organic fertilzer), less maintenance and a higher quality of life. Ask
Victoria or ask me. We went with natives and people drop in the street
to admire the natural beauty of a habitat with native plants. Stop my my
website, http://www.celestialhabitats.com - business or my home habitat,
http://www.hal-pc.org/~garden and view the pix and read the data. It
will be convincing enough.

J. Kolenovsky
Native Plant Society of Texas, Houston Chapter VP
(don't forget my invitation to you to come to our meetings and get free

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Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

One word "OLEANDER". Oleander loves Houston's soil and weather.

Plant it soon to get it established by summer and forget about it.

Standard varities get up to 20'. improves varities "dwarf salmon" get only
4'to 5'.

I planted one gallon Oleander last April that is now 4'to 6' tall. Trim tops
to promote

filling in. Oleander will bloom through the summer, and is evergreen.

Josephs nursery in Pearland is a good nursery at wholesale prices.

Go to Maas nursery in Seabrook to get ideas, great place just a bit pricey.
I always ge something.

But go to joseophs in Pearland for bulk purchases.

Good luck.

Matt

"SJE" wrote in message
...
I am soon moving into a new home in Houston, TX. Behind my 6ft wood
fence, there will soon be a 2 lane road and maybe some mild
commericial development. I am looking to plant a privacy hedge.

- Want it to be *dense* so it will block all sight and maybe dampen
noise.
- Plan to make it 8-10ft, but want it to be able to get taller if
later decide its warranted.
- Will be along a back wood fence, with a resevoir behind me. No
neighbor to worry about.
- Would like it to grow at a reasonable to quick pace.
- Want it evergreen. Houston has hot, humid summers and mild winters
(freezes occasionally, no snow).
- Needs to be hardy. I do not have a green thumb. I will keep it
watered and such, but I want something I don't have to baby along for
it to survive.
- Will be planted into clay...which is pretty much what all ground
soil is in Houston.

Does arborvitae grow well in Houston? Or any other dense cedar? Any
other suggestions? Thanks!

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

SJE wrote:
I am soon moving into a new home in Houston, TX. Behind my 6ft wood
fence, there will soon be a 2 lane road and maybe some mild
commericial development. I am looking to plant a privacy hedge.

- Want it to be *dense* so it will block all sight and maybe dampen
noise.
- Plan to make it 8-10ft, but want it to be able to get taller if
later decide its warranted.
- Will be along a back wood fence, with a resevoir behind me. No
neighbor to worry about.
- Would like it to grow at a reasonable to quick pace.
- Want it evergreen. Houston has hot, humid summers and mild winters
(freezes occasionally, no snow).
- Needs to be hardy. I do not have a green thumb. I will keep it
watered and such, but I want something I don't have to baby along for
it to survive.
- Will be planted into clay...which is pretty much what all ground
soil is in Houston.

Does arborvitae grow well in Houston? Or any other dense cedar? Any
other suggestions? Thanks!


Oleander; as long as you don't have an aversion to poisonous plants.
Ligustrum if you need something less toxic.

Best regards,
Bob

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

"Oleander Leaf Scorch" exists in Houston. =

http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/xylella/oleander.html


meanbeagle wrote:
=

One word "OLEANDER". Oleander loves Houston's soil and weather.
=

Plant it soon to get it established by summer and forget about it.
=

Standard varities get up to 20'. improves varities "dwarf salmon" get o=
nly
4'to 5'.
=

I planted one gallon Oleander last April that is now 4'to 6' tall. Trim=
tops
to promote
=

filling in. Oleander will bloom through the summer, and is evergreen.
=

Josephs nursery in Pearland is a good nursery at wholesale prices.
=

Go to Maas nursery in Seabrook to get ideas, great place just a bit pri=
cey.
I always ge something.
=

But go to joseophs in Pearland for bulk purchases.
=

Good luck.
=

Matt


-- =

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2003 Honorable Mention Award, Keep Houston Beautiful
=F4=BF=F4 - http://www.celestialhabitats.com - business
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Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

Ligustrum problems:

http://www.msue.msu.edu/msue/imp/modzz/00000857.html
http://www.oldhouseweb.com/gardening...01700561.shtml

Cercospora leaf spot on privet/ligustrum =

We again are seeing a lot of this leaf spot in the clinic just as we did
as last year. Almost all ligustrums have this disease to some extent.
Symptoms are characterized by a light tan spot with a dark brown border.
Occasionally, severely infected leaves will drop but for the most part
the disease does not cause significant damage. It may be of concern to
homeowners but the disease does not merit a full blown spray program
like Entomosporium leaf spot. General leaf spot control practices and
good cultural care are usually enough to keep this disease in check.
Infection is favored by free moisture on
the foliage, such as after rain or from overhead watering. Avoid
overhead watering and keep the area around the plant clean of debris.
Infected leaves should be removed and thrown away. Selective pruning to
increase air circulation will also reduce disease incidence. For those
folks who insist on spraying, Daconil 2787 and Fung-Away are labeled for
leaf spot control on ligustrum. Target protection of new, expanding
leaves this spring. Clients should follow label recommendations for
rates and method of application.



zxcvbob wrote:
Ligustrum if you need something less toxic.
=

Best regards,
Bob

-- =

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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 22:46:13 -0600, zxcvbob opined:

Oleander; as long as you don't have an aversion to poisonous plants.
Ligustrum if you need something less toxic.

Best regards,
Bob

Oleander is poison if you eat it. I never ate it. Ligustrum is a noxious weed
which is on every DO NOT PLANT in Texas and many other states. Please, with all
the myriad offerings, do not plant any ligustrum.

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

"meanbeagle" wrote in message
...
One word "OLEANDER". Oleander loves Houston's soil and weather.

Good choice. I also use it as a screen. Not only does it grow fast and hide
unsightly areas, it blooms profusely in May and June. For a
"stick-it-in-the-ground-and-forget-it" large shrub, oleander can't be beat.
It's so tough that they plant it on freeway medians.

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

Yes, plant it and it'll be dead in 2 years with OLS.
http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/xylella/oleander.html.
OLS exists in texas.


Secret Asian Man wrote:
=

"meanbeagle" wrote in message
...
One word "OLEANDER". Oleander loves Houston's soil and weather.
=

Good choice. I also use it as a screen. Not only does it grow fast and =
hide
unsightly areas, it blooms profusely in May and June. For a
"stick-it-in-the-ground-and-forget-it" large shrub, oleander can't be b=
eat.
It's so tough that they plant it on freeway medians.

-- =

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I don't know that all Oleander will be dead in two years. I've had a beautiful
stand for 4 years and it looks fine. Yes, there is this OLS to be concerned
about, but oak wilt is also there. I suppose your position is correct in that
if one plants something for a screen, and in a few years has that thicket, it is
a waste of time if it then dies just as it's getting beautiful. In that, we
agree. OLS may be more prevalent in Houston. In this area of Texas, it's found
in parts of the region which over use Oleander. It's deer resistant, so it's
everywhere deer are found browsing in gardens.

Victoria

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:59:07 -0600, J Kolenovsky opined:

Yes, plant it and it'll be dead in 2 years with OLS.
http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/xylella/oleander.html.
OLS exists in texas.


Secret Asian Man wrote:

"meanbeagle" wrote in message
...
One word "OLEANDER". Oleander loves Houston's soil and weather.

Good choice. I also use it as a screen. Not only does it grow fast and hide
unsightly areas, it blooms profusely in May and June. For a
"stick-it-in-the-ground-and-forget-it" large shrub, oleander can't be beat.
It's so tough that they plant it on freeway medians.

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

I don't know that all Oleander will be dead in two years. I've had a beautiful
stand for 4 years and it looks fine. Yes, there is this OLS to be concerned
about, but oak wilt is also there. I suppose your position is correct in that
if one plants something for a screen, and in a few years has that thicket, it is
a waste of time if it then dies just as it's getting beautiful. In that, we
agree. OLS may be more prevalent in Houston. In this area of Texas, it's found
in parts of the region which over use Oleander. It's deer resistant, so it's
everywhere deer are found browsing in gardens.

Victoria

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:59:07 -0600, J Kolenovsky opined:

Yes, plant it and it'll be dead in 2 years with OLS.
http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/xylella/oleander.html.
OLS exists in texas.


Secret Asian Man wrote:

"meanbeagle" wrote in message
...
One word "OLEANDER". Oleander loves Houston's soil and weather.

Good choice. I also use it as a screen. Not only does it grow fast and hide
unsightly areas, it blooms profusely in May and June. For a
"stick-it-in-the-ground-and-forget-it" large shrub, oleander can't be beat.
It's so tough that they plant it on freeway medians.

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

"J Kolenovsky" wrote in message
...
Ligustrum problems:

http://www.msue.msu.edu/msue/imp/modzz/00000857.html
http://www.oldhouseweb.com/gardening...01700561.shtml

Cercospora leaf spot on privet/ligustrum

============

And, if you want whitefly, PLANT PRIVET. I can't imagine a
privet privacy hedge in early to mid summer. The white fly would
rise in clouds whenever someone brushed it.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

"J Kolenovsky" wrote in message
...

Arborvitae is a northern plant. They get leaf thin-out and look
thinned
in the middle and bottom. You probably are looking in some
catalogs and
saw these. If you are, consider some advice. I used to do that.
Ordered
out of those mid and northern catalogs. I have ripped out all of
those
plants purchased during 1992- 1997 becuase they aren't from these
parts,
they aren't native, some got invasive, some got diseases, some
required
a lot of work and some were just plain ugly as they got older.
=============

Yes. We in the south are often teased by those northern
catalogs only to find that our summers are what does them in.
Even "natives" that grow naturally in your area, if purchased
from a northern nursery, will do more poorly in the south.
=============

If I could get you to consider native plants (again, I ask this -
you
posted same topic 30 days ago), you will find that you'll have
wildlife
in your yard, no pests or diseases, little fertilizing to do
(using an
organic fertilzer), less maintenance and a higher quality of
life. Ask
Victoria or ask me. We went with natives and people drop in the
street

================

A while back I had to search the web for native nurseries for
a client and I seem to recall several from TX; there's bound to
be a nursery that specializes in native plants in or near your
area. That's where you will get plants that will do well.

I might suggest Ilex vomitoria (NOT that non-flowering male
hybrid monstrosity sold by the Home Depots and Lowes "nurseries")
as a good hedge. It is native to TX, I think. I seem to recall
a bonsai grower from central TX who called it a "weed" there.


Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

Jim Lewis wrote:

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Yes. We in the south are often teased by those northern
catalogs only to find that our summers are what does them in.
Even "natives" that grow naturally in your area, if purchased
from a northern nursery, will do more poorly in the south.

Yes, absolutely.
I always recommend to get a native that comes from within a 100 mile
radius or less of one's location. That way one gets the true one from
their area.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=

A while back I had to search the web for native nurseries for
a client and I seem to recall several from TX; there's bound to
be a nursery that specializes in native plants in or near your
area. That's where you will get plants that will do well.

Yes, I can send him a local retailer list. Thanks, Jim.

=

I might suggest Ilex vomitoria (NOT that non-flowering male
hybrid monstrosity sold by the Home Depots and Lowes "nurseries")
as a good hedge. It is native to TX, I think. I seem to recall
a bonsai grower from central TX who called it a "weed" there.

Yes, there are farmers and ranchers who refer to Yaupon Holly that way.
And in the wild, it can definitely get thick. Here in the city, there
are Yaupon species that can stay fairly controllable.
=

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.
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Privacy hudge suggestions for Houston, TX
 

Jim Lewis wrote:
=

"J Kolenovsky" wrote in message
...
Ligustrum problems:
=

http://www.msue.msu.edu/msue/imp/modzz/00000857.html
http://www.oldhouseweb.com/gardening...01700561.shtml
=

Cercospora leaf spot on privet/ligustrum
=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=

And, if you want whitefly, PLANT PRIVET. I can't imagine a
privet privacy hedge in early to mid summer. The white fly would
rise in clouds whenever someone brushed it.

You know that many whiteflies could sure in the birds and
beneficials,...aah... maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves. We're
trying to get him to plant native shrubs/trees. I don't think he's ready
for the a butterfly/nectar garden quite yet. BUT when he is....
=

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Hey, I like your nature taglines. How'd you do that?

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:56:42 -0500, "Jim Lewis" opined:


A while back I had to search the web for native nurseries for
a client and I seem to recall several from TX; there's bound to
be a nursery that specializes in native plants in or near your
area. That's where you will get plants that will do well.

I might suggest Ilex vomitoria (NOT that non-flowering male
hybrid monstrosity sold by the Home Depots and Lowes "nurseries")
as a good hedge. It is native to TX, I think. I seem to recall
a bonsai grower from central TX who called it a "weed" there.


Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

If you want a wonderful hedge, yaupon holly is hard to beat. I have many, many
dwarf yaupon holly bushes around our home. The birds love the berries and you
cannot beat the form of the dwarf.

I wouldn't call them weeds, but they are certainly found everywhere in the brush
in Texas. A most delightful plant.

All states in the U.S. have a Native Plant Society chapter.

Victoria

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:56:42 -0500, "Jim Lewis" opined:


A while back I had to search the web for native nurseries for
a client and I seem to recall several from TX; there's bound to
be a nursery that specializes in native plants in or near your
area. That's where you will get plants that will do well.

I might suggest Ilex vomitoria (NOT that non-flowering male
hybrid monstrosity sold by the Home Depots and Lowes "nurseries")
as a good hedge. It is native to TX, I think. I seem to recall
a bonsai grower from central TX who called it a "weed" there.


Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

If you want a wonderful hedge, yaupon holly is hard to beat. I have many, many
dwarf yaupon holly bushes around our home. The birds love the berries and you
cannot beat the form of the dwarf.

I wouldn't call them weeds, but they are certainly found everywhere in the brush
in Texas. A most delightful plant.

All states in the U.S. have a Native Plant Society chapter.

Victoria

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animaux wrote:
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:56:42 -0500, "Jim Lewis" =
opined:
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I might suggest Ilex vomitoria (NOT that non-flowering male
hybrid monstrosity sold by the Home Depots and Lowes "nurseries")
as a good hedge. It is native to TX, I think. I seem to recall
a bonsai grower from central TX who called it a "weed" there.


Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.
=

If you want a wonderful hedge, yaupon holly is hard to beat. I have ma=
ny, many
dwarf yaupon holly bushes around our home. The birds love the berries =
and you
cannot beat the form of the dwarf.
=

I wouldn't call them weeds, but they are certainly found everywhere in =
the brush
in Texas. A most delightful plant.
=

All states in the U.S. have a Native Plant Society chapter.

That's right. Here's the link:
http://www.prairienet.org/gpf/natives.html

Victoria, I think Jim Lewis might work in landscape. Not sure, but some
of his comments seem that way.
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Victoria

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Thank you everyone for your suggestions, can't wait to move in and get
started!

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"J Kolenovsky" wrote in message
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Yes, plant it and it'll be dead in 2 years with OLS.

Nonsense. My oleander is pushing 8 years old. The oleander on the beltway
medians is over 10.

http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/xylella/oleander.html.
OLS exists in texas.

Cancer also exists in Texas. That doesn't mean we all die from cancer.


Secret Asian Man wrote:

"meanbeagle" wrote in message
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One word "OLEANDER". Oleander loves Houston's soil and weather.

Good choice. I also use it as a screen. Not only does it grow fast and
hide
unsightly areas, it blooms profusely in May and June. For a
"stick-it-in-the-ground-and-forget-it" large shrub, oleander can't be
beat.
It's so tough that they plant it on freeway medians.

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:25:18 -0600, J Kolenovsky opined:

Victoria, I think Jim Lewis might work in landscape. Not sure, but some
of his comments seem that way.

Victoria

Could be. I haven't forgotten your frog fruit! Us, with that frogfruit chase!

I'll get it to you. It's in the greenhouse in 6 packs. I haven't potted them
into 4" pots yet. I will send them to you unpotted. Hard to kill these.

V

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Secret Asian Man wrote:

Although not a native plant to the US, Oleander is a fairly good plant
to use as a screen. It doesn't attract any wildlife but it is durable.
Since it doesn't produce berries, birds don't contribute to spreading it
around the environment and causing it to become a dominant species.
Those "oleanders" on Beltway 8 "are" 10 years old or older. I do have
one of these planted behind the garage and its about 14' tall. =

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Victoria, I think Jim Lewis might work in landscape. Not sure,
but some
of his comments seem that way.


No. I'm a retired environmental educator, an amateur botanist, a
Florida "Advanced Master Gardener" (FWIW), and have been growing
bonsai for nearly 30 years, concentrating (mostly) on native
trees and shrubs. I have a hard time thinking of anything more
enjoyable than wandering through the woods at any time of year
looking at plants (and pulling up escaped exotics! Ardesia is my
latest pet peeve around here.).

I do my own landscaping, such as it is, but that's it.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.